Hi, Can someone please enlighten me as to why we are transcribing records well into the 20th century while there remain a number of 'holes' in the 19th century transcriptions? For example there are almost no births transcribed for the period 1854 to 1858 - and I'm sure I'm not the only one whose research is handicapped by this sort of gap. When I began transcribing, I had the impression that the first priority for FreeBMD was to complete the pre-1901 data - has this changed? Thanks Mike --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger NEW - crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with voicemail

Thank you - of course!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Mayall" <david.mayall@ukonline.co.uk> To: <FreeBMD-Admins-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 5:53 PM Subject: Re: Abbreviations > Quoting Louise & Tim Atherton <athertonlt@optusnet.com.au>: > >> Could someone please inform me what TWYS means? >> I have looked up all the email abbreviations & couldn't find it on any of >> the >> website lists. >> Louise > > "Type What You See" > > It is the answer to 95% of all transcription questions. > > -- > Dave Mayall > > ---------------------------------------------- > This mail sent through http://www.ukonline.net > > > ==== FreeBMD-Admins Mailing List ==== > FreeBMD Transcribers homepage > http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/vindex.shtml > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > >

Hi Louise TWYS literally means Type What You See, so if there is a spelling error on a scan that is exactly what we must type even if you know it is incorrect. Hope that helps Cheers Kate -----Original Message----- From: Louise & Tim Atherton [mailto:athertonlt@optusnet.com.au] Sent: Monday, 23 January 2006 5:44 PM To: FreeBMD-Admins-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Abbreviations Could someone please inform me what TWYS means? I have looked up all the email abbreviations & couldn't find it on any of the website lists. Louise ==== FreeBMD-Admins Mailing List ==== FreeBMD Transcribers homepage http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/vindex.shtml ============================== Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx

Could someone please inform me what TWYS means? I have looked up all the email abbreviations & couldn't find it on any of the website lists. Louise

I wanted to support Marsha Stringer's comment about how difficult it is to spot the box to be ticked that says "I've read and understood where infomation about corrections must come from". I know it is there but still sometimes find it hard to spot. Would it be possible to redesign the form slightly so as to make it easier to see - without making it so easy that people tick it without reading the blurb. Christopher Richards ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin.S.Howell" <kevin.s.howell@blueyonder.co.uk> To: <FreeBMD-Admins-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 5:07 PM Subject: RE: {not a subscriber} Attempted Correction Failure > Hi, > The FreeBMD corrections process takes a significant amount of project > resource, and the corrections form has therefore been designed to ensure > that our instructions are read and complied with. > > I believe that the instruction you are not complying with is > When completing the source field, please just tell us, in as few words as > possible, where you found the information. Lengthy explanations, or worse > still spirited advocacy supporting the correction are unhelpful. > > I have submitted a correction to this entry on your behalf. > > Kevin. > FreeBMD Corrections Coordinator. > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Stringer [mailto:stringer@mstringer.net] >> Sent: 23 January 2006 05:15 >> To: FreeBMD-Admins-l@rootsweb.com >> Subject: {not a subscriber} Attempted Correction Failure >> >> >> Greetings, >> >> I attempted to submit a correction for a birth entry and am finding the >> submittal form and associated editing/screening? very >> difficult/frustrating. >> >> >> >> Per instructions, I filled in the corrected/updated information, >> comment box >> and email box. >> >> I first received an error message stating that I also needed to >> check a box. >> It took several minutes of re-looking, but I eventually found it -- >> buried >> in the text and verrrrrry difficult to see. >> >> I finally found and checked the box and tried again. This time the >> system >> doesn't like the source comments and I'm still getting an error message! >> >> I tried editing variations, without success. >> >> If you want no comments, then just put in multiple choice options. If >> you >> want limited comments, then set a number of characters. >> >> >> I hope that these difficulties are some sort of technical glitch and not >> intentional roadblocks to communication with the site. >> >> >> Here is the entry I'm trying to submit: >> Births 1867 June >> GOODSON Alfred La__am Stepney 1c 486 >> cokesidedoors >> <http://www4.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/transcriber.pl?s=5326&f=372493&d=b > md_1136360855 > 855> > Goodson Alfred L*m Stepney 1c 486 niksim > <http://www4.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/transcriber.pl?s=5535&f=594139&d=bmd_1136360 > 855> > > Correction: Lassam > Born: 17 May 1867 > Mo Mdn Name: LASSAM > > Source/Comments: > Index from site link. > > Note: > Recognize name, so able to update the existing partial transcription. > > Became Sir Alfred in 1920s. A brother, Frederick Lassam GOODSON, m. my > GAunt > and the shared middle name was an important 'clue' > > > Additional Comments (not from site form) > I already have the transcription, provided by a private researcher. I > don't > know which source was used. Likely fiche at a RO. > I also checked the image via your site link. The middle name is there, > but > difficult to see/transcribe. > Because the image is blurry, I included the Note in an effort to explain > that I was certain the information was correct. > > > Regards, > > Marsha Stringer (nee MEERE) > stringer@mstringer.net > USA > www.bittonfamilies.com > > > > > > ==== FreeBMD-Admins Mailing List ==== > Want to help FreeBMD? > Go to http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/Signup.html to find out how. > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > >

Am I missing something here. I subscribe to and use Ancestry every day for work on several family trees. It is excellent for census data but useless for BMD. On the other hand I turn to FreeBMD when I have a real problem and the answer is not in a census form. Ancestry do not have a commercial product for BMD without access to FreeBMD FreeBMD on the other is not dependent on Ancestry. So why can't FreeBMD charge Ancestry for the COMMERCIAL use of FreeBMD. Ted

Hi, The FreeBMD corrections process takes a significant amount of project resource, and the corrections form has therefore been designed to ensure that our instructions are read and complied with. I believe that the instruction you are not complying with is When completing the source field, please just tell us, in as few words as possible, where you found the information. Lengthy explanations, or worse still spirited advocacy supporting the correction are unhelpful. I have submitted a correction to this entry on your behalf. Kevin. FreeBMD Corrections Coordinator. > -----Original Message----- > From: Stringer [mailto:stringer@mstringer.net] > Sent: 23 January 2006 05:15 > To: FreeBMD-Admins-l@rootsweb.com > Subject: {not a subscriber} Attempted Correction Failure > > > Greetings, > > I attempted to submit a correction for a birth entry and am finding the > submittal form and associated editing/screening? very > difficult/frustrating. > > > > Per instructions, I filled in the corrected/updated information, > comment box > and email box. > > I first received an error message stating that I also needed to > check a box. > It took several minutes of re-looking, but I eventually found it -- buried > in the text and verrrrrry difficult to see. > > I finally found and checked the box and tried again. This time the system > doesn't like the source comments and I'm still getting an error message! > > I tried editing variations, without success. > > If you want no comments, then just put in multiple choice options. If you > want limited comments, then set a number of characters. > > > I hope that these difficulties are some sort of technical glitch and not > intentional roadblocks to communication with the site. > > > Here is the entry I'm trying to submit: > Births 1867 June > GOODSON Alfred La__am Stepney 1c 486 > cokesidedoors > <http://www4.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/transcriber.pl?s=5326&f=372493&d=b md_1136360855 855> Goodson Alfred L*m Stepney 1c 486 niksim <http://www4.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/transcriber.pl?s=5535&f=594139&d=bmd_1136360 855> Correction: Lassam Born: 17 May 1867 Mo Mdn Name: LASSAM Source/Comments: Index from site link. Note: Recognize name, so able to update the existing partial transcription. Became Sir Alfred in 1920s. A brother, Frederick Lassam GOODSON, m. my GAunt and the shared middle name was an important 'clue' Additional Comments (not from site form) I already have the transcription, provided by a private researcher. I don't know which source was used. Likely fiche at a RO. I also checked the image via your site link. The middle name is there, but difficult to see/transcribe. Because the image is blurry, I included the Note in an effort to explain that I was certain the information was correct. Regards, Marsha Stringer (nee MEERE) stringer@mstringer.net USA www.bittonfamilies.com

