Hi Linda, I would say the handwritten word at the bottom of 1932B1D0272 is 'see' - so you would type in 'see S32' without the quotes - pointing the enquirer to the entry for Derek Dyball in the September quarter of 1932. Regards, Rosalind From: Linda Pagnani <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: Query for scan 1932 B1-D-0272 Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2008 21:57:28 -0500 Re: above scan At the bottom of the second column is a handwritten entry which changes the page number of the typewritten entry above. I've made the change of page number and added a comment below the corrected entry. The problem is that in addition to the new page number in the hand written entry is what appears to be a 3 letter word which looks like either ell or eu. Since I've never seen this before and can't seem to find my answer in the faq, can I have opinions as what this word is and whether or not it should be included in my comment and/or with the corrected page number for the pertinent entry?. Many thanks, Linda To contact the FREEBMD-ADMINS list administrator, send an email to [email protected] To post a message to the FREEBMD-ADMINS mailing list, send an email to [email protected] __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text.

It looks like - see S32. Regards, Susan ----- Original Message ----- From: Linda Pagnani To: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2008 2:57 AM Subject: Query for scan 1932 B1-D-0272 Re: above scan At the bottom of the second column is a handwritten entry which changes the page number of the typewritten entry above. I've made the change of page number and added a comment below the corrected entry. The problem is that in addition to the new page number in the hand written entry is what appears to be a 3 letter word which looks like either ell or eu. Since I've never seen this before and can't seem to find my answer in the faq, can I have opinions as what this word is and whether or not it should be included in my comment and/or with the corrected page number for the pertinent entry?. Many thanks, Linda

Hi, I agree - if you check September quarter births for 1932 you find an entry for the same Derek W Dyball. Mike On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 9:00 AM, John Crew <[email protected]> wrote: > Hello Linda, > > Looking at it through bleary early morning eyes, it looks like "see S32" > to me. > > John. > > Linda Pagnani wrote: > > Re: above scan > > At the bottom of the second column is a handwritten entry which changes > the > > page number of the typewritten entry above. I've made the change of page > > number and added a comment below the corrected entry. The problem is > that > > in addition to the new page number in the hand written entry is what > appears > > to be a 3 letter word which looks like either ell or eu. Since I've > never > > seen this before and can't seem to find my answer in the faq, can I have > > opinions as what this word is and whether or not it should be included in > my > > comment and/or with the corrected page number for the pertinent entry?. > > Many thanks, > > Linda > > > > FreeBMD-Admins mailing list - archive > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/freebmd-admins > > FreeBMD http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > FreeBMD-Admins mailing list - archive > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/freebmd-admins > FreeBMD http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello Linda, Looking at it through bleary early morning eyes, it looks like "see S32" to me. John. Linda Pagnani wrote: > Re: above scan > At the bottom of the second column is a handwritten entry which changes the > page number of the typewritten entry above. I've made the change of page > number and added a comment below the corrected entry. The problem is that > in addition to the new page number in the hand written entry is what appears > to be a 3 letter word which looks like either ell or eu. Since I've never > seen this before and can't seem to find my answer in the faq, can I have > opinions as what this word is and whether or not it should be included in my > comment and/or with the corrected page number for the pertinent entry?. > Many thanks, > Linda > > FreeBMD-Admins mailing list - archive http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/freebmd-admins > FreeBMD http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Jean For the blank forename I'd use a ? and perhaps also a Comment line (it's under Uncertain Character Format http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/beginhelp.shtml ) For the crossed through I'd transcribe the original and use a Comment again Regards Lesley ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jean Winfield" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2008 12:04 PM Subject: Transcribing. I have an entry in 1932 Q2 Births - Page 224 - where there is no Christian name - do I leave the space blank or insert a Comment. Also I have a surname - Thompson - with the P crossed through. Sould I transcribe the amended name or the original with a comment. I have looked in TKB but have found nothing relevant. Regards, Jean. _________________________________________________________________ See the most popular videos on the web http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/115454061/direct/01/ FreeBMD-Admins mailing list - archive http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/freebmd-admins FreeBMD http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Re: above scan At the bottom of the second column is a handwritten entry which changes the page number of the typewritten entry above. I've made the change of page number and added a comment below the corrected entry. The problem is that in addition to the new page number in the hand written entry is what appears to be a 3 letter word which looks like either ell or eu. Since I've never seen this before and can't seem to find my answer in the faq, can I have opinions as what this word is and whether or not it should be included in my comment and/or with the corrected page number for the pertinent entry?. Many thanks, Linda

