I use Windows XP and presently have WinBMD in the Program folder and would prefer it to be just on my C/drive. Can I do this without fouling everything up and can I do it by just moving it. I find it easier to work with files I use the most to have them outside the Program folder. I hadn't thought I might be able to do this if the conversation hadn't come up re Vista. Thanks for any help Carol Haycock #609

Hi Jeremy, Thanks for the info, problem now solved. Ruth. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeremy Hakes" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 9:42 AM Subject: RE: District > > Hi Ruth > > I would guess you have this as a "Late Reference Entry"? (see Quarter > Year) > > Sittingbourne is in Kent and was created from 2nd Quarter 1941. This is > why > it is not yet in WinBMD > It was in Volume 2a until 30/6/1946, then > 5b until 31/3/1965, then > 5f until 31/3/1974, then > 16 fromv1/4/1974 onwards > > You can generally get information on such Districts by visiting GENUKI. > > Regards > Jeremy Hakes > For District Aliasing Team > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ruth Bostock > Sent: 21 November 2008 09:25 > To: [email protected] > Subject: District > > > Hi, > anyone help?am looking for a district, 'Sittingbourne' and cannot find it > on > my district pick list, never shown up on my files before. > > Ruth. > FreeBMD-Admins mailing list - archive > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/freebmd-admins > FreeBMD http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message Checked by AVG - > http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.8/1800 - Release Date: 19/11/2008 > 18:55 > > > FreeBMD-Admins mailing list - archive > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/freebmd-admins > FreeBMD http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.8/1801 - Release Date: 20/11/2008 09:11

Hi All I want to add my tuppenny worth to this. I have not used Vista but I have been involved in using a common program amongst an internet group. The vista users in the group had similar problems to those presently encountered with WinBMD. As I see it it is the Windows Users policies that causes the problem - nothing to do with where you install the program. If there are multiple users on a PC then Windows will put all individual users program settings and documents in that awful "Documents and Settings" folder in a user folder. Multiple users will be the setting if there is just one user and Admin. It is difficult to reset the computer to just an Admin setting once it is set up with users. My experience of many fresh computer installations tells me it is difficult to set up windows consistently so this User action is consistent. I reckon a Dell set-up may act differently from a HP set-up. good luck Bob Phillips ----- Original Message ----- From: "Keith Franklin" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 6:24 PM Subject: RE: WINBMD Output file >I use Vista and have installed WinBMD under c:/users/keith//winbmd. As Nowl > mentioned, I had problems trying to install under programme files, so > opted > to install under Users instead with not a hint of trouble since. > > Hope this helps > keith > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Nowl > Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 10:14 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: WINBMD Output file > > I had been wondering whether it might be a good idea to suggest that new > transcribers who are Vista users install WinBMD to a location other than > C:\Program Files. Would anyone like to comment? > > Michael, as I understand it, the problem is that Vista's tighter > security doesn't allow programs to write to folders or subfolders under > \Program Files -- which is where WinBMD's default Output folder will be > if the program is installed there. Instead the file path is invisibly > remapped to the VirtualStore while the program happily hums along not > realising anything has changed :-) > > Jeff's suggestion of using Define Save Path to set the "output" folder > to one of your choice is a good one, and this is what I do under XP. > However, I'm guessing (I don't have Vista myself so can't check) that > the remapping would affect more than just transcription files. > > What about WinBMD.ini, where program preferences and file and ID details > are stored, and the district, name and supplementary district files? > These are all written to and updated all the time and I suspect the most > current ones may also be found in the VirtualStore (Vista users please > correct me if I'm wrong about this). > > Mightn't it save a lot of confusion and make backing up these important > files easier if WinBMD were installed outside \Program Files in the > first place, avoiding the permissions problem? Not having Vista myself > yet, there may be some disadvantage I haven't appreciated, but maybe > it's a thought? > > -- > Nowl > > > Allan Raymond wrote on Wed, 19 Nov 2008: > >>Michael >> >>I quite agree with you, it seems to be a little convoluted to go to user, >>virtual store etc. >> >>It should only be necessary to go to C: and locate the WinBMD folder. In > my >>case WinBMD (similar to you) is in the root directory C:WinBMD because >>that >>is where I decided to install WinBMD when I downloaded it my PC, others >>may >>have decided to install in their Program folder. >> >>The output folder being a subfolder to the WinBMD folder. >> >>My specific example can be found here: >> >>http://www.btinternet.com/~allan_raymond/WinBMD.jpg > > > FreeBMD-Admins mailing list - archive > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/freebmd-admins > FreeBMD http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > FreeBMD-Admins mailing list - archive > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/freebmd-admins > FreeBMD http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.8/1800 - Release Date: 11/19/2008 6:55 PM

