Just done a quick query, and there are abot 5000 cases Will look further 2008/10/28 Shirley Saunders <[email protected]> > Would it be possible to run a query against the database to see where > there's "(space)or(space)" in the spouse name field and let > transcribers know so we can correct it? I don't know how much work > that is for the programming staff. > Thanks > Shirley > Scan2 1440 > > On 28 Oct , 2008, at 1:31 PM, Allan Raymond wrote: > > > This is the sixth in a series of "Tip of the Day" to help > > volunteers who are > > transcribing for the FreeBMD Project. > > > > Suggestions for other "Tip of the Day" are welcome. > > > > Also any suggested improvement to the wording of this "Tip of the > > Day" is > > also encouraged. > > > > The Transcribers' Knowledge Base at: > > http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/vol_faq.html#6u provides the definitive > > advice > > for dealing with alternative names in records. > > > > I've been carrying out some checks of recent files uploaded by a > > number of > > transcribers to see how they dealt with records containing alternative > > names. In particular, where alternative spouse names are shown > > against a > > marriage record the advice in http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ > > vol_faq.html#6u in > > a number of instances was not being followed > > > > The correct way to transcribe a marriage record such as > > > > Dunn,Charles,Curphey or Bradley,W.Derby,8b,697 > > > > using the advice in http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/vol_faq.html#6u is > > > > Dunn,Charles,Curphey,W.Derby,8b,697 > > #COMMENT(2) entry reads Curphey or Bradley for spouse name > > Dunn,Charles,Bradley,W.Derby,8b,697 > > > > Please note, the #COMMENT(2) line is located between the two > > entries under > > consideration. > > > > Allan Raymond > > FreeBMD Co-coordinator of Syndicates > > > > > > FreeBMD-Admins mailing list - archive http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ > > th/index/freebmd-admins > > FreeBMD http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FREEBMD- > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > FreeBMD-Admins mailing list - archive > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/freebmd-admins > FreeBMD http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Dave Mayall

This is the sixth in a series of "Tip of the Day" to help volunteers who are transcribing for the FreeBMD Project. Suggestions for other "Tip of the Day" are welcome. Also any suggested improvement to the wording of this "Tip of the Day" is also encouraged. The Transcribers' Knowledge Base at: http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/vol_faq.html#6u provides the definitive advice for dealing with alternative names in records. I've been carrying out some checks of recent files uploaded by a number of transcribers to see how they dealt with records containing alternative names. In particular, where alternative spouse names are shown against a marriage record the advice in http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/vol_faq.html#6u in a number of instances was not being followed The correct way to transcribe a marriage record such as Dunn,Charles,Curphey or Bradley,W.Derby,8b,697 using the advice in http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/vol_faq.html#6u is Dunn,Charles,Curphey,W.Derby,8b,697 #COMMENT(2) entry reads Curphey or Bradley for spouse name Dunn,Charles,Bradley,W.Derby,8b,697 Please note, the #COMMENT(2) line is located between the two entries under consideration. Allan Raymond FreeBMD Co-coordinator of Syndicates

Would it be possible to run a query against the database to see where there's "(space)or(space)" in the spouse name field and let transcribers know so we can correct it? I don't know how much work that is for the programming staff. Thanks Shirley Scan2 1440 On 28 Oct , 2008, at 1:31 PM, Allan Raymond wrote: > This is the sixth in a series of "Tip of the Day" to help > volunteers who are > transcribing for the FreeBMD Project. > > Suggestions for other "Tip of the Day" are welcome. > > Also any suggested improvement to the wording of this "Tip of the > Day" is > also encouraged. > > The Transcribers' Knowledge Base at: > http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/vol_faq.html#6u provides the definitive > advice > for dealing with alternative names in records. > > I've been carrying out some checks of recent files uploaded by a > number of > transcribers to see how they dealt with records containing alternative > names. In particular, where alternative spouse names are shown > against a > marriage record the advice in http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ > vol_faq.html#6u in > a number of instances was not being followed > > The correct way to transcribe a marriage record such as > > Dunn,Charles,Curphey or Bradley,W.Derby,8b,697 > > using the advice in http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/vol_faq.html#6u is > > Dunn,Charles,Curphey,W.Derby,8b,697 > #COMMENT(2) entry reads Curphey or Bradley for spouse name > Dunn,Charles,Bradley,W.Derby,8b,697 > > Please note, the #COMMENT(2) line is located between the two > entries under > consideration. > > Allan Raymond > FreeBMD Co-coordinator of Syndicates > > > FreeBMD-Admins mailing list - archive http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ > th/index/freebmd-admins > FreeBMD http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FREEBMD- > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Yes transcribe it into its correct place. Liz --- On Fri, 24/10/08, karl and ellie <[email protected]> wrote: From: karl and ellie <[email protected]> Subject: To: [email protected] Date: Friday, 24 October, 2008, 9:30 PM I am transcribing 1930B3-E-0304 at the end of the first half of the page there is a typed entry that is out of order and a symbol has been put both beside this entry and also in the position that would have been the correct place. Should i treat this entry as a handwritten entry and insert it into its correct place or TWYS and leave it at the end. FreeBMD-Admins mailing list - archive http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/freebmd-admins FreeBMD http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Entry has to be inserted at the mark, even if it is out of sequence. Herbie.

