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    1. [FOLKLORE FAMILY] Sage Cornbread
    2. Kath
    3. ---------------->> Sage Cornbread <<----------------- Southerners love their cornbread and are reluctant to mess with its perfection. That is, except for this classic combination of the sage and corn flavors. Cornbread combines well with soups and stews, or as a small side to salads. This cornbread is wonderful to serve on Thanksgiving to compliment your turkey stuffing. 1 cup flour 2 tablespoons sugar 1 tablespoon baking powder 1 teaspoon salt 3 teaspoons rubbed sage 1 1/4 cup yellow cornmeal 1 egg 1 cup milk 1/4 cup butter, melted Preheat oven to 425 degrees F. In a mixing bowl combine flour, sugar, baking powder, salt, and sage. Stir in cornmeal by hand. Add egg, milk, and melted butter and beat with a mixer until the batter is thick and smooth. Pour into a greased 9" square baking pan. Bake 20 minutes or until bread shrinks slightly from the pan.

    05/21/2001 09:28:38
    1. [FOLKLORE FAMILY] thoughts...
    2. Kath
    3. "...gardens, like mistresses cannot be neglected. They demand unremitting attention, endless flattery, and a constant flow of cash." Beverly Nichols

    05/21/2001 09:28:25
    1. Re: [FOLKLORE FAMILY] Sorry!!
    2. Vicki Ashton
    3. Oh goodie!! But I can't food fight right now -- I'm off to the sporting goods store to get cleats, mitt, pants, socks, and all those cool baseball things!! BTW -- We went to an 1800s baseball game yesterday at the Hayes Presidential Center. It was so cool!! I loved it. But even more fun was the Civil War Encampment we went to the day before that. Now I'm gonna TRY to make one of those big Scarlett hoop dresses for my daughter and me to wear when we go again! Should be so fun!!!! bye -- vicki > You didn't start anything Vicki. > {{{{{{{{{Vicki}}}}}}}}} > and as far as I know, nuthin' is started. <G> > I'm keeping that Food Fight offer in mind though. <G> :-) > hugs, > kath

    05/21/2001 08:48:58
    1. [FOLKLORE FAMILY] Sorry!!
    2. Vicki Ashton
    3. Sorry!! I didn't mean to start anything! (At least not like that!! A good food fight -- yes!) I'm off to the corner :-( Move over missi, here i come..... Vicki > I scanned the gif file and it was clean (harmless) > Still, please everybody, Don't Open ANY Attachments that come through the > list.

    05/21/2001 08:07:42
    1. Re: [FOLKLORE FAMILY] Possible Virus
    2. Vicki Ashton
    3. I did!! I thought only .exe and .vbs files like that were the virus carriers!! Well, I'm off the the de-buggers!! Thanks Bill! vicki BTW -- Got your book and it is great!!!! I love it!!!! > Vicki: > > The most of the .gif files if not all of them are a rascally virus. Some of > these things disguise themselves to appear that they came through the list. > I believe I would run Norton or something to see if you are clean. > > I hope you didn't open it. > > Bill Covey > Author of Watson Is Where It Wuz > http://billcovey.50megs.com >

    05/21/2001 07:53:45
    1. [FOLKLORE FAMILY] Karie Re: Returned mail
    2. Kath
    3. Karie, your mail is bouncing sweetie. ??? Kath > ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- > kazeej@excite.com > (reason: 555 Invalid extension (BODY=8BITMIME)) >

    05/21/2001 07:44:40
    1. RE: [FOLKLORE FAMILY] Another from my brother
    2. Well, I've thunk and I've thunk and I just can't come up with what movie Jimmy Stewart played a bad guy in... you gonna tell us? *grin* pat :@) <<Hi Pat. :-) Thank you for these stories. I enjoyed them very much. I'm a David Niven fan, and have several of his books. (I recommend them) I was so sad to learn he was ill and dying. : ( I'm a Jimmy Stewart fan too. What a great guy~! :-) I only saw him play a bad guy once. Do you know the name of the movie that was in? :-) (little trivia question) <heehee> :-) Thanks again, and thank you to your brother. :-) ( Forwarded these to John.) Kath>>

    05/21/2001 07:42:44
    1. RE: [FOLKLORE FAMILY] Welcome Back Lala~! :-)
    2. Welcome back Lala~!! I am so proud (and envious) of you weight lose. What's your secret? Hugs, pat :@) <<Hi everyone !! Got my computer fixed finally. Really I got a new one!! I am going on vacation on Monday and will be gone for the week gonna go see Ronnie. Ive lost a hundred and thirty pounds !! I FEEL LIKE IN WALKING ON AIR.! Its wonderful not to hurt any more.\ so how's everyone doing? how's the grans?\ ill be going to Pam's tonight ill check in on you all again miss you guys lala>>

    05/21/2001 07:41:42
    1. [FOLKLORE FAMILY] 3linda3 You're bouncing
    2. Kath
    3. Hi your email is bouncing. kath

    05/21/2001 07:41:35
    1. [FOLKLORE FAMILY] School punished 8th-grader for taking knife from suicidal friend
    2. Vicki Ashton
    3. This will just make you ssssssoooooooo infuriated!!! It did me anyway! Vicki ************************************************************************************************ Just one more example of the brainlessness of "zero tolerance." Boy hero appeals suspension School punished 8th-grader for taking knife from suicidal friend ----------------------------------------------------------------------- By Julie Foster © 2001 WorldNetDaily.com A junior-high boy who prevented a friend from slitting her wrists by taking away her knife is fighting his automatic suspension from school for possessing a weapon. Ben Ratner and his mother, Beth Haney, made their appeal to the 4th Circuit Court of Appeals in Virginia last week, saying a lower court erred in dismissing the case. In October 1999, Ratner, an eighth-grader from Loudoun County, Va., received a note in class from a friend who said she was contemplating suicide and had brought a knife to school in her binder. Ratner was familiar with the girl's personal troubles and knew she had been hospitalized for psychiatric problems. When he asked for the knife, the girl refused, so Ratner took the binder from her and locked it in his locker. He intended to take the knife home to his mother, a nurse, who could determine an appropriate course of action. School officials found out about the knife and asked Ratner if he had it. The boy said he did and gave the knife to Fanny Kellogg, a dean at Blue Ridge Middle School, upon Kellogg's request. Though Kellogg said she understood the boy's reasons for taking the knife and stated her belief that he was not a threat to anyone, school officials still proceeded to suspend the boy for 10 days. The suspension was quickly amended to be "indefinite," pending review by the school board, which decided the boy should remain out of school for four months. Ratner had believed subjecting his friend to school authorities would be too much pressure for the girl, and he was right. The Sunday following the incident, the girl slit her wrists. Her suicide attempt, however, was unsuccessful. Although officials for the Loudoun County Public Schools also acknowledged that Ben's actions were "noble" and "admirable" and admitted that he posed no threat to himself or others, they nevertheless upheld the long-term suspension, which lasted from Oct. 8, 1999, until Jan. 25, 2000. Ratner and Haney secured legal counsel through the Rutherford Institute, which appealed the long-term suspension to the school board in December 1999, but the board upheld the suspension. That decision prompted Ratner's lawsuit against the school district for violation of his civil rights and challenging the district's "zero-tolerance" policy on its face. The policy states in part, "No student shall possess any weapon for any reason while under school control or supervision. The term weapon is intended to be construed broadly to cover and include any instrument which could injure, harm or endanger the physical well-being of another person." Rutherford Institute Chief Litigation Counsel Steven H. Aden, who represented Ratner and Haney in court, claims the zero-tolerance policy is too broad. "Strict adherence to this policy would prohibit the possession of a sharpened pencil, pen, ruler, compass or scissors. If intent is not to be considered, then every student in the Loudoun County Schools is in violation of school policy (as are most of the teachers) for using all the normal tools employed in a learning environment," Aden wrote in his appeal. Speaking to WorldNetDaily, Aden emphasized the personal impact the policy had on Ratner, who was denied his right to be heard, he said. "When we feel the school has to suspend a student for technically possessing a knife even though he saved a friend's life, we've forgotten the human element. We've also accepted trampling on the rights and feelings of young people in order to force them to stay in line. I'm very concerned about that," he remarked. Many school have established zero-tolerance policies for various actions, including drug use or possession, violence or threats of violence and weapons possession. But effort to make schools safe has backfired in many cases. As reported by WND, there are numerous cases of "good" kids being punished as a result of the policies intended to weed out "bad seeds." The Rutherford Institute hopes to bring common sense back to discussions about school safety. "I think the path to safety in our schools is understanding where students are coming from and hearing them out -- not kicking them out of school for technical violations of draconian zero-tolerance policies," said Aden. "We've gone down the wrong road since Columbine." Indeed, more than 87,000 students were expelled nationwide in the 1997-98 school year, the latest statistics available from the Office for Civil Rights, a part of the U.S. Department of Education. There were more than 3.1 million children suspended that year, up from 1.7 million in the 1974-75 school year and 2.4 million in 1991-92. "School officials who enforce 'zero-tolerance' policies without regard for the individual student's motives are only reinforcing intolerance in our schoolchildren," said John W. Whitehead, president of the Rutherford Institute. "We hope that the federal appeals court will intervene and restore a sense of justice and fair play that Loudoun County denied Ben Ratner and his family." Ratner, who was home-schooled by a tutor during his suspension, is asking that his permanent record be expunged and that he be compensated for tutorial costs. Attorney John Easton, who represents the school district in the case, was not available for comment, though a secretary said, "He probably wouldn't have a comment anyway." From: http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=22890

