Why am I getting this warning? Volume is expected to be numbers (Roman or Arabic) optionally followed by A to H, got '6_' at line 59 (BROOKS,Albert,Newcastle L,6_,60) This is in 1861B4B0132 I would have thought this was correct if the letter is not readable Christopher Richards

Are we in danger of spending too much time on what is not going to be an issue (other than what is technically "right")? If the volume is transcribed as _d, when it is loaded the FreeBMD mechanism will link it to the correct district and researchers will be able to find it. Although I try very hard, I am sure there are bigger errors in my transcriptions than this. Back to transcribing perhaps!! Kind regards Graham -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of Bill Hounslow Sent: 03 December 2008 08:34 To: [email protected] Subject: RE: Scan 1920D2-J-0379.jpg - problem with volume field You could use _{0,1} to show that there may be 0 or 1 missing characters, but even that's not strictly accurate, as there could theoretically be more than 1 missing character. Bill Hounslow http://www.boincsynergy.com/images/stats/comb-2147.jpg >>-----Original Message----- >>From: [email protected] [mailto:freebmd-admins- >>[email protected]] On Behalf Of Brian Smart >>Sent: 02 December 2008 18:24 >>To: [email protected] >>Subject: RE: Scan 1920D2-J-0379.jpg - problem with volume field >> >>Hello Allan, >>I made a mistake! The problem is that the number is missing not >>unreadable. >>There is no option that is totally correct to deal with the situation. >>_d is incorrect because there is no number >>? is incorrect because there is a letter d. >>The system will not allow the file to be uploaded with just the letter d. >>The file has been uploaded with _d because there is some evidence that the >>number was there but got taken out. A comment has also be added to clarify >>the situation. >>Regards >> >>Brian Smart >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: [email protected] >>[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Allan Raymond >>Sent: 02 December 2008 18:02 >>To: [email protected] >>Subject: Re: Scan 1920D2-J-0379.jpg - problem with volume field >> >>Brian >> >>What's the basis for entering ?d. >> >>The definition of ? is that it is only used when it unambiguous that the >>source data is actually missing from a column. In this instance we have >>source data showing a letter d. >> >>Unless I'm misunderstanding the original question >> >>Uncertain Character Format _{0,1}d covers this situation? >> >>The WinBMD Help provides more information search under Wildcards or the >>Hints and Help For Beginners at: >>http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/beginhelp.shtml >> >>under Uncertain character format >> >>Allan Raymond >> >> >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Brian Smart" <[email protected]> >>To: <[email protected]> >>Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 8:29 AM >>Subject: RE: Scan 1920D2-J-0379.jpg - problem with volume field >> >> >>Hello John, >>The correct entry is: ?d. >>Regards >> >>Brian Smart >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: [email protected] >>[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of John Crew >>Sent: 01 December 2008 15:47 >>To: [email protected] >>Subject: Scan 1920D2-J-0379.jpg - problem with volume field >> >>Hello, >> >>I have a problem with the following record in scan 1920D2-J-0379.jpg: >> >>JELF,Reginald,0,Kings N.,d,66 (note missing number in volume field) >> >>Following the response to a similar problem on this list (actually, a >>missing volume letter), I transcribed the volume as "_d" and >>successfully uploaded to FreeBMD. In order to adhere to TWYS, within the >>file management section, I attempted to edit out the underscore. >>However, the editor will not save the file because the volume field does >>not contain a number. >> >>The Uncertain Character Format doesn't seem to cover this situation. >>Perhaps I should enter "*d" followed by a #COMMENT. >> >>Can anyone please advise me as to how I should deal with this record. >> >>Many thanks, >> >>John. >> >> >> >>FreeBMD-Admins mailing list - archive >>http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/freebmd-admins >>FreeBMD http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ >> >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>the >>quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >>FreeBMD-Admins mailing list - archive >>http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/freebmd-admins >>FreeBMD http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ >> >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>the >>quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >>FreeBMD-Admins mailing list - archive >>http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/freebmd-admins >>FreeBMD http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ >> >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>the >>quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >>FreeBMD-Admins mailing list - archive >>http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/freebmd-admins >>FreeBMD http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ >> >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FREEBMD-ADMINS- >>[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the >>subject and the body of the message >> >>No virus found in this incoming message. >>Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com >>Version: 8.0.200 / Virus Database: 270.9.13/1825 - Release Date: 12/2/2008 >>8:44 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. 