I've had a query from a transcriber in the Ian Brooke syndicate about this page. About three-quarters of the way down the second column there's a letter A at the end of, and halfway in between, the entries for Handley,Clive and Handley,Colin R. I've suggested transcribing these entries like this: Handley,Clive,Hunt,Hull,2a,586 #COMMENT(2) There is a letter A halfway between and at the end of the entries for Handley,Clive and Handley,Colin R. Handley,Colin R.,Aston,Rowley R.,9b,574 Has anyone got any better ideas ? Cheers, Mike

Thank you... I was beginning to consider unsubscribing from the alerts as it was all getting a little petty. Sian -----Original Message----- From: David Mayall Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2011 2:44 PM To: freebmd-admins@rootsweb.com Subject: Use of this list Can I take this opportunity to remind ALL members of the Admins list of two cardinal rules for the smooth running of the list; 1) The Admins list is for advice on how to do things, based on the current way that things are done. It is not for discussion of or advocacy for or against changes to the established way of doing things. The FreeBMD-Discuss list exists for discussion of potential changes, and such discussions must take place there. 2) Where a discussion, or a particular post, is not appropriate for the list, the poster will be contacted privately by a list admin who has been appointed by the trustees to maintain good order on the list, and advised accordingly. Public comment from the list admin in such cases is always restricted to what is absolutely necessary to redirect discussions to the Discuss list if required. In particular, the list admin refrains from public comments about the way that list members conduct themselves. If any member of the list feels that there is a problem with a post or a discussion, they should draw the attention of the list admin to it, but should NOT comment upon the appropriateness or otherwise of that post on the list. -- Dave Mayall FreeBMD-Admins mailing list - archive http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/freebmd-admins FreeBMD http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FREEBMD-ADMINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Can I take this opportunity to remind ALL members of the Admins list of two cardinal rules for the smooth running of the list; 1) The Admins list is for advice on how to do things, based on the current way that things are done. It is not for discussion of or advocacy for or against changes to the established way of doing things. The FreeBMD-Discuss list exists for discussion of potential changes, and such discussions must take place there. 2) Where a discussion, or a particular post, is not appropriate for the list, the poster will be contacted privately by a list admin who has been appointed by the trustees to maintain good order on the list, and advised accordingly. Public comment from the list admin in such cases is always restricted to what is absolutely necessary to redirect discussions to the Discuss list if required. In particular, the list admin refrains from public comments about the way that list members conduct themselves. If any member of the list feels that there is a problem with a post or a discussion, they should draw the attention of the list admin to it, but should NOT comment upon the appropriateness or otherwise of that post on the list. -- Dave Mayall

I'm afraid I don't agree with Mildred's post. As a relatively new transcriber and someone who works in the IT sector, I'm very aware that the best way to make improvements to software is to invite constructive comments from all users or potential users. The comments I have seen over the last couple of days are from frustrated users who are making constructive suggestions. These should be welcomed, not stamped on! WinBMD is an excellent piece of software, but like any software, it can be improved. I would suggest that if we did "have to type everything out in full", it would lead to a rapid decline in the number of transcribers and the quantity of work transcribed. What will you suggest next, that we should be grateful we don't have to construct the .BMD files manually, using Notepad and DOS? Adam Knight

Well said Mildred. Vicky From: freebmd-admins-request@rootsweb.com Subject: FREEBMD-ADMINS Digest, Vol 6, Issue 72 To: freebmd-admins@rootsweb.com Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 01:00:51 -0600 --Forwarded Message Attachment-- From: mfk@nasmith.org.uk To: freebmd-admins@rootsweb.com Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 16:17:17 +0100 Subject: Re: District Pick List Can we call a halt to the waspish emails about the district list (and any other list)? I think we are lucky to have these lists at all and so don’t have to type everything out in full. Long live common sense when needed! Mildred --Forwarded Message Attachment-- From: brian@bmclark.plus.com To: freebmd-admins@rootsweb.com Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 16:56:43 +0100 Subject: Re: DISTRICT LIST The transcriber did ask Scan2 for an explanation but I forgot to reply. She was using v6 of WinbMD but seems to have gone back to v5 for some reason. I'll contact her off-line. Regards Brian On 18 May 2011 at 17:21, Jane Karaca wrote: > I am transcribing file 1950M4S0121 and WinBMD will not let me submit > it because there is an invalid number (1) in district > Nthmbld.N.1st,1b. I have used this district many times without > problems and I see it is still included in the list of current > districts. How do I override this please? ---------------------- > janekaraca@fastmail.fm FreeBMD-Admins mailing list - archive > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/freebmd-admins FreeBMD > http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ >

I am transcribing file 1950M4S0121 and WinBMD will not let me submit it because there is an invalid number (1) in district Nthmbld.N.1st,1b. I have used this district many times without problems and I see it is still included in the list of current districts. How do I override this please? ---------------------- janekaraca@fastmail.fm

