Brenda, Consider this.......My sister died in FLorida in 1943 at the age of 8 months and I looked for many years for her death record. Her name was Dorothy YON. I was told repeatedly that there was nothing on file anywhere. About 4 years ago, I sat down at the library (determined to find something) and looked thru the index reading EVERY name listed. Well, guess what? YON had been misread and filed under YOU! Keep searching and Good Luck! Liz In a message dated 4/3/99 12:52:52 PM Eastern Standard Time, bantal@magicnet.net writes: << Subj: death records Date: 4/3/99 12:52:52 PM Eastern Standard Time From: bantal@magicnet.net (Brenda Antal) To: FLORIDA-L@rootsweb.com With all the talk of vital records: I wonder about the chances of people being left off the death index while there could in fact be a death certificate. My gggrandfather, Zeb R Jones died in Graceville, Jackson Co, FL on Nov 19, 1927 or 1928. I would have expected a death certificate. I checked the death index myself and did not find it. State of FL says there is none. Does anyone know if the vital stat office checks the certificates or just the index? Is there a reliable way to have them search the certificates? Thanks for any help, Brenda Jones: GA>AL>FL Paulk: GA>FL Crawford: SC?>GA>FL Griffin: GA>FL ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: <FLORIDA-L-request@rootsweb.com> Received: from rly-zd03.mx.aol.com (rly-zd03.mail.aol.com [172.31.33.227]) by air-zd05.mail.aol.com (v59.4) with SMTP; Sat, 03 Apr 1999 12:52:52 -0500 Received: from bl-14.rootsweb.com (bl-14.rootsweb.com [204.212.38.30]) by rly-zd03.mx.aol.com (8.8.8/8.8.5/AOL-4.0.0) with ESMTP id MAA10369; Sat, 3 Apr 1999 12:52:42 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by bl-14.rootsweb.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA26039; Sat, 3 Apr 1999 09:51:15 -0800 (PST) Resent-Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 09:51:15 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <002001be7dfb$31231a80$27c906d0@jantal.ppp> From: "Brenda Antal" <bantal@magicnet.net> Old-To: "Florida list" <FLORIDA-L@rootsweb.com> Subject: death records Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 12:55:40 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"jagCUC.A.qWG.SUlB3"@bl-14.rootsweb.com> To: FLORIDA-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: FLORIDA-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: <FLORIDA-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/2937 X-Loop: FLORIDA-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: FLORIDA-L-request@rootsweb.com >>

My FL brickwall is my gggrandfather Henry F. BOIT. He first appears as a soldier in the Seminole Wars 1836. He is in Washington Co. (Census)1840 and 1845. He signs a petition there in 1842. I have seen the signature so know he could write. All through the 1850s he appears in the West FL Baptists Conv. minutes, the ledger for Neel's General Store (Neel's Landing), and land records for Jackson Co. FL and Henry Co. AL He owned land in the most Southeastern corner of AL where FL and the river meet AL. He does not appear in any other census. His widowed daughter-in-law charges on his account as late as 1864. Before all of you write to tell me about different spelling possibilities for him, be aware that I always look at BOIET/BOYT/BOYETT/BOYETTE. There was a Henry Boit who was a seafaring man who left Boston to go to FL and was never heard from. If this is my Henry, it would explain a persistent story in our family of a Northerner who came south as a missionary to the Indians. (Although, it doesn't explain why he decided to fight them instead!) Does anyone have any ideas about where to look for him? Thanks, Julia in TN

Mike, the request for the d.c. is gone to the state. By the way, those "ref #s"] are our postal codes (called ZIP codes); they identify the post office for a given address. More, later. FL LIST: anybody know anything of the Allan McInnes (1894-1977) below? Thanks! --Brian Michaels ******************************************* M. Scott-Williams wrote: > > Yeah, I am sure it is she as well, Brian. I did a crazy thing yesterday. I > had such a good connection at one stage, I downloaded every single McInnes > from the S.S.D.I. There were 507 of them! I fine tuned the husband > possibilities down to 11 individuals, that is, those with about the right > birth dates, and the "Florida" common denominator. My favorite is Allan > McInnes, b 11 June 1894, died Feb '77, died Miami, Dade County, ref 33138, > Soc. Sec No. 266-32-9396. > Amazing the things we'll do, if a lead is hot! > > Thanks for the friendly communications, > > Regards, > > Mike > > -----Original Message----- > From: Brian E. Michaels <michaels_b@popmail.firn.edu> > To: pix <ms73@pixie.co.za> > Date: 02 April 1999 05:36 > Subject: Re: Heloise Scott-Williams > > >Mike, I was just referring to her as Heloise McInnes who was born with > >the surname Scott-Williams. I don't know that this was she, but if I had > >to bet on it, I'd bet that it is.... > > > >Will post this to the Florida list in the hope Renee will see the > >thank-you and/or that someone else will know or can suggest something. > >I'll order the death certificate today. > > > >Good luck! --Brian > >*********************************** > >pix wrote: > >> > >> Hi Brian. > >> Thank you ever so much for your most welcome response. > >> When I mentioned I had been looking for this connection for forty years I > >> wasn't joking! She left the family here under a bit of a cloud, and the > >> single letter she wrote from Mass. wasn't very complimentary, according > to > >> my late father. All contact with family in England came to an abrupt halt > >> after her visit there as well, so whatever bee she had in her bonnet > didn't > >> bode well for those in South Africa. By the time I started taking an > >> interest, in the late 50's, memories had dimmed to about nothing. > >> I was pretty sure about Heloise McInnes being the only one in the > S.S.D.I. > >> fitting the bill, but am a little confused by your wording......"Mike, as > >> you apparently found out, there is only one "Heloise Mc-anything" with > the > >> birthdate you list for your aunt, Heloise McInnes (nee Scott-Williams) in > >> the SSDI nationwide." > >> Does this mean you can confirm she was a Miss. Scott-Williams? Probably > not, > >> because you go on to say..... > >> "If she is the correct one, ........." > >> > >> Never mind, I would very much like a copy of the death certificate, I > agree > >> it is the only way to go at present, and I appreciate your kind offer no > >> end. A few more weeks won't make any difference after 40 years! > >> Could you also please thank Renee Pierce for her input? > >> > >> My snail-address is below, > >> > >> Regards, > >> > >> Mike > >> > >> ----------------------------------- > >> Mike Scott-Williams > >> P.O. Box 362, Hilton, 3245. > >> South Africa > >

Hi all, I've just added new Eldridge information on my homepage. I have a descendant chart for Jefferson J. "Jeff" Eldridge, my gggrandfather, and the census records for all Eldridges in Georgia from 1850 through 1870. I plan to add more census records as time permits. I began my research for Jeff Eldridge in Georgia and that's where my brick wall is. The records say he was born in Georgia, but I can't find him there living with his parents. For the time being, I have no parents for him nor any siblings, just a lot of possibilities. I know my Eldridges are also in Alabama and FLorida. If you see any connections or possibilities, please email me. Thanks, Gayle Eldridge Kennedy Email: gkennedy@freenet.tlh.fl.us Homepage: http://fn3.freenet.tlh.fl.us/~gkennedy/

I do not have a list of Union soldiers buried in the cemeteries of Apalachicola. I do have a list of CSA soldiers in both the Magnolia and the Chestnut street cemeteries. One of my volunteers is working on complete lists of the cemeteries. These list and several other cemeteries in Franklin County are available on the Franklin County Genweb site. Ron Wakulla County FL GenWeb < http://mailer.fsu.edu/~rthompso/wakulla.html > Franklin County, FL GenWeb < http://mailer.fsu.edu/~rthompso/franklin.html > Civil War Soldiers of Florida < http://www.psy.fsu.edu/~thompson/cw/units.html > Antique Engines, Genealogy, Puzzles < http://mailer.fsu.edu/~rthompso/Ron-page.html >

