Jeff Coleman wrote on Mon, 3 Nov 2008: >This could be because the font BMDVerify uses to match the scans is not >installed on the computer, and the 'nearest alternative' the computer has >selected is not alphabetic. He could try something like Word and look at the >range of fonts installed, type in something like the top surname of the file >he is transcribing, and see if he can match the 'symbols' with one of the >installed fonts, to verify this. There is also advice in Word Help about >obtaining extra fonts. Jeff, thanks so much for your reply. I'm sure you're right and that it is a font issue, since there is no problem running the program, just with the displayed transcription. I'm very grateful for the pointer. >If he is abroad and the laptop's 'home language' is not western European >there may be a very limited range of suitable fonts. I believe it's his wife's laptop, so should be set to UK locale. I just tried to identify which font Verify is using on my (XP) machine (font size is in the registry, but not which font is being used) and I think it's the bold variant of Courier New. Wouldn't that be installed as part of the core Windows set with Vista? It is with XP. > >Has he tried the 'restore defaults' option? This is on the starter screen >where you select the scan image, at the foot of the screen. I'm sure he hasn't :-) and I'll get him to try it. Thanks again, Jeff, I'll report back for the benefit of the archives if we solve the problem. Best wishes, -- Nowl

This could be because the font BMDVerify uses to match the scans is not installed on the computer, and the 'nearest alternative' the computer has selected is not alphabetic. He could try something like Word and look at the range of fonts installed, type in something like the top surname of the file he is transcribing, and see if he can match the 'symbols' with one of the installed fonts, to verify this. There is also advice in Word Help about obtaining extra fonts. If he is abroad and the laptop's 'home language' is not western European there may be a very limited range of suitable fonts. Has he tried the 'restore defaults' option? This is on the starter screen where you select the scan image, at the foot of the screen. Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nowl" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 2:56 PM Subject: Problem with BMDVerify and Vista > Hi everyone > > One of my transcribers, who normally uses XP, is abroad at the moment > and using a laptop with Vista installed. He's just emailed me with an > odd problem I don't remember hearing before: has anyone any ideas, > please? > > He writes that WinBMD is working fine, but: > >>when I ran BMDverify, instead of the names I typed in, the orange bar >>contains only symbols, so I don't know how to rectify the situation, >>and so far cannot check my input. > > He's running the latest version of both programs. If necessary we can > wait until he comes back to check and upload, but I'm intrigued and > would be grateful for any clues. > > Thanks all, > -- > Nowl

I can't help with the problem, but I can tell you that I'm using the latest BMDVerify with the latest Vista, and I'm having no problems at all.  --- On Mon, 3/11/08, Nowl <[email protected]> wrote: From: Nowl <[email protected]> Subject: Problem with BMDVerify and Vista To: [email protected] Date: Monday, 3 November, 2008, 2:56 PM Hi everyone One of my transcribers, who normally uses XP, is abroad at the moment and using a laptop with Vista installed. He's just emailed me with an odd problem I don't remember hearing before: has anyone any ideas, please? He writes that WinBMD is working fine, but: >when I ran BMDverify, instead of the names I typed in, the orange bar >contains only symbols, so I don't know how to rectify the situation, >and so far cannot check my input. He's running the latest version of both programs. If necessary we can wait until he comes back to check and upload, but I'm intrigued and would be grateful for any clues. Thanks all, -- Nowl FreeBMD-Admins mailing list - archive http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/freebmd-admins FreeBMD http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi everyone One of my transcribers, who normally uses XP, is abroad at the moment and using a laptop with Vista installed. He's just emailed me with an odd problem I don't remember hearing before: has anyone any ideas, please? He writes that WinBMD is working fine, but: >when I ran BMDverify, instead of the names I typed in, the orange bar >contains only symbols, so I don't know how to rectify the situation, >and so far cannot check my input. He's running the latest version of both programs. If necessary we can wait until he comes back to check and upload, but I'm intrigued and would be grateful for any clues. Thanks all, -- Nowl

