Nellie, I'll be quite honest with you. If your feelings are so easily hurt by the words of just a couple of people who quite obviously have problems of their own, then perhaps leaving the list is for the best. I think that is not the case however, if you stop, take a deep breath and consider the situation. You will encounter many people in these lists that have no couth, no manners, and apparently no decent upbringing. They are everywhere and they are unavoidable, they speak out of turn, and no not what they speak of. I visited your site, I had absolutely no problem either loading or navigating it. It is very tastefully done and contains a lot of information that will prove valuable to many people. I have received complaints before concerning my site, some of them very similar to the whining I just witnessed on this list. All I had to say to those people was, "This is the 21st century. Web pages just do not load all that well when you are dialed in at 14.4 kbaud using Windows 3.1." Take heart Nellie, you have done a fine job, and if they want to skip over the resource you have provided them with, out of the kindness of your heart, with your own time and effort, then let them skip over it. Add their names to your personal trash filter and never have to hear from them again. The complainers will always be complainers, but you have to be able to separate them from those who are trying to offer something constructive. I have found that when designing a website I have to take into consideration that some folks do not have the latest and greatest toys. I make my living working on and with computers, I keep about 1 generation behind the latest technology, so that when the new toys roll out this year, I will upgrade to what the top of the line right before the new stuff was rolled out. My mother on the other hand doesn't care about computers all that much, she just wants to be able to check her email, so she is using an older machine that functions fine for that, but when she tries to load my pages, even dialed in at 56k, things are slow. I keep that in mind when doing my work. No midi files to load, no graphics without warning, pictures are kept on separate pages. Perhaps these people who spoke out on the list were equipped like my mother and while trying to voice their opinions, perhaps they just did not stop to consider their words, and the impact they might have on your feelings. Perhaps however, they truly were just naturally crabby, mean-spirited individuals, with nothing better to do than spoil your generosity with their own miserable ness. I don't know, nor do I care personally, but I do care that you were offended by them no matter what their intentions. I do care that their words could deny the community a person who takes the time to put forth any effort, be it large or small, that freely benefits others. The decision to stay or go is your own, but remember, your work is your own to be proud of, and you should never let the words of one or two out of the hundreds deter you in your attempts to do what you see is right and helpful. Jim Williamson Williamson, Kinsella, Pace, Marth www.williamson-clan.com -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 8:07 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [FOX] Goodbye Well, I must say that there seem to be a few mean-spirited folks on this list and I have been a list member for a long time. I work hard on my site and manage 17 lists at Rootsweb including 17 message boards. Not to mention that I manage a NEGenWeb Project county site and two sites for local genealogical and historical societies. I guess I will be unsubscribing from this list since I am not about to put up with someone "trashing" my hard work and long hours put into these sites. I am truly saddened by such negative words........... Rooting in the past, Kathie The Lord prefers common-looking people. That is why he makes so many of them. ~Abe Lincoln ==== FOX Mailing List ==== Archives for the FOX-L can be seen at http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl. Now if you: 1. Have to unsubscribe for a period of time, you can view messages that you missed by going to the archives. 2. A new subscriber can view messages that were posted previous to their subscribing to the list. 3. If you accidently delete a message you can go to the archives and retrieve and/or view the message. Questions? Contact Terry at [email protected] Happy Huntin'! ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237