Yep, after 100 years, but there are very few that old. One problem of your being n-o-k is proving it without the very records you seek. and I'm not sure how far n-o-k status can be extended. Anyone else know? --Brian Michaels ********************************************************* BOBBYE wrote: > > I have another question. If there are no known living relatives > wouldn't I be next of kin on the Williams family? Are they not giving > out records after a certain year? > -----Original Message----- > From: Brian E. Michaels <michaels_b@popmail.firn.edu> > To: BOBBYE <bobbye@microsped.com> > Cc: FLORIDA-L@rootsweb.com <FLORIDA-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: Monday, March 29, 1999 1:47 PM > Subject: Re: Williams Death records in Florida > > >Bobbye, yes, it's a rough one, but by no means impossible! > > > >By the way, there is a fairly new printed index to the 1885 Florida > >STATE census. Write a large FL library like JAX or Miami and ask them > to > >xerox all Williams entries for you. > >Then do follow up with the Soundex index to 1900 (and the later > ones), > >being sure to check for Fletcher and for Hannah, in case he was so > >inconsiderate as to die young. They are STATEWIDE indexes and you > might > >pick up your folks, regardless of where they might have been > residing. > > > >I'll subside, now. Again, good luck! > > > >--Brian > >******************************************************************** > >BOBBYE wrote: > >> > >> I don't have any census areocrds or any thing from Fl. in my local > >> library. Guess I will have to rent them from Nara a little at a > time > >> and look. Sure wish they weren't so hard to find. I have > interviewed > >> every living Williams relative I have found and none of them know > any > >> thing beyond William Norman Williams my gg grand father. The only > info > >> on Flethcer was that he moved to Florida and his wife's name was > >> Hannah. Not much to start with. > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Brian E. Michaels <michaels_b@popmail.firn.edu> > >> To: BOBBYE <bobbye@microsped.com> > >> Cc: FLORIDA-L@rootsweb.com <FLORIDA-L@rootsweb.com> > >> Date: Monday, March 29, 1999 11:33 AM > >> Subject: Re: Williams Death records in Florida > >> > >> >Bobbye, I checked, but nothing good resulted, I regret to report. > >> > > >> >In the 1877-1916 there were 18 James Williamses, with no way to > >> >distinguish among them except date and place of death. Age and > >> >birthplace are not part of the index. > >> > > >> >There was no Fletcher at all in 1877-1916. There was one bl. male > >> >Fletcher Williams, d. DeSoto Co, 1922. > >> > > >> >There were 3 Hannahs, all black females in Jax., DeSoto County, > and > >> >Jefferson Co--2 died in 1905, 1 in 1914. > >> > > >> >There were 34 Jameses in the 1917-22 alone, along with 80 > Williamses > >> >w/no first name given. > >> > > >> >One Walter (bl. male) died Jax 1916; one Walter T. (wh. male) d > >> Escambia > >> >Co. d. 1916. > >> > > >> >My fears were realized; sorry. > >> > > >> >If I were you, I'd check the indexed US censuses for Florida in > 1900, > >> >1910, and 1920--and the unindexed state census for 1935--to see if > I > >> >couldn't come up with some y closer estimates and parameters. > >> > > >> >FYI: Florida began requiring death certificates after 1899, but > >> records > >> >before 1917 are really spotty and some people don't have records > even > >> >into the 1930s. Marriage records date back to territorial days in > the > >> >counties; central registration of marriages and annulments and > >> divorces > >> >began 6 June 1927. Prior to that, the records are found only in > the > >> >several counties. > >> > > >> >Good luck! > >> > > >> >--Brian > >> >********************************************** > >> > > >> >BOBBYE wrote: > >> >> > >> >> Brian this is the best that I can do: > >> >> On the 1880 census in Sumter Col . Fletcher was 48 . I made a > >> mistake > >> >> on his date of birth. He would have been born @ 1832. So I am > >> guessing > >> >> he may have lived 20 to 25 years or more. That would be in the > >> early > >> >> 1900's for a death date. Hannah may have followed behind that. I > >> would > >> >> check up through 1910 to be safe. > >> >> Wilson C. was already 76 so he may have died before 1900. > >> >> > >> >> I would add about 50 years or so to the other boys to give a > wide > >> >> margin on them. > >> >> I am sorry that I can't be more specific but it is really hard > to > >> >> trace these people. > >> >> Maybe some of them could be found in some cemetery records. > >> >> I am not familiar with when Fl. started keeping marriage and > death > >> >> records. > >> >> Thanks, > >> >> Bobbye > >> >> -----Original Message----- > >> >> From: Brian E. Michaels <michaels_b@popmail.firn.edu> > >> >> To: BOBBYE <bobbye@microsped.com> > >> >> Cc: FLORIDA-L@rootsweb.com <FLORIDA-L@rootsweb.com> > >> >> Date: Sunday, March 28, 1999 1:36 PM > >> >> Subject: Re: Williams Death records in Florida > >> >> > >> >> >Bobbye, I'll be happy to check the index for you. > Unfortunately, > >> >> though, > >> >> >I'll need some close estimates of death dates. The index is > mostly > >> >> year > >> >> >by year and on microfiche. And since Williams is one of the top > >> ten > >> >> US > >> >> >surnames by frequency, there'll be bunches of each of > them--more > >> than > >> >> >one might reasonably expect to be able to sort out. > >> >> > > >> >> >If you can give me some better parameters, I'll do my best. > >> >> > > >> >> >Good luck! > >> >> > > >> >> >--Brian Michaels (Palatka, FL) > >> >> >*************************************************************** > >> >> >BOBBYE wrote: > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Would some some please look on the Fl. death index for death > >> dates > >> >> of > >> >> >> : > >> >> >> Fletcher Williams born in Al. @ 1823 > >> >> >> Hannah Williams born @ in Ga. about 1839 > >> >> >> Wilson C. Williams born Ga. @1803-4 > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Fletcher Williams born Fl. @1870-71 > >> >> >> James Williams born Fl. @ 1876-77 > >> >> >> Walter william born Fl. @ 1870-71 > >> >> >> Any help greatly appreciated. I am a long way from Florida. > >> >> >> Bobbye > >> >> > > >> > > >