I've noticed that too. I've found that in general it's easier to add the multiple initial "name" to the picklist, simply to prevent being alerted again if the same combination of initials crops up on a future page. But you're quite right, Keith - WinBMD does not save the final initial. Is there any way this could be corrected? Sue ----- Original Message ----- From: "Keith Partridge" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 5:02 PM Subject: RE: Illegal Spaces in Initials Hi, A sort of linked problem, but if WinBMD is going to be looked at perhaps this could be too. But this is going to get very confusing so I apologise in advance... Taking the example Chris has used, if you choose to save the "C.J." as a new name to use again, when you select the saved item in future the final full stop is dropped. So if you had saved the "C.J." and later on came across the entry Smith, Margaret C.J. you would enter in the forename field "Margaret " then the key sequence is c/./backspace/[numeric key relating to C.J.] IMHO that should work, but WinBMD replaces the final full stop with a space so you need to hit backspace and re-enter the full stop. If we had the option Nick mentions to toggle the automatic insertion of a space after a full stop then the need for the backspace(s) would be removed Told you it would get confusing, but hopefully you can understand the problem. Keith > Subject: Re: Illegal Spaces in Initials > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 12:11:53 +0100 > > I'm sure there are good reasons for this behaviour in WinBMD but I too > find it annoying. > > My suggestions: > > 1. An option to suppress the automatic insertion of a space after a full > stop in the name field. Automatic capitalisation of the first letter > after a full stop. > > 2. Detection of a full stop in a name to prevent the programme asking > whether it should be added as a new name, either as normal behaviour or > as an option. > > Is WinBMD being actively maintained? Or can I obtain the source and > attempt to change it myself? > > Nick > > > On Fri, 2009-01-23 at 10:09 +0000, C&D Hughes wrote: > > We are aware of the way 20thC typed scans have no spaces where there are > > 2 or more initials. My question as a mainly self taught, non-touch > > typist is whether there is a better way of typing , using WinBMD version > > 5.0.0, than this example: > > > > Smith, John C.J. > > the keys sequence is: c/stop/back-space/shift+J/stop/tab/enter (to tell > > WinBMD you don't want to add "C.J." as a new forename) > > > > Note that WinBMD automatically inserts a space after the first full stop > > and then cannot recognise the space-free set of initials as other than a > > full name. > > > > I find the procedure unnatural, having been instructed always to hit > > space after a full stop, and it destroys the transcription rhythm. > > > > Chris > > FreeBMD-Admins mailing list - archive > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/freebmd-admins > > FreeBMD http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > FreeBMD-Admins mailing list - archive > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/freebmd-admins > FreeBMD http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Love Hotmail? Check out the new services from Windows Live! http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/132630768/direct/01/ FreeBMD-Admins mailing list - archive http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/freebmd-admins FreeBMD http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I agree it is tiresome, but what I do is type both initials them press the left arrow key 3 times, back space and enter. That way you don't have to use the shift key. Hope that helps, Adrian Jervis ----Original Message---- From: [email protected] Date: 23/01/2009 10:09 To: <[email protected]> Subj: Illegal Spaces in Initials We are aware of the way 20thC typed scans have no spaces where there are 2 or more initials. My question as a mainly self taught, non-touch typist is whether there is a better way of typing , using WinBMD version 5.0.0, than this example: Smith, John C.J. the keys sequence is: c/stop/back-space/shift+J/stop/tab/enter (to tell WinBMD you don't want to add "C.J." as a new forename) Note that WinBMD automatically inserts a space after the first full stop and then cannot recognise the space-free set of initials as other than a full name. I find the procedure unnatural, having been instructed always to hit space after a full stop, and it destroys the transcription rhythm. Chris FreeBMD-Admins mailing list - archive http://archiver.rootsweb. com/th/index/freebmd-admins FreeBMD http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FREEBMD-ADMINS- [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message What Tiscali can do for you - http://www.tiscali.co.uk/services ___________________________________________________

