In a message dated 11/9/2000 7:22:50 AM Pacific Standard Time, hhooper@wa-net.com writes: << Ginny, Andrew's obit stated that he was born "near Quebec, Canada in 1811 and moved to NY as a small boy, settling in Ithaca. Does this mean anything to you? What confuses me is the comment "Near Quebec". SO is that NY or Canada. Could be either and as a result his birth remains hidden. His obit says born near Quebec. 1850 census says Ireland, then one says NY and then back to Ireland etc. Thanks, Harold >> Harold, there are veritable mobs of FRASERs in Quebec, and maybe that was your Frazier ancestor's background. (I won't give all the spellings in this note, but as we've been discussing they varied from one generation and from one family to another.) "Near Quebec" makes good sense to me, as the reference would be to Quebec City - not to the province. My family of FRAZERs seems to have settled (3 or 4 generations) in Beaumont, a town on the St. Lawrence very near Quebec City and perhaps now an actual part of it. You will find it on the south side of the river, a little to the east. My FRAZER family appears to have arrived before 1708 or at least around that time. Many more FRAZERs came with the 78th Highlanders in 1759. As noted in other messages, many stayed. And yes (keep that map out) - New York is just across the border (in places, the St. Lawrence River) and many PQ (Province of Quebec) families moved there - also into Maine and New Hampshire. Ithaca NY makes good sense and should be a good place to research, as it was a prosperous town from early days, I think. I don't know what Ireland would have to do with any FRAZER family, as this is not an Irish name. (ref - Surnames of Ireland, MacLysaght) Plenty of Scots did settle in Ireland during the plantation days (1570-1700), but I think not many from Fraser-country on the north-eastern coast of Scotland. Will have to look this up. I'll send my FRASER line so far as is known in another note. Maybe we can find a connection! Ginny Crawford