The transcriber did ask Scan2 for an explanation but I forgot to reply. She was using v6 of WinbMD but seems to have gone back to v5 for some reason. I'll contact her off-line. Regards Brian On 18 May 2011 at 17:21, Jane Karaca wrote: > I am transcribing file 1950M4S0121 and WinBMD will not let me submit > it because there is an invalid number (1) in district > Nthmbld.N.1st,1b. I have used this district many times without > problems and I see it is still included in the list of current > districts. How do I override this please? ---------------------- > janekaraca@fastmail.fm FreeBMD-Admins mailing list - archive > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/freebmd-admins FreeBMD > http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ >

Can we call a halt to the waspish emails about the district list (and any other list)? I think we are lucky to have these lists at all and so don’t have to type everything out in full. Long live common sense when needed! Mildred

In terms of timing, Ian sent a message at the same time as he updated the "master" version of the list in our code repository. Code doesn't instantly go live once it has been updated, rather it will usually go live immediately before the next database update starts, which means that there will often be a disjoint between the notification and the point where it goes live. Your points about people working as suits them best is taken, but equally we have to take account of the overwhelming majority of users who do not "tweak" WinBMD in any way. Making the update optional would generate significant calls for support from people who want to know whether they should accept the update. As things stand, there is a way in which those who want to override the updates can do so, and the program is written so as to allow those who wish to do so to customise the lists. The official position must, however, be "don't touch unless you understand what you are doing". -----Original Message----- From: freebmd-admins-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:freebmd-admins-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of C&D Hughes Sent: 18 May 2011 13:53 To: freebmd-admins@rootsweb.com; Nick.Lord@t-online.de Subject: RE: District Pick List Sorry if I caused offence, but I don't accept all the comments. Between 6th May (and I can't find a copy of Ian's message in my files but I'll accept that I may have received one) and 16th when I was affronted by the new List, I'd uploaded 20 files without getting the replacement. So I might be excused for having forgotten the forewarning. And I'd also remind everyone that I asked for the download to be optional. Since transcribing with the latest version, I have already had to add one District (in 1933), though for the life of me I cannot remember what it was! The biggest problem for me is caused by the dreaded space or not after a full stop. With the new list, if I type 'W.', I get a list of 10 of which the first 4 have the space and the last 6 no space. Only 2 districts are duplicated...W.Derby & W.Ashford. I expect there's a good reason for having to include those with the space after the stop. Can someone enlighten me? Finally, as regards "messing about" with the official list, we are all volunteers and we all find ways of working which suit us best. In some cases this may involve adding to or deleting from the list, bearing in mind that a lot of entries in the official version are non-deletable. Ian's reminder about volume number changes is timely and very relevant but surely TWYS rules OK! Chris Hughes -----Original Message----- From: freebmd-admins-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:freebmd-admins-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Coleman Sent: 17 May 2011 18:12 To: freebmd-admins@rootsweb.com; Nick.Lord@t-online.de Subject: Re: District Pick List It is a standard feature of WinBMD Version 6 that the District File is replaced (if a new version has been deployed) whenever you send a file to FreeBMD. This means that all active transcribers should have the same accurate version of the 'default' district list, and fewer erroneous districts should creep into transcriptions. You will recall that Ian Brooke sent a message to this mailing list on 6th May headed 'District File' advising that a new district file was about to be deployed. Please bear in mind that ordinary users of WinBMD are NOT expected to mess about with (or 'customise' ) the WinBMD_Districts file. If while using WinBMD you add any extra abbreviated districts ( or deviant spellings) which then show up in your picklist, the place where they are stored is WinBMD_Supp_Districts. That is the way WinBMD is designed to be used, and for the great majority of users there is no need to know 'how it works' or where particular data is stored, it is simply a delight that it does work so well and makes transcribing so straightforward. [However, for the benefit of Chris and Nick and anyone else who has 'customised' their WinBMD_Districts file here is what you need to know: To find your saved copy of your old district list ( with any special features some of you may have built in or deleted) you go to C:\Program Files\WinBMD\Files and then in Vista or Windows 7 you need to select 'compatibility files'. This will then direct you to a location which will be along the lines of .......Local\VirtualStore\WinBMD\Files. It depends the date or time when your Districts list was replaced exactly what the name of your saved copy will be. Mine is called CopyofDistrictFile160511222357 and is a txt file. ] A quick comparison of the old and the new District Files suggests that the new one is rather more user-friendly, with districts like Anglesey E. and Barrow S. instead of Anglesey East and Barrow upon Soar. As these are the abbreviations we commonly find when transcribing typed pages from 1911 and later, it is very helpful to find them appearing by default. Well done, Ian. Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "C&D Hughes" <hughes.11@btinternet.com> To: <Nick.Lord@t-online.de>; <freebmd-admins@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 2:39 PM Subject: RE: District Pick List > Yes, I customise my list too which adds to the annoyance potential. > > I don't know how to delete the new list though or to find the copy of the > old one. Please can you enlighten me? I'm running WinBMD version 6.1 on > Windows 7. > > Chris Hughes > > -----Original Message----- > From: freebmd-admins-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:freebmd-admins-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Nick Lord > Sent: 17 May 2011 14:12 > To: freebmd-admins@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: District Pick List > > I'll second this. The download does, however, make a copy beforehand, so > you can just delete the new one and rename the old one. But it is a tad > annoying. I've customised my list to take out all the redundant district > names that appear in "full" form, and which only appear in scans in the > abbreviated form. I know this isn't approved, but it keeps the list > manageable in its length and reduces key-strokes. > > Best regards, > Nick Lord > > On Tue, 2011-05-17 at 09:59 +0100, C&D Hughes wrote: >> Uploading my day's work yesterday, I noticed I also downloaded, without >> so >> much as a by your leave, a new District Pick List. Transcribing today I > find >> a significant number of changes in the "speed dial" numbers, e.g. W.Derby >> gone from 5 to 2 and much worse W.Ham from 7 to 10 (2 key-strokes). There >> are many others. >> >> >> >> Without starting a debate on the advisability of making these changes, is > it >> not possible to make a new list an optional download? My work will be > slower >> now and I bet I'm not the only one. >> >> >> >> And PLEASE do not change the Forename List again!!! It took an age to get >> George right after the last change!!! >> >> >> >> Chris Hughes >> >> FreeBMD-Admins mailing list - archive > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/freebmd-admins >> FreeBMD http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FREEBMD-ADMINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > FreeBMD-Admins mailing list - archive > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/freebmd-admins > FreeBMD http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FREEBMD-ADMINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > FreeBMD-Admins mailing list - archive > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/freebmd-admins > FreeBMD http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FREEBMD-ADMINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > FreeBMD-Admins mailing list - archive http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/freebmd-admins FreeBMD http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FREEBMD-ADMINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message FreeBMD-Admins mailing list - archive http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/freebmd-admins FreeBMD http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FREEBMD-ADMINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Sorry if I caused offence, but I don't accept all the comments. Between 6th May (and I can't find a copy of Ian's message in my files but I'll accept that I may have received one) and 16th when I was affronted by the new List, I'd uploaded 20 files without getting the replacement. So I might be excused for having forgotten the forewarning. And I'd also remind everyone that I asked for the download to be optional. Since transcribing with the latest version, I have already had to add one District (in 1933), though for the life of me I cannot remember what it was! The biggest problem for me is caused by the dreaded space or not after a full stop. With the new list, if I type 'W.', I get a list of 10 of which the first 4 have the space and the last 6 no space. Only 2 districts are duplicated...W.Derby & W.Ashford. I expect there's a good reason for having to include those with the space after the stop. Can someone enlighten me? Finally, as regards "messing about" with the official list, we are all volunteers and we all find ways of working which suit us best. In some cases this may involve adding to or deleting from the list, bearing in mind that a lot of entries in the official version are non-deletable. Ian's reminder about volume number changes is timely and very relevant but surely TWYS rules OK! Chris Hughes -----Original Message----- From: freebmd-admins-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:freebmd-admins-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Coleman Sent: 17 May 2011 18:12 To: freebmd-admins@rootsweb.com; Nick.Lord@t-online.de Subject: Re: District Pick List It is a standard feature of WinBMD Version 6 that the District File is replaced (if a new version has been deployed) whenever you send a file to FreeBMD. This means that all active transcribers should have the same accurate version of the 'default' district list, and fewer erroneous districts should creep into transcriptions. You will recall that Ian Brooke sent a message to this mailing list on 6th May headed 'District File' advising that a new district file was about to be deployed. Please bear in mind that ordinary users of WinBMD are NOT expected to mess about with (or 'customise' ) the WinBMD_Districts file. If while using WinBMD you add any extra abbreviated districts ( or deviant spellings) which then show up in your picklist, the place where they are stored is WinBMD_Supp_Districts. That is the way WinBMD is designed to be used, and for the great majority of users there is no need to know 'how it works' or where particular data is stored, it is simply a delight that it does work so well and makes transcribing so straightforward. [However, for the benefit of Chris and Nick and anyone else who has 'customised' their WinBMD_Districts file here is what you need to know: To find your saved copy of your old district list ( with any special features some of you may have built in or deleted) you go to C:\Program Files\WinBMD\Files and then in Vista or Windows 7 you need to select 'compatibility files'. This will then direct you to a location which will be along the lines of .......Local\VirtualStore\WinBMD\Files. It depends the date or time when your Districts list was replaced exactly what the name of your saved copy will be. Mine is called CopyofDistrictFile160511222357 and is a txt file. ] A quick comparison of the old and the new District Files suggests that the new one is rather more user-friendly, with districts like Anglesey E. and Barrow S. instead of Anglesey East and Barrow upon Soar. As these are the abbreviations we commonly find when transcribing typed pages from 1911 and later, it is very helpful to find them appearing by default. Well done, Ian. Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "C&D Hughes" <hughes.11@btinternet.com> To: <Nick.Lord@t-online.de>; <freebmd-admins@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 2:39 PM Subject: RE: District Pick List > Yes, I customise my list too which adds to the annoyance potential. > > I don't know how to delete the new list though or to find the copy of the > old one. Please can you enlighten me? I'm running WinBMD version 6.1 on > Windows 7. > > Chris Hughes > > -----Original Message----- > From: freebmd-admins-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:freebmd-admins-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Nick Lord > Sent: 17 May 2011 14:12 > To: freebmd-admins@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: District Pick List > > I'll second this. The download does, however, make a copy beforehand, so > you can just delete the new one and rename the old one. But it is a tad > annoying. I've customised my list to take out all the redundant district > names that appear in "full" form, and which only appear in scans in the > abbreviated form. I know this isn't approved, but it keeps the list > manageable in its length and reduces key-strokes. > > Best regards, > Nick Lord > > On Tue, 2011-05-17 at 09:59 +0100, C&D Hughes wrote: >> Uploading my day's work yesterday, I noticed I also downloaded, without >> so >> much as a by your leave, a new District Pick List. Transcribing today I > find >> a significant number of changes in the "speed dial" numbers, e.g. W.Derby >> gone from 5 to 2 and much worse W.Ham from 7 to 10 (2 key-strokes). There >> are many others. >> >> >> >> Without starting a debate on the advisability of making these changes, is > it >> not possible to make a new list an optional download? My work will be > slower >> now and I bet I'm not the only one. >> >> >> >> And PLEASE do not change the Forename List again!!! It took an age to get >> George right after the last change!!! >> >> >> >> Chris Hughes >> >> FreeBMD-Admins mailing list - archive > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/freebmd-admins >> FreeBMD http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FREEBMD-ADMINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > FreeBMD-Admins mailing list - archive > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/freebmd-admins > FreeBMD http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FREEBMD-ADMINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > FreeBMD-Admins mailing list - archive > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/freebmd-admins > FreeBMD http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FREEBMD-ADMINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > FreeBMD-Admins mailing list - archive http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/freebmd-admins FreeBMD http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FREEBMD-ADMINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Replied off-list. Ian -------------------------------------------------- From: "C&D Hughes" <hughes.11@btinternet.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 6:52 AM To: <freebmd-admins@rootsweb.com>; <Nick.Lord@t-online.de> Subject: RE: District Pick List > Sorry if I caused offence, but I don't accept all the comments. Between > 6th > May (and I can't find a copy of Ian's message in my files but I'll accept > that I may have received one) and 16th when I was affronted by the new > List, > I'd uploaded 20 files without getting the replacement. So I might be > excused > for having forgotten the forewarning. And I'd also remind everyone that I > asked for the download to be optional. > > Since transcribing with the latest version, I have already had to add one > District (in 1933), though for the life of me I cannot remember what it > was! > The biggest problem for me is caused by the dreaded space or not after a > full stop. With the new list, if I type 'W.', I get a list of 10 of which > the first 4 have the space and the last 6 no space. Only 2 districts are > duplicated...W.Derby & W.Ashford. I expect there's a good reason for > having > to include those with the space after the stop. Can someone enlighten me? > > Finally, as regards "messing about" with the official list, we are all > volunteers and we all find ways of working which suit us best. In some > cases > this may involve adding to or deleting from the list, bearing in mind that > a > lot of entries in the official version are non-deletable. > > Ian's reminder about volume number changes is timely and very relevant but > surely TWYS rules OK! > > Chris Hughes > > -----Original Message----- > From: freebmd-admins-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:freebmd-admins-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Coleman > Sent: 17 May 2011 18:12 > To: freebmd-admins@rootsweb.com; Nick.Lord@t-online.de > Subject: Re: District Pick List > > It is a standard feature of WinBMD Version 6 that the District File is > replaced (if a new version has been deployed) whenever you send a file to > FreeBMD. This means that all active transcribers should have the same > accurate version of the 'default' district list, and fewer erroneous > districts should creep into transcriptions. > > You will recall that Ian Brooke sent a message to this mailing list on 6th > May headed 'District File' advising that a new district file was about to > be deployed. > > Please bear in mind that ordinary users of WinBMD are NOT expected to mess > about with (or 'customise' ) the WinBMD_Districts file. > > If while using WinBMD you add any extra abbreviated districts ( or > deviant > spellings) which then show up in your picklist, the place where they are > stored is WinBMD_Supp_Districts. That is the way WinBMD is designed to be > used, and for the great majority of users there is no need to know 'how it > works' or where particular data is stored, it is simply a delight that it > does work so well and makes transcribing so straightforward. > > [However, for the benefit of Chris and Nick and anyone else who has > 'customised' their WinBMD_Districts file here is what you need to know: > To find your saved copy of your old district list ( with any special > features some of you may have built in or deleted) you go to C:\Program > Files\WinBMD\Files and then in Vista or Windows 7 you need to select > 'compatibility files'. > This will then direct you to a location which will be along the lines of > .......Local\VirtualStore\WinBMD\Files. > It depends the date or time when your Districts list was replaced exactly > what the name of your saved copy will be. Mine is called > CopyofDistrictFile160511222357 and is a txt file. ] > > A quick comparison of the old and the new District Files suggests that the > new one is rather more user-friendly, with districts like Anglesey E. and > Barrow S. instead of Anglesey East and Barrow upon Soar. As these are the > abbreviations