Hi, A sort of linked problem, but if WinBMD is going to be looked at perhaps this could be too. But this is going to get very confusing so I apologise in advance... Taking the example Chris has used, if you choose to save the "C.J." as a new name to use again, when you select the saved item in future the final full stop is dropped. So if you had saved the "C.J." and later on came across the entry Smith, Margaret C.J. you would enter in the forename field "Margaret " then the key sequence is c/./backspace/[numeric key relating to C.J.] IMHO that should work, but WinBMD replaces the final full stop with a space so you need to hit backspace and re-enter the full stop. If we had the option Nick mentions to toggle the automatic insertion of a space after a full stop then the need for the backspace(s) would be removed Told you it would get confusing, but hopefully you can understand the problem. Keith > Subject: Re: Illegal Spaces in Initials > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 12:11:53 +0100 > > I'm sure there are good reasons for this behaviour in WinBMD but I too > find it annoying. > > My suggestions: > > 1. An option to suppress the automatic insertion of a space after a full > stop in the name field. Automatic capitalisation of the first letter > after a full stop. > > 2. Detection of a full stop in a name to prevent the programme asking > whether it should be added as a new name, either as normal behaviour or > as an option. > > Is WinBMD being actively maintained? Or can I obtain the source and > attempt to change it myself? > > Nick > > > On Fri, 2009-01-23 at 10:09 +0000, C&D Hughes wrote: > > We are aware of the way 20thC typed scans have no spaces where there are > > 2 or more initials. My question as a mainly self taught, non-touch > > typist is whether there is a better way of typing , using WinBMD version > > 5.0.0, than this example: > > > > Smith, John C.J. > > the keys sequence is: c/stop/back-space/shift+J/stop/tab/enter (to tell > > WinBMD you don't want to add "C.J." as a new forename) > > > > Note that WinBMD automatically inserts a space after the first full stop > > and then cannot recognise the space-free set of initials as other than a > > full name. > > > > I find the procedure unnatural, having been instructed always to hit > > space after a full stop, and it destroys the transcription rhythm. > > > > Chris > > FreeBMD-Admins mailing list - archive http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/freebmd-admins > > FreeBMD http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > FreeBMD-Admins mailing list - archive http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/freebmd-admins > FreeBMD http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Love Hotmail?  Check out the new services from Windows Live! http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/132630768/direct/01/

I'm sure there are good reasons for this behaviour in WinBMD but I too find it annoying. My suggestions: 1. An option to suppress the automatic insertion of a space after a full stop in the name field. Automatic capitalisation of the first letter after a full stop. 2. Detection of a full stop in a name to prevent the programme asking whether it should be added as a new name, either as normal behaviour or as an option. Is WinBMD being actively maintained? Or can I obtain the source and attempt to change it myself? Nick On Fri, 2009-01-23 at 10:09 +0000, C&D Hughes wrote: > We are aware of the way 20thC typed scans have no spaces where there are > 2 or more initials. My question as a mainly self taught, non-touch > typist is whether there is a better way of typing , using WinBMD version > 5.0.0, than this example: > > Smith, John C.J. > the keys sequence is: c/stop/back-space/shift+J/stop/tab/enter (to tell > WinBMD you don't want to add "C.J." as a new forename) > > Note that WinBMD automatically inserts a space after the first full stop > and then cannot recognise the space-free set of initials as other than a > full name. > > I find the procedure unnatural, having been instructed always to hit > space after a full stop, and it destroys the transcription rhythm. > > Chris > FreeBMD-Admins mailing list - archive http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/freebmd-admins > FreeBMD http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

2009/1/22 Ray Oakley <[email protected]> > In the past I have filed corrections (following your instructions) and > had them accepted. > > Elsewhere I have used post-its and they work fine. > > But how do I report omissions. > > I have found two relatives by the tedious method of searching each > quarter of the indexes and checked that they are not returned by > FreeBMD. I can't find any way to report this but I feel that your > generally quite excellent website would benefit from these > corrections. > The answer to this is "it depends" FreeBMD is a work in progress, so it is not actually an error to find that some entries haven't been transcribed. The only case where it is an error is where other records on the same page of the index have been transcribed, indicating that a part page is missing. If the second applies, you should submit a correction to another entry on the same page, and follow the instructions on the corrections form regarding missing entries. If no other entries on that index page are on-line, you simply need to be patient. The page will be transcribed eventually. -- Dave Mayall