Barlow, Coon, Harvill, Hattaway, Milligan, Johnson, Howell in NW FL & AL Rayborn/Rabun/Raborn etc, Brunson, Clark, Rials, Taylor, in S AL & GA Comer and Finan in Ireland

Sue Ann, I have a copy of a North Carolina newspaper that reported on the 1918 flu around the Winston-Salem area. The paper was dated 1918 and I came across it in my family papers. If you would like a copy of the paper, please let me know. Margaret Shuttlesworth

Donna, A woman can have her own SS# with an A, or it can be under her husband's # with a B. If the husband passes away, the B can be changed to a D. Even when a woman remarries after her first husband passes away, it may be possible that she keeps the # that she had while her first husband was alive. I think it depends on which # she receives her benefits under. If a person has more than one disabled child/dependent, each one will be given a # under the Father's SS#, but they will have a C1, C2, C3, etc. depending on how many children there are. Then, when that dependent gets older he/she can have their SS# changed to their own SS# with an A. There are many more possibilities. It someone worked for the Railroad, the alpha letter/letters will be in front of the SS#. They have their own list of meanings. Margaret

Hello Brian and Debby Thank you both for your input. I tried again to search for Lillie's SSI number to no avail. Does this mean she would have had the same SSI number as Jim except with a B and I could get a copy of hers using Jim's number? Sorry, I know so little about SSI numbers!If no one knows, I will try and do as suggested and call SS office. Anyone have a number? Thanks again...Donna :0)

Happy Easter Everyone! Just want to announce that information about the 1999 annual conference in Sarasota is now on our webpage. http://www.rootsweb.com/~flsgs/ We are extremely happy to announce that Sharon Debartolo Carmack will be our guest speaker. She is really a dynamic lecturer. Also, Jim and Terry Willard of the PBS television series "Ancestors" will be lecturing. Plan to mark you calendar for October 29-30 and spend a relaxing weekend on the waterfront. The Hyatt hotel is our conference site---not far from the Ringling Museum and numerous other fantastic tourist sites. You will have a choice of many lectures and lots of vendors to buy books from. And, you don't want to miss the brand new Selby Library which has a great genealogy collection. Our webpage has been changed slightly. We have moved the Vital Records information to the top of the table, since this seems to be so popular. Also, our new webmaster, Rhonda McClure has added Florida county boundary changes and dates. Don't forget, we also have a site for Florida county books that are for sale by individuals or societies. You need someone for a program or seminar? Another popular site is the Speakers Bureau. If you have a project you are working on, won't you please send it to us for the registry. We sure don't like to see duplication of efforts. Have a great weekend to all of you! Pam -- Pamela J. Hall Florida History & Genealogy Dept. Indian River County Main Library 1600 21st Street Vero Beach, Florida 32960 561-770-5060 Fax 561-770-5066 Email: phall@iu.net Florida History & Genealogy Department of IRC http://www.rootsweb.com/~flindian/ircl/ Indian River County Local History (GenWeb Project) http://www.rootsweb.com/~flindian/ Florida State Genealogical Society http://www.rootsweb.com/~flsgs/ Indian River Genealogical Society http://www.rootsweb.com/~flindigs/ East Central Florida Genealogical Society Co-op http://www.rootsweb.com/~flecfgsc/

You might be surprised how many folks in West FL were Unionists. :D Especially those Scots men. "David L. Cole" wrote: > > Greetings All! > Anyone got any idea how a union soldier died and was buried in > Apalachicola's cemetery. It is located at the mouth of the Apalachicola > River which source comes from the Flint River in Alabama and the > Chattahoochee River which starts on the outskirts of Atlanta. > Regards, David in N.W. Fla. -- L. L. Scott, IBSSG L. L. Scott's Virtual Office: http://www.geocities.com/~llscott/ BEAR/ BRANNAN/ BRICKER/ BRIDGE/ BACKUS/ BRAUN/ DOTY/ HARPER/ HATCH/ PLANK