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Thank you Bill. Both '_{0,1}d' and '_d' have been suggested by FreeBMD 'officials'. However, neither seems totally correct (to me at least). I have settled on '_d' followed by a #COMMENT and will leave it that way unless my syndicate coordinator asks me to change it. John. Bill Hounslow wrote: > You could use _{0,1} to show that there may be 0 or 1 missing characters, > but even that's not strictly accurate, as there could theoretically be more > than 1 missing character. > > > Bill Hounslow > > http://www.boincsynergy.com/images/stats/comb-2147.jpg > > >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] [mailto:freebmd-admins- >>> [email protected]] On Behalf Of Brian Smart >>> Sent: 02 December 2008 18:24 >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: RE: Scan 1920D2-J-0379.jpg - problem with volume field >>> >>> Hello Allan, >>> I made a mistake! The problem is that the number is missing not >>> unreadable. >>> There is no option that is totally correct to deal with the situation. >>> _d is incorrect because there is no number >>> ? is incorrect because there is a letter d. >>> The system will not allow the file to be uploaded with just the letter d. >>> The file has been uploaded with _d because there is some evidence that the >>> number was there but got taken out. A comment has also be added to clarify >>> the situation. >>> Regards >>> >>> Brian Smart >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] >>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Allan Raymond >>> Sent: 02 December 2008 18:02 >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: Scan 1920D2-J-0379.jpg - problem with volume field >>> >>> Brian >>> >>> What's the basis for entering ?d. >>> >>> The definition of ? is that it is only used when it unambiguous that the >>> source data is actually missing from a column. In this instance we have >>> source data showing a letter d. >>> >>> Unless I'm misunderstanding the original question >>> >>> Uncertain Character Format _{0,1}d covers this situation? >>> >>> The WinBMD Help provides more information search under Wildcards or the >>> Hints and Help For Beginners at: >>> http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/beginhelp.shtml >>> >>> under Uncertain character format >>> >>> Allan Raymond >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Brian Smart" <[email protected]> >>> To: <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 8:29 AM >>> Subject: RE: Scan 1920D2-J-0379.jpg - problem with volume field >>> >>> >>> Hello John, >>> The correct entry is: ?d. >>> Regards >>> >>> Brian Smart >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] >>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of John Crew >>> Sent: 01 December 2008 15:47 >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Scan 1920D2-J-0379.jpg - problem with volume field >>> >>> Hello, >>> >>> I have a problem with the following record in scan 1920D2-J-0379.jpg: >>> >>> JELF,Reginald,0,Kings N.,d,66 (note missing number in volume field) >>> >>> Following the response to a similar problem on this list (actually, a >>> missing volume letter), I transcribed the volume as "_d" and >>> successfully uploaded to FreeBMD. 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You could use _{0,1} to show that there may be 0 or 1 missing characters, but even that's not strictly accurate, as there could theoretically be more than 1 missing character. Bill Hounslow http://www.boincsynergy.com/images/stats/comb-2147.jpg >>-----Original Message----- >>From: [email protected] [mailto:freebmd-admins- >>[email protected]] On Behalf Of Brian Smart >>Sent: 02 December 2008 18:24 >>To: [email protected] >>Subject: RE: Scan 1920D2-J-0379.jpg - problem with volume field >> >>Hello Allan, >>I made a mistake! The problem is that the number is missing not >>unreadable. >>There is no option that is totally correct to deal with the situation. >>_d is incorrect because there is no number >>? is incorrect because there is a letter d. >>The system will not allow the file to be uploaded with just the letter d. >>The file has been uploaded with _d because there is some evidence that the >>number was there but got taken out. A comment has also be added to clarify >>the situation. >>Regards >> >>Brian Smart >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: [email protected] >>[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Allan Raymond >>Sent: 02 December 2008 18:02 >>To: [email protected] >>Subject: Re: Scan 1920D2-J-0379.jpg - problem with volume field >> >>Brian >> >>What's