Hi Lawrence, Thanks for the info, problem now solved. Ruth ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lawrence Pearse" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 9:36 AM Subject: RE: District > > > Try this link, Ruth. > > http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/genuki/reg/districts/index.html > > Lawrence> From: [email protected]> To: > [email protected]> Subject: District> Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 > 09:24:57 +0000> > Hi,> anyone help?am looking for a district, > 'Sittingbourne' and cannot find it on my district pick list, never shown > up on my files before.> > Ruth.> FreeBMD-Admins mailing list - archive > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/freebmd-admins> FreeBMD > http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/> > -------------------------------> To > unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > _________________________________________________________________ > See the most popular videos on the web > http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/115454061/direct/01/ > FreeBMD-Admins mailing list - archive > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/freebmd-admins > FreeBMD http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.8/1801 - Release Date: 20/11/2008 09:11

Hello Brian, I'm glad it works for you. It seems strange that some people have this Vista problem and others don't. I have no technical knowledge so I can't take this any further. Regards Frank ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Smart" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 9:59 AM Subject: RE: WINBMD Output file > > Hello Frank, > It can't be quite as simple as you thing as my version of WinBMD is loaded > in the programs folder and I don't have any problems. The output folder is > where I would expect it to be. > Regards > > Brian Smart > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Frank Hodgson > Sent: 21 November 2008 09:12 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: WINBMD Output file > > Allan > > I am grateful for the recent comments on the list about the need to > install > WinBMD in the root directory and not in the Program Files folder. I have > just uninstalled WinBMD then reinstalled it in the root directory as > advised. > This has eliminated my problem of files being saved to a VirtualStore > folder. > > I think the problem has been caused by people like myself, when initially > installing WinBMD into Vista, accepting the default location in the > installation process, which is shown as C:\Program Files\WinBMD and I'm > sure > > that your offer of some clearer instructions will help. > > Regards > Frank Hodgson > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Allan Raymond" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 8:52 PM > Subject: Re: WINBMD Output file > > >> >> Jeff >> >> Valid point, I'll put a task on the system to cover two instructions. >> >> However I always took the instructions on >> http://www.freebmd.org.uk/addons/winbmd i.e. >> >> WinBMD is a separate program from SpeedBMD and should not be installed in >> the SpeedBMD folder, but into its own folder on your hard drive to mean >> set >> up a folder named WinBMD in the root directory i.e. C;/WinBMD. >> >> Allan Raymond >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Jeff Coleman" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 8:42 PM >> Subject: Re: WINBMD Output file >> >> >> Might it be appropriate to add something to >> http://www.freebmd.org.uk/vol_faq.html#3b or to >> http://www.freebmd.org.uk/addons/winbmd/, or both? >> >> Maybe simply something for syndicate co-ordinators to mention in >> instructions to new transcribers. >> >> Jeff >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "david mayall" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 8:11 PM >> Subject: Re: WINBMD Output file >> >> >>> 2008/11/19 Michael Kenneth Griffiths <[email protected]> >>> >>>> I'm puzzled by all of this. I have Vista. When I installed WinBMD, I >>>> put >>>> it >>>> onto the root directory under the folder name WinBMD (surprise!). With >>>> no >>>> further effort on my part, all of the output files turn up in >>>> .......WinBMD/Output. >>>> >>>> I assume that this folder is created automatically by WinBMD. >>>> >>> >>> The problem comes if you install WinBMD under program files. >>> >>> Vista doesn't approve of programs storing data there, so it does some >>> virtual linking. >>> >>> -- >>> Dave Mayall >> >> FreeBMD-Admins mailing list - archive >> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/freebmd-admins >> FreeBMD http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> FreeBMD-Admins mailing list - archive >> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/freebmd-admins >> FreeBMD http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > FreeBMD-Admins mailing list - archive > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/freebmd-admins > FreeBMD http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > FreeBMD-Admins mailing list - archive > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/freebmd-admins > FreeBMD http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello Frank, It can't be quite as simple as you thing as my version of WinBMD is loaded in the programs folder and I don't have any problems. The output folder is where I would expect it to be. Regards Brian Smart -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Frank Hodgson Sent: 21 November 2008 09:12 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: WINBMD Output file Allan I am grateful for the recent comments on the list about the need to install WinBMD in the root directory and not in the Program Files folder. I have just uninstalled WinBMD then reinstalled it in the root directory as advised. This has eliminated my problem of files being saved to a VirtualStore folder. I think the problem has been caused by people like myself, when initially installing WinBMD into Vista, accepting the default location in the installation process, which is shown as C:\Program Files\WinBMD and I'm sure that your offer of some clearer instructions will help. Regards Frank Hodgson ----- Original Message ----- From: "Allan Raymond" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 8:52 PM Subject: Re: WINBMD Output file > > Jeff > > Valid point, I'll put a task on the system to cover two instructions. > > However I always took the instructions on > http://www.freebmd.org.uk/addons/winbmd i.e. > > WinBMD is a separate program from SpeedBMD and should not be installed in > the SpeedBMD folder, but into its own folder on your hard drive to mean > set > up a folder named WinBMD in the root directory i.e. C;/WinBMD. > > Allan Raymond > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jeff Coleman" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 8:42 PM > Subject: Re: WINBMD Output file > > > Might it be appropriate to add something to > http://www.freebmd.org.uk/vol_faq.html#3b or to > http://www.freebmd.org.uk/addons/winbmd/, or both? > > Maybe simply something for syndicate co-ordinators to mention in > instructions to new transcribers. > > Jeff > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "david mayall" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 8:11 PM > Subject: Re: WINBMD Output file > > >> 2008/11/19 Michael Kenneth Griffiths <[email protected]> >> >>> I'm puzzled by all of this. I have Vista. When I installed WinBMD, I put >>> it >>> onto the root directory under the folder name WinBMD (surprise!). With >>> no >>> further effort on my part, all of the output files turn up in >>> .......WinBMD/Output. >>> >>> I assume that this folder is created automatically by WinBMD. >>> >> >> The problem comes if you install WinBMD under program files. >> >> Vista doesn't approve of programs storing data there, so it does some >> virtual linking. >> >> -- >> Dave Mayall > > FreeBMD-Admins mailing list - archive > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/freebmd-admins > FreeBMD http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > FreeBMD-Admins mailing list - archive > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/freebmd-admins > FreeBMD http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > FreeBMD-Admins mailing list - archive http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/freebmd-admins FreeBMD http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Ruth I would guess you have this as a "Late Reference Entry"? (see Quarter Year) Sittingbourne is in Kent and was created from 2nd Quarter 1941. This is why it is not yet in WinBMD It was in Volume 2a until 30/6/1946, then 5b until 31/3/1965, then 5f until 31/3/1974, then 16 fromv1/4/1974 onwards You can generally get information on such Districts by visiting GENUKI. Regards Jeremy Hakes For District Aliasing Team -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ruth Bostock Sent: 21 November 2008 09:25 To: [email protected] Subject: District Hi, anyone help?am looking for a district, 'Sittingbourne' and cannot find it on my district pick list, never shown up on my files before. Ruth. FreeBMD-Admins mailing list - archive http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/freebmd-admins FreeBMD http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.8/1800 - Release Date: 19/11/2008 18:55

Try this link, Ruth. http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/genuki/reg/districts/index.html Lawrence> From: [email protected]> To: [email protected]> Subject: District> Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 09:24:57 +0000> > Hi,> anyone help?am looking for a district, 'Sittingbourne' and cannot find it on my district pick list, never shown up on my files before.> > Ruth.> FreeBMD-Admins mailing list - archive http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/freebmd-admins> FreeBMD http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/> > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ See the most popular videos on the web http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/115454061/direct/01/

Hi, anyone help?am looking for a district, 'Sittingbourne' and cannot find it on my district pick list, never shown up on my files before. Ruth.

