Liz, Oops! When my wife read my response to you (yesterday) and noted that I'd said we're 28 miles SE of St. Augustine, she observed that it would be rather a damp location.... And so it would! I think the one below is correct now. Putnam County is surrounded by Clay, St. Johns, Volusia, Marion, Alachua, and Bradford Counties. Palatka is on US 17 where it crosses the St. Johns River. It's 28 miles SW of St. Augustine, 55 miles S of Jacksonville, 55 miles NW of Daytona Beach, 44 miles E of Gainesville, 45 miles NE from Ocala.... We're in a triangle formed by Gainesville, Jacksonville, and Daytona Beach. We have a Holiday inn, a Best Western, the Minute Maid B&B recently seen in a national orange juice marketing contest, and other less-well-known accommodations. You can get here from practically anywhere by bus, boat, car, (small) plane, or train. We'd be happy to have you join us on May 8. If you've heard Sandy Luebking before, you know what a dynamo she is--and if you haven't, just trust me. Nora and I drove 100 miles to the Orlando area to see her again last winter. It was a genealogical treat! I can estimate hours if you'll let me know from where.... If you'd like a registration form just give me your snail address. Hope to see you here! -Brian ********************************************************** smithl@wfrpc.dst.fl.us wrote: > > So where is Putnam County? In miles and hours? > > Liz

Pamela, Christine, and All, Several people missed and have asked about our announcement of the Sandra Luebking Spring Workshop in Palatka on May 8, so I'm reposting this. Anyone who would like one or more hard-copies of the flier can have them by giving me a snail address. I say again: Sandy is wonderful, and you would all be welcome! --Brian Michaels On Saturday, May 8, Sandra Hargreaves Luebking, author of Ancestry's classic genealogy text, The Source, and A Guide to the National Archives Field Branches, will be the speaker at an all-day Putnam County Genealogical Society Spring Workshop to be held in the St. James United Methodist Fellowship Hall on US 17 in downtown Palatka, Florida. Mrs. Luebking, a nationally known author and lecturer from the Chicago area, also edits The Forum, newsletter of the Federation of Genealogical Societies, and is a coordinator of the nationally known Samford University Institute of History and Genealogical Research in Birmingham, Alabama. Her topics will include: "JOURNEY INTO GENEALOGY"--an overview of how genealogists work--which will motivate beginners, revitalize the experienced, and intrigue newcomers interested in their family history. "FINDING FEMALES: GRANDMA, WHERE ARE YOU?" will focus on how to pursue the most elusive of our ancestors: the females. This session will introduce several search strategies, using 19th-century examples. "CIRCUMVENTING BLOCKED LINES" presents sure-fire search strategies for lines on which we have run into brick walls. "NAME THAT SOURCE" will present unusual and seldom-used sources for solving research problems and explain them in a quiz-show format, with contestants, prizes, and an emcee. A really unique presentation! SATURDAY, MAY 8, 1999: 8:30 a.m-4:00 p.m. > Lectures, vendors, doorprizes, and a catered luncheon for $30 registration if mailed by April 15 ($35 thereafter). Registration is limited to 100, so reserve your place early. Use the handy form below to pre-register, and you'll receive an acknowledgment and directions to the site. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - To: Putnam County Genealogical Society, P.O. Box 2354, Palatka, FL 32178: Count me in! Name:_____________________________________________ Mailing Address:_________________________________ City, State & ZIP:___________________________ Phone: ( )_____________ $30 Registration Fee includes catered luncheon (if mailed by April 15) $35 Registration Fee includes catered luncheon (after April 15, 1999) -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Mike, as you apparently found out, there is only one "Heloise Mc-anything" with the birthdate you list for your aunt, Heloise McInnes (nee Scott-Williams) in the SSDI nationwide. Her SS-5 Social Security application was filed, apparently, in Indiana before 1951, and should we need to get that, it CAN take up to four months. I'd recommend the death-certificate route. There are other possible approaches: voting records, city directories, deeds, probates, etc., but I'd start with the death, were I you. If she is the correct one, she died on 10 January 1973 in Dade County, Florida, and the death index recites her birthdate as the one you gave (12 June 1897). Hoping that an obituary could help, I called the excellent Renee Pierce, head of the excellent genealogy department of the Miami-Dade Library for an obituary check. She reports that there is apparently no obituary. The certificate of death is at Vol. 3816, certificate #1938. If you will let me know that you want it, will give me your snail-address, and are willing to wait the several weeks it will take them to get it to me, I'd be pleased to provide you with a copy (no charge--my treat). Once you have that, you MIGHT be able to get survivor information from the funeral director or the cemetery of her interment. If any of this is of interest, let me know. --Brian Michaels in Palatka, FL ******************************************************** Mike Scott-Williams wrote: > > Hi Listers, > > I have what may be a bit of a "long shot" to ask of you. > My father's eldest sister, HELOISE SCOTT-WILLIAMS left South Africa in the > early 1930's for the U.S.A. > She went via England, and the last the family heard from her was by post > from Massachusetts. > It is said she married in South Africa before she left to a Mc or Mac > something, so she would not have arrived in the U.S. with the name > Scott-Williams. She had a son with her, whether it was Mc-something's child > or not, I am not sure. > I recently searched the S.S.D.I. and came up with a HELOISE MCINNES. This > woman has the correct birthdate, 12 JUNE 1897, and I must presume, because > of the McInnes, that this may well be my missing Aunt. Heloise MnInnes died > January 1973, in Miami, Dade County. There is also a reference number, > 33138, with the address. Her Social Security number is 309-12-6976. > Now, it isn't easy for me to send $7.00 to the Social Security > Administration, as much as I would like to be able to. Can any of you advise > me if there is another way of verifying whether this Heloise is the one I > have been looking for over the last forty years? > Who knows, maybe the S.S.A. accept credit cards!! > > Happy hunting, > > Mike > > ----------------------------------- > Mike Scott-Williams > P.O. Box 362, Hilton, 3245. > South Africa > ----------------------------------- > Tel: 0331 62558 > Pietermaritzburg. > South Africa > ----------------------------------- > e-mail: mike.sw@pixie.co.za International Code: 27-331-62558 > web site : http://home.pix.za/ms/ms73/index.htm > > ----------------------------------- > Mike Scott-Williams > P.O. Box 362, Hilton, 3245. > South Africa > ----------------------------------- > Tel: 0331 62558 > Pietermaritzburg. > South Africa > ----------------------------------- > e-mail: mike.sw@pixie.co.za International Code: 27-331-62558 > web site : http://home.pix.za/ms/ms73/index.htm

