Hi everyone, I've been on the Florida list for quite awhile, and haven't seen a "Roll Call", with names and "places". Let's all post, and see if we know someone, who knows someone! (I know I need help! I'm trying to figure out how ALL of my relatives, fit into that one spaceship, prior to landing in Florida!) Ha! I don't even have different counties to search, once my family beamed down, they stayed in one place. And once they were here, I think they were placed in the Witness Protection and went into hiding! All of my family members appeared to arrive in Florida, between 1890 and 1900. They have all been here in Seminole County. At their time of arrival, it was still Orange County, and Seminole was formed in (I think) 1913. Here goes: RIGNEY --TN>OK>Florida KEETON--TN>OK>Florida WOODCOCK--NC>Florida SIMMONS--NC?>Florida KINLAW--NC>Florida EDWARDS--NC>Florida KENNEDY--TN>Florida (my big brick wall) HATCH--?>Florida GLEASON--?>Florida (bigger, thicker, taller brick wall) COLLINS--?>Florida MUFFLEY--?>Florida Thanks everyone! Christine Kinlaw Best, Sanford, FL

Hi, Debby, You should be able to obtain a copy of the license by writing the Polk County Clerk of Circuit Court, Bartow, FL 33830. I suggest you include a stamped, self-addressed envelope and include a check for $5 to apply toward any fees. Give the names of the people involved and the date you think they married. As for a census, your library or Family History Center should be able to order in the 1910 Polk County, FL census. Better yet, you could check the 1910 FL Soundex at the FHC and locate your people, then you'd know which roll of film you need. Kathleen Marsh kmarsh@innet.com -----Original Message----- From: DLantz4089@aol.com <DLantz4089@aol.com> I am trying to find a marriage license or census report on Alonzo, Lonzo or Lon Davis to Frankie Lilly Milam. Family information says they married in Bartow, Polk Co, FL on June 06, 1906.

Here are my Florida names: Levi HARRIS married Dorothy BOZEMAN on Dec 29 1831in Jefferson County. Dorothy was born about 808 in Bladen county NC. I am aware of one child, Tamzy HARRIS. Somewhere an M V Harris shows up, a year younger that Tamzy, but disappears. Need dates of birth and death on Levi and Dorothy. William James McNEAL, born Sept 5 1828 died March 21 1868 in Bluff Spring, Escambia County Fl. Married Susan CARDWELL ( born 1836 died 1915 ) in Bluff Spring. W.J. McNeal is listed as a Mason and having served in the CSA. My grandmother, Isabel (Belle) McNeal married Sylvester Medlock and lived out her life in Monroe County AL. Did Isabel MCNEAL have brothers and sisters and if so, who were they ? Who were the parents of W J MCNEAL AND SUSAN CARDWELL / Any help appreciated . Emma in NM

Here you go. Go to the RootsWeb homepage. There you will find a link to USGenWeb because RootsWeb is the sponsor of The USGenWeb Project. Book mark the site if you have Netscape Navigator or add the site to your favorites list if you have Microsoft Internet Explorer. When you link to USGenWeb, click on the link that says Map, then click on the Georgia link. Aloha; Debbie Davis RootsWeb: http://www.rootsweb.com/ The USGenWeb Project: http://www.usgenweb.org/ -----Original Message----- From: William Brown <willbees@mediaone.net> To: FLORIDA-L@rootsweb.com <FLORIDA-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Monday, March 29, 1999 4:40 PM Subject: John Brown >First, is there a Georgia-l Rootsweb list? I guess I should post this >vague request there also if one exists. >All you listers with John Browns - mine was born in 1869 in Georgia. By >1890 he was in Florida raised a family and was buried in Sumter County >in 1937. His death cert and childrens birth certs give no further >info. I have just been told his mother was married twice, first to a >Brown (John's father) and then to an Andrews. Please, does this ring a >bell with anyone? Thanks. Bill Brown willbees@mediaone.net > >______________________________

Dear All: I am honored to report we have full permission from the Washington County Historical Society to type and post online a wonderful book of Washington County Cemeteries. A copy of this book arrived in my mailbox today. The book is large (about 500 pages and duplexed) and I'm sure with plenty of wonderful volunteers <HINT> we can get this typed and online quickly. If you are remotely interested and would kindly offer to type just a few pages it will help tremendously. I will gladly provide the specifics of format for this data. When volunteering please provide: Your Name Email address Snail Mail address phone number Type & version of spreadsheet program(s) available (Excel, MSWorks, etc.) This book contains surveys of the following Washington County cemeteries: Barfield Bethel Primitive Baptist Blue Lake Baptist Blue Pond Bonnet Pond Burke Memorial Calvary Caryville Clarkston Cravey Cypress Double Pond Dunn-Raley Ebenezer Ebro Everett Ferguson Gainer East Side Baptist Gap Pond Greenhead Hard Labor Hardy Hicks Kent Lakeview Leigh Liberty Limestone Live Oak Mercer Miller Missionary Baptist Moss Hill New Bethany Ass'y of God New Hope I'm sorry but I simply cannot do lookups due to time constraints. Better still ~ Volunteer to type and see all the information firsthand!! Plus, the sooner we get this typed the sooner we can have it ALL online!!! Please respond to me directly... looking forward to hearing from you. Cindy Sloan Washington County FLGenWeb Project Coordinator http://members.aol.com/seagee69/washington

Hello Again Everyone: We have received much email from researchers who have told us of their problems of not having access to many of the basic source materials they need to continue their genealogy work. With this in mind we are putting together a new page on our web site that will enable you to receive source material via email on proven lineages and family surname material of our early Colonial Ancestors. This is a huge undertaking that will be available to anyone who wishes to receive the material, another free service from America's First Families. Since the material will take some time to convert and set up in an EASY READING format, we will offer files from time to time for you to review and use. We have at this moment a Colonial Lineage file that was approved by a National Society in 1929 and contains over 100 names of Ancestorsfrom VIRGINIA and MARYLAND. Much to many to enter here on the list. Use the email address below and enter REQUEST FILE #059 on the subject line. Be sure to enter in this manner so it goes to the correct mailbox. We will get it out to you right away. This is a free service available to anyone to use. Enjoy The best each and everyone of you Harold Oliver Director America's First Families mailto:firstfamilies@linkline.com

Sorry, I don't know for sure. She's just listed at the URL below and it thanks her for coordinating the effort. So that makes me think she the "administrator" aka list mom. Sue Ann >I'm totaly confused. Have received email from someone on the list that asked >me a question that i thought should be sent to the list owner, coordinator >or whomever is in charge of the FL list. > >Is Melanie Cox the "list Mom"? Have been on the FL list for quite some time >and don't remember ever seeing a post from Melanie Cox. > > >>The FL webpage <http://www.rootsweb.com/~flgenweb/index.html> mentions >>Melanie Cox as the coordinator mkcox@gte.net >> >> >>>Dear List-owner, >>> >>>Please post the answer to Anne's question on the list. I'm curious, too. >>> >>>Brian Michaels >>>******************************************* >>>afutch wrote: >>>> >>>> Who is the list owner for the FL list? >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> Anne -------------------------------------------------------------- Sue Ann Sanders Duval Co, FL GenWeb Coordinator sasanders@wisc-dtp.com http://www.rootsweb.com/~flduval Rootsweb Sponsor SANDERS, PHILLIPS, COPELAND, WALL --------------------------------------------------------------

First, is there a Georgia-l Rootsweb list? I guess I should post this vague request there also if one exists. All you listers with John Browns - mine was born in 1869 in Georgia. By 1890 he was in Florida raised a family and was buried in Sumter County in 1937. His death cert and childrens birth certs give no further info. I have just been told his mother was married twice, first to a Brown (John's father) and then to an Andrews. Please, does this ring a bell with anyone? Thanks. Bill Brown willbees@mediaone.net

I'm totaly confused. Have received email from someone on the list that asked me a question that i thought should be sent to the list owner, coordinator or whomever is in charge of the FL list. Is Melanie Cox the "list Mom"? Have been on the FL list for quite some time and don't remember ever seeing a post from Melanie Cox. >The FL webpage <http://www.rootsweb.com/~flgenweb/index.html> mentions >Melanie Cox as the coordinator mkcox@gte.net > > > >>Dear List-owner, >> >>Please post the answer to Anne's question on the list. I'm curious, too. >> >>Brian Michaels >>******************************************* >>afutch wrote: >>> >>> Who is the list owner for the FL list? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Anne >> > > >-------------------------------------------------------------- >Sue Ann Sanders Duval Co, FL GenWeb Coordinator >sasanders@wisc-dtp.com http://www.rootsweb.com/~flduval >Rootsweb Sponsor SANDERS, PHILLIPS, COPELAND, WALL >-------------------------------------------------------------- >