We are aware of the way 20thC typed scans have no spaces where there are 2 or more initials. My question as a mainly self taught, non-touch typist is whether there is a better way of typing , using WinBMD version 5.0.0, than this example: Smith, John C.J. the keys sequence is: c/stop/back-space/shift+J/stop/tab/enter (to tell WinBMD you don't want to add "C.J." as a new forename) Note that WinBMD automatically inserts a space after the first full stop and then cannot recognise the space-free set of initials as other than a full name. I find the procedure unnatural, having been instructed always to hit space after a full stop, and it destroys the transcription rhythm. Chris

In the past I have filed corrections (following your instructions) and had them accepted. Elsewhere I have used post-its and they work fine. But how do I report omissions. I have found two relatives by the tedious method of searching each quarter of the indexes and checked that they are not returned by FreeBMD. I can't find any way to report this but I feel that your generally quite excellent website would benefit from these corrections. Regards Ray Oakley

In WinBMD v5 ( find the version from Help menu and 'About') In the Scan View menu select 'Open New scan' (if scan is not already open) and navigate to your scan image and open it. In the View menu at the top of the Scan View window select 'Show Ruler' and calibrate the ruler in the usual way under the 1st and 10th entry. In the View menu at the top of the Scan View window select 'Image Tools'. Near the bottom of the new window select 'Rotation' and then select a number. If your scan slopes uphill left to right ( /) then use a suitable negative number ( -2 is a good one to try) and click on 'Rotate'. If your scan slopes downhill left to right (\) then use a positive number. If the first rotation does not achieve the desired result, use more rotations until the horizontal coloured 'ruler' is near enough parallel to the line of text. In BMDVerify get the latest version and use the L and R buttons at the bottom of the window to tilt the page left or right, 1 degree at a time. Hope this helps Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 2:32 PM Subject: FreeBMD > Hi, > > I wondered if any transcriber has the knowledge and patience to take me > step > by step through the procedure needed for me to be able to rotate a scan > window. Whatever I try ends in failure. The scans I am now transcribing > are at an > awful angle both to transcribe and verify. > > Regards, Roy > FreeBMD-Admins mailing list - archive > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/freebmd-admins > FreeBMD http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Re rotating scan windows - have you tried a program such as Adobe photoshop.   Works very well for me. ________________________________ From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, 21 January, 2009 2:32:53 PM Subject: FreeBMD Hi, I wondered if any transcriber has the knowledge and patience to take me  step by step through the procedure needed for me to be able to rotate a  scan window. Whatever I try ends in failure. The scans  I am now transcribing are at an awful angle both to transcribe and verify. Regards, Roy FreeBMD-Admins mailing list - archive http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/freebmd-admins FreeBMD http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Roy, I think it might be an advantage to us to know what you are using to view the scans for transcription. For instance, if you are using a powerful tool such as Photoshop etc, then the advice that can be offered is a lot different than if you are using Windows Viewer etc. For the verification, I would strongly recommend the latest version of BMDVerify, as this has inbuilt functions for tilting the image, and I can say from personal experience that it's a wonderful inclusion. The link to the new version is here: http://bmdverify.itendia.co.uk/bmdv3/bmdv3.html Carrie :) ________________________________ From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, 21 January, 2009 14:32:53 Subject: FreeBMD Hi, I wondered if any transcriber has the knowledge and patience to take me step by step through the procedure needed for me to be able to rotate a scan window. Whatever I try ends in failure. The scans I am now transcribing are at an awful angle both to transcribe and verify. Regards, Roy FreeBMD-Admins mailing list - archive http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/freebmd-admins FreeBMD http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I don't know if it helps you but I use Microsoft Office Picture Manager and select 'picture' from the top tool bar which allows a picture rotation by single degrees. --- On Wed, 21/1/09, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: > From: [email protected] <[email protected]> > Subject: FreeBMD > To: [email protected] > Date: Wednesday, 21 January, 2009, 2:32 PM > Hi, > > I wondered if any transcriber has the knowledge and > patience to take me step > by step through the procedure needed for me to be able to > rotate a scan > window. Whatever I try ends in failure. The scans I am now > transcribing are at an > awful angle both to transcribe and verify. > > Regards, Roy > FreeBMD-Admins mailing list - archive > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/freebmd-admins > FreeBMD http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

