I have some that I copied out of a book at our Carlsbad Library here in California, we have a very good Genealogical collection here that see a lot of use. I'll look it up for you and get the tile. Hmm... I am looking at my copies and I neglected to copy the tile page of the book. It looks like the author's name is Davidson, it has lists taken from the Armed Occupation Act and the Homestead Act for FLA land that was purchased During the period, My records were from 1829 and 1831 and I actually sent away and got copies of the actual receipts from the Land office in Tallahassee. They list the corresponding numbers for the receipts in the text so you can reference them to get the actual copies. I don't know when I will get back to the library but when I do I will look for the title again. - sorry - Bill Brooks, Vista, CA Jack Butler wrote: > > Hi list, > > Does anyone know if records exist anywhere for land sales in Leon County > for the 1820's and 30's? I was looking through the microfilms at the > archives and everything seems to start around 1845. -- --------------------------------------------------- The Brooks Historian - Bill Brooks http://home.fda.net/bbrooks/public_html/brooks.htm http://www.my-ged.com/db/surnames/bbrooks/A bbrooks@fda.net Surnames - BROOKS, BURNEY, FREEMAN, GOFF, GRACE, HALL, MANNING, TAYLOR, WILSON ---------------------------------------------------

Mine are BROOKS,BURNEY,FREEMAN,GOFF,GRACE,HALL,MANNING,TAYLOR, WILSON, KNAPP, EDMUNSON, ARCHER, ... I think that's it... maybe... Jefferson and Leon Co., Thomasville, and the Suwanee area. - Bill Brooks, Vista CA RaybornMC@aol.com wrote: > > Barlow, Coon, Harvill, Hattaway, Milligan, Johnson, Howell in NW FL & AL > Rayborn/Rabun/Raborn etc, Brunson, Clark, Rials, Taylor, in S AL & GA > Comer and Finan in Ireland -- --------------------------------------------------- The Brooks Historian - Bill Brooks http://home.fda.net/bbrooks/public_html/brooks.htm http://www.my-ged.com/db/surnames/bbrooks/A bbrooks@fda.net Surnames - BROOKS, BURNEY, FREEMAN, GOFF, GRACE, HALL, MANNING, TAYLOR, WILSON ---------------------------------------------------

Marianne, Point your browser to <http:\\www.rootsweb.com/~flsgs/>. Then choose FL Pioneers List from the menu boxes (2nd one down on left side) and click your way to the index. Enjoy! Cheers! --Brian ************************************************* James Crews wrote: > > Okay guys, > I guess I am just not smart enough. how do I access the Florida Pioneers > list? I am sure we have more than one on that list in our family and I > would like to obtain records. > > Marianne Crews > mjcrews@cimtel.net > -----Original Message----- > From: Brian E. Michaels <michaels_b@popmail.firn.edu> > To: FLORIDA-L@rootsweb.com <FLORIDA-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: Saturday, April 03, 1999 6:10 PM > Subject: Re: Florida Pioneers > > >Go, Leslie! > > > >Thanks! I guess I've used every other button on our home page ten times, > >but it never occurred to me to look there today. Bless you! > > > >--Brian > >*********************************************** > > > >Maddocks@ix.netcom.com wrote: > >> > >> To Brian and all those interested in an up-to-date list of Florida > Pioneer certificates, check out the Florida State Genealogical Society web > page. The list is through those issued in November 1998. > >> > >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~flsgs/ > >> > >> Leslie Jeffcoat Maddocks > >> FSGS Membership > > > >

Maybe there are some new folks out there who haven't seen my previous post. I'm looking for anything on Andrew C. Gay b. 1844 who is on the 1900 Jefferson Co census with wife, Maria b. 1830 and two sons, Lawson b. 1875 and Rufus b. 1878. Andrew and Maria are on the 1910 census for Jefferson Co. Rufus is next door with wife, Viola(Thompson) and children: Christina, Rufus A., and Andrew. Can't find anything more about Andrew C. Gay. Maria was previously married to James T. Baker. They were my gg-grandparents. Maria had a daughter by James Baker named Mary Elizabeth who md. Enos(Enus) Kiff. Would love to have anything on any of these folks. Andrew's other son, Hugh Lawson md. Ollie C. Wright. Ann Campbell, Conyers, Ga.