If a field is empty or has a dash in it, follow Uncertain Character Format (UCF) rules and put in a question mark , ?. TKB 6aj http://www.freebmd.org.uk/vol_faq.html#6aj applies I assume you refer to the handwritten entry at foot of right column. TKB 6d http://www.freebmd.org.uk/vol_faq.html#6d applies to your second question. Put it in as Thomson , then #COMMENT handwritten amendment of original name Thompson There is a problem because the other change in that line , from 2018 to 2018a has to be commented on I suggest that you combine the comments as #COMMENT handwritten amendment of original name Thompson and of original page 2018 There could be a case for an extra example in 6(d) about what to do if a number is changed like this, from 2018 to 2018a - memo to writers of TKB Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jean Winfield" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2008 12:04 PM Subject: Transcribing. > > I have an entry in 1932 Q2 Births - Page 224 - where there is no Christian > name - do I leave the space blank or insert a Comment. > > Also I have a surname - Thompson - with the P crossed through. Sould I > transcribe the amended name or the original with a comment. > > I have looked in TKB but have found nothing relevant. > > Regards, Jean. > _________________________________________________________________

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This is how I would transcribe the entry in 1930-b-3-f-357. French John E. French Eastry 2a 1852 #COMMENT(2) Mothers maiden name has been crossed out and changed to Sheldon. French John E. Sheldon Eastry 2a, 1852 French John E. Sheldon Eastry 2a,See M59 I would be interested to know if others agree, to improve my understanding regards Sherilyn> From: [email protected]> Subject: FREEBMD-ADMINS Digest, Vol 3, Issue 219> To: [email protected]> Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 01:01:01 -0700> > > > Mail for the mailing list should be send to> [email protected]> > The website for the mailing list is> http://FreeBMD.rootsweb.com/> It contains all the information about the project and is current status.> Archives http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/freebmd-admins> > > Today's Topics:> > 1. Re: Slow downloading of scanned indexes ([email protected])> 2. Re: Slow downloading of scanned indexes (John Crew)> 3. Query for novice transcriber (broman)> 4. Re: Query for novice transcriber (john mellors)> > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------> > Message: 1> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 22:22:31 -0000> From: <[email protected]>> Subject: Re: Slow downloading of scanned indexes> To: <[email protected]>> Message-ID: <[email protected]>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";> reply-type=original> > I sometimes have that problem, all i do is just re start my laptop..this > seems to clear any gliches it may have....hope this helps> > Jan> ----- Original Message ----- > From: "PTW" <[email protected]>> To: <[email protected]>> Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 5:12 PM> Subject: Re: Slow downloading of scanned indexes> > > > Hi John,> >> > have you tried clearing your cache files? If your cache file is large > > this can slow down your machine.> >> > Registry Patrol v.3.0 works well - FYI: passwords and usernames are > > contained within cache files and are erased, so make a note of the ones > > you use.> >> >> > Cheers> > FreeBMD-Admins mailing list - archive > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/freebmd-admins> > FreeBMD http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/> >> > -------------------------------> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------> > Message: 2> Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 22:09:15 +0000> From: John Crew <[email protected]>> Subject: Re: Slow downloading of scanned indexes> To: [email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed> > Thank you Jan. I have previously tried rebooting but it doesn't help. I > have raised the problem with the FreeBMD support team although I am > beginning to think it may be a problem with my broadband provider.> > John.> > [email protected] wrote:> > I sometimes have that problem, all i do is just re start my laptop..this > > seems to clear any gliches it may have....hope this helps> > > > Jan> > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "PTW" <[email protected]>> > To: <[email protected]>> > Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 5:12 PM> > Subject: Re: Slow downloading of scanned indexes> > > > > >> Hi John,> >>> >> have you tried clearing your cache files? If your cache file is large > >> this can slow down your machine.> >>> >> Registry Patrol v.3.0 works well - FYI: passwords and usernames are > >> contained within cache files and are erased, so make a note of the ones > >> you use.> >>> >>> >> Cheers> >> FreeBMD-Admins mailing list - archive > >> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/freebmd-admins> >> FreeBMD http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/> >>> >> -------------------------------> >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > FreeBMD-Admins mailing list - archive http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/freebmd-admins> > FreeBMD http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/> > > > -------------------------------> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message> > > > > ------------------------------> > Message: 3> Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 12:06:00 +1100> From: "broman" <[email protected]>> Subject: Query for novice transcriber> To: <[email protected]>> Message-ID: <002401c94462$d43310d0$[email protected]>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"> > Can you please help me with the following:> > I am transcribing page 357 for 1930 births, Sept quarter, letter F. On the entry French, John E there is a crossed out name and Sheldon written alongside. Do I put See M_59 or 1852 as the reference? Is a comment required here?> > Also just a general question. When searching the scanned images as part of a family history search can you find someone registered who does not appear in the search procedure? I have used my password to try and find a name. I have had no luck when initiating a search. Could I find the name simply by trawling through the scans or is every image linked in to the search process?> > Many thanks.> Susan Broman> John Mellors Transcribers> > > ------------------------------> > Message: 4> Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 04:34:12 -0000> From: "john mellors" <[email protected]>> Subject: Re: Query for novice transcriber> To: <[email protected]>> Message-ID: <[email protected]>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";> reply-type=original> > Answered off list> > Regards> John Mellors> > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "broman" <[email protected]>> To: <[email protected]>> Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 1:06 AM> Subject: Query for novice transcriber> > > > Can you please help me with the following:> >> > I am transcribing page 357 for 1930 births, Sept quarter, letter F. On the > > entry French, John E there is a crossed out name and Sheldon written > > alongside. Do I put See M_59 or 1852 as the reference? 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I think TKB item 6(d) ( http://www.freebmd.org.uk/vol_faq.html#6d ) applies. This says that where the original entry is crossed out, transcribe the entry with the amendment and add a comment. You only need transcribe the original as well if it was *not* crossed through. So I would do it like this: French John E. Sheldon Eastry 2a 1852 #COMMENT Mother's name French crossed through and handwritten Sheldon added. French John E. Sheldon Eastry 2A See M59 -- Nowl sherilyn yared wrote on Thu, 13 Nov 2008: >This is how I would transcribe the entry in 1930-b-3-f-357. >French John E. French Eastry 2a 1852 >#COMMENT(2) Mothers maiden name has been crossed out and changed to Sheldon. >French John E. Sheldon Eastry 2a, 1852 >French John E. Sheldon Eastry 2a,See M59 >I would be interested to know if others agree, to improve my understanding