David Avant , Sr 2312 Don Patricio Dr Tallahassee, FL 32304 I'm a bit reluctant to post his phone # since I have not consulted him about this, but as interested as he is in genealogy & local history I do not think he would mind being contacted. Peggy ---------- > From: Richard White <rwhite@pone.com> > To: FLORIDA-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: Jerkins/FL History > Date: Thursday, April 01, 1999 10:13 AM > > > David Avant is a local historian in the Gadsden/Leon County area. My > memory is a bit foggy now as whether it was him or another Avant, but in > about 1977 I was privileged to make a guided visit to an Avant family > homestead which is a log house that I believe was originally a > stagecoach stop on the line you are referring to. It would seem > probable that the Avants might be a source of information. I do not > know how to contact him/them, but maybe someone else on the list does... > (Peggy Munroe maybe?) > > Richard White > Tallahassee > > Jack Butler wrote: > > > > Okay all of you history experts I have a question for you. I found a > > circa 1912 profile/interview of a cousin, William Lafayette Jerkins, in > > which he said that his great grandfather (and my gggg grandfather) > > Zachariah Jerkins (also frequently listed as Judkins) had founded the > > first stage coach line between Tallahassee, FL and Tuscaloosa, AL. This > > would have been sometime in the late 1820's to around 1837. Zachariah > > was in Tallahassee by 1827, and he did travel several time back and > > froth to Dale County, Al. Also, Tuscaloosa was the I am looking for > > recommendations on how to pursue evidence as to whether or not this > > piece of family folklore is true or not. > > > > Suggestions? Ideas? > > > > Jack Butler