Thanks, Jeff. I had wondered myself. Carol Haycock (609) > [Original Message] > From: Jeff Coleman <jeff.coleman@ntlworld.com> > To: <FreeBMD-Admins-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: 1/23/2006 1:31:46 PM > Subject: Re: 'black holes' > > Try http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/vol_faq.html#13j for the answer. > > Jeff > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Michael Canny" <mcanny1931@yahoo.co.uk> > To: <FreeBMD-Admins-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 7:08 PM > Subject: 'black holes' > > > > Hi, > > > > Can someone please enlighten me as to why we are transcribing records > > well into the 20th century while there remain a number of 'holes' in the > > 19th century transcriptions? For example there are almost no births > > transcribed for the period 1854 to 1858 - and I'm sure I'm not the only > > one whose research is handicapped by this sort of gap. When I began > > transcribing, I had the impression that the first priority for FreeBMD was > > to complete the pre-1901 data - has this changed? > > > > Thanks > > > > Mike > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Yahoo! Messenger NEW - crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with > > voicemail > > > > > > ==== FreeBMD-Admins Mailing List ==== > > List archives > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/freebmd-admins > > > > ============================== > > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > > > > > > ==== FreeBMD-Admins Mailing List ==== > Need to get a fast answer to your transcribing problems? Go to the > Transcribers Knowledge Base at http://FreeBMD.RootsWeb.com/vol_faq.html > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&ta rgetid=5429 >

Hi Trevor. I'm afraid I'm one of those who finds most of the questions and answers on the list very helpful. Carol in Colorado (609) > [Original Message] > From: Trevor Barton <trevorbarton@msn.com> > To: <FreeBMD-Admins-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: 1/23/2006 1:26:45 PM > Subject: Re: spurious e-mails > > May I make a plea on behalf of the 99% of the subscribers to the admin list that are neither affected by, nor interested in, the subject matter of recent e-mails. This weekend alone there were 30+ messages, all of which should have been dealt with off list. Having just checked, a further 10+ today. > > The admin list is for the dissemination of IMPORTANT information to transcribers. It is a bona fide use to request help but, having got a response, thereafter it should be one-to-one. I resent having to read and delete this pointless information: I have far better uses for my time. > > If this "world gone mad" scenario continues I for one shall "unsubscribe". That would, potentially, be my loss but that is better than this continuing time wasting. Can't management issue or re-affirm guidelines for the use of the admin list? > > Trevor > ----- Original Message ----- > From: anthony.gillett1@ntlworld.com<mailto:anthony.gillett1@ntlworld.com> > To: FreeBMD-Admins-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:FreeBMD-Admins-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: 23 January 2006 07:43 > > > Anthony > i have had to rebuild my compurter and forgot to save the page for uploading pages to Derek and downloading file, could you send me the address for this page please. > > ----------------------------------------- > Email sent from www.ntlworld.com<http://www.ntlworld.com/> > Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software > Visit www.ntlworld.com/security<http://www.ntlworld.com/security> for more information > > > > ==== FreeBMD-Admins Mailing List ==== > Need to get a fast answer to your transcribing problems? Go to the > Transcribers Knowledge Base at http://FreeBMD.RootsWeb.com/vol_faq.html<http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/vol_faq .html> > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx<http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ash x> > > > > ==== FreeBMD-Admins Mailing List ==== > Subscribe/Unsubscribe instructions and Archives > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/FreeUK/FreeBMD-Admins.html > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx >

Unsubscribe Please plcleeve@dodo.com.au ----- Original Message ----- From: <Semassies@aol.com> To: <FreeBMD-Admins-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 3:23 AM Subject: Re: FreeBMD-Admins-D Digest V06 #11 > Dear All, > > I am surprised by the response here. I was told TWYS. > > In a similar situation- where the first names were out of sequence, my > coordinator advised me to transcribe the way the scan has recorded it. It will > still search. > > Shirley Simms > > > > > > > ==== FreeBMD-Admins Mailing List ==== > Subscribe/Unsubscribe instructions and Archives > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/FreeUK/FreeBMD-Admins.html > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.21/236 - Release Date: 20/01/2006 > >

Quoting Louise & Tim Atherton <athertonlt@optusnet.com.au>: > Could someone please inform me what TWYS means? > I have looked up all the email abbreviations & couldn't find it on any of the > website lists. > Louise "Type What You See" It is the answer to 95% of all transcription questions. -- Dave Mayall ---------------------------------------------- This mail sent through http://www.ukonline.net

Anthony i have had to rebuild my compurter and forgot to save the page for uploading pages to Derek and downloading file, could you send me the address for this page please. ----------------------------------------- Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information

--- cleevecopyshop <plcleeve@dodo.com.au> wrote: > Unsubscribe Please plcleeve@dodo.com.au > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <Semassies@aol.com> > To: <FreeBMD-Admins-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 3:23 AM > Subject: Re: FreeBMD-Admins-D Digest V06 #11 > > > > Dear All, > > > > I am surprised by the response here. I was told > TWYS. > > > > In a similar situation- where the first names were > out of sequence, my > > coordinator advised me to transcribe the way the > scan has recorded it. It > will > > still search. > > > > Shirley Simms > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== FreeBMD-Admins Mailing List ==== > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe instructions and Archives > > > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/FreeUK/FreeBMD-Admins.html > > > > ============================== > > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million > records added in the > > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the > world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.21/236 - > Release Date: > 20/01/2006 > > > > > > > ==== FreeBMD-Admins Mailing List ==== > Want to help FreeBMD? > Go to http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/Signup.html to > find out how. > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about > your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the > last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

I use BMDVerify all the time, it's easy In the opening box click for the file you have just been copying from, and yes it does come up big, you have to be able to read it. The next button brings up the file as you have just typed it. The next one gets the 2 lined up together. If the orange box is just under the first entry, hit enter, then line it up under the 10 entry, hit enter, make sure it's lined up under the first entry on the 2nd column, same with the third. When you click enter it will start the checking programme. Just read the orange box and the scan to make sure they are both the same. I would suggest you have your finished file open at this point. If you have made a mistake change it on your scan, press F3 minimise the box, press R and it's put right in the checker programme. When you come to the botom of the first column click on the number 2 at the bottom and the same for column 3. If you still get stuck give me a shout and we'll go through it step by step by email Glenys

selwyn When the page comes up with the orange box you need to line up the transcription you are checking, if its double, you will line up 3 different names then you should be ok to check. You move the orange boc down or up by using + or - key, You can alson move it with the mouse, hober over the orange box and left click mouse to move it where you want it Julie

Apologies for sending to the list what should have been a private email to one of the transcribers in my syndicate. I had forgotten that someone had recently changed the default 'reply' setting on the list mail. Jeff