I have replied off list. Because this is a technical problem, it probably isn't appropriate for further discussion here. Therefore, can I respectfully ask for no further postings on this subject. Many thanks for all the replies. They were very much appreciated. Kind regards, John. PTW wrote: > Hi John, > > you say it might be a problem with your Broadband provider. Obviously, I don't know what set-up you have but I notice you are based in England and use BTinternet. You might try this - Microsoft XP users - on the bottom right-hand side of the taskbar hover your mouse over the twin monitor icon, a pop-up box should appear and give the speed and data received and sent, check this occasionally. If the icon is not there click 'Start' click 'Connect to' click 'BT ISP logo' . The same information is shown. > > I also use BTinternet and have found it to be very, very reliable with the correct speed shown every time I've checked. > > Regards > > Jeff > FreeBMD-Admins mailing list - archive http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/freebmd-admins > FreeBMD http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi, The problem of incorrect transcriptions should be picked up in due course by our quality control process of double keying http://www.freebmd.org.uk/process.html If you want to get the information corrected before that, then please feel free to submit formal correction requests (*) against any entries that you know are in error. You only need to submit a single correction to one surname from each event/Year/Quarter and I will ensure that all others affected will also be corrected. This correction process can take up to four months before the corrected entries are included in the searchable database. If you need any further advice, then please let me know Kevin S. Howell FreeBMD Corrections Coordinator (*) from the search results page, click the info button at the side of the entry you believe is in error and on the resulting page click the link to submit a correction. Complete the corrections form and send it. I will then investigate and arrange for the changes to be made. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Judy Twist Sent: 12 November 2008 10:42 To: [email protected] Subject: Kirkbride - Kirkbridge Hello there I have come across a problem with nearly all the enteries listed as Kirkbridge on the searchs you so wonderfully provide. Trying to find a birth for a relative I knew to have been Kirkbride I could not find her birth listed as Kirkbride on your search but found it under Kirkbridge along with many many listed over several years, but when I looked at the gro index pages that were used to transcripe this list the were all listed quite clearly on the index list as KIRKBRIDE no 'g' in sight, why have so many been wrongly transcribed? For example Sarah Kirkbride birth was reg in march 1/4 1912 at whitehaven is listed on gro index as such but on freebmd & ancestry search index as Kirkbridge and the same thing appears to have happened for many of her ancestors? Hope this can be soughted out as many Kirkbride researches will think there relatives where never born! regards J Twist FreeBMD-Admins mailing list - archive http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/freebmd-admins FreeBMD http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Can you please help me with the following: I am transcribing page 357 for 1930 births, Sept quarter, letter F. On the entry French, John E there is a crossed out name and Sheldon written alongside. Do I put See M_59 or 1852 as the reference? Is a comment required here? Also just a general question. When searching the scanned images as part of a family history search can you find someone registered who does not appear in the search procedure? I have used my password to try and find a name. I have had no luck when initiating a search. Could I find the name simply by trawling through the scans or is every image linked in to the search process? Many thanks. Susan Broman John Mellors Transcribers