SHERWOOD -- Clarence Buford Sherwood, Sr. -- Miami, FL died probably abt. 1965? Clarence Buford Sherwood, Jr. -- Tallahassee, FL still living? (my dad's nephew) would like more info of any kind on these two fellas. CASON -- Mollie E. Cason m . W.E. Sherwood 6 April 1870 in Bibb CO GA. I need to know where she came from, birth date, parents, etc. She was Buford, Sr.'s grandmother. Jennifer Sherwood Braswell

Yep Brian, you are exactly right. I was adopted, and am looking for anything on my birth family. My "original" (Ha!) birth certificate states that I was born to my adoptive parents, and even states that I was my mother's 1st "live" birth. My mom had NO children, they couldn't HAVE children, that's why they adopted me. Also, in Florida, all the way into the 1970's, the attorney handling the adoption had full power to change the birthdate, anywhere from 6 weeks prior, to 6 weeks later, just to make the "search" even more difficult. They finally changed that law in the mid-70's, so that the exact date of birth has to be on the new certificate. So, if you were born prior to the '70s in Florida, and adopted, there is a chance that you have a full 3 month period that needs to be searched. I have a friend that I went to school with, that was adopted also, and hers WAS changed. So, she celebrates the birthdate that is on her certificate, but she still knows that it is not the real DOB. The only way I know mine wasn't changed, is because another girl I went to school with is one day older than me, and her mom told me that she remembers when I was born, and my adoptive mom came to the "ward" and took me home. Anyway, alot of people who may join the adoption search sites for Florida, post their date of birth, but even then, it will throw people off, if the dates are up to 3 months "wrong". It really prevents alot of connections, (which is what it was designed to do!) Now, that really upsets me! Christine Brian E. Michaels wrote: > Yo, Westover, > > Want one that's even worse? In the case of Florida adoptions, a fake > birth certificate showing the adoptive parents as the birth parents is > issued and the original, accurate certificate is sealed. But not just > sealed, replaced with a flagrant lie! > > That REALLY puts my genealogical nose out of joint.... <snarl> > > Brian Michaels > ********************************************************************** > westover wrote: > > > > Thanks to all who responded. > > > > I can understand how certain birth records could be considered confidential (e.g., unwed mothers, adoptions, etc.) However, it is unfair to make all birth records inaccessible for genealogical research. Not surprisingly, the rules vary from state to state. For example, in Connecticut, all records of vital statistics, including births, are open for research to any member of a legally incorporated genealogy society. > > > > Not looking for a reply. Just venting! > > > > -----== Sent via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==----- > > http://www.dejanews.com/ Easy access to 50,000+ discussion forums > > ______________________________

David Avant is a local historian in the Gadsden/Leon County area. My memory is a bit foggy now as whether it was him or another Avant, but in about 1977 I was privileged to make a guided visit to an Avant family homestead which is a log house that I believe was originally a stagecoach stop on the line you are referring to. It would seem probable that the Avants might be a source of information. I do not know how to contact him/them, but maybe someone else on the list does... (Peggy Munroe maybe?) Richard White Tallahassee Jack Butler wrote: > > Okay all of you history experts I have a question for you. I found a > circa 1912 profile/interview of a cousin, William Lafayette Jerkins, in > which he said that his great grandfather (and my gggg grandfather) > Zachariah Jerkins (also frequently listed as Judkins) had founded the > first stage coach line between Tallahassee, FL and Tuscaloosa, AL. This > would have been sometime in the late 1820's to around 1837. Zachariah > was in Tallahassee by 1827, and he did travel several time back and > froth to Dale County, Al. Also, Tuscaloosa was the I am looking for > recommendations on how to pursue evidence as to whether or not this > piece of family folklore is true or not. > > Suggestions? Ideas? > > Jack Butler

Brian, The "A" after the social security number means that the person has actively started drawing social security under his own number. The "B" means that the spouse of the "Working person" is drawing SS. "C" means child of the working person. There is a whole list of what the #'s mean. If I find it, I will post to the list. Debby Lantz

Hi Listers, I have what may be a bit of a "long shot" to ask of you. My father's eldest sister, HELOISE SCOTT-WILLIAMS left South Africa in the early 1930's for the U.S.A. She went via England, and the last the family heard from her was by post from Massachusetts. It is said she married in South Africa before she left to a Mc or Mac something, so she would not have arrived in the U.S. with the name Scott-Williams. She had a son with her, whether it was Mc-something's child or not, I am not sure. I recently searched the S.S.D.I. and came up with a HELOISE MCINNES. This woman has the correct birthdate, 12 JUNE 1897, and I must presume, because of the McInnes, that this may well be my missing Aunt. Heloise MnInnes died January 1973, in Miami, Dade County. There is also a reference number, 33138, with the address. Her Social Security number is 309-12-6976. Now, it isn't easy for me to send $7.00 to the Social Security Administration, as much as I would like to be able to. Can any of you advise me if there is another way of verifying whether this Heloise is the one I have been looking for over the last forty years? Who knows, maybe the S.S.A. accept credit cards!! Happy hunting, Mike ----------------------------------- Mike Scott-Williams P.O. Box 362, Hilton, 3245. South Africa ----------------------------------- Tel: 0331 62558 Pietermaritzburg. South Africa ----------------------------------- e-mail: mike.sw@pixie.co.za International Code: 27-331-62558 web site : http://home.pix.za/ms/ms73/index.htm ----------------------------------- Mike Scott-Williams P.O. Box 362, Hilton, 3245. South Africa ----------------------------------- Tel: 0331 62558 Pietermaritzburg. South Africa ----------------------------------- e-mail: mike.sw@pixie.co.za International Code: 27-331-62558 web site : http://home.pix.za/ms/ms73/index.htm