Allan I am grateful for the recent comments on the list about the need to install WinBMD in the root directory and not in the Program Files folder. I have just uninstalled WinBMD then reinstalled it in the root directory as advised. This has eliminated my problem of files being saved to a VirtualStore folder. I think the problem has been caused by people like myself, when initially installing WinBMD into Vista, accepting the default location in the installation process, which is shown as C:\Program Files\WinBMD and I'm sure that your offer of some clearer instructions will help. Regards Frank Hodgson ----- Original Message ----- From: "Allan Raymond" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 8:52 PM Subject: Re: WINBMD Output file > > Jeff > > Valid point, I'll put a task on the system to cover two instructions. > > However I always took the instructions on > http://www.freebmd.org.uk/addons/winbmd i.e. > > WinBMD is a separate program from SpeedBMD and should not be installed in > the SpeedBMD folder, but into its own folder on your hard drive to mean > set > up a folder named WinBMD in the root directory i.e. C;/WinBMD. > > Allan Raymond > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jeff Coleman" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 8:42 PM > Subject: Re: WINBMD Output file > > > Might it be appropriate to add something to > http://www.freebmd.org.uk/vol_faq.html#3b or to > http://www.freebmd.org.uk/addons/winbmd/, or both? > > Maybe simply something for syndicate co-ordinators to mention in > instructions to new transcribers. > > Jeff > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "david mayall" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 8:11 PM > Subject: Re: WINBMD Output file > > >> 2008/11/19 Michael Kenneth Griffiths <[email protected]> >> >>> I'm puzzled by all of this. I have Vista. When I installed WinBMD, I put >>> it >>> onto the root directory under the folder name WinBMD (surprise!). With >>> no >>> further effort on my part, all of the output files turn up in >>> .......WinBMD/Output. >>> >>> I assume that this folder is created automatically by WinBMD. >>> >> >> The problem comes if you install WinBMD under program files. >> >> Vista doesn't approve of programs storing data there, so it does some >> virtual linking. >> >> -- >> Dave Mayall > > FreeBMD-Admins mailing list - archive > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/freebmd-admins > FreeBMD http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > FreeBMD-Admins mailing list - archive > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/freebmd-admins > FreeBMD http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

On Fri, 21 Nov 2008 08:13:32 -0000 "Peter Ayres" <[email protected]> wrote: Hello Peter, > Perhaps it's time for our intrepid programmers to write Linux > versions of WinBMD and BMDverify. LinBMD exists, but as yet there's no equivalent of BMDVerify for *nix OSes. For LinBMD visit; http://higgs.co.za/linbmd.php

Perhaps it's time for our intrepid programmers to write Linux versions of WinBMD and BMDverify. Peter Ayres

Hi All Is there a programmer out there that uses QT3 or QT4. If the WinBMD, BMDverify were ported to that Language then we could have a universal programs, As this code cand be run on Windows, Or Mac's or Linux systems with exactly the same feel/options. Instead of the three versions of WinBMD, MacBMD and LinuxBMD that exist now with a different feel/options. and currently no verify for Mac or Linux systems. At 03:13 AM 21/11/2008, Peter Ayres wrote: >Perhaps it's time for our intrepid programmers to write Linux versions of >WinBMD and BMDverify. > >Peter Ayres > > >FreeBMD-Admins mailing list - archive >http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/freebmd-admins >FreeBMD http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Cheers Derek Derek C Hopkins, Phone +1(450)678-7768 6640, Biarritz, Fax +1(450)678-4252 Brossard, E-Mail [email protected] QC, Canada, J4Z-2A2. ==== FreeBMD - England and Wales - Birth - Marriage and Death Transcriptions <http://FreeBMD.rootsweb.com> ==== Check out FreeBMD Scan2 Syndicate page (revised daily) Please bookmark our new home http://www.scan2.ca/scan2.html ==== Check out QFHS Marriage Transcription Project page (revised daily) (Quebec Family History Society) Please bookmark our new home http://www.scan2.ca/qfhs.html Check out Abney Park Indexing Project (revised 14 MAR 2008, 195,000 names) <http://scan2.ca/nlisa .html> Check out the Quebec Family History web page <http://www.qfhs.ca/index.html>