I am transcribing 1930B3-E-0304 at the end of the first half of the page there is a typed entry that is out of order and a symbol has been put both beside this entry and also in the position that would have been the correct place. Should i treat this entry as a handwritten entry and insert it into its correct place or TWYS and leave it at the end.

Put it in where the mark is, even if it is not exactly where you would expect. http://www.freebmd.org.uk/vol_faq.html#6g applies. Most marks are clearly between two lines, especially if you look for the centre of an X or star shape. Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "BrianOakes" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 10:40 PM Subject: handwritten entry > Hi everyone. I am transcribing sep births at the moment, but I have a > handwritten entry that, if I place it where the X is, it is out of > sequence by one place on my list. > > do I go ahead, or insert in the correct position? > > Thanks. Herbie. > FreeBMD-Admins mailing list - archive > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/freebmd-admins > FreeBMD http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Ian If you read this can you contact me off list Thanks, David

Hi everyone. I am transcribing sep births at the moment, but I have a handwritten entry that, if I place it where the X is, it is out of sequence by one place on my list. do I go ahead, or insert in the correct position? Thanks. Herbie.

This conflicts with http://www.freebmd.org.uk/vol_faq.html#6z which should be followed. Barrie > -----Original Message----- > From: john mellors [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: 18 October 2008 18:23 > To: [email protected]; [email protected] > Subject: Re: query on handwritten notes > > Denise enter these in the indicated place as: > > Bell, Elizabeth F., Turner, Barnet, 3a,802B > #COMMENT a similar entry has been crossed out > > Bell, Bernice, Bright, Spalding, ?, see June'36 > #COMMENT a similar entry has been crossed out > > Bell, Elizabeth B., Murry, Chelmsford, ?, see M'38 > #COMMENT a similar entry has been crossed out > > Let me know if you have problems > > Best Wishes > John Mellors > http://jemello.users.btopenworld.com/johnm2 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Denise" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2008 4:27 PM > Subject: query on handwritten notes > > > > Hello > > > > I'm transcribing 1930B2-B-0074 and there are handwritten > entries at the > > bottom of the page, however some are crossed out - do I > leave them out > > of the transcription or do I put them in with a note to say > that they > > were deleted? And do I put them in at the end of the page > or where they > > fit into the alphabetical list? > > > > regards > > > > Denise > > FreeBMD-Admins mailing list - archive > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/freebmd-admins > > FreeBMD http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the message > > >

This conflicts with http://www.freebmd.org.uk/vol_faq.html#6z which should be followed. Barrie > -----Original Message----- > From: D LOWE [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: 18 October 2008 18:29 > To: [email protected]; [email protected] > Subject: Re: query on handwritten notes > > Hi Denise > > You wll have seen that all 3 of the crossed out records in > the second column > have been replaced with other handwritten additions > essentially the same. > > What we do in these cases is to enter the record, as > indicated on the page, > that has not been crossed out and enter a comment to say what > is on the > scan. A comment is entered in its entirety in the Surname > column immediately > below the record to which it refers. It must start with > #COMMENT and nothing > else is entered in the row. In the first case on the page I > would enter : > > Bell,Elizabeth J.,Turner,Barnet,3a,802B > #COMMENT Asimilar entry has been crossed out. > > Note that in the other 2 there is no volume number for the > district names so > you should enter Spalding,? and Chelmsford,? in the district > column. Both > entries should be followed by a similar comment to the one above. > > If you don't know how to enter the ' in the page column for > see June'36 and > See M'38 please get back to me. > > Regards > Derek > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Denise" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2008 4:27 PM > Subject: query on handwritten notes > > > > Hello > > > > I'm transcribing 1930B2-B-0074 and there are handwritten > entries at the > > bottom of the page, however some are crossed out - do I > leave them out > > of the transcription or do I put them in with a note to say > that they > > were deleted? And do I put them in at the end of the page > or where they > > fit into the alphabetical list? > > > > regards > > > > Denise > > FreeBMD-Admins mailing list - archive > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/freebmd-admins > > FreeBMD http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word > 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > ------------------ > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.173 / Virus Database: 270.8.1/1731 - Release > Date: 17/10/2008 > 19:01 > > >