As others have said transcribe the page field as "P/106, see M/30". But you can also add on the next line #THEORY,REF,See M/30 so the system can link up the late entry reference. Barrie > -----Original Message----- > From: Carol Haycock [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: 01 November 2008 22:04 > To: Free BMD > Subject: 1920B1P0049 > > I've discovered in checking my uploads that my correction of > the above rile will not be allowed to upload. The only > correction was on Line 138 for a missing space between the > "See" and the M/30. > > However, when II try to send that, I now get the message > "Expected 6 parts in BIRTHS at line 158 got 7 > (Pethcrick,Farrance V.,Lock,Exeter,5b,P/106, see M/30)" > > My transcription at Line 158 reads Pethcrick,Farrance > V.,Lock,Exeter,5b,P/106, see M/30 > #Comment This entry was at the end of page with no insertion > in text above. > > I don't think BMD likes the five characters after the > District Number, but that's what's on the page. > > Would someone please check the file and tell me what I need > to do to get my upload accepted? > > Many thanks, > > Carol Haycock #609 Scan2 >

Thank you all for the most helpful advice. I can see that I must have gone too quickly over the knowledge base help. There is definitely a comma after the P106 so I will just put that in quotation marks along with the See M/30 I will also have to correct Comment to be in caps. I know that and should not have missed it. Again, many thanks to all of you Carol

If the comma really is there, then put that field within quotes ... as per http://freebmd.org.uk/Format.shtml [quote] Commas within fields are permitted so long as that's how they appear in the source. Put the contents of the whole field in quotes. e.g. "St. Geo., Hanover Square" [end quote] or in this case "P/106, see M/30" Mark -- On 1 Nov 2008, at 22:14, Shirley Saunders wrote: > It's probably the comma between the 106 and see that it doesn't > like. Is there a comma in the original? Or could the page number be > P/106 see M/30 (ie. no comma). > Shirley > Scan2 1440 > > On 1 Nov, 2008, at 3:03 PM, Carol Haycock wrote: > >> I've discovered in checking my uploads that my correction of the >> above rile will not be allowed to upload. The only correction was >> on Line 138 for a missing space between the "See" and the M/30. >> >> However, when II try to send that, I now get the message >> "Expected 6 parts in BIRTHS at line 158 got 7 (Pethcrick,Farrance >> V.,Lock,Exeter,5b,P/106, see M/30)" >> >> My transcription at Line 158 reads Pethcrick,Farrance >> V.,Lock,Exeter,5b,P/106, see M/30 >> #Comment This entry was at the end of page with no insertion in >> text above. >> >> I don't think BMD likes the five characters after the District >> Number, but that's what's on the page. >> >> Would someone please check the file and tell me what I need to do >> to get my upload accepted? >> >> Many thanks, >> >> Carol Haycock #609 Scan2 >> FreeBMD-Admins mailing list - archive http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ >> th/index/freebmd-admins >> FreeBMD http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FREEBMD- >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > FreeBMD-Admins mailing list - archive http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/freebmd-admins > FreeBMD http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

I would see the surname as PETHERICK in the second handwritten entry, and Petherick in the first. However the problem preventing acceptance of your file is you putting in an extra comma in the text in the 'page' column. For the 'page' column you need to put either P106 see M/30 or if WinBMD will allow it "P106, see M/30" if you want to keep the comma. Also I suspect you should use capitals for #COMMENT , as in all the examples in Transcribers' Knowledge Base. Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carol Haycock" <[email protected]> To: "Free BMD" <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2008 10:03 PM Subject: 1920B1P0049 > I've discovered in checking my uploads that my correction of the above > rile will not be allowed to upload. The only correction was on Line 138 > for a missing space between the "See" and the M/30. > > However, when II try to send that, I now get the message > "Expected 6 parts in BIRTHS at line 158 got 7 (Pethcrick,Farrance > V.,Lock,Exeter,5b,P/106, see M/30)" > > My transcription at Line 158 reads Pethcrick,Farrance > V.,Lock,Exeter,5b,P/106, see M/30 > #Comment This entry was at the end of page with no insertion in text > above. > > I don't think BMD likes the five characters after the District Number, but > that's what's on the page. > > Would someone please check the file and tell me what I need to do to get > my upload accepted? > > Many thanks, > > Carol Haycock #609 Scan2 > FreeBMD-Admins mailing list - archive > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/freebmd-admins > FreeBMD http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I've discovered in checking my uploads that my correction of the above rile will not be allowed to upload. The only correction was on Line 138 for a missing space between the "See" and the M/30. However, when II try to send that, I now get the message "Expected 6 parts in BIRTHS at line 158 got 7 (Pethcrick,Farrance V.,Lock,Exeter,5b,P/106, see M/30)" My transcription at Line 158 reads Pethcrick,Farrance V.,Lock,Exeter,5b,P/106, see M/30 #Comment This entry was at the end of page with no insertion in text above. I don't think BMD likes the five characters after the District Number, but that's what's on the page. Would someone please check the file and tell me what I need to do to get my upload accepted? Many thanks, Carol Haycock #609 Scan2