I use Vista and have installed WinBMD under c:/users/keith//winbmd. As Nowl mentioned, I had problems trying to install under programme files, so opted to install under Users instead with not a hint of trouble since. Hope this helps keith -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Nowl Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 10:14 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: WINBMD Output file I had been wondering whether it might be a good idea to suggest that new transcribers who are Vista users install WinBMD to a location other than C:\Program Files. Would anyone like to comment? Michael, as I understand it, the problem is that Vista's tighter security doesn't allow programs to write to folders or subfolders under \Program Files -- which is where WinBMD's default Output folder will be if the program is installed there. Instead the file path is invisibly remapped to the VirtualStore while the program happily hums along not realising anything has changed :-) Jeff's suggestion of using Define Save Path to set the "output" folder to one of your choice is a good one, and this is what I do under XP. However, I'm guessing (I don't have Vista myself so can't check) that the remapping would affect more than just transcription files. What about WinBMD.ini, where program preferences and file and ID details are stored, and the district, name and supplementary district files? These are all written to and updated all the time and I suspect the most current ones may also be found in the VirtualStore (Vista users please correct me if I'm wrong about this). Mightn't it save a lot of confusion and make backing up these important files easier if WinBMD were installed outside \Program Files in the first place, avoiding the permissions problem? Not having Vista myself yet, there may be some disadvantage I haven't appreciated, but maybe it's a thought? -- Nowl Allan Raymond wrote on Wed, 19 Nov 2008: >Michael > >I quite agree with you, it seems to be a little convoluted to go to user, >virtual store etc. > >It should only be necessary to go to C: and locate the WinBMD folder. In my >case WinBMD (similar to you) is in the root directory C:WinBMD because that >is where I decided to install WinBMD when I downloaded it my PC, others may >have decided to install in their Program folder. > >The output folder being a subfolder to the WinBMD folder. > >My specific example can be found here: > >http://www.btinternet.com/~allan_raymond/WinBMD.jpg FreeBMD-Admins mailing list - archive http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/freebmd-admins FreeBMD http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Jeff Valid point, I'll put a task on the system to cover two instructions. However I always took the instructions on http://www.freebmd.org.uk/addons/winbmd i.e. WinBMD is a separate program from SpeedBMD and should not be installed in the SpeedBMD folder, but into its own folder on your hard drive to mean set up a folder named WinBMD in the root directory i.e. C;/WinBMD. Allan Raymond ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Coleman" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 8:42 PM Subject: Re: WINBMD Output file Might it be appropriate to add something to http://www.freebmd.org.uk/vol_faq.html#3b or to http://www.freebmd.org.uk/addons/winbmd/, or both? Maybe simply something for syndicate co-ordinators to mention in instructions to new transcribers. Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "david mayall" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 8:11 PM Subject: Re: WINBMD Output file > 2008/11/19 Michael Kenneth Griffiths <[email protected]> > >> I'm puzzled by all of this. I have Vista. When I installed WinBMD, I put >> it >> onto the root directory under the folder name WinBMD (surprise!). With no >> further effort on my part, all of the output files turn up in >> .......WinBMD/Output. >> >> I assume that this folder is created automatically by WinBMD. >> > > The problem comes if you install WinBMD under program files. > > Vista doesn't approve of programs storing data there, so it does some > virtual linking. > > -- > Dave Mayall FreeBMD-Admins mailing list - archive http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/freebmd-admins FreeBMD http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Might it be appropriate to add something to http://www.freebmd.org.uk/vol_faq.html#3b or to http://www.freebmd.org.uk/addons/winbmd/, or both? Maybe simply something for syndicate co-ordinators to mention in instructions to new transcribers. Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "david mayall" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 8:11 PM Subject: Re: WINBMD Output file > 2008/11/19 Michael Kenneth Griffiths <[email protected]> > >> I'm puzzled by all of this. I have Vista. When I installed WinBMD, I put >> it >> onto the root directory under the folder name WinBMD (surprise!). With no >> further effort on my part, all of the output files turn up in >> .......WinBMD/Output. >> >> I assume that this folder is created automatically by WinBMD. >> > > The problem comes if you install WinBMD under program files. > > Vista doesn't approve of programs storing data there, so it does some > virtual linking. > > -- > Dave Mayall