    05/21/2001 07:41:05
    1. [FOLKLORE FAMILY] Possible Virus
    2. Billy Covey
    3. Kath: Now I'm confused. Just how did you scan the .gif file that Vicki received? She didn't send the attachment to this list. I'm just wondering how you scanned the .gif file. Is there something I should know. I know she didn't send it to me or the list as nothing came across with an attachment. Thanks. Bill Covey Author of Watson Is Where It Wuz http://billcovey.50megs.com

    05/21/2001 07:36:53
    1. Re: [FOLKLORE FAMILY] Ask Martha Stone trough look-alikes add a rustic beauty to your home, garden
    2. Vicki Ashton
    3. Kaffie -- When I got this it had an attachment!!! It was just a .gif file so I opened it -- it was just an "S"!! Wonder how that got through rootsweb! You ain't passin' no bugs are ya?!?!? lol vicki > Stone trough look-alikes add a rustic beauty to your home, garden > >

    05/21/2001 07:34:34
    1. Re: [FOLKLORE FAMILY] Possible Virus
    2. Kath
    3. Thank you thank you Pat~! :-) Hugs, Kath > I received it as an attachment also. It must have been a rootsweb hiccup > because there were 2 attachments, one was an 's' gif and the other was the > footer as a txt file. Both were clean, just a rootsweb glitch. As for the > reason Bill didn't receive it, depends on what program he's using and how > it's set up. > pat :@) > > > Kath: > > Now I'm confused. Just how did you scan the .gif file that Vicki received? > She didn't send the attachment to this list. I'm just wondering how you > scanned the .gif file. Is there something I should know. > > I know she didn't send it to me or the list as nothing came across with an > attachment. > > Thanks. > > Bill Covey

    05/21/2001 07:26:22
    1. [FOLKLORE FAMILY] Gif
    2. Billy Covey
    3. Vicki: You are not starting anything with me. I pass the information along. If people don't want the information that's just fine with me. I'll stop sending it. Bill Covey Author of Watson Is Where It Wuz http://billcovey.50megs.com

    05/21/2001 07:24:45
    1. Re: [FOLKLORE FAMILY] Possible Virus
    2. Billy Covey
    3. Vicki: Maybe I'm wrong but it is better for you to be safe than sorry. Please give me a little two or three sentence comment on the book. Thanks. Bill Covey Author of Watson Is Where It Wuz http://billcovey.50megs.com

    05/21/2001 07:21:57
    1. Re: [FOLKLORE FAMILY] Possible Virus
    2. Billy Covey
    3. Kath: I think so. It seems that I recall getting a bunch that changed titles but retained .gif. I don't recall which virus it was. At any rate you can't receive attachment on rootsweb. It copies itself in such a way that it appears that way. At least that is what I am told. Bill Covey Author of Watson Is Where It Wuz http://billcovey.50megs.com

    05/21/2001 07:20:33
    1. Re: [FOLKLORE FAMILY] Ask Martha Stone trough look-alikes add a rustic beauty to your home, garden
    2. Elsie Davis
    3. LOL Vicki, Kath wouldn't do such a thing. <g> However, I'm not sure how it did get past Rootsweb. As long as I have been on their different lists, this is the first one that I have ever seen come through. Weird, Love ya, Elsie At 01:34 PM 5/21/01 -0400, you wrote: >Kaffie -- When I got this it had an attachment!!! It was just a .gif file >so I opened it -- it was just an "S"!! Wonder how that got through >rootsweb! You ain't passin' no bugs are ya?!?!? lol vicki > > > > > > Stone trough look-alikes add a rustic beauty to your home, garden > >

    05/21/2001 07:16:10
    1. [FOLKLORE FAMILY] Possible Virus
    2. Billy Covey
    3. Vicki: The most of the .gif files if not all of them are a rascally virus. Some of these things disguise themselves to appear that they came through the list. I believe I would run Norton or something to see if you are clean. I hope you didn't open it. Bill Covey Author of Watson Is Where It Wuz http://billcovey.50megs.com

    05/21/2001 06:49:21
    1. Re: [FOLKLORE FAMILY] The Hill's honeymoon
    2. Elsie Davis
    3. LOL, I sure fell for this one. It's great. Elsie At 09:01 AM 5/21/01 -0400, you wrote: >(Don't page down unless you are sure you dare...) > >Are you sure you want to know? > >"Master, Master! . . . The Hills are alive with the sound of music!"

    05/21/2001 06:36:53
    1. Re: [FOLKLORE FAMILY] Gif
    2. Kath
    3. Sorry Bill, I didn't realize the attachment didn't go thru to you and you had no way to check it. We realize now that you were just trying to save us all some grief. Hugs, Kath > Vicki: > > You are not starting anything with me. I pass the information along. If > people don't want the information that's just fine with me. I'll stop > sending it. > > Bill Covey > Author of Watson Is Where It Wuz > http://billcovey.50megs.com >

    05/21/2001 06:27:26