Three things occur to me right off. I'm a bit rushed at the moment, so give me a little time to think. 1. I heard this years ago and made it the third part of my personal credo: "Attempt the goal, and never stop to doubt. Nothing's so hard but search will find it out." Give up? NEVER! 2. The "A" after the social security number may mean only that he was married and his spouse was/had been on his SS/Medicare account; she would have had the same number + "B." That's the way my father's card was done, anyway. I'm posting this to see if another lister can help us out. If not, I would call an SS office or SS hotline and ask them. 3. I suspect that if you were write to the hospital and ask them to clarify the unreadable parts from their copy of the death certificate, explaining to them that you have tried "not to bother" them, but that they appear to be your "only hope," some kind soul may look it up and respond by mail, phone, or--more likely, FAX. Of course, I was wrong on something, once upon a time, and I may be again.... But I think it's worth a try. Do let me know what happens. More, later. --Brian ************************************************************************ Tom & Donna Cino wrote: > > Hello Brian, Thank you so much for your reply. I'm so unfamiliar with how things work in the States. Here in canada > it's harder to find and get records, especially birth and marriage,than it is ti get the ones from Britian. I wonder > why our own countries make it so hard?! > Yes I have a death certificate for Jim, he died May 8, 1968. It is rather confusing to me as to which area Jim lived > in as the certificate has faded out spots. The first line of the certificate has place of death: Palm Beach > Code No: 60.304 > ? Residence (unreadable)State: Florida / County: Palm Beach > >second line > City, town or location: West Palm Beach > Place of ? inside city?:yes > City town or location: Riviera Beach > Is residence inside city limits: yes > >third line > Name of Hospital: St. Mary's Hospital > Street address: 149 East 21st Street > >fourth line: > Name of deceased: > Arthur James Webster > Date of death: May 8, 1968 etc. etc. and widowed > One puzzling piece is on the SSI they show his number as 564-16-9096 and birthday as March 23, 1886 (right parents > etc.) > on the death certificate they show his SSI number as 564-16-9096A and have his date of birth as March 15, 1885. Do > you think they have sent me the wrong certificate? I also notice (isn't it amazing when you are writng.talking to > someone, how you notice things you hadn't taken into account before?) that his SSI form was signed in April 1937 and > his address was San Pedro, Calif. which I guess means he was still living there at that time? > I don't have an obituary of his death and doubt there would be one as he was the only relative there; although > supposedly an Aunt went there to take care of his things and I have heard a story that she brought his ashes back to > Canada. > I have been intouch with Harry's 2 daughters that are still living in Calif. but they don't remember much about Jim > or Lillie except that their Dad went to Florida with Jim to look at the property he had bought. Harry died in 1954 so > I know he must have moved to Florida between May 1937 and 1954. Doesn't narrow it down to much does it? I don't know > if Lillie drove, but understand they were both heavy drinkers, big help that is! Of note, Jim married here in > Victoria in 1912 to an Annie Elizabeth Hawkins. I can find no divorce or death record for her. The 2 daughters of > Harry's remember that Lillie lived seperate from Jim and I did have aCalif. address fro her from a notebook of the > girls mother, but it didn't give a last name. Frustrating! I had found 2 SSI Lillie (Lily) Websters in Florida that > looked promising, but both died after Jim's date of death. > So, do you think there are any possiblities here, or should I give up the ghost? Sorry to have made this so long, but > have tried to answer all questions you brought up. Thanks again and if think you be able to work from this, I'll be > forever in your debt! Hope to hear from you soon, kindest regards....Donna > > > Donna, > > > > If it's the right hit, Jim was born 23 March 1886 and died in West Palm > > Beach. Have you gotten a death certificate or an obituary? Either might > > help narrow your search. Once you have the death cert. and know the > > funeral director and the place of burial, either or both might prove > > helpful. > > > > A city directory search for West Palm Beach could give you an address > > for the 1935 STATE census, and the point at which Lillie is no longer > > listed w/Jim or he becomes a "wid." entry can narrow the search still > > further. (Are you aware that there are a Palm Beach and a West Palm > > Beach as well as Palm Beach County--three different record venues? SSI > > says Jim d. WEST Palm Beach.) > > > > Do you know whether Lillie drove a car? FL driver license records might > > help, depending on a lot of factors, but they're public records. > > > > Have you tracked Harry? Does he have descendants who might know anything > > of Jim/Lillie? SSI lists 8 CA Harry Websters, 2 in LA, one born too late > > (1917). The other was b. 1881, good likelihood on date, but had IOWA SS > > card. Have you any sources to find survivors? Sometimes family letters > > or diaries or Bibles may reveal in-laws' and spouses' deaths, of course. > > > > HELP! ANYBODY IN/NEAR WEST PALM have or know of a cemetery survey or > > index that might help us find Jim & Lillie? > > > > Donna, I'd be glad to try to help w/death records if you can narrow the > > search a bit further. > > > > Yes, there are marriage indexes in each county pre-1927 and statewide > > after 6 June 1927. The marriages statewide are on fiche with the death > > and divorce records. It might also be safe to check for a divorce; many > > "widow" and "widower" listings from earlier, more "sensitive," years > > were the result of divorce, not death. Probably not in this case, but... > > SSI shows one Florida Lillie Webster who d. 1980 and was about correct > > age. > > > > --Brian Michaels > > ********************************************

WALSHs around Jacksonville. Casivers@aol.com wrote: > > Researching the following families: > > Mira Family in Key West and Tampa > Martinez Family in Tampa > Sanchez Family in Tampa > Valdez(s) - Ledon Family in Tampa > Torres Family in Key West > Cepero Family in Tampa > Del Rio Family in Tampa > > Any information appreciated. > > Thanks, > > Cheryl Sanchez-Sivers -- James P. Lynch, III; jplynch@crosslink.net