Hi Susan I hope that someone is able to remove your name from the FreeBMD-Admins list. If not then send a message to FreeBMD-Admins-L-request@rootsweb.com with the simple word 'unsubscribe' as the only subject and text. That should work. Can you get in touch with me separately about whether you would like to continue transcribing. We are currently working on 1878 marriages, 1844 births and 1862 deaths. The printed pages are the 1878 marriages and that is what you would be doing. There may be a bit of a delay in my replying, as my mother (94) is in hospital 50 miles away from where I live, having had an operation yesterday. Thus I am not at my computer very often. I know that a number of transcribers were not very happy about doing the 1909 deaths pages. We have completed those now. Best regards and appreciation for what you were able to do. Jeff Co-ordinator of the Jeff Coleman syndicate of volunteer transcribers working for FreeBMD. See http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ for details of the project. ----- Original Message ----- From: <SsFttn@aol.com> To: <FreeBMD-Admins-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 7:02 AM Subject: unsubscribe >i was a subscriber but bot have time to do any for a long time can you > please arrange for me to be taken off your list. > > I do not want to keep recieving e-mails from other transcribers. > > I know this sounds silly but one of the reasons i stopped was when i was > given deaths to transcibe. the baby deaths upset me haveing lost my niece > to cot > death > > Thanks Susan Fitton SsFttn@aol.com > > > ==== FreeBMD-Admins Mailing List ==== > FreeBMD Transcribers homepage > http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/vindex.shtml > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > >

Quoting Jacky Middleton <jacky@kevock.freeserve.co.uk>: > Dear Administrators, > > I feel a bit of a traitor writing this Email, but I fancy that > other transcribers are having the same thought. Believe it or not, the trustees have their ear to the ground as well! > Now that we know what CAN be read on the original index after > seeing Ancestry's scans/photographs, As Ian says, that is based upon an assumption that the images have not been digitally enhanced. If they have been enhanced, then they will be of no use for transcription. If they haven't, then we will be seeking a formal agreement to their use. > it is going to be hard to work from the > FreeBMD scans. We shall all know that Ancestry subscribers will be able to > read things that are illegible to us. What fools we will all look! AND it > will undermine the user's confidence in FreeBMD. We will make haste slowly. Rest assured that if these images are suitable, we will be negotiating their use. > May I suggest, most humbly, that the administrators negotiate with > Ancestry to use their images. FreeBMD is in continual dialogue with Ancestry about a number of things. However, I'm sure that you will appreciate that it is in the nature of commercial negotiations that we are unable to share the exact details on a daily basis. -- Dave Mayall ---------------------------------------------- This mail sent through http://www.ukonline.net

Many thanks to those transcribers who responded to my appeal and particularly to Judith Manley I had been under the mistaken belief that the orange box contained the data that was on the .jpg image Didn't even try to scroll the box as I thought I should have been scrolling it down my transcription page All sorted now and had 7 full stops to insert (after forenames) that I had missed out Am now going back to upload the page and then start on the next one Thanks again Selwyn

Hi Selwyn I think I know what you mean - I had a similar problem with it, so I know what you're describing. However I'm not sure what I did to make it work properly. I usually reduce the size of the image using the 'maximize/minimize' button, then just pull the sides out. I can then have everything I want on the screen at the same time, even if they are in layers; I just place them so they are not all completely on top of one another. Hope this helps. Lesley ----- Original Message ----- From: "selwyn auty" <sabw1@tiscali.co.uk> To: <FreeBMD-Admins-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 8:15 PM Subject: BMDVerify > Hi there folks > > > > Can someone out there please help me get to grips with this confounded > programme It's driving me around the bend > > > > After I have input steps 1 and 2 of the set up I get a full screen image > of > the page (.jpg) that I have been transcribing from > > laying on top of it is the little orange box with the first item I have to > check on my transcription > > > > no matter what I have tried, I cannot reduce the size of this jpg image > > if I try to move it over the .BMD page which is what it ought to be > checking > it pushes the .BMD page behind > > if I try to get rid of the .jpg image (which I don't see any reason for > its > being there) the little check box goes with it > > > > can someone please give me a step by step idiots guide on how to run the > check prog properly > > > > desperately > > > > Selwyn > > > > Apologies folks if this message is duplicated but I don't think it went > out > first time at 2315 > > > > ==== FreeBMD-Admins Mailing List ==== > Want to help FreeBMD? > Go to http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/Signup.html to find out how. > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >