Fran, The probabilty of qualifying for DAR through Richard or Mark is low. If he was alive, which is doubtful, Mark is too old b. abt 1703. We know from Richard Senior's will that he died in 1770/71. That excludes him. The only possibility rests with Richard Jr. in our direct line. However, I believe you can qualify for DAR through brothers of direct ancestors. So you have more options here if DAR registration is your immediate goal. Maybe these will lead to something http://grc.dar.org/dar/darnet/grc/GRC.cfm FOWLER, Richard NC s1 v75 39 FOWLER, William NC s1 v75 39 Kirk ----- Original Message ----- From: Fran Higgins To: mrfowler Cc: FOWLER-L@rootsweb.com ; Steve Fowler ; David S.(Fowler) Payne Sent: Friday, October 31, 2003 5:19 AM Subject: Granville County, North Carolina to Hopkins County, Kentucky Looking for references to John Fowler married to Bethea (Bethiann-Bethiah) Tippett (Tipit - Tippitt) in Granville County, North Carolina. His son, Thomas T. Fowler, married Jane Jones in Granville Co., NC as well. Line goes: Thomas T. x Jane Jones < John Fowler x Bethia Tippett < to Richard (Jr.) x Unknown ?? < to Richard (Sr.) x Grace Unknown?? < Mark x Marjory Unknown < Godfrey x Susannah Archer ?? < John x Mary Unknown < Rev. Christopher x Elizabeth Burgess. This is not proven...just speculation. The two Richards are my Nemisis as I believe that the Richard (Sr.) was reasonably wealthy and the Richard (Jr.) squandered it all away. The John became an apprentice or something as his father was said to have indentured them. I probably have my Stories/rumors mixed-up on these Fowlers; as my other computer lost my Family Tree Maker information, notes, and e-mail addresses. I am trying to Document either Richard and Mark for D.A.R. purposes. What Books have references to ANY of these people? As Quakers and against war/fighting; I believe they may have taken Oaths, not as militia but to supply and support the troups with food, clothing, etc. Fran Higgins DLPUB@EROLS.COM