Hi Elaine, I've got WEEKS around Jacksonville, turn of the century. EPalmer01@aol.com wrote: > > Surnames I am searching: > > WEEKS > OSTEEN > WALKER > SILCOX > MONROE > > Various branches of these families may be found in Alachua, Clay, Putnam, > Volusia, Flagler, St. Johns, Orange and Osceola to name a few. Please contact > me if you think there may be even a small connection. Thanks for your time. > Elaine -- James P. Lynch, III; jplynch@crosslink.net

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_pwW4UgsEZYjv4UigDDWhpQ) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit FL Listers, Several of you have commented on the adoption situation; thought you might want to read a bona fide horror story I received this morning from a fellow lister on the Derbyshire, England, list. Here 'tis.... --Brian Michaels --Boundary_(ID_pwW4UgsEZYjv4UigDDWhpQ) Content-type: MESSAGE/RFC822 Return-path: <DERBYSGEN-L-request@rootsweb.com> Received: from CONVERSION-DAEMON by WIZARD.FIRN.EDU (PMDF V5.2-29 #33499) id <01J9I54RW32O0020CU@WIZARD.FIRN.EDU> for MICHAELS_B@popstore.firn.edu (ORCPT rfc822;michaels_b@popmail.firn.edu); Thu, 1 Apr 1999 03:02:51 EDT Received: from bl-14.rootsweb.com (bl-14.rootsweb.com [204.212.38.30]) by WIZARD.FIRN.EDU (PMDF V5.2-29 #33499) with ESMTP id <01J9I54Q8A1M001ZK3@WIZARD.FIRN.EDU> for MICHAELS_B@popstore.firn.edu (ORCPT rfc822;michaels_b@popmail.firn.edu); Thu, 01 Apr 1999 03:02:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from slist@localhost) by bl-14.rootsweb.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA06196; Thu, 01 Apr 1999 00:00:00 -0800 (PST) Resent-date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 00:00:00 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 17:36:41 +1000 Resent-from: DERBYSGEN-L@rootsweb.com From: Nora Kevan <kevanno@tpgi.com.au> Subject: That;s Life Resent-sender: DERBYSGEN-L-request@rootsweb.com To: DERBYSGEN-L@rootsweb.com Resent-message-id: <"DmPLkC.A.VgB._dyA3"@bl-14.rootsweb.com> Message-id: <01c801be7c14$46055fa0$bca30ccb@kevanno> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Precedence: list X-Loop: DERBYSGEN-L@rootsweb.com Old-To: "Derby" <DERBYSGEN-L@rootsweb.com> X-Mailing-List: <DERBYSGEN-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/5129 Just got the following story from a friend in Canada" I just read of a man in England, called Ian Lewis, age 43, who spent 30 years tracing his family back to the 17th century. He travelled thousands of miles, interviewed 2000 relatives, and spent more than $100,000 in his quest. Then he learned that he had been adopted when only a month old, and his real name was David Thornton! Did he start all over again? Nora Kevan <Melbourne, Australia ==== DERBYSGEN Mailing List ==== Tip of the Week Read the FAQ for this list at: http://www.vaxxine.com/genrace/dbysfaq.htm --Boundary_(ID_pwW4UgsEZYjv4UigDDWhpQ)--

