I'm sorry to have to say this, Sue... but what you gave us to find the Library's THOR telnet link is only part of a URL... with important stuff left off of both ends. One has to go in somewhat of a loop to find THOR using what you gave us. Plus... I had to cut and paste the partial URL into my web browser's "location window" to start the loop, because of the "http://" being left out. Had you included the "http://" part of the URL in your e-mail, all I would have had to do to go to the location would have been to point and click on it in the body of your e-mail message. The full and correct URL is: http://scfn.thpl.lib.fl.us/thpl/erc/thor/thor.htm But one thing for sure is that I half-remembered "..... y Garcia" backwards. The correct name of the company I was thinking of was "Garcia y Vega". Now the only thing we need to know is what "brands" of cigars the company produced, i.e. whether or not one was Hav-a-Tampa. I guess I had a pretty fair recollection of the name of a company that manufactured a product that I never used and haven't seen for probably 40 years... <G> RW > The Tampa Hillsborough County Libry Homepage url is > > scfn.thpl.lib.fl.us > > You can telnet to Thor, the database from there. > > Sue Wooten