Go, Leslie! Thanks! I guess I've used every other button on our home page ten times, but it never occurred to me to look there today. Bless you! --Brian *********************************************** Maddocks@ix.netcom.com wrote: > > To Brian and all those interested in an up-to-date list of Florida Pioneer certificates, check out the Florida State Genealogical Society web page. The list is through those issued in November 1998. > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~flsgs/ > > Leslie Jeffcoat Maddocks > FSGS Membership

Thanks, Richard, I had absolutely forgotten the Leon was cut out of previous counties. Thanks to everyone else with suggestions, too. Jack -----Original Message----- From: Richard White <rwhite@pone.com> To: FLORIDA-L@rootsweb.com <FLORIDA-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Saturday, April 03, 1999 8:49 PM Subject: Re: Leon County Property Records > >To find land records for the area that is now Leon County, you would >look in Gadsden County for 1823 and Escambia and Jackson Counties for >1822, as what is now Leon County was part of those counties in those >years. I don't know the months that the time breaks occur in. This >information is from the Florida GenWeb counties selection list. The >original Florida Counties were created in 1822. > >RW > >"Brian E. Michaels" wrote: >> >> Jack, the last word I had from Leon County (several years ago) was that >> their land records begin in 1825. County formed 1824. >> >> Sheila Martin or Nellie Bird Mims or other TGS folks, can you verify? >> >> Thanks! -Brian in Palatka >> ********************************************************** >> Jack Butler wrote: >> > >> > Hi list, >> > >> > Does anyone know if records exist anywhere for land sales in Leon County >> > for the 1820's and 30's? I was looking through the microfilms at the >> > archives and everything seems to start around 1845. >

To find land records for the area that is now Leon County, you would look in Gadsden County for 1823 and Escambia and Jackson Counties for 1822, as what is now Leon County was part of those counties in those years. I don't know the months that the time breaks occur in. This information is from the Florida GenWeb counties selection list. The original Florida Counties were created in 1822. RW "Brian E. Michaels" wrote: > > Jack, the last word I had from Leon County (several years ago) was that > their land records begin in 1825. County formed 1824. > > Sheila Martin or Nellie Bird Mims or other TGS folks, can you verify? > > Thanks! -Brian in Palatka > ********************************************************** > Jack Butler wrote: > > > > Hi list, > > > > Does anyone know if records exist anywhere for land sales in Leon County > > for the 1820's and 30's? I was looking through the microfilms at the > > archives and everything seems to start around 1845.

I'm researching Strickland, Cooey, Williams, Jones -- all from Holmes County (at least as far as I have gotten). Cathy Strickland Popp