the basis for entering ?d. >> >>The definition of ? is that it is only used when it unambiguous that the >>source data is actually missing from a column. In this instance we have >>source data showing a letter d. >> >>Unless I'm misunderstanding the original question >> >>Uncertain Character Format _{0,1}d covers this situation? >> >>The WinBMD Help provides more information search under Wildcards or the >>Hints and Help For Beginners at: >>http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/beginhelp.shtml >> >>under Uncertain character format >> >>Allan Raymond >> >> >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Brian Smart" <[email protected]> >>To: <[email protected]> >>Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 8:29 AM >>Subject: RE: Scan 1920D2-J-0379.jpg - problem with volume field >> >> >>Hello John, >>The correct entry is: ?d. >>Regards >> >>Brian Smart >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: [email protected] >>[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of John Crew >>Sent: 01 December 2008 15:47 >>To: [email protected] >>Subject: Scan 1920D2-J-0379.jpg - problem with volume field >> >>Hello, >> >>I have a problem with the following record in scan 1920D2-J-0379.jpg: >> >>JELF,Reginald,0,Kings N.,d,66 (note missing number in volume field) >> >>Following the response to a similar problem on this list (actually, a >>missing volume letter), I transcribed the volume as "_d" and >>successfully uploaded to FreeBMD. In order to adhere to TWYS, within the >>file management section, I attempted to edit out the underscore. >>However, the editor will not save the file because the volume field does >>not contain a number. >> >>The Uncertain Character Format doesn't seem to cover this situation. >>Perhaps I should enter "*d" followed by a #COMMENT. >> >>Can anyone please advise me as to how I should deal with this record. >> >>Many thanks, >> >>John. >> >> >> >>FreeBMD-Admins mailing list - archive >>http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/freebmd-admins >>FreeBMD http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ >> >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>the >>quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >>FreeBMD-Admins mailing list - archive >>http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/freebmd-admins >>FreeBMD http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ >> >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>the >>quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >>FreeBMD-Admins mailing list - archive >>http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/freebmd-admins >>FreeBMD http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ >> >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>the >>quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >>FreeBMD-Admins mailing list - archive >>http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/freebmd-admins >>FreeBMD http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ >> >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FREEBMD-ADMINS- >>[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the >>subject and the body of the message >> >>No virus found in this incoming message. >>Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com >>Version: 8.0.200 / Virus Database: 270.9.13/1825 - Release Date: 12/2/2008 >>8:44 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.200 / Virus Database: 270.9.13/1825 - Release Date: 12/2/2008 8:44 PM

If a field is missing I believe one should enter ? So I would enter the district as ?,d. An underscore indicates an unreadable character and * indicates an unknown number of unreadable characters. Since the entry is non existent I believe ? is the correct entry for the expected but missing volume number. Am interested to hear if others disagree, for my own knowledge. Regards Shelley> From: [email protected]> Subject: FREEBMD-ADMINS Digest, Vol 3, Issue 240> To: [email protected]> Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 01:01:01 -0700> > > > Mail for the mailing list should be send to> [email protected]> > The website for the mailing list is> http://FreeBMD.rootsweb.com/> It contains all the information about the project and is current status.> Archives http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/freebmd-admins> > > Today's Topics:> > 1. Scan 1920D2-J-0379.jpg - problem with volume field (John Crew)> > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------> > Message: 1> Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 15:46:54 +0000> From: John Crew <[email protected]>> Subject: Scan 1920D2-J-0379.jpg - problem with volume field> To: [email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed> > Hello,> > I have a problem with the following record in scan 1920D2-J-0379.jpg:> > JELF,Reginald,0,Kings N.,d,66 (note missing number in volume field)> > Following the response to a similar problem on this list (actually, a > missing volume letter), I transcribed the volume as "_d" and > successfully uploaded to FreeBMD. In order to adhere to TWYS, within the > file management section, I attempted to edit out the underscore. > However, the editor will not save the file because the volume field does > not contain a number.> > The Uncertain Character Format doesn't seem to cover this situation. > Perhaps I should enter "*d" followed by a #COMMENT.> > Can anyone please advise me as to how I should deal with this record.> > Many thanks,> > John.> > > > > > ------------------------------> > To contact the FREEBMD-ADMINS list administrator, send an email to> [email protected]> > To post a message to the FREEBMD-ADMINS mailing list, send an email to [email protected]> > __________________________________________________________> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected]> with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the> email with no additional text.> > > End of FREEBMD-ADMINS Digest, Vol 3, Issue 240> ********************************************** _________________________________________________________________ Net yourself a bargain. Find great deals on eBay. http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Frover%2Eebay%2Ecom%2Frover%2F1%2F705%2D10129%2D5668%2D323%2F4%3Fid%3D10&_t=763807330&_r=hotmailTAGLINES&_m=EXT

Hello Allan, I made a mistake! The problem is that the number is missing not unreadable. There is no option that is totally correct to deal with the situation. _d is incorrect because there is no number ? is incorrect because there is a letter d. The system will not allow the file to be uploaded with just the letter d. The file has been uploaded with _d because there is some evidence that the number was there but got taken out. A comment has also be added to clarify the situation. Regards Brian Smart -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Allan Raymond Sent: 02 December 2008 18:02 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Scan 1920D2-J-0379.jpg - problem with volume field Brian What's the basis for entering ?d. The definition of ? is that it is only used when it unambiguous that the source data is actually missing from a column. In this instance we have source data showing a letter d. Unless I'm misunderstanding the original question Uncertain Character Format _{0,1}d covers this situation? The WinBMD Help provides more information search under Wildcards or the Hints and Help For Beginners at: http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/beginhelp.shtml under Uncertain character format Allan Raymond ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Smart" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 8:29 AM Subject: RE: Scan 1920D2-J-0379.jpg - problem with volume field Hello John, The correct entry is: ?d. Regards Brian Smart -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of John Crew Sent: 01 December 2008 15:47 To: [email protected] Subject: Scan 1920D2-J-0379.jpg - problem with volume field Hello, I have a problem with the following record in scan 1920D2-J-0379.jpg: JELF,Reginald,0,Kings N.,d,66 (note missing number in volume field) Following the response to a similar problem on this list (actually, a missing volume letter), I transcribed the volume as "_d" and successfully uploaded to FreeBMD. In order to adhere to TWYS, within the file management section, I attempted to edit out the underscore. However, the editor will not save the file because the volume field does not contain a number. The Uncertain Character Format doesn't seem to cover this situation. Perhaps I should enter "*d" followed by a #COMMENT. Can anyone please advise me as to how I should deal with this record. Many thanks, John. FreeBMD-Admins mailing list - archive http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/freebmd-admins FreeBMD http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message FreeBMD-Admins mailing list - archive http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/freebmd-admins FreeBMD http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message FreeBMD-Admins mailing list - archive http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/freebmd-admins FreeBMD http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Brian What's the basis for entering ?d. The definition of ? is that it is only used when it unambiguous that the source data is actually missing from a column. In this instance we have source data showing a letter d. Unless I'm misunderstanding the original question Uncertain Character Format _{0,1}d covers this situation? The WinBMD Help provides more information search under Wildcards or the Hints and Help For Beginners at: http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/beginhelp.shtml under Uncertain character format Allan Raymond ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Smart" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 8:29 AM Subject: RE: Scan 1920D2-J-0379.jpg - problem with volume field Hello John, The correct entry is: ?d. Regards Brian Smart -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of John Crew Sent: 01 December 2008 15:47 To: [email protected] Subject: Scan 1920D2-J-0379.jpg - problem with volume field Hello, I have a