Yes - that's what I meant. Any program installed in Prog. Files is immediately prey to Vista's rather intrusive interference - including refusing access to you unless you have Admin. rights. The best all-round solution is to disallow any installation to that folder. --- On Thu, 20/11/08, david mayall <[email protected]> wrote: From: david mayall <[email protected]> Subject: Re: WINBMD Output file To: [email protected] Date: Thursday, 20 November, 2008, 8:11 PM 2008/11/19 Michael Kenneth Griffiths <[email protected]> > I'm puzzled by all of this. I have Vista. When I installed WinBMD, I put it > onto the root directory under the folder name WinBMD (surprise!). With no > further effort on my part, all of the output files turn up in > .......WinBMD/Output. > > I assume that this folder is created automatically by WinBMD. > The problem comes if you install WinBMD under program files. Vista doesn't approve of programs storing data there, so it does some virtual linking. -- Dave Mayall FreeBMD-Admins mailing list - archive http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/freebmd-admins FreeBMD http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

2008/11/19 Michael Kenneth Griffiths <[email protected]> > I'm puzzled by all of this. I have Vista. When I installed WinBMD, I put it > onto the root directory under the folder name WinBMD (surprise!). With no > further effort on my part, all of the output files turn up in > .......WinBMD/Output. > > I assume that this folder is created automatically by WinBMD. > The problem comes if you install WinBMD under program files. Vista doesn't approve of programs storing data there, so it does some virtual linking. -- Dave Mayall

I had been wondering whether it might be a good idea to suggest that new transcribers who are Vista users install WinBMD to a location other than C:\Program Files. Would anyone like to comment? Michael, as I understand it, the problem is that Vista's tighter security doesn't allow programs to write to folders or subfolders under \Program Files -- which is where WinBMD's default Output folder will be if the program is installed there. Instead the file path is invisibly remapped to the VirtualStore while the program happily hums along not realising anything has changed :-) Jeff's suggestion of using Define Save Path to set the "output" folder to one of your choice is a good one, and this is what I do under XP. However, I'm guessing (I don't have Vista myself so can't check) that the remapping would affect more than just transcription files. What about WinBMD.ini, where program preferences and file and ID details are stored, and the district, name and supplementary district files? These are all written to and updated all the time and I suspect the most current ones may also be found in the VirtualStore (Vista users please correct me if I'm wrong about this). Mightn't it save a lot of confusion and make backing up these important files easier if WinBMD were installed outside \Program Files in the first place, avoiding the permissions problem? Not having Vista myself yet, there may be some disadvantage I haven't appreciated, but maybe it's a thought? -- Nowl Allan Raymond wrote on Wed, 19 Nov 2008: >Michael > >I quite agree with you, it seems to be a little convoluted to go to user, >virtual store etc. > >It should only be necessary to go to C: and locate the WinBMD folder. In my >case WinBMD (similar to you) is in the root directory C:WinBMD because that >is where I decided to install WinBMD when I downloaded it my PC, others may >have decided to install in their Program folder. > >The output folder being a subfolder to the WinBMD folder. > >My specific example can be found here: > >http://www.btinternet.com/~allan_raymond/WinBMD.jpg

Michael I quite agree with you, it seems to be a little convoluted to go to user, virtual store etc. It should only be necessary to go to C: and locate the WinBMD folder. In my case WinBMD (similar to you) is in the root directory C:WinBMD because that is where I decided to install WinBMD when I downloaded it my PC, others may have decided to install in their Program folder. The output folder being a subfolder to the WinBMD folder. My specific example can be found here: http://www.btinternet.com/~allan_raymond/WinBMD.jpg Allan Raymond ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Kenneth Griffiths" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 8:10 PM Subject: Re: WINBMD Output file I'm puzzled by all of this. I have Vista. When I installed WinBMD, I put it onto the root directory under the folder name WinBMD (surprise!). With no further effort on my part, all of the output files turn up in .......WinBMD/Output. I assume that this folder is created automatically by WinBMD. --- On Wed, 19/11/08, M Nasmith <[email protected]> wrote: From: M Nasmith <[email protected]> Subject: WINBMD Output file To: [email protected] Date: Wednesday, 19 November, 2008, 8:02 PM I have Vista Home Premium and have tried to follow the track that everyone mentions (C:/ users/ (select your own user name) / App Data / Local / Virtual Store /Program Files / WinBMD / Output) but cannot find App Data, or Virtual Store. When I go direct to Program Files/WinBMD there is no Output file. Any more ideas, please? Mildred FreeBMD-Admins mailing list - archive http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/freebmd-admins FreeBMD http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message FreeBMD-Admins mailing list - archive http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/freebmd-admins FreeBMD http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message