My cousin married Sidney Sanford Sparkman whose father was Wade Hampton Sparkman, the son of Daniel Merith Sparkman, the son of Wade Hampton Sparkman. I have some marriages and dates if anyone is interested. John jwhitney@megabits.net

Subj: Abandoned and Neglected Cemetery Project Date: 4/2/99 9:26:47 PM Eastern Standard Time From: pwariner@bellsouth.net (Patricia Wariner) To: BettyMaeS@aol.com (BettyMaeS@aol.com) Dear Betty, My name is Patricia Wariner, I am the newsletter editor for the West Florida Genealogical Society. I have been working with Mr. Warren Jernigan, who is a member of the Abandoned and Neglected Cemetery Task Force. He has asked me to pass this letter on to people who can get the message out to others. I have seen your posting often on the Jackson County -L and thought you'd be interested in this information. Please feel free to post it or share it with anyone you feel would be interested in helping. Dear friends, As you know there are a few pieces of legislation that are of great importance to genealogist and others doing historical research. A report was released by the Task Force on Abandoned and Neglected Cemeteries to get legislation passed during this session that would be of great importance to you. This legislation deals with such issues as ingress and egress in abandoned and neglected cemeteries. It is imperative that I get your help ! This legislation proposed in the Task Force on Abandoned and Neglected Cemeteries would: Require record keeping at the county level of all abandoned and neglected cemeteries. We know of approximately 3,500 cemeteries in this state (Florida). Require additional information of decedents to be added to burial transit permits. The burial transit permit would record the exact garden, lot and space where the deceased is buried in a cemetery. If the grave is not marked, it is impossible to locate that grave again. Make landowners, trustees or corporations responsible for maintaining cemeteries in a dignified manner and other areas vital to preserve the respect of our deceased loved ones. A different, weaker proposal was introduced to the legislature as House Bill 1405. It is important that we support the "language" in the Task Force on Abandoned and Neglected Cemeteries final report. There are between 3,000 and 4,000 Bills introduced annually in the legislature, but only 300 to 400 become law. I would like to point out that there are less than 30 days left in this legislative session. To make an impact on the importance of this issue, I urge you to please write or call your legislators or any other legislator that you feel comfortable about this issue. Express to him / her your sincere dealing of support and need for the passage of legislation using the language of the Task Force on Abandoned and Neglected Cemeteries. Sincerely Yours, Warren Jernigan Legislative Liaison Task Force on Abandoned and Neglected Cemeteries

Greetings All! Anyone got any idea how a union soldier died and was buried in Apalachicola's cemetery. It is located at the mouth of the Apalachicola River which source comes from the Flint River in Alabama and the Chattahoochee River which starts on the outskirts of Atlanta. Regards, David in N.W. Fla.

Lynda, I reached the source of the Pilatka plat yesterday and she was supposed to make me a copy and check for Timothy's grave. I tried unsuccessfully to raise her today, so I fear it will be Monday or so before I have it. Sorry--frustrating! List: Any other Wightman descendants out there got their ears on? --Brian in Palatka