problem with the following record in scan 1920D2-J-0379.jpg: JELF,Reginald,0,Kings N.,d,66 (note missing number in volume field) Following the response to a similar problem on this list (actually, a missing volume letter), I transcribed the volume as "_d" and successfully uploaded to FreeBMD. In order to adhere to TWYS, within the file management section, I attempted to edit out the underscore. However, the editor will not save the file because the volume field does not contain a number. The Uncertain Character Format doesn't seem to cover this situation. Perhaps I should enter "*d" followed by a #COMMENT. Can anyone please advise me as to how I should deal with this record. Many thanks, John. FreeBMD-Admins mailing list - archive http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/freebmd-admins FreeBMD http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message FreeBMD-Admins mailing list - archive http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/freebmd-admins FreeBMD http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The FreeBMD overriding principle of Type What You See means that you should only accept the volume number that comes up from the picklist when you type in the district name if it agrees with what is showing on the scan image of the index page.If it does not agree, amend your transcription to show what is actually on the page. King's Norton district was actually in volume 6c up to December quarter 1912, then in 6d from March quarter 1913. Please look carefully, as John did, when entering districts and volumes. You will know that Allan Raymond has recently pointed out problems with Smethwick district from December quarter 1932, as it was really in volume 6b, but WinBMD has been offering 6n in the picklist. Jeff assistant list admin, FreeBMD-admins mailing list ----- Original Message ----- From: "Diana E A Stewart" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 10:08 AM Subject: RE: Scan 1920D2-J-0379.jpg - problem with volume field > Hi there > The volume No should come up when you type Kings.N the volume No is 6d. > Hope this answers your queery > . > Liz > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of John Crew > Sent: 01 December 2008 15:47 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Scan 1920D2-J-0379.jpg - problem with volume field > > Hello, > > I have a problem with the following record in scan 1920D2-J-0379.jpg: > > JELF,Reginald,0,Kings N.,d,66 (note missing number in volume field) > > Following the response to a similar problem on this list (actually, a > missing volume letter), I transcribed the volume as "_d" and > successfully uploaded to FreeBMD. In order to adhere to TWYS, within the > file management section, I attempted to edit out the underscore. > However, the editor will not save the file because the volume field does > not contain a number. > > The Uncertain Character Format doesn't seem to cover this situation. > Perhaps I should enter "*d" followed by a #COMMENT. > > Can anyone please advise me as to how I should deal with this record. > > Many thanks, > > John.

Hello, Thank you to everyone for your replies, both on and of list. I will use "_d" followed by a #COMMENT line. John. Brian Smart wrote: > Hello Liz, > This suggests that you use the pick list rather than type what is there. This will cause all sorts of problems. You should contact your syndicate boss. > Regards > > Brian Smart > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Diana E A Stewart > Sent: 02 December 2008 10:09 > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: Scan 1920D2-J-0379.jpg - problem with volume field > > Hi there > �The volume No should come up when you type Kings.N the volume No is 6d. > Hope this answers your queery > . > Liz > --- On Tue, 2/12/08, Brian Smart <[email protected]> wrote: > > From: Brian Smart <[email protected]> > Subject: RE: Scan 1920D2-J-0379.jpg - problem with volume field > To: [email protected] > Date: Tuesday, 2 December, 2008, 8:29 AM > > Hello John, > The correct entry is: ?d. > Regards > > Brian Smart > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of John Crew > Sent: 01 December 2008 15:47 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Scan 1920D2-J-0379.jpg - problem with volume field > > Hello, > > I have a problem with the following record in scan 1920D2-J-0379.jpg: > > JELF,Reginald,0,Kings N.,d,66 (note missing number in volume field) > > Following the response to a similar problem on this list (actually, a > missing volume letter), I transcribed the volume as "_d" and > successfully uploaded to FreeBMD. In order to adhere to TWYS, within the > file management section, I attempted to edit out the underscore. > However, the editor will not save the file because the volume field does > not contain a number. > > The Uncertain Character Format doesn't seem to cover this situation. > Perhaps I should enter "*d" followed by a #COMMENT. > > Can anyone please advise me as to how I should deal with this record. > > Many thanks, > > John. > > > > FreeBMD-Admins mailing list - archive > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/freebmd-admins > FreeBMD http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > FreeBMD-Admins mailing list - archive > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/freebmd-admins > FreeBMD http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > FreeBMD-Admins mailing list - archive http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/freebmd-admins > FreeBMD http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > FreeBMD-Admins mailing list - archive http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/freebmd-admins > FreeBMD http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Liz, This suggests that you use the pick list rather than type what is there. This will cause all sorts of problems. You should contact your syndicate boss. Regards Brian Smart -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Diana E A Stewart Sent: 02 December 2008 10:09 To: [email protected] Subject: RE: Scan 1920D2-J-0379.jpg - problem with volume field Hi there �The volume No should come up when you type Kings.N the volume No is 6d. Hope this answers your queery . Liz --- On Tue, 2/12/08, Brian Smart <[email protected]> wrote: From: Brian Smart <[email protected]> Subject: RE: Scan 1920D2-J-0379.jpg - problem with volume field To: [email protected] Date: Tuesday, 2 December, 2008, 8:29 AM Hello John, The correct entry is: ?d. Regards Brian Smart -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of John Crew Sent: 01 December 2008 15:47 To: [email protected] Subject: Scan 1920D2-J-0379.jpg - problem with volume field Hello, I have a problem with the following record in scan 1920D2-J-0379.jpg: JELF,Reginald,0,Kings N.,d,66 (note missing number in volume field) Following the response to a similar problem on this list (actually, a missing volume letter), I transcribed the volume as "_d" and successfully uploaded to FreeBMD. In order to adhere to TWYS, within the file management section, I attempted to edit out the underscore. However, the editor will not save the file because the volume field does not contain a number. The Uncertain Character Format doesn't seem to cover this situation. Perhaps I should enter "*d" followed by a #COMMENT. Can anyone please advise me as to how I should deal with this record. Many thanks, John. FreeBMD-Admins mailing list - archive http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/freebmd-admins FreeBMD http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message FreeBMD-Admins mailing list - archive http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/freebmd-admins FreeBMD http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message FreeBMD-Admins mailing list - archive http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/freebmd-admins FreeBMD http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I think that the way you have done it, _d, is the best way to do it. I would suggest that in this circumstance it is not necessary to remove the _ in File management. ?d is clearly wrong as ? is only used when a complete field is missing, and there is a d in this one. *d would be misleading as it implies more than one unreadable character, which seems unlikely. The partial obscuring of the top of the 6 in the line below implies that there was something - presumably the 1920 equivalent of tippex - used to obscure a mistake in typing, but the correction was never completed. Therefore we can assume that there is a mystery number there, obscured by a white material - and _ to represent that mystery number is fair enough. If you take the image, look at it as negative, add reduce the gamma correction you can just see what then becomes a darker patch where the correction material was applied. I am sending separately a cropped image to John to show what I mean. If anyone else wants a copy, let me know. You can even see fragments of the original number or letter under the correction fluid. Jeff assistant list admin, FreeBMD-admins mailing list ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Crew" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 3:46 PM Subject: Scan 1920D2-J-0379.jpg - problem with volume field > Hello, > > I have a problem with the following record in scan 1920D2-J-0379.jpg: > > JELF,Reginald,0,Kings N.,d,66 (note missing number in volume field) > > Following the response to a similar problem on this list (actually, a > missing volume letter), I transcribed the volume as "_d" and > successfully uploaded to FreeBMD. In order to adhere to TWYS, within the > file management section, I attempted to edit out the underscore. > However, the editor will not save the file because the volume field does > not contain a number. > > The Uncertain Character Format doesn't seem to cover this situation. > Perhaps I should enter "*d" followed by a #COMMENT. > > Can anyone please advise me as to how I should deal with this record. > > Many thanks, > > John. > > > > FreeBMD-Admins mailing list - archive > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/freebmd-admins > FreeBMD http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi there  The volume No should come up when you type Kings.N the volume No is 6d. Hope this answers your queery . Liz --- On Tue, 2/12/08, Brian Smart <[email protected]> wrote: From: Brian Smart <[email protected]> Subject: RE: Scan 1920D2-J-0379.jpg - problem with volume field To: [email protected] Date: Tuesday, 2 December, 2008, 8:29 AM Hello John, The correct entry is: ?d. Regards Brian Smart -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of John Crew Sent: 01 December 2008 15:47 To: [email protected] Subject: Scan 1920D2-J-0379.jpg - problem with volume field Hello, I have a problem with the following record in scan 1920D2-J-0379.jpg: JELF,Reginald,0,Kings N.,d,66 (note missing number in volume field) Following the response to a similar problem on this list (actually, a missing volume letter), I transcribed the volume as "_d" and successfully uploaded to FreeBMD. In order to adhere to TWYS, within the file management section, I attempted to edit out the underscore. However, the editor will not save the file because the volume field does not contain a number. The Uncertain Character Format doesn't seem to cover this situation. Perhaps I should enter "*d" followed by a #COMMENT. Can anyone please advise me as to how I should deal with this record. Many thanks, John. FreeBMD-Admins mailing list - archive http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/freebmd-admins FreeBMD http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message FreeBMD-Admins mailing list - archive http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/freebmd-admins FreeBMD http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Brian, According to the Uncertain Character Format, "?" is used when there is nothing in the column. In this case, the column contains "d". Additionally, neither WinBMD or the FreeBMD file management editor accept "?d". Kind regards, John. Brian Smart wrote: > Hello John, > The correct entry is: ?d. > Regards > > Brian Smart > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of John Crew > Sent: 01 December 2008 15:47 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Scan 1920D2-J-0379.jpg - problem with volume field > > Hello, > > I have a problem with the following record in scan 1920D2-J-0379.jpg: > > JELF,Reginald,0,Kings N.,d,66 (note missing number in volume field) > > Following the response to a similar problem on this list (actually, a > missing volume letter), I transcribed the volume as "_d" and > successfully uploaded to FreeBMD. In order to adhere to TWYS, within the > file management section, I attempted to edit out the underscore. > However, the editor will not save the file because the volume field does > not contain a number. > > The Uncertain Character Format doesn't seem to cover this situation. > Perhaps I should enter "*d" followed by a #COMMENT. > > Can anyone please advise me as to how I should deal with this record. > > Many thanks, > > John. > > > > FreeBMD-Admins mailing list - archive > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/freebmd-admins > FreeBMD http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > FreeBMD-Admins mailing list - archive http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/freebmd-admins > FreeBMD http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello John, The correct entry is: ?d. Regards Brian Smart -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of John Crew Sent: 01 December 2008 15:47 To: [email protected] Subject: Scan 1920D2-J-0379.jpg - problem with volume field Hello, I have a problem with the following record in scan 1920D2-J-0379.jpg: JELF,Reginald,0,Kings N.,d,66 (note missing number in volume field) Following the response to a similar problem on this list (actually, a missing volume letter), I transcribed the volume as "_d" and successfully uploaded to FreeBMD. In order to adhere to TWYS, within the file management section, I attempted to edit out the underscore. However, the editor will not save the file because the volume field does not contain a number. The Uncertain Character Format doesn't seem to cover this situation. Perhaps I should enter "*d" followed by a #COMMENT. Can anyone please advise me as to how I should deal with this record. Many thanks, John. FreeBMD-Admins mailing list - archive http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/freebmd-admins FreeBMD http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello, I have a problem with the following record in scan 1920D2-J-0379.jpg: JELF,Reginald,0,Kings N.,d,66 (note missing number in volume field) Following the response to a similar problem on this list (actually, a missing volume letter), I transcribed the volume as "_d" and successfully uploaded to FreeBMD. In order to adhere to TWYS, within the file management section, I attempted to edit out the underscore. However, the editor will not save the file because the volume field does not contain a number. The Uncertain Character Format doesn't seem to cover this situation. Perhaps I should enter "*d" followed by a #COMMENT. Can anyone please advise me as to how I should deal with this record. Many thanks, John.

An update: With the help of John Crew (many thanks) - it seems that it is an AOL problem. AOL seemed to have changed something with the encoding of text files. It seems to have nothing to do with the email format; HTML or plain text - it is the text file attachment that is being double spaced. It has nothing to do with WinBMD. As suggested, zipping the files worked. Any other AOL users having problems emailing text file attachments? With Outlook Express? Dave. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Rothery" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2008 1:11 PM Subject: WinBMD Files Double Spaced When Emailed > In the last month and a half or so the WinBMD output files (.SCA) that I > have been emailing to my Coordinator have been arriving double spaced - > that is an extra carriage return for each line. When re-opening the files > WinBMD complains about unknown line in file, four times, before opening > the file. Looking in Notepad finds each line double spaced. > > The files on my PC are OK. The copy of the email that I sent is OK. A > couple of the files uploaded to FreeBMD OK. > > I am on AOL and my Coordinator is on Blueyonder. This only started about a > month and a half ago, it's been fine for many years before that. > > Any ideas? > > Dave. > FreeBMD-Admins mailing list - archive > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/freebmd-admins > FreeBMD http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thankyou Allan & Jeff for your very speedy replies & offers of assistance I apologize for double email, but thought I'd used wrong address, so corrected myself along the way. Feel better now. cheers Wendy M..

Goodmorning all, query: ..if we are doublekeying files here to help prevent errors, why are some of us getting unreadable scans ? to 'type what we see' would mean uploading something that looks like a secret code in some instances. I've just had 2 such scans & when I looked on FreeBMD, there were all the items in good order & readable. I clicked on the "original scan" & behold I could read it! Where is the sense in uploading what I had done,only half of which was of use to someone searching for Family? Is it possible for all Transcribers to get readable scans? Wendy M.

Goodmorning all, query: if we are doublekeying files here to help prevent errors, why are some of us getting unredable scans ? to type what we see would mean uploading something that looks like a secret code in some instances. I just had 2 such scans & when I looked on FreeBMD,there were all the items in good order & readable. I clicked on the "original scan" & behold I coould read it! Where is the sense in uploading what I had done,only half of which was of use to someone searching for Family? Is it possible for all Transcribers to get readable scans? Wendy M.

Hello Jeff, If I am reading your email correctly, the file you referred to was sent as part of the email not as an attachment. The original problem related to attachments. Regards Brian Smart -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jeff Coleman Sent: 25 November 2008 22:24 To: [email protected] Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: WinBMD Files Double Spaced When Emailed I received a file today that had been pasted into an email. When copied to a text editor it appeared double spaced. I found that when I went to reply to the email that it had been sent in Rich Text (HTML). By changing the format of the 'reply' email to 'Plain Text' and then copying and pasting into the text editor, the double-spacing had disappeared and the file was in a format BMDVerify could cope with. Further experimentation revealed that if you take a double-spaced file and paste it into a blank email in 'Rich Text (HTML)' format, then change the format to 'Plain Text' you can get rid of the double-spacing. This is in Windows Mail, the Vista (downgrade) version of Outlook Express. May be worth trying if you get any more double-spaced files. Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Archer Barrie" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 12:13 PM Subject: RE: WinBMD Files Double Spaced When Emailed > Typically I have seen this happen when you screen scrape a file from > something like http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/show-file.pl. > > Some mail systems do play around with line end conventions (which are > different on Mac, Unix and Windows) so it is possible that AOL have > changed something, although one would have thought it would have > affected everyone. > > Alternatively, has your co-ordinator just moved to a Mac? > > If you and your coordinator have WinZIP available you could zip the file > before sending it and that should stop it happening. > > Barrie > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Dave Rothery [mailto:[email protected]] >> Sent: 23 November 2008 13:11 >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: WinBMD Files Double Spaced When Emailed >> >> In the last month and a half or so the WinBMD output files >> (.SCA) that I have been emailing to my Coordinator have been >> arriving double spaced - that is an extra carriage return for >> each line. When re-opening the files WinBMD complains about >> unknown line in file, four times, before opening the file. >> Looking in Notepad finds each line double spaced. >> >> The files on my PC are OK. The copy of the email that I sent >> is OK. A couple of the files uploaded to FreeBMD OK. >> >> I am on AOL and my Coordinator is on Blueyonder. This only >> started about a month and a half ago, it's been fine for many >> years before that. >> >> Any ideas? >> >> Dave. FreeBMD-Admins mailing list - archive http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/freebmd-admins FreeBMD http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message