It's probably the comma between the 106 and see that it doesn't like. Is there a comma in the original? Or could the page number be P/106 see M/30 (ie. no comma). Shirley Scan2 1440 On 1 Nov, 2008, at 3:03 PM, Carol Haycock wrote: > I've discovered in checking my uploads that my correction of the > above rile will not be allowed to upload. The only correction was > on Line 138 for a missing space between the "See" and the M/30. > > However, when II try to send that, I now get the message > "Expected 6 parts in BIRTHS at line 158 got 7 (Pethcrick,Farrance > V.,Lock,Exeter,5b,P/106, see M/30)" > > My transcription at Line 158 reads Pethcrick,Farrance > V.,Lock,Exeter,5b,P/106, see M/30 > #Comment This entry was at the end of page with no insertion in > text above. > > I don't think BMD likes the five characters after the District > Number, but that's what's on the page. > > Would someone please check the file and tell me what I need to do > to get my upload accepted? > > Many thanks, > > Carol Haycock #609 Scan2 > FreeBMD-Admins mailing list - archive http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ > th/index/freebmd-admins > FreeBMD http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FREEBMD- > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thanks All. Cracked it....

In WinBMD select function key F4 this will bring up the Special Character map/table. If you check out WinBMD help menu it will provide advice on how to paste a character from the Special Character map/table into your transcription data. Allan Raymond ----- Original Message ----- From: "BrianOakes" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 9:55 PM Subject: Re: query Hello, Can anyone tell me how to get the special characters, that appear in the foreign names, e's with little marks above. I can see them on my keyboard,but what do I press to use them????? Thanks. FreeBMD-Admins mailing list - archive http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/freebmd-admins FreeBMD http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

If you have an accented letter such as the first 'e' in Renee, in WinBMD, put the cursor where you want the accented e. Press the f4 key and a little table of special characters should appear. select the one you want and double-click the mouse. That should insert it. Remove any unwanted unaccented letter. Details are in the WinBMD help menu. You can drag out the corners of the table of special characters. Occasionally the table becomes very large and difficult to get rid of. In that situation closing WinBMD with Save Batch and Exit and then re-starting it should solve the problem. Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "BrianOakes" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 9:55 PM Subject: Re: query > Hello, Can anyone tell me how to get the special characters, that appear > in > the foreign names, e's with little marks above. I can see them on my > keyboard,but what do I press to use them????? > > Thanks. > > FreeBMD-Admins mailing list - archive > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/freebmd-admins > FreeBMD http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Brian, Got to WinBMD options tab and "show special character table" is sixth option from the bottom of the list -- Regards, Bruce -------------------------------------------------- From: "BrianOakes" <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 9:55 PM To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: query > Hello, Can anyone tell me how to get the special characters, that appear > in > the foreign names, e's with little marks above. I can see them on my > keyboard,but what do I press to use them????? > > Thanks. > > FreeBMD-Admins mailing list - archive > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/freebmd-admins > FreeBMD http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello, Can anyone tell me how to get the special characters, that appear in the foreign names, e's with little marks above. I can see them on my keyboard,but what do I press to use them????? Thanks.