The FL webpage <http://www.rootsweb.com/~flgenweb/index.html> mentions Melanie Cox as the coordinator mkcox@gte.net >Dear List-owner, > >Please post the answer to Anne's question on the list. I'm curious, too. > >Brian Michaels >******************************************* >afutch wrote: >> >> Who is the list owner for the FL list? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Anne > -------------------------------------------------------------- Sue Ann Sanders Duval Co, FL GenWeb Coordinator sasanders@wisc-dtp.com http://www.rootsweb.com/~flduval Rootsweb Sponsor SANDERS, PHILLIPS, COPELAND, WALL --------------------------------------------------------------

Bobbye, yes, it's a rough one, but by no means impossible! By the way, there is a fairly new printed index to the 1885 Florida STATE census. Write a large FL library like JAX or Miami and ask them to xerox all Williams entries for you. Then do follow up with the Soundex index to 1900 (and the later ones), being sure to check for Fletcher and for Hannah, in case he was so inconsiderate as to die young. They are STATEWIDE indexes and you might pick up your folks, regardless of where they might have been residing. I'll subside, now. Again, good luck! --Brian ******************************************************************** BOBBYE wrote: > > I don't have any census areocrds or any thing from Fl. in my local > library. Guess I will have to rent them from Nara a little at a time > and look. Sure wish they weren't so hard to find. I have interviewed > every living Williams relative I have found and none of them know any > thing beyond William Norman Williams my gg grand father. The only info > on Flethcer was that he moved to Florida and his wife's name was > Hannah. Not much to start with. > -----Original Message----- > From: Brian E. Michaels <michaels_b@popmail.firn.edu> > To: BOBBYE <bobbye@microsped.com> > Cc: FLORIDA-L@rootsweb.com <FLORIDA-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: Monday, March 29, 1999 11:33 AM > Subject: Re: Williams Death records in Florida > > >Bobbye, I checked, but nothing good resulted, I regret to report. > > > >In the 1877-1916 there were 18 James Williamses, with no way to > >distinguish among them except date and place of death. Age and > >birthplace are not part of the index. > > > >There was no Fletcher at all in 1877-1916. There was one bl. male > >Fletcher Williams, d. DeSoto Co, 1922. > > > >There were 3 Hannahs, all black females in Jax., DeSoto County, and > >Jefferson Co--2 died in 1905, 1 in 1914. > > > >There were 34 Jameses in the 1917-22 alone, along with 80 Williamses > >w/no first name given. > > > >One Walter (bl. male) died Jax 1916; one Walter T. (wh. male) d > Escambia > >Co. d. 1916. > > > >My fears were realized; sorry. > > > >If I were you, I'd check the indexed US censuses for Florida in 1900, > >1910, and 1920--and the unindexed state census for 1935--to see if I > >couldn't come up with some y closer estimates and parameters. > > > >FYI: Florida began requiring death certificates after 1899, but > records > >before 1917 are really spotty and some people don't have records even > >into the 1930s. Marriage records date back to territorial days in the > >counties; central registration of marriages and annulments and > divorces > >began 6 June 1927. Prior to that, the records are found only in the > >several counties. > > > >Good luck! > > > >--Brian > >********************************************** > > > >BOBBYE wrote: > >> > >> Brian this is the best that I can do: > >> On the 1880 census in Sumter Col . Fletcher was 48 . I made a > mistake > >> on his date of birth. He would have been born @ 1832. So I am > guessing > >> he may have lived 20 to 25 years or more. That would be in the > early > >> 1900's for a death date. Hannah may have followed behind that. I > would > >> check up through 1910 to be safe. > >> Wilson C. was already 76 so he may have died before 1900. > >> > >> I would add about 50 years or so to the other boys to give a wide > >> margin on them. > >> I am sorry that I can't be more specific but it is really hard to > >> trace these people. > >> Maybe some of them could be found in some cemetery records. > >> I am not familiar with when Fl. started keeping marriage and death > >> records. > >> Thanks, > >> Bobbye > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Brian E. Michaels <michaels_b@popmail.firn.edu> > >> To: BOBBYE <bobbye@microsped.com> > >> Cc: FLORIDA-L@rootsweb.com <FLORIDA-L@rootsweb.com> > >> Date: Sunday, March 28, 1999 1:36 PM > >> Subject: Re: Williams Death records in Florida > >> > >> >Bobbye, I'll be happy to check the index for you. Unfortunately, > >> though, > >> >I'll need some close estimates of death dates. The index is mostly > >> year > >> >by year and on microfiche. And since Williams is one of the top > ten > >> US > >> >surnames by frequency, there'll be bunches of each of them--more > than > >> >one might reasonably expect to be able to sort out. > >> > > >> >If you can give me some better parameters, I'll do my best. > >> > > >> >Good luck! > >> > > >> >--Brian Michaels (Palatka, FL) > >> >*************************************************************** > >> >BOBBYE wrote: > >> >> > >> >> Would some some please look on the Fl. death index for death > dates > >> of > >> >> : > >> >> Fletcher Williams born in Al. @ 1823 > >> >> Hannah Williams born @ in Ga. about 1839 > >> >> Wilson C. Williams born Ga. @1803-4 > >> >> > >> >> Fletcher Williams born Fl. @1870-71 > >> >> James Williams born Fl. @ 1876-77 > >> >> Walter william born Fl. @ 1870-71 > >> >> Any help greatly appreciated. I am a long way from Florida. > >> >> Bobbye > >> > > >

