Here are my Forbeses and the one I'm looking for: Harry George Newman Jr. [me!] Harry G. Newman Sr. Dorothy Ellen Greene William Benjamin Newman Jesse Fidelia Forbes Lorenzo D. Forbes, b. 1829 Galen, Wayne co., NC (it wasn't Wayne then) Lydia Stacey, b.1833, NY Charles Forbes, Jr. b. ca. 1805, Galen, Wayne co., NY Elizabeth, b. ca. 1800, Mass. Charles Forbes, Sr., b. ca. 1775 Hannah, b. ca. 1775 I don't where Charles Sr. was born or exactly when. I suspect Massachusetts or Scotland. He had a son, Alexander, who went back to Scotland. Any clues appreciated. Harry Newman Piper, St. Andrew's Pipes and Drums of Central Illinois. Harry G. Newman