we commonly find when transcribing typed pages from 1911 and > later, it is very helpful to find them appearing by default. > > Well done, Ian. > > Jeff > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "C&D Hughes" <hughes.11@btinternet.com> > To: <Nick.Lord@t-online.de>; <freebmd-admins@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 2:39 PM > Subject: RE: District Pick List > > >> Yes, I customise my list too which adds to the annoyance potential. >> >> I don't know how to delete the new list though or to find the copy of the >> old one. Please can you enlighten me? I'm running WinBMD version 6.1 on >> Windows 7. >> >> Chris Hughes >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: freebmd-admins-bounces@rootsweb.com >> [mailto:freebmd-admins-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Nick Lord >> Sent: 17 May 2011 14:12 >> To: freebmd-admins@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: District Pick List >> >> I'll second this. The download does, however, make a copy beforehand, so >> you can just delete the new one and rename the old one. But it is a tad >> annoying. I've customised my list to take out all the redundant district >> names that appear in "full" form, and which only appear in scans in the >> abbreviated form. I know this isn't approved, but it keeps the list >> manageable in its length and reduces key-strokes. >> >> Best regards, >> Nick Lord >> >> On Tue, 2011-05-17 at 09:59 +0100, C&D Hughes wrote: >>> Uploading my day's work yesterday, I noticed I also downloaded, without >>> so >>> much as a by your leave, a new District Pick List. Transcribing today I >> find >>> a significant number of changes in the "speed dial" numbers, e.g. >>> W.Derby >>> gone from 5 to 2 and much worse W.Ham from 7 to 10 (2 key-strokes). >>> There >>> are many others. >>> >>> >>> >>> Without starting a debate on the advisability of making these changes, >>> is >> it >>> not possible to make a new list an optional download? My work will be >> slower >>> now and I bet I'm not the only one. >>> >>> >>> >>> And PLEASE do not change the Forename List again!!! It took an age to >>> get >>> George right after the last change!!! >>> >>> >>> >>> Chris Hughes >>> >>> FreeBMD-Admins mailing list - archive >> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/freebmd-admins >>> FreeBMD http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> FREEBMD-ADMINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> FreeBMD-Admins mailing list - archive >> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/freebmd-admins >> FreeBMD http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> FREEBMD-ADMINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> FreeBMD-Admins mailing list - archive >> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/freebmd-admins >> FreeBMD http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> FREEBMD-ADMINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > FreeBMD-Admins mailing list - archive > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/freebmd-admins > FreeBMD http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FREEBMD-ADMINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > FreeBMD-Admins mailing list - archive > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/freebmd-admins > FreeBMD http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FREEBMD-ADMINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I hope nobody misconstrued my comments as being critical of Ian's work. As a programmer myself I know how difficult it is to please all of the users all of the time. The current modus operandi is, as Jeff points out, the best solution for the great majority of users. The fact that we were warned in advance and that the program informs the user when a new district file has been down-loaded means that those of us who (at least think they) know what they're doing can take appropriate steps and incorporate Ian's changes into their files. I'd like to take the opportunity to echo Jeff's sentiments and to also say Well done, Ian. Best regards, Nick Lord On Tue, 2011-05-17 at 18:12 +0100, Jeff Coleman wrote: > It is a standard feature of WinBMD Version 6 that the District File is > replaced (if a new version has been deployed) whenever you send a file to > FreeBMD. This means that all active transcribers should have the same > accurate version of the 'default' district list, and fewer erroneous > districts should creep into transcriptions. > > You will recall that Ian Brooke sent a message to this mailing list on 6th > May headed 'District File' advising that a new district file was about to > be deployed. > > Please bear in mind that ordinary users of WinBMD are NOT expected to mess > about with (or 'customise' ) the WinBMD_Districts file. > > If while using WinBMD you add any extra abbreviated districts ( or deviant > spellings) which then show up in your picklist, the place where they are > stored is WinBMD_Supp_Districts. That is the way WinBMD is designed to be > used, and for the great majority of users there is no need to know 'how it > works' or where particular data is stored, it is simply a delight that it > does work so well and makes transcribing so straightforward. > > [However, for the benefit of Chris and Nick and anyone else who has > 'customised' their WinBMD_Districts file here is what you need to know: > To find your saved copy of your old district list ( with any special > features some of you may have built in or deleted) you go to C:\Program > Files\WinBMD\Files and then in Vista or Windows 7 you need to select > 'compatibility files'. > This will then direct you to a location which will be along the lines of > .......Local\VirtualStore\WinBMD\Files. > It depends the date or time when your Districts list was replaced exactly > what the name of your saved copy will be. Mine is called > CopyofDistrictFile160511222357 and is a txt file. ] > > A quick comparison of the old and the new District Files suggests that the > new one is rather more user-friendly, with districts like Anglesey E. and > Barrow S. instead of Anglesey East and Barrow upon Soar. As these are the > abbreviations we commonly find when transcribing typed pages from 1911 and > later, it is very helpful to find them appearing by default. > > Well done, Ian. > > Jeff >