--part1_1d444fb5.24384718_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have also come across death certificates when a will has had to go to probate. You might want to check the probate records at the Jackson County Courthouse in Mariana FL. Cathy Strickland Popp --part1_1d444fb5.24384718_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: <FLORIDA-L-request@rootsweb.com> Received: from rly-zc01.mx.aol.com (rly-zc01.mail.aol.com [172.31.33.1]) by air-zc03.mail.aol.com (v59.4) with SMTP; Sat, 03 Apr 1999 13:10:13 -0500 Received: from bl-14.rootsweb.com (bl-14.rootsweb.com [204.212.38.30]) by rly-zc01.mx.aol.com (8.8.8/8.8.5/AOL-4.0.0) with ESMTP id NAA17578; Sat, 3 Apr 1999 13:09:57 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by bl-14.rootsweb.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA20636; Sat, 3 Apr 1999 10:08:45 -0800 (PST) Resent-Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 10:08:45 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 03 Apr 1999 13:08:50 -0500 From: "Brian E. Michaels" <michaels_b@popmail.firn.edu> Subject: Re: death records Old-To: Brenda Antal <bantal@magicnet.net> Old-Cc: FLORIDA-L@rootsweb.com Message-id: <37065932.4282258F@popmail.firn.edu> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (Win95; I) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit References: <002001be7dfb$31231a80$27c906d0@jantal.ppp> Resent-Message-ID: <"q4rSX.A.-BF.sklB3"@bl-14.rootsweb.com> To: FLORIDA-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: FLORIDA-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: <FLORIDA-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/2938 X-Loop: FLORIDA-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: FLORIDA-L-request@rootsweb.com Reply-To: michaels_b@popmail.firn.edu Brenda, As in all such indexes, there is a fairly good chance of such an error. There is a probably equal chance in the 1920s, especially in rural areas, that the certificate either was not issued or was not forwarded to the state vital statistics office.. I have on several occasions found a certificate in a county health department when the state office in Jacksonville knew nothing of its existence. I'd recommend that you check both the county health department--asking them specifically to check the original certificate books that they should have but may not want to fool with--and the city, if the death was within their limits. Have you tried any local funeral home(s)? Sometimes they have copies--even in fairly early cases. If you have or can get a newspaper obituary, it MAY identify the funeral home. If they're out of business, someone may have or know the location of their records. [My guess: It is highly unlikely that anybody short of the governor himself could get Jacksonville to go through the original certificates there, even if they all still exist, which I doubt. And I'm not sure the governor himself could get it done well.] Hope this helps. --Brian Michaels **************************************** Brenda Antal wrote: > > With all the talk of vital records: I wonder about the chances of people > being left off the death index while there could in fact be a death > certificate. > > My gggrandfather, Zeb R Jones died in Graceville, Jackson Co, FL on Nov 19, > 1927 or 1928. I would have expected a death certificate. I checked the > death index myself and did not find it. State of FL says there is none. > > Does anyone know if the vital stat office checks the certificates or just > the index? Is there a reliable way to have them search the certificates? > > Thanks for any help, > Brenda > > Jones: GA>AL>FL > Paulk: GA>FL > Crawford: SC?>GA>FL > Griffin: GA>FL --part1_1d444fb5.24384718_boundary--

Have you checked the Leon County GenWeb site, they have a lot of land records online. Great material thanks to Duke Vickery. "Brian E. Michaels" wrote: > > Jack, the last word I had from Leon County (several years ago) was that > their land records begin in 1825. County formed 1824. > > Sheila Martin or Nellie Bird Mims or other TGS folks, can you verify? > > Thanks! -Brian in Palatka > ********************************************************** > Jack Butler wrote: > > > > Hi list, > > > > Does anyone know if records exist anywhere for land sales in Leon County > > for the 1820's and 30's? I was looking through the microfilms at the > > archives and everything seems to start around 1845. -- L. L. Scott, IBSSG L. L. Scott's Virtual Office: http://www.geocities.com/~llscott/ BEAR/ BRANNAN/ BRICKER/ BRIDGE/ BACKUS/ BRAUN/ DOTY/ HARPER/ HATCH/ PLANK

Brenda, If you don't find your death record in the places Brian suggests, you might also check Jackson County for probate records. I found information about one of my great-grandfathers using that method when no death certificate was located in Jacksonville or at the county health department. There was a will and various attached documents, so I was able to validate the death date I had from family records. Lots of interesting papers! Kathleen kmarsh@innet.com

To Brian and all those interested in an up-to-date list of Florida Pioneer certificates, check out the Florida State Genealogical Society web page. The list is through those issued in November 1998. http://www.rootsweb.com/~flsgs/ Leslie Jeffcoat Maddocks FSGS Membership

Jack, the last word I had from Leon County (several years ago) was that their land records begin in 1825. County formed 1824. Sheila Martin or Nellie Bird Mims or other TGS folks, can you verify? Thanks! -Brian in Palatka ********************************************************** Jack Butler wrote: > > Hi list, > > Does anyone know if records exist anywhere for land sales in Leon County > for the 1820's and 30's? I was looking through the microfilms at the > archives and everything seems to start around 1845.

Hi list, Does anyone know if records exist anywhere for land sales in Leon County for the 1820's and 30's? I was looking through the microfilms at the archives and everything seems to start around 1845.

Thanks so much for the ideas Brian, I'll check both the funeral homes and county health dept. So glad you've joined the list. Brenda >As in all such indexes, there is a fairly good chance of such an error. >There is a probably equal chance in the 1920s, especially in rural >areas, that the certificate either was not issued or was not forwarded >to the state vital statistics office.. > >I have on several occasions found a certificate in a county health >department when the state office in Jacksonville knew nothing of its >existence. I'd recommend that you check both the county health >department--asking them specifically to check the original certificate >books that they should have but may not want to fool with--and the city, >if the death was within their limits. > >Have you tried any local funeral home(s)? Sometimes they have >copies--even in fairly early cases. If you have or can get a newspaper >obituary, it MAY identify the funeral home. If they're out of business, >someone may have or know the location of their records. > >[My guess: It is highly unlikely that anybody short of the governor >himself could get Jacksonville to go through the original certificates >there, even if they all still exist, which I doubt. And I'm not sure the >governor himself could get it done well.] > >Hope this helps. --Brian Michaels >**************************************** >Brenda Antal wrote: >> >> With all the talk of vital records: I wonder about the chances of people >> being left off the death index while there could in fact be a death >> certificate. >> >> My gggrandfather, Zeb R Jones died in Graceville, Jackson Co, FL on Nov 19, >> 1927 or 1928. I would have expected a death certificate. I checked the >> death index myself and did not find it. State of FL says there is none. >> >> Does anyone know if the vital stat office checks the certificates or just >> the index? Is there a reliable way to have them search the certificates? >> >> Thanks for any help, >> Brenda >> >> Jones: GA>AL>FL >> Paulk: GA>FL >> Crawford: SC?>GA>FL >> Griffin: GA>FL >

Brenda, I once found that a death certificate never made it to the State Vital Records Office, but I did find the death recorded at the County Office. You might want to try both sources. Lynn -----Original Message----- From: Brenda Antal <bantal@magicnet.net> To: FLORIDA-L@rootsweb.com <FLORIDA-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Saturday, April 03, 1999 12:53 PM Subject: death records >With all the talk of vital records: I wonder about the chances of people >being left off the death index while there could in fact be a death >certificate. > >My gggrandfather, Zeb R Jones died in Graceville, Jackson Co, FL on Nov 19, >1927 or 1928. I would have expected a death certificate. I checked the >death index myself and did not find it. State of FL says there is none. > >Does anyone know if the vital stat office checks the certificates or just >the index? Is there a reliable way to have them search the certificates? > >Thanks for any help, >Brenda > >Jones: GA>AL>FL >Paulk: GA>FL >Crawford: SC?>GA>FL >Griffin: GA>FL >

Brenda, As in all such indexes, there is a fairly good chance of such an error. There is a probably equal chance in the 1920s, especially in rural areas, that the certificate either was not issued or was not forwarded to the state vital statistics office.. I have on several occasions found a certificate in a county health department when the state office in Jacksonville knew nothing of its existence. I'd recommend that you check both the county health department--asking them specifically to check the original certificate books that they should have but may not want to fool with--and the city, if the death was within their limits. Have you tried any local funeral home(s)? Sometimes they have copies--even in fairly early cases. If you have or can get a newspaper obituary, it MAY identify the funeral home. If they're out of business, someone may have or know the location of their records. [My guess: It is highly unlikely that anybody short of the governor himself could get Jacksonville to go through the original certificates there, even if they all still exist, which I doubt. And I'm not sure the governor himself could get it done well.] Hope this helps. --Brian Michaels **************************************** Brenda Antal wrote: > > With all the talk of vital records: I wonder about the chances of people > being left off the death index while there could in fact be a death > certificate. > > My gggrandfather, Zeb R Jones died in Graceville, Jackson Co, FL on Nov 19, > 1927 or 1928. I would have expected a death certificate. I checked the > death index myself and did not find it. State of FL says there is none. > > Does anyone know if the vital stat office checks the certificates or just > the index? Is there a reliable way to have them search the certificates? > > Thanks for any help, > Brenda > > Jones: GA>AL>FL > Paulk: GA>FL > Crawford: SC?>GA>FL > Griffin: GA>FL