Due to the number of instances of a space being inserted, it is now allowed. Barrie > -----Original Message----- > From: Mike Thomas [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: 28 October 2008 23:12 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Tip of the Day (No. 6) - Alternative Spouse > Names in MarriageRecords > > Thanks Allan - I think it's also worth stressing that there > mustn't be a > space between #COMMEMT and (2), as otherwise the #COMMENT is > only applied to > the line above, and not the second one below (the examples in > your Tip of > the Day are correct, of course). I learnt this from a > posting on this list > earlier this year, and it enabled me to go back and correct a > mistake I'd > made in several of my files. > > Cheers, > > Mike > > > > 2008/10/28 Allan Raymond <[email protected]> > > > This is the sixth in a series of "Tip of the Day" to help > volunteers who > > are > > transcribing for the FreeBMD Project. > > > > Suggestions for other "Tip of the Day" are welcome. > > > > Also any suggested improvement to the wording of this "Tip > of the Day" is > > also encouraged. > > > > The Transcribers' Knowledge Base at: > > http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/vol_faq.html#6u provides the > definitive advice > > for dealing with alternative names in records. > > > > I've been carrying out some checks of recent files uploaded > by a number of > > transcribers to see how they dealt with records containing > alternative > > names. In particular, where alternative spouse names are > shown against a > > marriage record the advice in > http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/vol_faq.html#6uin > > a number of instances was not being followed > > > > The correct way to transcribe a marriage record such as > > > > Dunn,Charles,Curphey or Bradley,W.Derby,8b,697 > > > > using the advice in http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/vol_faq.html#6u is > > > > Dunn,Charles,Curphey,W.Derby,8b,697 > > #COMMENT(2) entry reads Curphey or Bradley for spouse name > > Dunn,Charles,Bradley,W.Derby,8b,697 > > > > Please note, the #COMMENT(2) line is located between the > two entries under > > consideration. > > > > Allan Raymond > > FreeBMD Co-coordinator of Syndicates > > > > > > FreeBMD-Admins mailing list - archive > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/freebmd-admins > > FreeBMD http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word > 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >

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Response sent to [email protected] > -----Original Message----- > From: Shirley Saunders [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: 28 October 2008 21:00 > To: [email protected]; [email protected] > Subject: Re: Tip of the Day (No. 6) - Alternative Spouse > Names in MarriageRecords > > Would it be possible to run a query against the database to > see where > there's "(space)or(space)" in the spouse name field and let > transcribers know so we can correct it? I don't know how much work > that is for the programming staff. > Thanks > Shirley > Scan2 1440 > > On 28 Oct , 2008, at 1:31 PM, Allan Raymond wrote: > > > This is the sixth in a series of "Tip of the Day" to help > > volunteers who are > > transcribing for the FreeBMD Project. > > > > Suggestions for other "Tip of the Day" are welcome. > > > > Also any suggested improvement to the wording of this "Tip of the > > Day" is > > also encouraged. > > > > The Transcribers' Knowledge Base at: > > http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/vol_faq.html#6u provides the > definitive > > advice > > for dealing with alternative names in records. > > > > I've been carrying out some checks of recent files uploaded by a > > number of > > transcribers to see how they dealt with records containing > alternative > > names. In particular, where alternative spouse names are shown > > against a > > marriage record the advice in http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ > > vol_faq.html#6u in > > a number of instances was not being followed > > > > The correct way to transcribe a marriage record such as > > > > Dunn,Charles,Curphey or Bradley,W.Derby,8b,697 > > > > using the advice in http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/vol_faq.html#6u is > > > > Dunn,Charles,Curphey,W.Derby,8b,697 > > #COMMENT(2) entry reads Curphey or Bradley for spouse name > > Dunn,Charles,Bradley,W.Derby,8b,697 > > > > Please note, the #COMMENT(2) line is located between the two > > entries under > > consideration. > > > > Allan Raymond > > FreeBMD Co-coordinator of Syndicates > > > > > > FreeBMD-Admins mailing list - archive http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ > > th/index/freebmd-admins > > FreeBMD http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FREEBMD- > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > >

There was further correspondence about this as a result of your posting. I asked for a list of files with the space. Barrie did a quick check, found there were a lot and realised that most would never get corrected. The outcome was that Barrie changed the system so that now it doesn't matter if the there is a space between the #COMMENT and the (2). I don't keep copies of messages on the FreeBMD newsgroups so without a search through the archive file I can't point you to the actual message but I think it may have been on the syndicates list. Christopher Richards Mike Thomas wrote: > Thanks Allan - I think it's also worth stressing that there mustn't be a > space between #COMMEMT and (2), as otherwise the #COMMENT is only applied to > the line above, and not the second one below (the examples in your Tip of > the Day are correct, of course). I learnt this from a posting on this list > earlier this year, and it enabled me to go back and correct a mistake I'd > made in several of my files. > > Cheers, > > Mike > > > > 2008/10/28 Allan Raymond <[email protected]> > > >> This is the sixth in a series of "Tip of the Day" to help volunteers who >> are >> transcribing for the FreeBMD Project. >> >> Suggestions for other "Tip of the Day" are welcome. >> >> Also any suggested improvement to the wording of this "Tip of the Day" is >> also encouraged. >> >> The Transcribers' Knowledge Base at: >> http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/vol_faq.html#6u provides the definitive advice >> for dealing with alternative names in records. >> >> I've been carrying out some checks of recent files uploaded by a number of >> transcribers to see how they dealt with records containing alternative >> names. In particular, where alternative spouse names are shown against a >> marriage record the advice in http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/vol_faq.html#6uin >> a number of instances was not being followed >> >> The correct way to transcribe a marriage record such as >> >> Dunn,Charles,Curphey or Bradley,W.Derby,8b,697 >> >> using the advice in http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/vol_faq.html#6u is >> >> Dunn,Charles,Curphey,W.Derby,8b,697 >> #COMMENT(2) entry reads Curphey or Bradley for spouse name >> Dunn,Charles,Bradley,W.Derby,8b,697 >> >> Please note, the #COMMENT(2) line is located between the two entries under >> consideration. >> >> Allan Raymond >> FreeBMD Co-coordinator of Syndicates >> >> >> FreeBMD-Admins mailing list - archive >> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/freebmd-admins >> FreeBMD http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > FreeBMD-Admins mailing list - archive http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/freebmd-admins > FreeBMD http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

Thanks Allan - I think it's also worth stressing that there mustn't be a space between #COMMEMT and (2), as otherwise the #COMMENT is only applied to the line above, and not the second one below (the examples in your Tip of the Day are correct, of course). I learnt this from a posting on this list earlier this year, and it enabled me to go back and correct a mistake I'd made in several of my files. Cheers, Mike 2008/10/28 Allan Raymond <[email protected]> > This is the sixth in a series of "Tip of the Day" to help volunteers who > are > transcribing for the FreeBMD Project. > > Suggestions for other "Tip of the Day" are welcome. > > Also any suggested improvement to the wording of this "Tip of the Day" is > also encouraged. > > The Transcribers' Knowledge Base at: > http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/vol_faq.html#6u provides the definitive advice > for dealing with alternative names in records. > > I've been carrying out some checks of recent files uploaded by a number of > transcribers to see how they dealt with records containing alternative > names. In particular, where alternative spouse names are shown against a > marriage record the advice in http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/vol_faq.html#6uin > a number of instances was not being followed > > The correct way to transcribe a marriage record such as > > Dunn,Charles,Curphey or Bradley,W.Derby,8b,697 > > using the advice in http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/vol_faq.html#6u is > > Dunn,Charles,Curphey,W.Derby,8b,697 > #COMMENT(2) entry reads Curphey or Bradley for spouse name > Dunn,Charles,Bradley,W.Derby,8b,697 > > Please note, the #COMMENT(2) line is located between the two entries under > consideration. > > Allan Raymond > FreeBMD Co-coordinator of Syndicates > > > FreeBMD-Admins mailing list - archive > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/freebmd-admins > FreeBMD http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >