I just received information about the following viruses and since the holiday season is here and many/some of your friends and family will get new computers and will be first time computer users, you might save them some headaches with a warning. --------------- Don't open: wishyou.zip ---------------- Don't open: Hanson.scr F___ing_with_dogs.scr Found below at: <http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/w95.mtx.html> This is the Norton Utilities site. Symantic owns Norton. Kathleen Mirabella W95.MTX Discovered on: August 17, 2000 ------------------------ I have been receiving attachments of pictures and genealogy(if not in text only) which I delete/send to trash then empty the trash without opening them. If I don't know you or know that you have run a virus checker on what you are sending me I don't open them. So, if sending attachments, run the virus scan on them before asking me or someone if you can send an attachment to them. Have a virus free and joyous holiday season! Gloria On the road in AZ ------------------ Gloria Frazier Macoupin County ILGenWeb County Coordinator http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilmacoup/macoupin.htm Maillists FRAZIER-L, ILMADISO-L

Dear Cousins, I finally finished my recording project that I started back in April. As many of you know, it is a recording of a collection of Scottish fiddle tunes. It is called "On the Scottish Side" and features me on my fiddle with my teacher (who was with Roy Clark's band for 15 years during the time Roy was allowed into Russia and Bulgaria!). It has 11 tracks which include waltzes, traditional "sets", one track of Irish jigs, hornpipes, airs, and strathspeys (all Scottish). I've really been working on trying to get the "Scottish sound", and my teacher Shelby Eicher backs me up on mandolin, mandola, mandocello, chin-cello and plays twin fiddles with me on the jigs. We've also got a bodhran and a pennywhistle player on the Irish jigs. The last track consists of "Amazing Grace", which a lot of people don't know was written by a Scotsman, and the "evolution" of Auld Lang Syne in 3 developmental stages as arranged by 3-time World Champion Scottish Fiddler (though an American who lives in Alexandria VA!), ending with the version now sung practically all around the world. I had a GREAT time making this CD and would like to do more Scottish CDs to keep our heritage alive! The layout for the liner notes cover and tray case feature pictures of all the instruments used on the CD and a picture with short bios on Shelby and me. The overall look is the Fraser Red tartan, so will make a great Christmas gift or stocking stuffer. The price is $12.50 and I will accept checks but cannot "promise" getting all the orders out before Christmas, though I'll try my best to do so! My mailing address is: Carleen Frazier-Adlam 6017 S. Atlanta Ave. Tulsa, OK 74105 Tel. (918) 749-7669 Email: <cfadlam@ionet.net> Cheers! And Happy Holidays to Everyone!!! Your cousin, Carleen

I believe my great grandfather's name was John Frazier. He married Mary Bass. They lived in Sumter county GA. I don't know anything about his parents nor Mary's parents. I have a book about the history of Sumter county and there are a lot of Bass in this book, but I am unable to find Mary, nor could I find anything about a John Frazier. Does anyone know anything about who his parents, grand parents, and siblings could be? Ginger

To: Carleen, John, Shelly In a previous post I sent information on David Frazier b. KY 1814. I neglected to post the previous generation of David's father, mother and his siblings. This family was sometimes patriotic in their naming patterns. Since John was born in PA, do you still think he would have been related to the Fraziers originating in VA? This is the updated version. John Frazier born 1777 in PA , d. 1863 Dearborn Co., IN. He married Clarissa ??? b. 1787 in NC d. 1864 Dearborn co., IN. Their children were: James b.1810 KY Do not know his wife. His children are: Alfred b. 1837 Clarissa b. 1839 Mary b. 1842 Sarah b. 1844 America b. 1847 (female) Daniel b. 1816 John D. b.1820 KY m. Nancy Knapp b. 1830 IN. their children are: Americus b. 1847 IN (male) Sarah J. b. 1851 IN Mary C. b. 1853 IN Alfred b. Aft. 1820 Elizabeth b. Bef. 1863 m. Unknown Pavinger Indiana b. Bef. 1863 m. William Headley Lucy b. Bef. 1863 m. Unknown Goyer William b. Bef. 1863 David Frazier born in KY and migrated to Dearborn Co., IN. where he married Eliz. Cornforth in 1843. Their children are born in Indiana and they are: John b. 1846 Jane b. 1847 Thomas Jefferson b.1849 Robert b. 1851 Sarah b. 1853 George W. b. 1855 (Our line) ('W' probably stands for Washington) James M. b. 1857 Minnie b. 1860 Lincoln b. 1865 Our line: George W. married Matilda Graham in 1878. Their children born in Indiana and they are: Glendora b. 1879 Winnie b. ? Irene Maud b. 1884 (Our line) Edgar Graham b. 1886 Holly b. 1889 ( this is a male) George b. 1892 Grace Mae b. 1896 Thurman Dewey b. 1898 Floyd M. b. 1902

Hi, Shelly. What time-frame would George have lived in? I have a George Frazier in my database, who was a son of Isaac Frazier (19 Nov 1872--22 Apr 1964) and Martha Osborne, but I don't have any dates, spouse name, or any other info on George. Isaac was born in Lincoln Co, KY, and died in Whitley Co, KY. This George had siblings named Laura, James, and Miriam Angeline "Minnie." Good luck! John John C. Carter Maternal surnames: Adams, Blankenship, Brewster, Cogan, Daugherty, Davis, Erpe, Frazier, Griffith, Ham, Harris, Holt, Lewallen, Ludlow, Muncy/Munsey, Murphy, Oaks, Richardson, Risner, Salyers, Scott, Skidmore, Smith, Spence, Thompson, Trammell, York. -----Original Message----- From: Mrouse33@aol.com [SMTP:Mrouse33@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2000 4:25 PM To: FRAZIER-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [FRAZIER] Looking for Frazier's I am looking for information on my great grandparents. All I know is that George Frazier married Effie Richard and they had 8 children. The names of the children are Otis, Jonah, Walter, Woodford, Arthur, Ellen, Sadie, and Martha. I do know they lived in Kentucky for some time. Shelly

I too have a George Frazier in my database. I don't think he is the George you are looking for. My George's father is David and he was born in KY. I am wondering if my Fraziers tie in at all with either of your Fraziers? This is the info I have: David Frazier born in KY and migrated to Dearborn Co., IN. where he married Eliz. Cornforth in 1843. Their children are born in Indiana and they are: John b. 1846 Jane b. 1847 Thomas b.1849 Robert b. 1851 Sarah b. 1853 George W. b. 1855 (Our line) James M. b. 1857 Minnie b. 1860 Lincoln b. 1865 Our line: George W. married Matilda Graham in 1878. Their children born in Indiana and they are: Glendora b. 1879 Winnie b. ? Irene Maud b. 1884 (Our line) Edgar Graham b. 1886 Holly b. 1889 ( this is a male) George b. 1892 Grace Mae b. 1896 Thurman Dewey b. 1898 Floyd M. b. 1902 Happy hunting! Joan

I am looking for information on my great grandparents. All I know is that George Frazier married Effie Richard and they had 8 children. The names of the children are Otis, Jonah, Walter, Woodford, Arthur, Ellen, Sadie, and Martha. I do know they lived in Kentucky for some time. Shelly

In a message dated 11/11/2000 12:16:28 AM Pacific Standard Time, cfadlam@ionet.net writes: << Do you know where I could find a roster of the Frasers who served in the 78th during those years ? And do you know if there is any record of what happened to each of the members; i.e. where served, rank, battles fought, wounded or killed, returned to Britain, missing, missing in action, or settled in Canada???? >> Bon jour, all ! I suggest you check out the several 78th Highlanders sites and use the query sections there for your question. Remember that all the 78th were not named FRASER - nor were all the officers - although many were, and it seems most came from areas of Fraser influence in Scotland. Some of the online articles on the background of the 78th provide much of this information. Another thought: the rootsweb Quebec list has a group interested in the 1750s-60s miitary who stayed in Canada - mostly the Hessian troops, but also English, I should think. Also - there is a rootsweb list for those interested in the Seven Years War (so-called French & Indian) with very knowledgeable people, some of whom focus on the individual combatants of that conflict. To subscribe, send an eMail to FRENCH-INDIAN-L-request@rootsweb.com - with only the word SUBSCRIBE in the message block and no subject line. [Same to subscribe to the QUEBEC list.] Last - try your search words on Google.com - you'll be amazed at what turns up. Thanks to those others who sent their appreciation for the addresses of Fraser-related sites. Cheers to all, Ginny Crawford California VCrawf@aol.com

Last in this series - here is the URL for a FRASER group in California - a marvelously informative site! http://www.fraserclan-cal.com/ Here is this group's list of variant spellings for FRASER: FRASER NAMES LIST: Frasher, Fraiser, Frasier, Fraze, Frazee, Frazer, Frazier, Frisale, Friseal, Frisell, Frizelle Cheers to all: Ginny Crawford

And now - ta dah! - here is the URL for Clan Fraser of Canada, containing (among other things) a wealth of information about Clan history in Scotland. http://www.canlinks.com/cdnclanfraser/ Ginny Crawford

And another terrific site: http://www.canlinks.com/cdnclanfraser/old78th.htm

And here is a marvelous site about the Battle of Quebec - witha link to extensive materials on Fraser's 78th Highlanders. http://www.digitalhistory.org/wolfe.html

FRAZIER listers - there's an excllent article on this site about the 78th's part in the French and Indian war - AND - its uniform. I understand there is a 78th re-enactment group, as well. http://www.militaryheritage.com/78thregt.htm Ginny Crawford

I am in search of Archibald Andrew FRAZER born circa 1873 son of Alexander FRAZER and Eliza MOOR. Immigrated to US - Ellis Island circa 1893 from Ireland originally don't know if that is departure port. Married in Ansonia Conneticut 8 June 1896 to Margaret aka Maggie Stietle(Stiles) b. Scotland - dtr.of Andrew Stietle (Stiles)and Jane Bone. This couple had three sons - Archibald Andrew FRAZER jr. b.New York City 19 June 1897, William FRAZER, and Alexander FRAZER b. 3 March 1904 in Braddock,PA. Maggie died circa 1920 and Archibald returned to homeland Ireland -last known address is Ballinameen. The only reference found to this place is Ballinameen Parish -small town consisting basically of three buildings a Catholic church, a grocery shop and naturally a pub in County Roscommon, Connaught Province. Basically that is all I have on them. Sons Alexander FRAZER apparently returned to Brooklyn, New York City. William FRAZER went to Washington,DC and apparently worked for the FBI, and Archibald FRAZER resided in Cleveland Ohio, married Goldie CROMER in 1923 and had 3 children- Margaret m.Joseph PATENAUDE, Archie Robert m. Beatrice PETCOFF (in Canada), and Sandra m. Thomas BRUM . Archibald immigrated to Canada in 1932 and returned to Cleveland in 1954. Lillian

I'm looking for Absalom Frazier who *magically* appeared in Randolph County IN in 1852 when he married Catherine Dill. Sometime between 1860 (after the census) and 1880 the family moved to Washington Courthouse, Washington Co. IA. Absalom died in 1893. Anybody have more info on this family? Christina __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one Place. http://shopping.yahoo.com/

In a message dated 11/9/2000 3:27:44 PM Pacific Standard Time, cfadlam@ionet.net writes: << One point I don't think has been brought out about this whole Frazier spelling issue is that the old-fashioned type of handwriting made the "s" look like a "z". The writing is beautiful and was almost what we would call "calligraphy" today, but many of the letters could easily have been mistaken by anyone trying to print out or even copy by hand! One of my TN cousins is a volunteer for the International Transcribers' Guild and "transcribes" old documents for RootsWeb. She, even with a lot of experience, says she has a hard time with some of the old handwriting, plus the age of the documents adds to the malformation of letters, etc. Just thought I'd throw one more "reason" for the differences in;) >> Thanks! Great post. Ginny Crawford

In a message dated 11/9/2000 9:22:23 AM Pacific Standard Time, kayey@arkansas.net writes: << In a lot of my older family documents it is noted that the mother and/or father could not read or could not write. In that case, the spelling was left up to whomever was doing the documenting, whether is was a census or tax document. When families arrived to this country and were registered as in port, the name they registered with was listed by the person documenting the information - if they couldn't understand them or spelled names based on the way they sounded - then that was your name. Also, lots of people chose to take the "Americanization" spelling of their last name as opposed to the spelling used in their country of origin - ie Schneider and Taylor, Schmidt - Smith - Smyth, Stern and Star - etc. Either way, my Frazier family has a documented spelling of Fraser - the Scottish spelling. However, now we spell it Frazier - >> Thanks for your confirmation of what I have been saying, Kay! And in the last 150 years, families could decide which of the spellings they wanted for themselves, as your family did from FRASER to FRAZIER. In my FRASER line, we have three generations of FRAZERs (1700s) and then to FRASER (1820s onward). After my own personal brainstorming on this issue, I think FRASER is the usual Scottish spelling - probably the phonetic result of Scottish-accented speakers dealing with the French FRAZIER. The FRASER name was then rendered a number of ways, including a return to FRAZIER. Just my take on it - not wishing to argue or challenge anyone else's notions. Thanks for writing. This is an interesting discussion! Ginny Crawford

My husband is descended from Colin Frazer who came to Newbury, Massachusetts in 1685 From Scotland.

Listers, I couldn't help but be amused by the debate on the spellings of Frasier. Ginny, did it occur to you that back in the 1500's or so when this name popped up from nowhere, that the person who recorded it could not read or write himself and it was recorded wrong in the beginning?????? So just because a name was recorded a certain way 4 or 500 years ago does not guarantee that it is the correct one. Like most of you, I don't let spelling get in my way. My great great grandfather, Andrew Frasier (family spelling for three generations) was listed on four census reports that I have found and they are Frazier, Frasier, and Frazer. Have received some civil war documents and Andrew himself spelled his own name two different ways and "it ain't the way we spell it"..... Ginny, Andrew's obit stated that he was born "near Quebec, Canada in 1811 and moved to NY as a small boy, settling in Ithaca. Does this mean anything to you? What confuses me is the comment "Near Quebec". SO is that NY or Canada. Could be either and as a result his birth remains hidden. His obit says born near Quebec. 1850 census says Ireland, then one says NY and then back to Ireland etc. Thanks, Harold