Louise, I'm delighted to hear it! I was worried that it might have eaten something important and you couldn't get back to me. I deleted mine, too, and our computer-man tells me that as long as we didn't open it we're all right. That was close! --Brian ****************************************** Louise Sullivan wrote: > > Brian, I did not send the Happy 99. I received one on my email and deleted > it. Hope it hasn't messed us up. Louise > -----Original Message----- > From: Brian E. Michaels <michaels_b@popmail.firn.edu> > To: Louise Sullivan <mlhjds@gate.net> > Cc: FLORIDA-L@rootsweb.com <FLORIDA-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: Wednesday, March 31, 1999 3:54 PM > Subject: Re: New to lsit/Death index for 1960's? > > >Louise, thanks for the kind words. > > > >I received an e-mail ahead of and along with this that had your return > >and consisted entirely of an attachment entitled "Happy99.exe." My > >computer guru here at the college said for me not to open it until I had > >heard from you that you really sent it and had opened it or knew it to > >be virus-free. The "Melissa" virus has us all scared to death, even > >though I don't use Microsoft outlook or an address book. > > > >Do forgive the abject fear and trembling that make me ask, "Is it safe > >to open the "Happy99.exe" attachment?" > > > >Thanks! --Brian > >************************************************************** > > > >Louise Sullivan wrote: > >> > >> The West Palm Beach Library has a website. I sent them email once and > >> requested a listing in the City Directory. They copied it and sent it to > >> me. Am glad to see you, Brian Michaels, so active on this list. I > >> subscribed to Florida Living Magazine just to get your articles. They > were > >> a big help to a beginning genealogist. Thank you. Louise Sullivan > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Brian E. Michaels <michaels_b@popmail.firn.edu> > >> To: FLORIDA-L@rootsweb.com <FLORIDA-L@rootsweb.com> > >> Date: Wednesday, March 31, 1999 11:10 AM > >> Subject: Re: New to lsit/Death index for 1960's? > >> > >> >Donna, > >> > > >> >If it's the right hit, Jim was born 23 March 1886 and died in West Palm > >> >Beach. Have you gotten a death certificate or an obituary? Either might > >> >help narrow your search. Once you have the death cert. and know the > >> >funeral director and the place of burial, either or both might prove > >> >helpful. > >> > > >> >A city directory search for West Palm Beach could give you an address > >> >for the 1935 STATE census, and the point at which Lillie is no longer > >> >listed w/Jim or he becomes a "wid." entry can narrow the search still > >> >further. (Are you aware that there are a Palm Beach and a West Palm > >> >Beach as well as Palm Beach County--three different record venues? SSI > >> >says Jim d. WEST Palm Beach.) > >> > > >> >Do you know whether Lillie drove a car? FL driver license records might > >> >help, depending on a lot of factors, but they're public records. > >> > > >> >Have you tracked Harry? Does he have descendants who might know anything > >> >of Jim/Lillie? SSI lists 8 CA Harry Websters, 2 in LA, one born too late > >> >(1917). The other was b. 1881, good likelihood on date, but had IOWA SS > >> >card. Have you any sources to find survivors? Sometimes family letters > >> >or diaries or Bibles may reveal in-laws' and spouses' deaths, of course. > >> > > >> >HELP! ANYBODY IN/NEAR WEST PALM have or know of a cemetery survey or > >> >index that might help us find Jim & Lillie? > >> > > >> >Donna, I'd be glad to try to help w/death records if you can narrow the > >> >search a bit further. > >> > > >> >Yes, there are marriage indexes in each county pre-1927 and statewide > >> >after 6 June 1927. The marriages statewide are on fiche with the death > >> >and divorce records. It might also be safe to check for a divorce; many > >> >"widow" and "widower" listings from earlier, more "sensitive," years > >> >were the result of divorce, not death. Probably not in this case, but... > >> >SSI shows one Florida Lillie Webster who d. 1980 and was about correct > >> >age. > >> > > >> >--Brian Michaels > >> >******************************************** > >> > Tom & Donna Cino wrote: > >> >> > >> >> Hello list, > >> >> I have been lurking in the background for a bit now, and this is my > first > >> posting. I have only one family that > >> >> was in Florida, an Arthur James (Jim)WEBSTER and his wife Lillie > (Lily). > >> Jim was born in Bletchley, Bucks, > >> >> England and along with most of his other siblings emmigrated to > Canada. > >> Jim and his brother Harry moved to Los > >> >> Angeles after the second World War. Jim met Lillie (Lily) in Los > Angeles > >> (can find no marriage there) and I > >> >> believe they moved to West Palm Beach about the 1830's. They had no > >> children. Jim died May 9th, 1968 and was a > >> >> widower. I have as yet been unable to trace Lillie and would love to > be > >> able to find their marriage date and > >> >> the date of Lillie's death. I have looked in SSI but have not found > any > >> that seem to match. > >> >> I have seen people mentioning a death index and wonder if it's > available > >> for checking in the later years of say > >> >> 1950's to early 1970's? If these are available is there sks who could > >> check these for me for possible dates? I > >> >> live in Canada, so I have a hard time getting any USA info. > >> >> PS are there any marriage indexs? > >> >> Good hunting to all....Donna B.C., Canada :0) > >> > > >> > > >

