RE: Robert & Charles Ford My main computer is down right now but I have a little information. I searched and found a file (parts from Donald Ford, I believe) - that is a descendent list from Austin Ford and includes Robert Newton Ford. If you would like this I could send it in another post as it is long (about six pages in Word) and I must remove the living generation. As I don't have access to my genealogy information the descendent list does not include any source material but could be a jumping off place to search. I have an ancestor who is related to the Ford brothers and I have found a little information on the brothers - some by Googling their names and there are also several paperback books mentioning them. I did not find specific genealogy sites but these might be interesting: http://www.consensus.net/ford_brothers.html Picture of Bob Ford http://www.absoluteastronomy.com/reference/jesse_james About half way down the page is the short shooting reference http://www.islandnet.com/~the-gang/bio.htm I would normally send the following information as an attachment but don't think I can on Rootsweb. Sorry it's so long. Some may duplicates of above sites. I have both Ford and Munkers/Monkers ancestors. My ancestor Ann Ford who is related to the Ford brothers and I have found a little information on the brothers - some by googling their names and there are also several paperback books mentioning them. I did not find specific genealogy sites but these might be interesting: http://www.consensus.net/ford_brothers.html Picture of Bob Ford http://www.islandnet.com/~the-gang/bio.htm http://www.civilwarstlouis.com/History/jamesgangoutlaws.htm (photos or drawings of both) http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/mo/clay/queries.htm ******************************* Also from Rootsweb.com message dated Nov 7, 2005 by Donald Ford: [email protected] I have completed a great deal of research on the Ford family. Austin & Jane Ford had 10 children and 65 grandchildren that I know of. Austin was killed in Clarke Co., MO in July 1841. His oldest son , James Thomas Ford had 11 children and two of them were Robert Newton Ford & Charles Wilson Ford, who shot Jesse James. If interested in more info contact me directly. I have over 90 pictures of gravestone of descdentants of Austin Ford, but still looking for his parents, etc. ************************************* From my (Deena Mault) records as posted by Jim Marable (if you continue down in time to individuals born in the 1920's generation there are errors in his upload - marriage and death dates either transposed or in error). In item 3 below Ann is the relative of the Ford brothers. http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:571419&id=I022 ID: I022 Name: Ann M FORD Sex: F Birth: 6 MAR 1818 in ,Faquier,Virginia Death: 10 JAN 1900 in Kearney,Clay,Missouri Burial: Bethel Cemetery (Assume Missouri) Note: 1) Information from genealogical notes from the Liberty Tribune 1894 - 1900 Volume VII 2) Jan 19, 1900 Liberty Tribune - Excelsior Springs - Mrs Ann Baldwin relict of Benjamin Baldwin died at her son's, Lafe. Baldwin, on the 11th , age 83 years. Buried Bethel Cemetery. 3) February 2, 1900 - Death of Mrs Ann Baldwin - Parkville Gazette - "Ann Ford was born in Faquier County, Virginia, 6 March 1818 and died at the home of her son, five miles southeast f Kearney, Clay county, 10 January 1900. She was married to Benjamin Baldwin in Clark County, Missouri about 1842. Member of Old Baptist Church. Buried at Bethel. Left Children. Signed J.A.Baldwin. Notes 1,2,& 3 above: source: Kelly O'Kelley, Jean Schneider Nelson, ( given to me by Deena Mault 2/2000) ******************************* Other items: BOOKS written on subject by: Ron Hansen, Marley Brant, Sybil Montana Marley Brant's book 'Jesse James the Man and the Myth' (on page 217/219 he writes that Charlie Ford's older sister was Martha Bolton. Ron Hansen's book 'The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford' I just found this by googling Robert Newton Ford at http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/mo/clay/misc/96-97que.txt 4-16-1997 Rick and Valerie Gildehaus Rick and Valerie Gildehaus Looking for information on Sophronia Ann FORD who was married in 188 in Clay county to Greenberry HILL. Was she the daughter of William FORD listed in the 1840 Clay county census? Both Sophronia and Greenberry were deceased by 1843 and their four children went to live with their grandfather John Hill in Buchanan county Mo. 6-1-1997 Susan Bradford [email protected] Seeking info about E. (Ephraim?) D. Mury (Murray/Murry) who lived in Liberty township, clay county, in 1850. 11-13-1997 unknown [email protected] I am searching for any records (birth, death, wills, property, marriages, children, parents, census) concerning the following: Tilitha Ford Windoffer; children: James Ray Windoffer/ Elsa Windoffer/Vada Windoffer, who was their father. Talitha Ford; brothers were Robert Newton Ford/ Charles Ford/and sister Martha Ford Bolton J. T. Ford; children, Talitha/Robert/Charles/Martha James Ray Windoffer, any record he existed would be nice, supposed to be my grandfather. I was told the Ford brothers (Charles and Robert) were cousins to as well as murders of Jessee James. Proof of that would be good also. **************************** From another site I googled: http://www.kansasheritage.org/families/james.html "Robert Newton Ford: Member of the James gang. Plotted to kill Jesse James, which Robert did 3 April 1882 at St. Joseph, MO. Trying to cash in on the notoriety, Ford bought a saloon in Las Vegas, New Mexico. The venture failed. Ed O'Kelly shot and killed Robert Ford 8 June 1892 with a shotgun in a saloon Ford owned in Creede, Colorado. Ford was first buried in Colorado, but was later removed to the family plot in Richmond, MO." Another Site: http://www.rosecity.net/trains/james_gang_members.html James "Windy Jim" Robert Cummins/Cummings was involved in the train robberies at Winston and Blue Cut, Missouri. He lived near Kearney and was known as a horse thief. "Windy Jim" rode with Quantrill, most often assigned to Quantrill's lieutenant, "Bloody" Bill Anderson. Jim may have been in on the plot to kill Jesse James, since his sister, Artella Cummins, married Robert Ford, who actually did kill Jesse James. Their son, Albert Ford, was his nephew. "Windy Jim" died at the Confederate Soldier's Home at Higginsville, Missouri in 1928 or 1929. The Soldier's Home has been razed, but the cemetery is still in existence. Robert Newton Ford shot and killed Jesse James in the back while Jesse was hanging a picture on April 3, 1882 in Jesse's home at St. Joseph, Missouri. Trying to cash in on the notoriety of being the person who killed Jesse James, Ford bought a saloon in Las Vegas, New Mexico. Ed O'Kelly shot and killed Robert Ford on June 8, 1892 with a shotgun in a saloon Ford owned in Creede, Colorado. Ford was first buried in Colorado, but was later removed to the family plot in Richmond, Missouri. Charlie Ford was an accomplice to the murder of Jesse James. He committed suicide in November of 1882.