Sue I'm sure your Coordinator will accept the entry with no #COMMENT or #THEORY. If you are unclear of the the final character of the entry on scan 1926M4-H-0436.jpg then Carapanagerti[s_] is acceptable. The search result will show the alternative names assuming the correct District/Vol No and Page Numbers have been transcribed for both entries in the Index. Allan Raymond ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sue Barnard" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 9:39 PM Subject: Alternative spelling of spouse surname I am currently transcribing 1926 Marriages and am working on December quarter, page 436. One of the entries on this page is for a marriage between Hughes and Carapanagertis. As the final character of Carapanagertis was slightly indistinct, I decided to cross-check it against the corresponding entry for the spouse - only to find that that entry (on page 139) shows the surname spelled Carapanageotis. Has anyone come across this particular problem before, and if so, what is the correct way of tackling it? Is it #COMMENT or #THEORY? TIA, Sue FreeBMD-Admins mailing list - archive http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/freebmd-admins FreeBMD http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

If you were to search births 1926 onwards for Carapa* you would discover yet further spellings. http://www.freebmd.org.uk/vol_faq.html#6af shows that #THEORY is appropriate if you have reason to believe that what is typed in the index may be wrong. "#THEORY indicates that what has been transcribed is what is in the index but there is reason to believe the index is wrong. It describes what it is believed should be in the index." So for the marriage of Ms HUGHES , you could follow with #THEORY spouse surname possibly Carapanageotis if you wished. Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sue Barnard" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 9:39 PM Subject: Alternative spelling of spouse surname >I am currently transcribing 1926 Marriages and am working on December >quarter, page 436. One of the entries on this page is for a marriage >between Hughes and Carapanagertis. > > As the final character of Carapanagertis was slightly indistinct, I > decided to cross-check it against the corresponding entry for the spouse - > only to find that that entry (on page 139) shows the surname spelled > Carapanageotis. > > Has anyone come across this particular problem before, and if so, what is > the correct way of tackling it? Is it #COMMENT or #THEORY? > > TIA, > Sue >

In support of this, the same individual also appears as handwritten entry at bottom of scan 1928B4-B-0042.jpg Banks-Fay Irvine Vickers Fulham 12 S75 Allan Raymond ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judy Manley" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 7:41 PM Subject: Re: Peculiar ref. in lieu of page number: Couldn't resist taking up the challenge. having looked at the page image your description was very clear. I don't understand all the notation but guessed that it referred to a September quarter late registration in 1975. This appears to be so as in that quarter two entries appear: FAY Irvine Vickers Fulham 12 0740 FAY Irvine Banks Vickers Fulham 12 0740 From: "Richard Oliver" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 7:24 PM Subject: Peculiar ref. in lieu of page number: Hello all: One of my trancribers, with 1½ years'experience and 27,000 records uploaded, has presented me with an oddity on page scan 1928B4-F-0309. The last record of the last column has had its page number (401) scratched through, and replaced with the item which I have been trying to reproduce here (but have been "not explicitly allowed" to by some person - at Rootswseb, I imagine..... Correspondence copied below). I read it as: Double Brackets, enlosing two lines, of which the first reads 2 (or 12) oblique stroke 5 (or S) '75; and then a second, lower line - still bracketed - showing 0173/S. This is not in line with any of the types of late registration records that appear on these pages, nor does it seem to be dealt with on the Transcribers' Knowledge Base. In other words, what does it mean? and how can it be transcribed in a useable form? A few words of wisdom, please, for a harrassed Syndicate leader. Richard Oliver Madrid, Spain [email protected] > The message's file extension was not explicitly allowed if you are using a > rich text editor(colors, different fonts ect...) you must turn it off> > I have no idea what your message means. Do you mean it was explicitly disallowed, or allowed (but not explicitly)? I shall send it again, minus the tiny illustration which I copied and pasted from the full page scan, and without which the query is just about meaningless. Let's see if anyone can be bothered to look it up. Richard Oliver Madrid, Spain [email protected] FreeBMD-Admins mailing list - archive http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/freebmd-admins FreeBMD http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.10.1/1868 - Release Date: 29/12/2008 10:48 FreeBMD-Admins mailing list - archive http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/freebmd-admins FreeBMD http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I am currently transcribing 1926 Marriages and am working on December quarter, page 436. One of the entries on this page is for a marriage between Hughes and Carapanagertis. As the final character of Carapanagertis was slightly indistinct, I decided to cross-check it against the corresponding entry for the spouse - only to find that that entry (on page 139) shows the surname spelled Carapanageotis. Has anyone come across this particular problem before, and if so, what is the correct way of tackling it? Is it #COMMENT or #THEORY? TIA, Sue

Hello all: One of my trancribers, with 1½ years'experience and 27,000 records uploaded, has presented me with an oddity on page scan 1928B4-F-0309. The last record of the last column has had its page number (401) scratched through, and replaced with the item which I have been trying to reproduce here (but have been "not explicitly allowed" to by some person - at Rootswseb, I imagine..... Correspondence copied below). I read it as: Double Brackets, enlosing two lines, of which the first reads 2 (or 12) oblique stroke 5 (or S) '75; and then a second, lower line - still bracketed - showing 0173/S. This is not in line with any of the types of late registration records that appear on these pages, nor does it seem to be dealt with on the Transcribers' Knowledge Base. In other words, what does it mean? and how can it be transcribed in a useable form? A few words of wisdom, please, for a harrassed Syndicate leader. Richard Oliver Madrid, Spain [email protected] > The message's file extension was not explicitly allowed if you are using a > rich text editor(colors, different fonts ect...) you must turn it off> > I have no idea what your message means. Do you mean it was explicitly disallowed, or allowed (but not explicitly)? I shall send it again, minus the tiny illustration which I copied and pasted from the full page scan, and without which the query is just about meaningless. Let's see if anyone can be bothered to look it up. Richard Oliver Madrid, Spain [email protected]

Couldn't resist taking up the challenge. having looked at the page image your description was very clear. I don't understand all the notation but guessed that it referred to a September quarter late registration in 1975. This appears to be so as in that quarter two entries appear: FAY Irvine Vickers Fulham 12 0740 FAY Irvine Banks Vickers Fulham 12 0740 From: "Richard Oliver" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 7:24 PM Subject: Peculiar ref. in lieu of page number: Hello all: One of my trancribers, with 1½ years'experience and 27,000 records uploaded, has presented me with an oddity on page scan 1928B4-F-0309. The last record of the last column has had its page number (401) scratched through, and replaced with the item which I have been trying to reproduce here (but have been "not explicitly allowed" to by some person - at Rootswseb, I imagine..... Correspondence copied below). I read it as: Double Brackets, enlosing two lines, of which the first reads 2 (or 12) oblique stroke 5 (or S) '75; and then a second, lower line - still bracketed - showing 0173/S. This is not in line with any of the types of late registration records that appear on these pages, nor does it seem to be dealt with on the Transcribers' Knowledge Base. In other words, what does it mean? and how can it be transcribed in a useable form? A few words of wisdom, please, for a harrassed Syndicate leader. Richard Oliver Madrid, Spain [email protected] > The message's file extension was not explicitly allowed if you are using a > rich text editor(colors, different fonts ect...) you must turn it off> > I have no idea what your message means. Do you mean it was explicitly disallowed, or allowed (but not explicitly)? I shall send it again, minus the tiny illustration which I copied and pasted from the full page scan, and without which the query is just about meaningless. Let's see if anyone can be bothered to look it up. Richard Oliver Madrid, Spain [email protected] FreeBMD-Admins mailing list - archive http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/freebmd-admins FreeBMD http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.10.1/1868 - Release Date: 29/12/2008 10:48

Juda 3431 Hi, I have sent this once before bur it seems to have dissapeared. I am having a bit of trouble with BMD verify and 1934 birth transcriptions, can some one tell me what is the correct or best combination when the box appears which say's "select type of scan" ? I have tried various combinations but failed to find the correct settings for "double page or single page" or "number of columns" the data is always shown in two groups, one on each side of the image, and sometimes very large, I know I can reduce its size but obviously the set up is not correct. >From David and June in Gosport

We are looking at ways of handling people who are in more than one syndicate. This will require a bit of coding, so won't happen overnight. 2008/12/29 Christopher M Richards <[email protected]> > I posted this message on the Discuss list on Dec 22nd. It is there in > the archive but doesn't seem to have been sent out. > > > > > "I think that the FreeBMD database is now set up so that it doesn't > record an entry as having been double keyed if both transcribers are > from the same syndicate. > > There is a problem with this when a transcriber has worked for more than > one syndicate. > > For instance 1878 births were transcribed first by Scan2 and then by the > Ian Brooke syndicate. > > At least one transcriber transcribed for Ian Brooke before moving to > Scan2: so when that transcriber did the first transcription for Scan2, > the software thinks that she was working for Ian Brooke, and the entry > is not put in bold type. > > Is there an automatic way of resolving this, or would it be easier to > ask coordinators to indicate where this has happened?" > > > Christopher Richards > > FreeBMD-Admins mailing list - archive > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/freebmd-admins > FreeBMD http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Dave Mayall

I posted this message on the Discuss list on Dec 22nd. It is there in the archive but doesn't seem to have been sent out. "I think that the FreeBMD database is now set up so that it doesn't record an entry as having been double keyed if both transcribers are from the same syndicate. There is a problem with this when a transcriber has worked for more than one syndicate. For instance 1878 births were transcribed first by Scan2 and then by the Ian Brooke syndicate. At least one transcriber transcribed for Ian Brooke before moving to Scan2: so when that transcriber did the first transcription for Scan2, the software thinks that she was working for Ian Brooke, and the entry is not put in bold type. Is there an automatic way of resolving this, or would it be easier to ask coordinators to indicate where this has happened?" Christopher Richards

This error has now been corrected. Barrie > -----Original Message----- > From: Shirley Saunders [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: 23 December 2008 05:11 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Umlaut on mac? > > Hi, > I'm transcribing 1930M4-M-0300. One of the entries is Mercer,Anne > E.,Schonberg,Lancaster,8e,1396 - where Schonberg has an umlaut over > the o. I've entered the umlaut in MacBMD but when I upload it to > File Management on FreeBMD it gives an error message 'Unexpected > characters...' and the name is Schsnberg - where the 's' in the > middle has what looks like a crescent moon over it (sorry don't know > the name). Can someone give me some help on how to get the umlaut > over to FreeBMD database? Or could someone with mac knowledge > confirm which key combination I should use to get the umlaut? (it > certainly looks like one...) > Thanks > Shirley > Scan2 scribble > >

Wishing Everyone involved a Blessed Christmas and Yule! I have found many family members, and this sight has been very useful! Thank you for all your endeavors. Blessings, Diana Gately

It's the same problem discussed the other day with post 1930 transcriptions - a new version of BMDVerify is ready that fixes the issue, but there have been some technical issues that held up the release. Hope to have it available in the next two weeks. David > One of my experienced transcribers sent the following question to me, > which appears to be of general concern on the message boards at present. I have not seen any answers to it though: > > "I have just completed the first file of my 1933 2Q marriage assignment. > When using BMDVerify after transcription, and having made a correction, > every single time the file was reloaded BMDVerify brought up the message: > > "Is this a Death index or... > ...a Birth index with mother's surname or... > ...a Marriage index with wife's surname > YES NO > > As I had about 20 corrections to make, due mostly to supposed 5s in > transcription turning out to be 3s in verification, this became extremely > annoying. I had already told WinBMD it was one of these when I set up the > page header, and at the start of verification. Why does BMDVerify need to > know each time a correction is reloaded? And is there any way to turn it > off? I never had this message when doing 1924 marriages - what is so > different about 1933 marriages that this message keeps appearing, and the > columns don't line up during verification, which make it confusing and > more > difficult to see mistakes? I am using BMDVerify version 3.0.3/311006." > > Please can someone advise whether a new version of BMDVerify is being > made, > or if there is a solution to these problems? > > Lisa Dominey > ID4 Syndicate Coordinator > > > > >

Yes, the unique identifier is a hash of the record, and remains valid through updates (except in cases where the record is updated or corrected). I'm concerned if it doesn't work consistently, can you give an example? We will look at adding it to the download file. 2008/12/24 Katie Platt <[email protected]> > > > Love the inclusion of the citation URL on the info page - fully sick (in > old speak meaning cool) - however it does not seem to work consistently. Is > the GUID or unique identifier valid forever? Could this be added to the > download excel file? > > Katie > _________________________________________________________________ > Get a bird's eye view of the world with Multimap > http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/115454059/direct/01/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Dave Mayall

There's a message on the "Help" Screen of the RootsWeb mailing list which states: "Some mailing lists are currently experiencing significant delays in the posting and distribution of messages. We are are working to resolve this issue. There may be some limited interruption of service during this time. We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause." I haven't received a copy of your posting to the Discuss list so the problem appears to be at the RootsWeb end rather than your ISP. Allan Raymond ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christopher M Richards" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 2:54 PM Subject: Not getting copies of postings to the Discuss list At 20.37 GMT on the 22nd December 2008 I sent a posting to the Free-BMD discuss list. This posting is there in the archive but the copy which usually comes to me has not appeared among my email. Has something got set up wrongly? Is virginmedia blocking rootsweb.com? No, I don't have a spam folder! Christopher Richards FreeBMD-Admins mailing list - archive http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/freebmd-admins FreeBMD http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Please would you send the file to [email protected] Barrie > -----Original Message----- > From: Shirley Saunders [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: 23 December 2008 05:11 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Umlaut on mac? > > Hi, > I'm transcribing 1930M4-M-0300. One of the entries is Mercer,Anne > E.,Schonberg,Lancaster,8e,1396 - where Schonberg has an umlaut over > the o. I've entered the umlaut in MacBMD but when I upload it to > File Management on FreeBMD it gives an error message 'Unexpected > characters...' and the name is Schsnberg - where the 's' in the > middle has what looks like a crescent moon over it (sorry don't know > the name). Can someone give me some help on how to get the umlaut > over to FreeBMD database? Or could someone with mac knowledge > confirm which key combination I should use to get the umlaut? (it > certainly looks like one...) > Thanks > Shirley > Scan2 scribble > >

At 20.37 GMT on the 22nd December 2008 I sent a posting to the Free-BMD discuss list. This posting is there in the archive but the copy which usually comes to me has not appeared among my email. Has something got set up wrongly? Is virginmedia blocking rootsweb.com? No, I don't have a spam folder! Christopher Richards

We are currently bringing our second image server back on-line. This should improve image download response times. However, transcribers should be aware that over the course of the next couple of hours, there may be occasional loss of access to images. This will correct itself shortly, and you need not report it. -- Dave Mayall

One of my experienced transcribers sent the following question to me, which appears to be of general concern on the message boards at present. I have not seen any answers to it though: "I have just completed the first file of my 1933 2Q marriage assignment. When using BMDVerify after transcription, and having made a correction, every single time the file was reloaded BMDVerify brought up the message: "Is this a Death index or... ...a Birth index with mother's surname or... ...a Marriage index with wife's surname YES NO As I had about 20 corrections to make, due mostly to supposed 5s in transcription turning out to be 3s in verification, this became extremely annoying. I had already told WinBMD it was one of these when I set up the page header, and at the start of verification. Why does BMDVerify need to know each time a correction is reloaded? And is there any way to turn it off? I never had this message when doing 1924 marriages - what is so different about 1933 marriages that this message keeps appearing, and the columns don't line up during verification, which make it confusing and more difficult to see mistakes? I am using BMDVerify version 3.0.3/311006." Please can someone advise whether a new version of BMDVerify is being made, or if there is a solution to these problems? Lisa Dominey ID4 Syndicate Coordinator

Hi, I'm transcribing 1930M4-M-0300. One of the entries is Mercer,Anne E.,Schonberg,Lancaster,8e,1396 - where Schonberg has an umlaut over the o. I've entered the umlaut in MacBMD but when I upload it to File Management on FreeBMD it gives an error message 'Unexpected characters...' and the name is Schsnberg - where the 's' in the middle has what looks like a crescent moon over it (sorry don't know the name). Can someone give me some help on how to get the umlaut over to FreeBMD database? Or could someone with mac knowledge confirm which key combination I should use to get the umlaut? (it certainly looks like one...) Thanks Shirley Scan2 scribble

I solved the problem by moving the transcription file and image to a new directory when I have uploaded it Regards Peter Goggin -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mike Thomas Sent: Sunday, 21 December 2008 10:16 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: BMDVerify and 1931 Marriages Hello David, Thanks for all the work you've put in on BMDVerify - I think it's a wonderful program !! I'm writing because I've just got one tiny suggestion that you may like to incorporate in a new version. My suggestion is that on the the first screen you see when you start BMDVerify you reverse the order of the top two questions - i.e. I'm suggesting that the user is first asked to "Step 1 - specify your transcription file", and is then asked "Step 2 - specify the scanned image file". The reasoning behind this is that we transcribers are given a batch of files to transcribe - in my case currently five. I download my five images into my WinBMD working folder (I've previously moved the last set of images and transcription files into a "Done" folder). Then I transcribe the first image and when I've finished transcribing it I run BMDVerify. I'm first asked to specify the image file and presented with a directory with five images in. It's easy enough to remember which one I want when it's the first one - but further into the batch I often forget where I've got to and select the wrong image file. If I could select the transcription file first then I would always get the right one - it will always be the highest numbered one. I hope that makes sense and is helpful - please don't hesitate to ask if I haven't explained clearly. I'm sure there are lots of hidden consequences to this suggestion that I haven't thought of - life always seems to be like that ! Cheers, Mike 2008/12/21 David Lang <[email protected]> > Bob > It's a known problem and I have a new version ready that will fix it but > there's been a hitch getting it released. I hope to have it ready in the > next two weeks. Apologies for the delay. > David Lang > > > I've recently started transcribing 1931 marriages. BMDVerify appears not > > to > > know the format of these pages and consequently does not align the > columns > > consistently. Is there anything I can do to improve on this, such as > > modify > > a configuration file or install a new version? My current version is > > 3.0.0/290605. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Bob Bowman > > > > > > > > > FreeBMD-Admins mailing list - archive > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/freebmd-admins > FreeBMD http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > FreeBMD-Admins mailing list - archive http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/freebmd-admins FreeBMD http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.19/1856 - Release Date: 18/12/2008 8:06 PM