As they are in alphabetical sequence I suggest simply transcribe them as they are, without any special mention. The writers of handwritten indexes occasionally did strange things for no obvious reason. Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "martin cerveno" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 12:34 AM Subject: Misaligned Forenames? > Hi All, > I have an entry 1851B3-E-1077. There are 2 entries of Selena and Selina > which are aligned beneath the 2nd Forenames with a space where the 1st > Forename would normally be, the following entries revert to type. This > appears to be intentional but I don't know - do I enter as is? should I > leave some sort of comment? > Any ideas much appreciated. > Martin

This is a candidate for a System Entry (see http://www.freebmd.org.uk/system-processes-help.html). It would be slightly better if #THEORY had been added rather than #COMMENT. What has been added is actually a combination of both, the first part (out of order) is a #COMMENT and the suggested correction is #THEORY. We are more like to pick up #THEORY for a System Entry than #COMMENT. Barrei > -----Original Message----- > From: Andrew Billinghurst [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: 19 October 2008 01:37 > To: [email protected] > Subject: GRO transcription errors in the typed births > > I have noticed that in the typed 1863 birth registers, where the > Registry has typed them from the original handwritten indices, that > there is an error. We have annotated this with a comment. > #COMMENT Surname is out of alphabetical order - could > be a mistype > of GOLLANCZ > > Typed: Gollanez > Original: Gollancz > http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/cgi/information.pl?r=34699803&d=bm > d_1223978767 > > >From other reference material (DNB, obituary) it could be said that > this is the birth of the noted English literatist Sir Israel Gollancz > (1863-1930). > > I wonder where we stand where the original index would seem to have > the correct name and it is GRO's reproduction that has failed a QC > test. Is this a case for having an entry under the original name? Or > some way to duplicate the entry under both spellings. > > Regards, Andrew > > > >

This could be a case for using #Theory, rather than #Comment. For example: #Theory Surname is Gollancz. However, if the entry is clear, there is no reason not to TWYS, as we are transcribing the indices, warts and all, not correcting them. Bill Hounslow http://www.boincsynergy.com/images/stats/comb-2147.jpg >>-----Original Message----- >>From: [email protected] [mailto:freebmd-admins- >>[email protected]] On Behalf Of Andrew Billinghurst >>Sent: 19 October 2008 01:37 >>To: [email protected] >>Subject: GRO transcription errors in the typed births >> >>I have noticed that in the typed 1863 birth registers, where the >>Registry has typed them from the original handwritten indices, that >>there is an error. We have annotated this with a comment. >> #COMMENT Surname is out of alphabetical order - could be a mistype >>of GOLLANCZ >> >>Typed: Gollanez >>Original: Gollancz >>http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/cgi/information.pl?r=34699803&d=bmd_1223978767 >> >>>From other reference material (DNB, obituary) it could be said that >>this is the birth of the noted English literatist Sir Israel Gollancz >>(1863-1930). >> >>I wonder where we stand where the original index would seem to have >>the correct name and it is GRO's reproduction that has failed a QC >>test. Is this a case for having an entry under the original name? Or >>some way to duplicate the entry under both spellings. >> >>Regards, Andrew >> >> >>FreeBMD-Admins mailing list - archive >>http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/freebmd-admins >>FreeBMD http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ >> >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FREEBMD-ADMINS- >>[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the >>subject and the body of the message >> >>No virus found in this incoming message. >>Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com >>Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.8.1/1732 - Release Date: 10/18/2008 >>6:01 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.8.1/1733 - Release Date: 10/19/2008 6:02 PM

Hi All, I have an entry 1851B3-E-1077. There are 2 entries of Selena and Selina which are aligned beneath the 2nd Forenames with a space where the 1st Forename would normally be, the following entries revert to type. This appears to be intentional but I don't know - do I enter as is? should I leave some sort of comment? Any ideas much appreciated. Martin