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------DD179A5C34419E761BCA7C67 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --------------DD179A5C34419E761BCA7C67 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Received: by duval.se.mediaone.net for willbees (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.21 1997/08/10) Fri Apr 2 14:35:43 1999) X-From_: FLHERNAN-L-request@rootsweb.com Fri Apr 2 14:35 EST 1999 Return-Path: <FLHERNAN-L-request@rootsweb.com> Received: from mrin1.se.mediaone.net ([24.129.0.131]) by se.mediaone.net (Netscape Messaging Server 3.01) with ESMTP id AAA12818 for <willbees@se.mediaone.net>; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 14:35:34 -0500 Received: from chmls04.mediaone.net (chmls04.mediaone.net [24.128.1.114]) by mrin1.se.mediaone.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA29835 for <willbees@se.mediaone.net>; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 14:35:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from bl-11.rootsweb.com (bl-11.rootsweb.com [204.212.38.27]) by chmls04.mediaone.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA07654 for <willbees@mediaone.net>; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 14:35:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by bl-11.rootsweb.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA16449; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 11:30:15 -0800 (PST) Resent-Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 11:30:15 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <37051CD7.8A71C000@mediaone.net> Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 14:39:03 -0500 From: William Brown <willbees@mediaone.net> X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: John Brown & Berzelia Brown Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"ommUlD.A.sAE.GrRB3"@bl-11.rootsweb.com> Resent-From: FLHERNAN-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: FLHERNAN-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: <FLHERNAN-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/80 X-Loop: FLHERNAN-L@rootsweb.com To: FLHERNAN-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Errors-To: FLHERNAN-L-request@rootsweb.com Resent-Sender: FLHERNAN-L-request@rootsweb.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 Have received some definitive info on my Browns - now can anyone connect? John Brown born 1869 GA died 1937 Sumter Co., FL - married Angie Page Berzelia Brown (John's sister) 1870 - unk (probably never married)(lived in Trilby, FL) Their mother's first name is unknown - married a Brown and later in life an Alexander. Born abt 1850 died abt 1925 FL Any one recognize these names? Thanks. Bill willbees@mediaone.net ==== FLHERNAN Mailing List ==== Remember: the Archives of this and (almost) all other Rootsweb mail lists can be searched at: <http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl> . --------------DD179A5C34419E761BCA7C67--

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Hello, I am researching ALLEN, BUIE, EDWARDS, GEIGER, MOON, READ, WILLIS, primarily, but not exclusively, in Citrus, Hernando and Marion Counties. Good luck to all, Julie Lowery

Hi, Browns Farm is located on East side of Hwy 827(This road is some rock grade not paved) (6-7 miles) south of Sixmile Bend. west of Loxahatchee Natl. Wildlife Refuge. South east of Lake Okeechobee in Palm Beach County (sw county) and south of Belle Glade. To day most is used for hunting area. Some farming there now but cane farming. This was a large labor camp years ago. See Belle Glade library for more info that was where the main office was. Dwight Stipes ---------- > From: greenhouse@phonetech.com > To: FLORIDA-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: BROWN'S FARM near EVERGLADES--1930's > Date: Thursday, April 01, 1999 2:51 PM > > Hi all, > > I have been told that Brown's was an experimental farm located somewhere > near the Everglades, or possibly near Lake Okeechobee. I think it may have > been associated with the government or a university. They were testing to > find improved methods of farming (I think). > > I would like to know exactly where it was located, in which county, and if > it is still operating. If so, has the name changed? Can anyone provide an > address? And last but not least, I'd like to make contact with anyone who > worked or works there now. Thanks in advance. > > Relatively, > Patrice Green > <greenhouse@phonetech.com>

Sim, You probably know this, but just in case: There are over 60 SPARKMAN entries--including Stephen and Simeon--in the index of FLORIDA PIONEERS AND THEIR DESCENDANTS, Vol. I, published by the FL State Gen Soc. The documentation files on which it is based are indexed and available in the Florida State Archives in Tallahassee. Also, though I don't have my copies here, I believe that THE FLORIDA GENEALOGIST ran a piece on Wade Hampton Sparkman--and perhaps others--sometime when I was serving as editor of that journal for several years in the '80s. Hope this helps. --Brian Michaels ************************************************ SCSPARKY@aol.com wrote: > > Hi- > > Researching the following with interest in ancestors and descendants: > > SPARKMAN, Stephen Lewis > > WALDEN, Larry Green son of Sylvester > > Thanks, > Sim Sparkman