It is a standard feature of WinBMD Version 6 that the District File is replaced (if a new version has been deployed) whenever you send a file to FreeBMD. This means that all active transcribers should have the same accurate version of the 'default' district list, and fewer erroneous districts should creep into transcriptions. You will recall that Ian Brooke sent a message to this mailing list on 6th May headed 'District File' advising that a new district file was about to be deployed. Please bear in mind that ordinary users of WinBMD are NOT expected to mess about with (or 'customise' ) the WinBMD_Districts file. If while using WinBMD you add any extra abbreviated districts ( or deviant spellings) which then show up in your picklist, the place where they are stored is WinBMD_Supp_Districts. That is the way WinBMD is designed to be used, and for the great majority of users there is no need to know 'how it works' or where particular data is stored, it is simply a delight that it does work so well and makes transcribing so straightforward. [However, for the benefit of Chris and Nick and anyone else who has 'customised' their WinBMD_Districts file here is what you need to know: To find your saved copy of your old district list ( with any special features some of you may have built in or deleted) you go to C:\Program Files\WinBMD\Files and then in Vista or Windows 7 you need to select 'compatibility files'. This will then direct you to a location which will be along the lines of .......Local\VirtualStore\WinBMD\Files. It depends the date or time when your Districts list was replaced exactly what the name of your saved copy will be. Mine is called CopyofDistrictFile160511222357 and is a txt file. ] A quick comparison of the old and the new District Files suggests that the new one is rather more user-friendly, with districts like Anglesey E. and Barrow S. instead of Anglesey East and Barrow upon Soar. As these are the abbreviations we commonly find when transcribing typed pages from 1911 and later, it is very helpful to find them appearing by default. Well done, Ian. Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "C&D Hughes" <hughes.11@btinternet.com> To: <Nick.Lord@t-online.de>; <freebmd-admins@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 2:39 PM Subject: RE: District Pick List > Yes, I customise my list too which adds to the annoyance potential. > > I don't know how to delete the new list though or to find the copy of the > old one. Please can you enlighten me? I'm running WinBMD version 6.1 on > Windows 7. > > Chris Hughes > > -----Original Message----- > From: freebmd-admins-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:freebmd-admins-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Nick Lord > Sent: 17 May 2011 14:12 > To: freebmd-admins@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: District Pick List > > I'll second this. The download does, however, make a copy beforehand, so > you can just delete the new one and rename the old one. But it is a tad > annoying. I've customised my list to take out all the redundant district > names that appear in "full" form, and which only appear in scans in the > abbreviated form. I know this isn't approved, but it keeps the list > manageable in its length and reduces key-strokes. > > Best regards, > Nick Lord > > On Tue, 2011-05-17 at 09:59 +0100, C&D Hughes wrote: >> Uploading my day's work yesterday, I noticed I also downloaded, without >> so >> much as a by your leave, a new District Pick List. Transcribing today I > find >> a significant number of changes in the "speed dial" numbers, e.g. W.Derby >> gone from 5 to 2 and much worse W.Ham from 7 to 10 (2 key-strokes). There >> are many others. >> >> >> >> Without starting a debate on the advisability of making these changes, is > it >> not possible to make a new list an optional download? My work will be > slower >> now and I bet I'm not the only one. >> >> >> >> And PLEASE do not change the Forename List again!!! It took an age to get >> George right after the last change!!! >> >> >> >> Chris Hughes >> >> FreeBMD-Admins mailing list - archive > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/freebmd-admins >> FreeBMD http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FREEBMD-ADMINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > FreeBMD-Admins mailing list - archive > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/freebmd-admins > FreeBMD http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FREEBMD-ADMINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > FreeBMD-Admins mailing list - archive > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/freebmd-admins > FreeBMD http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FREEBMD-ADMINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I'll second this. The download does, however, make a copy beforehand, so you can just delete the new one and rename the old one. But it is a tad annoying. I've customised my list to take out all the redundant district names that appear in "full" form, and which only appear in scans in the abbreviated form. I know this isn't approved, but it keeps the list manageable in its length and reduces key-strokes. Best regards, Nick Lord On Tue, 2011-05-17 at 09:59 +0100, C&D Hughes wrote: > Uploading my day's work yesterday, I noticed I also downloaded, without so > much as a by your leave, a new District Pick List. Transcribing today I find > a significant number of changes in the "speed dial" numbers, e.g. W.Derby > gone from 5 to 2 and much worse W.Ham from 7 to 10 (2 key-strokes). There > are many others. > > > > Without starting a debate on the advisability of making these changes, is it > not possible to make a new list an optional download? My work will be slower > now and I bet I'm not the only one. > > > > And PLEASE do not change the Forename List again!!! It took an age to get > George right after the last change!!! > > > > Chris Hughes > > FreeBMD-Admins mailing list - archive http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/freebmd-admins > FreeBMD http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FREEBMD-ADMINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Yes, I customise my list too which adds to the annoyance potential. I don't know how to delete the new list though or to find the copy of the old one. Please can you enlighten me? I'm running WinBMD version 6.1 on Windows 7. Chris Hughes -----Original Message----- From: freebmd-admins-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:freebmd-admins-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Nick Lord Sent: 17 May 2011 14:12 To: freebmd-admins@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: District Pick List I'll second this. The download does, however, make a copy beforehand, so you can just delete the new one and rename the old one. But it is a tad annoying. I've customised my list to take out all the redundant district names that appear in "full" form, and which only appear in scans in the abbreviated form. I know this isn't approved, but it keeps the list manageable in its length and reduces key-strokes. Best regards, Nick Lord On Tue, 2011-05-17 at 09:59 +0100, C&D Hughes wrote: > Uploading my day's work yesterday, I noticed I also downloaded, without so > much as a by your leave, a new District Pick List. Transcribing today I find > a significant number of changes in the "speed dial" numbers, e.g. W.Derby > gone from 5 to 2 and much worse W.Ham from 7 to 10 (2 key-strokes). There > are many others. > > > > Without starting a debate on the advisability of making these changes, is it > not possible to make a new list an optional download? My work will be slower > now and I bet I'm not the only one. > > > > And PLEASE do not change the Forename List again!!! It took an age to get > George right after the last change!!! > > > > Chris Hughes > > FreeBMD-Admins mailing list - archive http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/freebmd-admins > FreeBMD http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FREEBMD-ADMINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message FreeBMD-Admins mailing list - archive http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/freebmd-admins FreeBMD http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FREEBMD-ADMINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks for that excellent explanation Jeff. I can't take credit for the file contents though - that goes to the district aliasing team, I just reformat and deploy it. I would just expand on one thing. The new district files do not just contain 'cosmetic' changes to the names, occasionally errors are found in the list, for example an incorrect volume number, incorrect year the district is formed etc., and these errors do get fixed. Unless people use the latest district file it is possible for these errors to affect their transcriptions. It is very important that people do not revert to the old file unless absolutely necessary. Ian -------------------------------------------------- From: "Jeff Coleman" <Jeff.Coleman@ntlworld.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 11:12 AM To: <freebmd-admins@rootsweb.com>; <Nick.Lord@t-online.de> Subject: Re: District Pick List > It is a standard feature of WinBMD Version 6 that the District File is > replaced (if a new version has been deployed) whenever you send a file to > FreeBMD. This means that all active transcribers should have the same > accurate version of the 'default' district list, and fewer erroneous > districts should creep into transcriptions. > > You will recall that Ian Brooke sent a message to this mailing list on 6th > May headed 'District File' advising that a new district file was about to > be deployed. > > Please bear in mind that ordinary users of WinBMD are NOT expected to mess > about with (or 'customise' ) the WinBMD_Districts file. > > If while using WinBMD you add any extra abbreviated districts ( or > deviant > spellings) which then show up in your picklist, the place where they are > stored is WinBMD_Supp_Districts. That is the way WinBMD is designed to be > used, and for the great majority of users there is no need to know 'how it > works' or where particular data is stored, it is simply a delight that it > does work so well and makes transcribing so straightforward. > > [However, for the benefit of Chris and Nick and anyone else who has > 'customised' their WinBMD_Districts file here is what you need to know: > To find your saved copy of your old district list ( with any special > features some of you may have built in or deleted) you go to C:\Program > Files\WinBMD\Files and then in Vista or Windows 7 you need to select > 'compatibility files'. > This will then direct you to a location which will be along the lines of > .......Local\VirtualStore\WinBMD\Files. > It depends the date or time when your Districts list was replaced exactly > what the name of your saved copy will be. Mine is called > CopyofDistrictFile160511222357 and is a txt file. ] > > A quick comparison of the old and the new District Files suggests that the > new one is rather more user-friendly, with districts like Anglesey E. and > Barrow S. instead of Anglesey East and Barrow upon Soar. As these are the > abbreviations we commonly find when transcribing typed pages from 1911 and > later, it is very helpful to find them appearing by default. > > Well done, Ian. > > Jeff > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "C&D Hughes" <hughes.11@btinternet.com> > To: <Nick.Lord@t-online.de>; <freebmd-admins@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 2:39 PM > Subject: RE: District Pick List > > >> Yes, I customise my list too which adds to the annoyance potential. >> >> I don't know how to delete the new list though or to find the copy of the >> old one. Please can you enlighten me? I'm running WinBMD version 6.1 on >> Windows 7. >> >> Chris Hughes >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: freebmd-admins-bounces@rootsweb.com >> [mailto:freebmd-admins-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Nick Lord >> Sent: 17 May 2011 14:12 >> To: freebmd-admins@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: District Pick List >> >> I'll second this. The download does, however, make a copy beforehand, so >> you can just delete the new one and rename the old one. But it is a tad >> annoying. I've customised my list to take out all the redundant district >> names that appear in "full" form, and which only appear in scans in the >> abbreviated form. I know this isn't approved, but it keeps the list >> manageable in its length and reduces key-strokes. >> >> Best regards, >> Nick Lord >> >> On Tue, 2011-05-17 at 09:59 +0100, C&D Hughes wrote: >>> Uploading my day's work yesterday, I noticed I also downloaded, without >>> so >>> much as a by your leave, a new District Pick List. Transcribing today I >> find >>> a significant number of changes in the "speed dial" numbers, e.g. >>> W.Derby >>> gone from 5 to 2 and much worse W.Ham from 7 to 10 (2 key-strokes). >>> There >>> are many others. >>> >>> >>> >>> Without starting