Last week, here in Las Vegas, five totally sober teen girls were in a horrendous wreck. They were going 60 mph in a 45 mph zone rushing back to school on lunch hour. There was a curve max 45 mph. She did not slow, nor was she licensed, or experienced. However, her father did allow her to drive whenever she wished. The car spun and was sheared totally in half by a pole. Front seat passenger was killed outright. The driver was on life support for 3 days, then died. One girl lost a leg besides other critical injuries. The last two have broken arms, legs, and pelvises. They were 15 to 17. They were not druggies. Just lovely, typical girls. One would have graduated soon, the other hoped to become a model. Their services were yesterday. There is a reason insurance rates are high for kids. They have no practical experience and don't use their heads. Drinking makes it just that much more horrifying. If you can't reason with the drunk (and you can't) take their keys. Pat, grateful recovering alcoholic Las Vegas