Hi Michael, I am copying the Frazier maillist. If anyone could help, we would need dates. As genealogy researchers, we usually do better with help before 1900. That information is pretty free. After 1900, gets stickier because you almost need to be kin or at the courthouse to get information. Do you know Ben's exact birth date? My steps would be to go here: http://www.usgenweb.org/statelinkstext.html Then to Colorado: http://www.rootsweb.com/~cogenweb/comain.htm One of my clicks took me here: http://www.cdphe.state.co.us/hs/forms.html You will need to fish your way around, make some telephone calls, until you find where you should be looking for Ben in what year. Looks like If he was born 1910 or later - would be easy because one call to the State Health or Vital Dept would find it. If before 1910 then you may need to go to/call each county in CO unless you know their route thru CO to get to WA. Here are all the CO County Clerks: http://www.cdphe.state.co.us/hs/coclerks.html County Vital records offices in CO: http://www.cdphe.state.co.us/hs/vroffices.htm But important is to know when Ben was born. Another idea. Where and when did Ben die? You might try for his death cert and see if there is more specific county on it. I am jabbering but here is another thot. They are going thru CO, the baby is born, they just keep going, no birth cert in CO. But if Ben managed to get to Soc Sec age or WWII, he would have needed a birth cert (a delayed one) so it might be in the county where he lived at the time when he needed it. Birth certs weren't law until 1916 but they started 1876 and some would go in sometime after 1876 and have a delayed one made so you might some birth certs 1850 up but very few. Gloria FRAZIER maillist manager At 07:20 AM 1/11/00 EST, you wrote: >hi mi name is michael frazier >my fother is leonard frazier >his fother is benjamin frazier >ben was born in colorado while his parents were en route from missouri to the >walla walla wa area can you help >