I transcribe mostly the old hand-written scans where for deaths there is no "age at death" and consequently the district name ends up close to the forename while the volume number is beside the page number for all events pre-1880s or so. It would be really useful to be able to have a blank field to bring district name and volume number beside one another as they appear in later volumes. CharlotteB Charlotte Burton-Bell Wellington NZ 6035 E.mail: [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: Jeff Coleman [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, 16 October 2008 4:09 a.m. To: [email protected]; [email protected]; brisipot Cc: David Lang Subject: Re: Using BMD verify There is a known issue when using BMDVerify current version on scans after 1930. The columns do not space out properly, as they do on similar scans from the 1920s. A fix which resolves this problem has been prepared and beta-tested but there is some delay in making it fully available. Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2008 1:19 PM Subject: Re: Using BMD verify > > If when you have the orange box up you repeatedly press the letter F key > it will enlarge the type in the box making it not only easier to read but > also help to line up the type with the scan. > > hope this helps, > > Adrian Jervis > > ----Original Message---- > From: [email protected] > Date: 15/10/2008 13:06 > To: > Subj: Re: Using BMD verify > > when your set up to use BMD verify use the alt and left arrow key to > shorten > it to size should line up then > hope this helps you > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "brisipot" > Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2008 12:11 PM > To: > Subject: Using BMD verify > >> Does anyone know if it is possible to space out the words on the 'text >> box' when using BMDverify so that they line up vertically with the >> original transcription columns? >> >> Regards, Brisipot >> FreeBMD-Admins mailing list - archive >> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/freebmd-admins >> FreeBMD http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > FreeBMD-Admins mailing list - archive > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/freebmd-admins > FreeBMD http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ______________________________________________________ > Hundreds of Free Games for all the family - http://www.tiscali.co.uk/play > ________________________________________________ > FreeBMD-Admins mailing list - archive > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/freebmd-admins > FreeBMD http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I have noticed that in the typed 1863 birth registers, where the Registry has typed them from the original handwritten indices, that there is an error. We have annotated this with a comment. #COMMENT Surname is out of alphabetical order - could be a mistype of GOLLANCZ Typed: Gollanez Original: Gollancz http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/cgi/information.pl?r=34699803&d=bmd_1223978767 >From other reference material (DNB, obituary) it could be said that this is the birth of the noted English literatist Sir Israel Gollancz (1863-1930). I wonder where we stand where the original index would seem to have the correct name and it is GRO's reproduction that has failed a QC test. Is this a case for having an entry under the original name? Or some way to duplicate the entry under both spellings. Regards, Andrew

Richard You've got me confused? You are looking for missing entries for Emery in 1844 Dec Deaths but you run Upload Report for 1844 Dec Births? Your missing entries in 1844 Dec Deaths were transcribed as EME_Y due to an original poor scan. A rescan http://images.freebmd.org.uk/GUS/1844/Deaths/December/UKD-01/1844D4-0203-rescan.JPG significantly improves on the original scan. This will allows the file containing these entries to be corrected. I'll request the Co-ordinator off list to arrange for the file to be amended. As an aside Upload Report shows files 44B40951 to 0956 and 44B40958 to 0961 to have been uploaded to FreeBMD back in 2004 and 44B40957 in 2006. Allan Raymond ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Oliver" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2008 9:40 PM Subject: December Quarter 1844 - did noone die? I've just done a search for a fairly common surname (Emery) for Deaths, 1844, All Quarters, All Districts. The first three Quarters produce several dozen deaths - but December has zero. And yet the charts suggest 1844D4 is completely transcribed.... Upload Report shows a number of Files missing from the line-up: 44B40951 to 0956 and 44B40958 to 0961 - this would account for the gap. Were they missed, or were they illegible? Richard Oliver Madrid, Spain [email protected] FreeBMD-Admins mailing list - archive http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/freebmd-admins FreeBMD http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I've just done a search for a fairly common surname (Emery) for Deaths, 1844, All Quarters, All Districts. The first three Quarters produce several dozen deaths - but December has zero. And yet the charts suggest 1844D4 is completely transcribed.... Upload Report shows a number of Files missing from the line-up: 44B40951 to 0956 and 44B40958 to 0961 - this would account for the gap. Were they missed, or were they illegible? Richard Oliver Madrid, Spain [email protected]

Hello Denise, The transcribers knowledge base deals with this question, see the link. http://www.freebmd.org.uk/vol_faq.html#6z Basically, you insert the entry aphebetically where indicated if it is hand written twice at base of column, and include any crossed through entries at the end of the column, with a #COMMENT "Entry crossed through" or words to that effect. Good luck Keith -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Denise Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2008 7:28 PM To: [email protected] Subject: query on handwritten notes Hello I'm transcribing 1930B2-B-0074 and there are handwritten entries at the bottom of the page, however some are crossed out - do I leave them out of the transcription or do I put them in with a note to say that they were deleted? And do I put them in at the end of the page or where they fit into the alphabetical list? regards Denise FreeBMD-Admins mailing list - archive http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/freebmd-admins FreeBMD http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message