I found a record of a tombstone and its info for a William L. Black who was killed by indians in Idaho abt 1867 in the South East Oregon territory around Silver City Idaho. He was born in S.C. May 31 1802 and moved to Al. in 1817, moved to Calif in 1849, and to Idaho in 1867. Any one missing a relative. My Blacks were in Alabama at that time even. Some went to Fl and some to Texas from Ala. Silver City Idaho was the second largest silver discovery in the U.S. Guess he was looking to strike paydirt. jdcash@hardee.4ez.com

My turn! BECK - CAMPBELL - initially at least around Polk Co area FLEMING DANIEL(S) HUDSON KIRKLAND SUTTON - mostly Alachua/Levy/Suwannee, Holmes, Polk areas VANZANT and variants 1800-present - In the 1800s the vast majority could be found in Nassau, Alachua/Levy/Gilchrist/Leon etc areas. Look forward to meeting some new "cousins" through these families. Joni Hudson

Hi Lister's! I need the ancestors for the following: Thomas Jefferson Mott, Jr. b. July 18, 1868 in Tallahassee m. Katherine (Katie) James Gibson Oct. 20,1890 d. Feb. 12, 1962 in Jacksonville FL This is MY big brick wall! Mabel Emily Allen b. Aug. 16, 1890 or '91 in St. Augustine m. Leigh Cully m. Louis Chalmas Mott, Aug 4, 1925 in Lake City d. Apr. 1980 in Jacksonville She was the Daughter of Joseph Allen and Mary (Lizzie) Elizabeth Williams. Joseph Allen was shot and killed on his front porch by a losing opponent in the race for Sherriff in St. Augustine. The family originally came from Alabama. Any info would be appreciated. I particularly need DOB for Joseph Allen. An Obit for him would be great! I have the 1900 Census but it was taken after he died. Perhaps an eariler census would have it. Thanks, Tracey

William Jackson WILLIAMS (from Kentucky?) (my G-grandfather) Spouse: Jessie Marie MUSICK or MUSIC Children: John Calvin Willie Fred Wayman Freddie Mack Myrtle Lucille (b. Suwanee Co.) (my Grandmother) baby girl that died at birth Brother: Mark Williams Sister: Myrtle Williams Aloha; Debbie -----Original Message----- From: BOBBYE <bobbye@microsped.com> To: FLORIDA-L@rootsweb.com <FLORIDA-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Wednesday, March 31, 1999 9:26 PM Subject: Roll Call >Williams (surname) >First Names: >Fletcher,Hannah,Wilson C. James ,Nancy E. Susan,Mary,Walter >in Sumter Co. >

Have found large box of photos, scrapbook, diary, and momentos - trying to find owners. O. B. STUART Sr. was a real estate broker in FL. His son O. B. (Bernie) STUART II attended high school in FL in 1934-35, a singer, married Laura, was in military, had son O. B. STUART III. It's a treasure chest - the kind of information genealogists die for. Was found in Cuba, New Mexico. Can you help us find the owners? Thank you. Jan Broxterman jbinsure@nmia.com

DAVIS -- ?>S.C.>GA.>Nassau Co.>Baker Co.>Dixie Co.>Manatee Co. HALL -- ?>GA.>FL.? CREWS --?>GA.>Baker Co.>? CRAWFORD --?>GA.>FL.? CARROLL --?>S.C.>GA.>Nassau Co.>? ROWELL --?>GA.>Nassau Co.>? KEEN --?>GA.>? WALKER --?>FL.>? WILLIAMS --?>Suwanee Co.>Dixie Co. MUSIC or MUSICK --?>Suwanee Co.>Dixie Co.>? If anyone is searching one of these surnames, I would love to swap info. Aloha: Debbie