Hello there I have come across a problem with nearly all the enteries listed as Kirkbridge on the searchs you so wonderfully provide. Trying to find a birth for a relative I knew to have been Kirkbride I could not find her birth listed as Kirkbride on your search but found it under Kirkbridge along with many many listed over several years, but when I looked at the gro index pages that were used to transcripe this list the were all listed quite clearly on the index list as KIRKBRIDE no 'g' in sight, why have so many been wrongly transcribed? For example Sarah Kirkbride birth was reg in march 1/4 1912 at whitehaven is listed on gro index as such but on freebmd & ancestry search index as Kirkbridge and the same thing appears to have happened for many of her ancestors? Hope this can be soughted out as many Kirkbride researches will think there relatives where never born! regards J Twist

Hi John, you say it might be a problem with your Broadband provider. Obviously, I don't know what set-up you have but I notice you are based in England and use BTinternet. You might try this - Microsoft XP users - on the bottom right-hand side of the taskbar hover your mouse over the twin monitor icon, a pop-up box should appear and give the speed and data received and sent, check this occasionally. If the icon is not there click 'Start' click 'Connect to' click 'BT ISP logo' . The same information is shown. I also use BTinternet and have found it to be very, very reliable with the correct speed shown every time I've checked. Regards Jeff

Answered off list Regards John Mellors ----- Original Message ----- From: "broman" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 1:06 AM Subject: Query for novice transcriber > Can you please help me with the following: > > I am transcribing page 357 for 1930 births, Sept quarter, letter F. On the > entry French, John E there is a crossed out name and Sheldon written > alongside. Do I put See M_59 or 1852 as the reference? Is a comment > required here? > > Also just a general question. When searching the scanned images as part of > a family history search can you find someone registered who does not > appear in the search procedure? I have used my password to try and find a > name. I have had no luck when initiating a search. Could I find the name > simply by trawling through the scans or is every image linked in to the > search process? > > Many thanks. > Susan Broman > John Mellors Transcribers > FreeBMD-Admins mailing list - archive > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/freebmd-admins > FreeBMD http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thank you Jan. I have previously tried rebooting but it doesn't help. I have raised the problem with the FreeBMD support team although I am beginning to think it may be a problem with my broadband provider. John. [email protected] wrote: > I sometimes have that problem, all i do is just re start my laptop..this > seems to clear any gliches it may have....hope this helps > > Jan > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "PTW" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 5:12 PM > Subject: Re: Slow downloading of scanned indexes > > >> Hi John, >> >> have you tried clearing your cache files? If your cache file is large >> this can slow down your machine. >> >> Registry Patrol v.3.0 works well - FYI: passwords and usernames are >> contained within cache files and are erased, so make a note of the ones >> you use. >> >> >> Cheers >> FreeBMD-Admins mailing list - archive >> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/freebmd-admins >> FreeBMD http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > FreeBMD-Admins mailing list - archive http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/freebmd-admins > FreeBMD http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I sometimes have that problem, all i do is just re start my laptop..this seems to clear any gliches it may have....hope this helps Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: "PTW" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 5:12 PM Subject: Re: Slow downloading of scanned indexes > Hi John, > > have you tried clearing your cache files? If your cache file is large > this can slow down your machine. > > Registry Patrol v.3.0 works well - FYI: passwords and usernames are > contained within cache files and are erased, so make a note of the ones > you use. > > > Cheers > FreeBMD-Admins mailing list - archive > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/freebmd-admins > FreeBMD http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message