Great!!! Thank you all for the response. Problem sorted. Life will now be much easier. Roy

Colin, I am using Adobe Photoshop. My system has used it from the start without any particular bidding of mine. Roy

Hello Carrie, I am using Adobe Photoshop album. It is what my system has used from the start without any particular guidance from me. Roy

Hi, I wondered if any transcriber has the knowledge and patience to take me step by step through the procedure needed for me to be able to rotate a scan window. Whatever I try ends in failure. The scans I am now transcribing are at an awful angle both to transcribe and verify. Regards, Roy

Hi, I have just joined as a transcriber and am having difficulties downloading WinBMD to my new Windows Vista computer. After downloading the programme I get taken to the installation wizard which says I can modify, change or delete the file - which I understand should not be happening - can anybody give me any help in how to get the programme to work? I have not had any error messages, and I have had no problem downloading BMDverify. Thank you for any help in this matter Janet _____ I am using the Free version of SPAMfighter <http://www.spamfighter.com/len> We are a community of 5.8 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 44 of my spam emails to date. The Professional version does not have this message

Archer Barrie wrote: > Has anyone had a problem when installing WinBMD and getting the error > message "error message 1327.invaliddrive:E:/"? This comes from > InstallShield Wizard. And how you get round the problem? > > Otherwise, anyone any thoughts about what might cause it? As far as I > can tell there is no unusual configuration. > > Barrie > FreeBMD-Admins mailing list - archive http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/freebmd-admins > FreeBMD http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > It appeas to be a windoze error. Try looking here:- http://support.microsoft.com/kb/327763 John

Has anyone had a problem when installing WinBMD and getting the error message "error message 1327.invaliddrive:E:/"? This comes from InstallShield Wizard. And how you get round the problem? Otherwise, anyone any thoughts about what might cause it? As far as I can tell there is no unusual configuration. Barrie

On 15 Jan 2009 at 13:23, JOHN BROOME wrote: > I seem to be getting the digests in batches. Today i received 5,6 and > 8 all at the same time. I received No 7 two days ago. Around Christmas > the same thing occurred with a batch of 9 and again only one arrived > correctly. Is this a BMD or ISP problem. JBB > Hi John, ==In Short== On this occasion, RootsWeb. ==In Long== On this occasion it looks as though the list server at RootsWeb that hosts the FreeBMD mailing list has been wonky on **delivering** email, and delivering it to everyone, not just one ISP. I cannot tell whether it was all mail, or just digest mail. Inbound mail looks to have been fine. To my analysis, it would seem that the digests have been prepared as normal and put to the mail queue for delivery. The server would be set to try and deliver on creation, and if it fails it would then requeue the mail for subsequent delivery. Here it seems the mail queue hasn't been cycling, and when they have come to clear the queue it will deliver them as it finds them and as the receiving ISP will receive it, hence out of order. A number of possible reasons, however, from my analysis of the mail process, my thought for mail to be delayed for that period of time, in that means would simply would be it was not noticed, so is either neglect or over-allocated personnel. The resources that RootsWeb, via the parent company, allocates to mailing lists is a lot less than it used to be, both in terms of time and skills. [I used to know one or two things about mail server and mailing list servers, so it is not a totally uninformed opinion.] Regards Andrew List-admin for FreeBMD-Admins mailing list -> Visit http://FreeBMD.rootsweb.com

Hi Mark It was the e with the accent over it. I'll pass on your suggestion, Thanks Cheers Sue Coordinator of The Recordsmiths Syndicate of volunteer transcribers working for FreeBMD. See http://www.freebmd.org.uk/ for details of the project. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Prior" <[email protected]> To: "Susan & Martin Hawkins" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2009 5:25 PM Subject: Re: Special Character Table with Mac Users Susan & Martin Hawkins wrote: > I have a transcriber who uses a Mac and she needs to use a Special > Character. Does anyone know if the MacBMD Program has a Special Character > table or something similar and if so how is it used. Hi Sue, I don't know what happens if you upload it but you can use the normal Mac OS key sequences to get accented characters in MacBMD. For example to get é you type option-e then e If you access the keyboard viewer via the flag on the menu bar you can see what key to press with option held to get the accent you need. What character does your transcriber need? Mark.