a debate on the advisability of making these changes, >>> is >> it >>> not possible to make a new list an optional download? My work will be >> slower >>> now and I bet I'm not the only one. >>> >>> >>> >>> And PLEASE do not change the Forename List again!!! It took an age to >>> get >>> George right after the last change!!! >>> >>> >>> >>> Chris Hughes >>> >>> FreeBMD-Admins mailing list - archive >> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/freebmd-admins >>> FreeBMD http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> FREEBMD-ADMINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> FreeBMD-Admins mailing list - archive >> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/freebmd-admins >> FreeBMD http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> FREEBMD-ADMINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> FreeBMD-Admins mailing list - archive >> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/freebmd-admins >> FreeBMD http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> FREEBMD-ADMINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > FreeBMD-Admins mailing list - archive > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/freebmd-admins > FreeBMD http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FREEBMD-ADMINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Uploading my day's work yesterday, I noticed I also downloaded, without so much as a by your leave, a new District Pick List. Transcribing today I find a significant number of changes in the "speed dial" numbers, e.g. W.Derby gone from 5 to 2 and much worse W.Ham from 7 to 10 (2 key-strokes). There are many others. Without starting a debate on the advisability of making these changes, is it not possible to make a new list an optional download? My work will be slower now and I bet I'm not the only one. And PLEASE do not change the Forename List again!!! It took an age to get George right after the last change!!! Chris Hughes

Hi Carol See Transcribers' Knowledge Base ( TKB) question 3(f) at http://www.freebmd.org.uk/vol_faq.html#3f This refers to Vista but applies to Windows 7 as well. Use 'Define Save Path' in the 'File' menu and create a folder 'WinBMD' in Documents and a folder 'Output' within that, then make that the default location for your files to be saved to. Open each of your transcribed files in turn and use f3 to save to the new location. You should then be able to find them with no trouble and attach them to emails to send to your syndicate co-ordinator if you so wish. If you prefer to subdivide 'Output' into different folders for different years and quarters, or in some other way, that can also be accommodated using 'Define Save Path'. Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carol Haycock" <ghaycock@rmi.net> To: "Free BMD" <FreeBMD-Admins-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, May 15, 2011 7:55 PM Subject: Disappearing transcribed files from WinBMD Output > > I have transcribed four scans since getting my new computer with Windows 7 > last week. Two were sent to Free BMD via the transcription program and > then also sent successfully to Scan 2 from the C:/Program > Files/WinBMD/Output file. > > The third scan I transcribed yesterday went to Free BMD directly from the > WinBMD transcription program. However, when I tried to send it to Scan 2, > it did not appear in the Output file. Also I discovered that the two > files I had previously sent to Scan 2 from there were now gone. > > These are not deleted from the computer in any way as they all appear at > the bottom of the file menu in WinBMD and can be opened again in that > program. > > Has anyone any suggestion as to where I can find these. I have done a > full search of the C drive and have come up with nothing except the > original scans in a .jpeg file. > > Many thanks, > > Carol Haycock Scan2 # 609

I have transcribed four scans since getting my new computer with Windows 7 last week. Two were sent to Free BMD via the transcription program and then also sent successfully to Scan 2 from the C:/Program Files/WinBMD/Output file. The third scan I transcribed yesterday went to Free BMD directly from the WinBMD transcription program. However, when I tried to send it to Scan 2, it did not appear in the Output file. Also I discovered that the two files I had previously sent to Scan 2 from there were now gone. These are not deleted from the computer in any way as they all appear at the bottom of the file menu in WinBMD and can be opened again in that program. Has anyone any suggestion as to where I can find these. I have done a full search of the C drive and have come up with nothing except the original scans in a .jpeg file. Many thanks, Carol Haycock Scan2 # 609

Hello Dave, Yesterday I volunteered to do some transcribing and I sent an email re the newsletter. Since then, I have received this email from you but it does not make sense. I also received many others from various names all to do with Mc etc. It would seem that my email address has been compromised since sending my email yesterday. I therefore have concerns about this and the security. Regards, Gillian On 5/14/2011 8:02 AM, Dave Headey wrote: > At 13/05/2011 10:04, you wrote: >> We are transcribing 1953 Deaths, a series of scans in which the >> surname appears in CAPITALS. Unfortunately the useful Option >> "Surnames in All-Caps" doesn't work for the names like McCLEAN, >> McDONALD etc. as the lower-case 'c' will not appear. Surely this >> problem has arisen many times before, but I can find no solution on the TKB. > If you're happy to edit BMD fies with Notepad, I've found this solution works: > > 1. Go to the folder containing the BMD files. > 2. Right click on the problem one and select Open with.. Notepad. > 3. From the Edit menu select Replace. > 4. Replace MC with Mc and tick the Match Case box (that's important > otherwise it will act on lower case words like District names). > 5. Depending on how many replacements you need to make either click > Replace until you reach the end, or Replace all (but the latter is > risky as it will act on other surnames where M and C are adjacent > such as SIMCOCK). > 6. Save the file. > 7. Run BMDVerify. > > Dave Headey > > > > FreeBMD-Admins mailing list - archive http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/freebmd-admins > FreeBMD http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FREEBMD-ADMINS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > -- Gillian Holt