With all the talk of vital records: I wonder about the chances of people being left off the death index while there could in fact be a death certificate. My gggrandfather, Zeb R Jones died in Graceville, Jackson Co, FL on Nov 19, 1927 or 1928. I would have expected a death certificate. I checked the death index myself and did not find it. State of FL says there is none. Does anyone know if the vital stat office checks the certificates or just the index? Is there a reliable way to have them search the certificates? Thanks for any help, Brenda Jones: GA>AL>FL Paulk: GA>FL Crawford: SC?>GA>FL Griffin: GA>FL

Bob, I'm getting old feeble and slow, and this has been a more-than-busy week, so I neglected to tell you that I have privately e-mailed two well-known and highly competent friends with better sources and more knowledge if they can help w/your request. They're not as old and slow as I, but I've not heard from them yet, though I expect that I will soon. Your Burneys and Bowens do not appear to be in FL PIONEERS AND THEIR DESCENDANTS, VOL. I (published by FSGS, 1992). There are eight Bowens in the excellent FLORIDA REGISTRATION LISTS 1867-68 (published by the Tallahassee GS, 1992). There is a Wright W. Bowen in the latter book in Precinct 3, Hernando County, but if your Wright/Right A. really was killed, he wouldn't have been in there anyway. I was checking the legend to see if he perhaps had survived. This result, of course, proves nothing either way. If you like, I'll query the archives to see if one of the Bowen/Burney connection might have been proved as a FL Pioneer since the book came out. Let me know. In the meantime, I'll wait to hear from the other two queries I've got out. As to the FL Deaths online, not that I've heard of. (Devoutly to be wished, but....) Have you tried the indexed FL USPC for 1910 to narrow their deaths down to a decade? I'll be glad to check when I can get to the library again, since they probably were dead by 1922, but one never knows. Good luck! --Brian Michaels P.S. You've really flourished in CA for more than thirty years? That's hardy Florida stock! *********************************************** Robert Keating wrote: > > Researching Bowen, DeSha, Parrish, Whitehead,(FL, GA), Keating, O'Leary, (KY), > Cosner, Crotty (PA) > > Is there a FL Death List on line? I've not been able to find my GGrandparents or > GGGrandparents, burial site or date. I have the census record from 1900 in Tampa, > Hillsborough County, but haven't found any reference to when and where they died. > My GGM was Mary Oliver DeSha Bowen, born in Waldo, FL on May 13, 1860. My GGF was > Wright Bowen, born in GA in November 1849. His father, , my GGGF, Wright or Right > A. Bowen, born 1827 in GA, listed as registered voter in first FL election in > 1845 in Madison County, Precinct #3, listed in the Seminole War roster and a > carpenter in Santa Rosa County, FL 1850 Census, and fought for the CSA in > Florida 3rd Inf. Co. C. Wife was Clementine, born 1824 in AL. The legend is he > was killed near the end of the Civil War. Any help for these old Florida pioneers > would be great. > > I live way out here in California and can't get to the state libraries. I'd > appreciate the help. > > Thanks, > Bob Keating > > "Brian E. Michaels" wrote: > > > <snip>

Researching Bowen, DeSha, Parrish, Whitehead,(FL, GA), Keating, O'Leary, (KY), Cosner, Crotty (PA) Is there a FL Death List on line? I've not been able to find my GGrandparents or GGGrandparents, burial site or date. I have the census record from 1900 in Tampa, Hillsborough County, but haven't found any reference to when and where they died. My GGM was Mary Oliver DeSha Bowen, born in Waldo, FL on May 13, 1860. My GGF was Wright Bowen, born in GA in November 1849. His father, , my GGGF, Wright or Right A. Bowen, born 1827 in GA, listed as registered voter in first FL election in 1845 in Madison County, Precinct #3 , listed in the Seminole War roster and a carpenter in Santa Rosa County, FL 1850 Census, and fought for the CSA in Florida 3rd Inf. Co. C. Wife was Clementine, born 1824 in AL. The legend is he was killed near the end of the Civil War. Any help for these old Florida pioneers would be great. I live way out here in California and can't get to the state libraries. I'd appreciate the help. Thanks, Bob Keating "Brian E. Michaels" wrote: > Mike, the request for the d.c. is gone to the state. > > By the way, those "ref #s"] are our postal codes (called ZIP codes); > they identify the post office for a given address. More, later. > > FL LIST: anybody know anything of the Allan McInnes (1894-1977) below? > Thanks! > > --Brian Michaels > ******************************************* > M. Scott-Williams wrote: > > > > Yeah, I am sure it is she as well, Brian. I did a crazy thing yesterday. I > > had such a good connection at one stage, I downloaded every single McInnes > > from the S.S.D.I. There were 507 of them! I fine tuned the husband > > possibilities down to 11 individuals, that is, those with about the right > > birth dates, and the "Florida" common denominator. My favorite is Allan > > McInnes, b 11 June 1894, died Feb '77, died Miami, Dade County, ref 33138, > > Soc. Sec No. 266-32-9396. > > Amazing the things we'll do, if a lead is hot! > > > > Thanks for the friendly communications, > > > > Regards, > > > > Mike > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Brian E. Michaels <michaels_b@popmail.firn.edu> > > To: pix <ms73@pixie.co.za> > > Date: 02 April 1999 05:36 > > Subject: Re: Heloise Scott-Williams > > > > >Mike, I was just referring to her as Heloise McInnes who was born with > > >the surname Scott-Williams. I don't know that this was she, but if I had > > >to bet on it, I'd bet that it is.... > > > > > >Will post this to the Florida list in the hope Renee will see the > > >thank-you and/or that someone else will know or can suggest something. > > >I'll order the death certificate today. > > > > > >Good luck! --Brian > > >*********************************** > > >pix wrote: > > >> > > >> Hi Brian. > > >> Thank you ever so much for your most welcome response. > > >> When I mentioned I had been looking for this connection for forty years I > > >> wasn't joking! She left the family here under a bit of a cloud, and the > > >> single letter she wrote from Mass. wasn't very complimentary, according > > to > > >> my late father. All contact with family in England came to an abrupt halt > > >> after her visit there as well, so whatever bee she had in her bonnet > > didn't > > >> bode well for those in South Africa. By the time I started taking an > > >> interest, in the late 50's, memories had dimmed to about nothing. > > >> I was pretty sure about Heloise McInnes being the only one in the > > S.S.D.I. > > >> fitting the bill, but am a little confused by your wording......"Mike, as > > >> you apparently found out, there is only one "Heloise Mc-anything" with > > the > > >> birthdate you list for your aunt, Heloise McInnes (nee Scott-Williams) in > > >> the SSDI nationwide." > > >> Does this mean you can confirm she was a Miss. Scott-Williams? Probably > > not, > > >> because you go on to say..... > > >> "If she is the correct one, ........." > > >> > > >> Never mind, I would very much like a copy of the death certificate, I > > agree > > >> it is the only way to go at present, and I appreciate your kind offer no > > >> end. A few more weeks won't make any difference after 40 years! > > >> Could you also please thank Renee Pierce for her input? > > >> > > >> My snail-address is below, > > >> > > >> Regards, > > >> > > >> Mike > > >> > > >> ----------------------------------- > > >> Mike Scott-Williams > > >> P.O. Box 362, Hilton, 3245. > > >> South Africa > > >