Bobbye, Put simply, according to the current Florida Statutes, you'd have to BE your ggg-grandfather, or his mother, or his guardian, or his legal representative. Even if you were his SISTER or his DAUGHTER you couldn't get it. But not to worry--he was born long before Florida was into birth certificates, anyway. --Brian ******************************************************************************* BOBBYE wrote: > > Since this is in all probability my ggg grandfather and and gg uncle > how much more kin do I need to be? > -----Original Message----- > From: Brian E. Michaels <michaels_b@popmail.firn.edu> > To: FLORIDA-L@rootsweb.com <FLORIDA-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: Monday, March 29, 1999 1:08 PM > Subject: Re: FL vital records indices > > >Dear "Westover"-- > > > >By statutory change in 1987, "all [Florida] birth records ... shall > be > >considered confidential documents...." > > > >Birth records since that time are legally available only to the > >registrant (if of full age--18), or to the parent, guardian, or other > >legal representative. Even the indexes are confidential. > > > >It grieves me to tell you this, but.... > > > >Regards, > > > >--Brian Michaels > >********************************************************** > >westover wrote: > >> > >> I found FL death, marriage and divorce indices on microfiche at the > local public library. Does anyone know if there is a microfiche index > of FL birth records? > >> > >> -----== Sent via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==----- > >> http://www.dejanews.com/ Easy access to 50,000+ discussion forums > > > >

Dear List-owner, Please post the answer to Anne's question on the list. I'm curious, too. Brian Michaels ******************************************* afutch wrote: > > Who is the list owner for the FL list? > > Thanks, > > Anne

Thanks, Jean! I'll forward this to Rhonda King and the list, in case anybody else can help. Since Dover is in Hillsborough County, if I were Rhonda I'd check them out. Using Switchboard.com, Bigfoot.com, or one of the other free people-locators, Rhonda might find a grand- or great-grandchild or somebody who knows of "Bill" Creel. We too have a family of Creels here in Palatka. I'll ask them, but I don't think that Charlie is from "around here" in FL. --Brian Michaels ************************************************************** Jeaninfl61@aol.com wrote: > > Hi, I know a family of CREELS that live in Dover Fl. > from jeaninfl

Dear "Westover"-- By statutory change in 1987, "all [Florida] birth records ... shall be considered confidential documents...." Birth records since that time are legally available only to the registrant (if of full age--18), or to the parent, guardian, or other legal representative. Even the indexes are confidential. It grieves me to tell you this, but.... Regards, --Brian Michaels ********************************************************** westover wrote: > > I found FL death, marriage and divorce indices on microfiche at the local public library. Does anyone know if there is a microfiche index of FL birth records? > > -----== Sent via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==----- > http://www.dejanews.com/ Easy access to 50,000+ discussion forums

Rhonda, Look again at my previous posting. I said that Wm. L. died in 1928 in Escambia County. Pensacola is the seat, and it's a very long way from Tampa, though it could be he. Are you not sure of the "H"? As I said, the 1935 IS a state census. It's on film at the Florida State Archives, the Jacksonville Public Library, the Miami-Dade, and probably several other major collections. I believe that your nearest LDS Family History Library can get it for you, too. The FL State Archives has the original sheets and will check it for you (used to be a $5 fee, a real bargain!)if you can get a street address from voting records, city directories, tax records, or the like. He was "living near Eagle Lake" WHEN? Is Eagle Lake a town too, or just a lake? As to the brother, Levi: one Levi V. Creel died in Tampa in 1939, so I'd try to get an address for him for the 1935 census, too. By the way, Polk (Bartow) and Hillsborough (Tampa) Counties are contiguous counties. There is also a 1945 FL state census at the archives, by the way--also unindexed, and much bigger. Where are you? May be a closer source... Good hunting! --Brian ********************************************************************* Rhonda D King wrote: > > Brian, > Thank you for your help. All I know is that William H. Creel according > to my family and census records was living in Polk Co., Fl. near Eagle > Lake. He was known as Bill Creel. Did the index say where the William > L. Creel died? The only name I recognize of the names you listed is > Levi. William H. had a brother who leaves Ga. sometime between 1870 & > 1880 who was named Levi. I assumed he probably went to Fl. also but > have not gotten that far with it yet. I will check on the 1935 Fl. > census. This must be a state and not a Federal census. Where can I > find a Fl. state census? I have seen Federal census records here but > not any state census records. > Thank you so very much for your help, > Rhonda

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I found FL death, marriage and divorce indices on microfiche at the local public library. Does anyone know if there is a microfiche index of FL birth records? -----== Sent via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==----- http://www.dejanews.com/ Easy access to 50,000+ discussion forums

Who is the list owner for the FL list? Thanks, Anne

Bobbye, I checked, but nothing good resulted, I regret to report. In the 1877-1916 there were 18 James Williamses, with no way to distinguish among them except date and place of death. Age and birthplace are not part of the index. There was no Fletcher at all in 1877-1916. There was one bl. male Fletcher Williams, d. DeSoto Co, 1922. There were 3 Hannahs, all black females in Jax., DeSoto County, and Jefferson Co--2 died in 1905, 1 in 1914. There were 34 Jameses in the 1917-22 alone, along with 80 Williamses w/no first name given. One Walter (bl. male) died Jax 1916; one Walter T. (wh. male) d Escambia Co. d. 1916. My fears were realized; sorry. If I were you, I'd check the indexed US censuses for Florida in 1900, 1910, and 1920--and the unindexed state census for 1935--to see if I couldn't come up with some y closer estimates and parameters. FYI: Florida began requiring death certificates after 1899, but records before 1917 are really spotty and some people don't have records even into the 1930s. Marriage records date back to territorial days in the counties; central registration of marriages and annulments and divorces began 6 June 1927. Prior to that, the records are found only in the several counties. Good luck! --Brian ********************************************** BOBBYE wrote: > > Brian this is the best that I can do: > On the 1880 census in Sumter Col . Fletcher was 48 . I made a mistake > on his date of birth. He would have been born @ 1832. So I am guessing > he may have lived 20 to 25 years or more. That would be in the early > 1900's for a death date. Hannah may have followed behind that. I would > check up through 1910 to be safe. > Wilson C. was already 76 so he may have died before 1900. > > I would add about 50 years or so to the other boys to give a wide > margin on them. > I am sorry that I can't be more specific but it is really hard to > trace these people. > Maybe some of them could be found in some cemetery records. > I am not familiar with when Fl. started keeping marriage and death > records. > Thanks, > Bobbye > -----Original Message----- > From: Brian E. Michaels <michaels_b@popmail.firn.edu> > To: BOBBYE <bobbye@microsped.com> > Cc: FLORIDA-L@rootsweb.com <FLORIDA-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: Sunday, March 28, 1999 1:36 PM > Subject: Re: Williams Death records in Florida > > >Bobbye, I'll be happy to check the index for you. Unfortunately, > though, > >I'll need some close estimates of death dates. The index is mostly > year > >by year and on microfiche. And since Williams is one of the top ten > US > >surnames by frequency, there'll be bunches of each of them--more than > >one might reasonably expect to be able to sort out. > > > >If you can give me some better parameters, I'll do my best. > > > >Good luck! > > > >--Brian Michaels (Palatka, FL) > >*************************************************************** > >BOBBYE wrote: > >> > >> Would some some please look on the Fl. death index for death dates > of > >> : > >> Fletcher Williams born in Al. @ 1823 > >> Hannah Williams born @ in Ga. about 1839 > >> Wilson C. Williams born Ga. @1803-4 > >> > >> Fletcher Williams born Fl. @1870-71 > >> James Williams born Fl. @ 1876-77 > >> Walter william born Fl. @ 1870-71 > >> Any help greatly appreciated. I am a long way from Florida. > >> Bobbye > >