I should add that the legislature at one point designated "colleges" calling them academies and envisioned on in east florida and one in west florida, and the law specifies the Suwanee River as the dividing line. Thus the "West Florida Academy" was created in Tallahassee...and if you follow through its "genealogy," it ultimately became FSU. The most common designation for middle Florida that I've seen is the area between the Apalachicola and the Suwanee Rivers. Everything west and east of those physical distinctions were west and east florida. This may be simply because Escambia as one of the first counties created in Florida had as its eastern boundary, the Suwanee River. Dean Dean DeBolt University Librarian Special Collections and West Florida Archives John C. Pace Library University of West Florida 11000 University Parkway Pensacola, FL 32514-5750 Tele: 850-474-2213; Fax: 850-474-3338

There is a set of the books in the Florida Room of the Florida State Library in Tallahassee. ----- Original Message ----- From: SimplySouth <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, June 09, 2002 9:28 PM Subject: [FLORIDA] Seminole Indian War Muster Rolls - location of > A list member inquired as to source of Seminole Indian War records....and > below is the information I have......in case anyone else needs it.....or can > add additional resource info...... > ---------------------------- > > Published by : > Florida Department of Military Affairs > Special Archives Publication Number 67 > "Seminole Militia Muster Rolls, Seminole Indian Wars" Vol's. 1-10 > State Arsenal, St. Francis Barracks, St. Augustine, Florida > No publication date given....... > > The work was published in limited numbers .... It is an excellent resource > covering the 2nd and 3rd Seminole Wars....I got my copies directly from the > Historical Services Division at the State Arsenal, but I do not know where > other copies are located.....maybe some other kind soul could provide that > information to the list.... > > Here is the contact information for the State Arsenal > > State of Florida > Department of Military Affairs > Historical Services Division > P.O. Box 1008 > St. Augustine, Florida 32085-1008 > > Deborah > --------------------------- > Sent: Sunday, June 09, 2002 10:06 AM > To: SimplySouth > Subject: Re: [FLORIDA] EAST-WEST Florida -Question ? > > Deborah: Could you email the: Title, pub. date, publishers, author, if there > is one, of the Volumes that you are > quoting? As my first record of my GGGrandfather is 1836 in a militia muster > roll I am very interested in the > 2nd S/M War. If for nothing else to do a time line of him. Thanks > >

A list member inquired as to source of Seminole Indian War records....and below is the information I have......in case anyone else needs it.....or can add additional resource info...... ---------------------------- Published by : Florida Department of Military Affairs Special Archives Publication Number 67 "Seminole Militia Muster Rolls, Seminole Indian Wars" Vol's. 1-10 State Arsenal, St. Francis Barracks, St. Augustine, Florida No publication date given....... The work was published in limited numbers .... It is an excellent resource covering the 2nd and 3rd Seminole Wars....I got my copies directly from the Historical Services Division at the State Arsenal, but I do not know where other copies are located.....maybe some other kind soul could provide that information to the list.... Here is the contact information for the State Arsenal State of Florida Department of Military Affairs Historical Services Division P.O. Box 1008 St. Augustine, Florida 32085-1008 Deborah --------------------------- Sent: Sunday, June 09, 2002 10:06 AM To: SimplySouth Subject: Re: [FLORIDA] EAST-WEST Florida -Question ? Deborah: Could you email the: Title, pub. date, publishers, author, if there is one, of the Volumes that you are quoting? As my first record of my GGGrandfather is 1836 in a militia muster roll I am very interested in the 2nd S/M War. If for nothing else to do a time line of him. Thanks

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Dear Genealogy Patrons: I am pleased to announce to those of you who have been very patient this past year waiting for our construction to end, that the Indian River County Main Library, Florida History & Genealogy Department is now back in full operation. It has been a very long and difficult year, but the results are outstanding. For pictures, please go to the following web site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~flindian/ircl/ Within the next few months, we will be receiving new computers (approximately 10-15), microfilm equipment (2), laser printers (3-4) and a copier. For those of you who are researching in Florida, we have added courthouse records for the following counties: Gadsden, Jackson, Seminole, Sumter. For a complete listing of all our Florida courthouse records, click here: http://www.rootsweb.com/~flindian/ircl/flacourt.pdf (This is for Acrobat Reader only.) I am looking forward to seeing you in our newly updated and expanded facility. Later, I will be announcing the date for our grand re-opening. I hope that many of you will attend. Pam Cooper Supervisor, Florida History & Genealogy Department FGS/FSGS 2003 National Conference Co-Chair President, FSGS -------------------------------- Countdown to Discovery - A World of Hidden Treasures FGS/FSGS 2003 Conference - 3-6 September at the Renaissance Orlando Resort http://www.fgs.org/2003conf/FGS-2003.htm ------------------------------- Are you a member of the Florida State Genealogical Society? If not, visit our web page to find out how to become a part of a great organization. http://www.rootsweb.com/~flsgs/ ****************************************************** Pamela J. Cooper P. O. Box 7066 Vero Beach, FL 32961-7066 Email: [email protected] Fax: 775-924-5038

Reseachers, I am seeking information on the descendants of Gregory Thomas born in North Carolina (Duplin Co.) to William and Celia (Gregory) Thomas. He was born in the late 1700's and died after 1820. Also seeking information on any brothers and sisters. George Thomas Green Cove Springs, FL

I guess it is "Location, Location, Location!" <G> From Seminole Indian War Record the following interesting entries: Vol. 4, page 35 Re: Muster Roll of Lieutenant Celestino Gonzalez's Detachment Company of the 1st Regiment, 1st Brigade of the Florida Militia ....... Certified a true muster on 25th July 1838 by Celestino Gonzalez, commanding the Company. Station: Pensacola, E.F. Certified true the same day and place by Captain D. H. VINTON, Inspector & Mustering Officer. {note where Pensacola is stated as located here ...} Vol. 5, pp 58-59 Re: Muster Roll of Capt. Elijah Johnson's Company of the 7th Reg., First Brigade of the FL Militia (Enrolled at Tallahassee) Certified a true muster by Capt. Elijah Johnson on 7th August; Station: Camp Harney. [1840] Certified a true muster by J. Green, Lt. Col., 6th Art'y. Commanding the District West of the Suwannee.,Inspector and Muster Office {Lt. Col. Green apparently envisions 2 divisions - East of the Suwannee and West of the Suwannee......} Vol. 6, pp 64-65 Re: Muster roll of Captain Thomas Langford's company of Florida Militia Mounted Volunteers............ By signature on 13 July 1840 at Camp Independence, Madison County, Middle Florida , Capt. Thos. Langford commanding the Company, certified the muster to be true and accurate "in every particular." ............ {As far as Capt. Langford was concerned he was in Middle Florida.....} Vol. 7, page 9 Re: Muster Roll of Capt. George R. McElvy's Company of Regiment of Regiment of Florida Mounted Militia, ...... I certify, on honor, that this Muster Roll exhibits the true state of Capt. George R. McElvy's Company of Florida Mounted Militia for the period herein mentioned that the remarks set opposite the name of each officer and soldier was accurate and just. Signed by George R. McElvy, Capt., Commanding the Company Date: 10 December [1840] Station: Tallahassee, W. Fla {here we are to West Florida, even though most entries indicate Tallahassee as Middle Florida} I could keep pulling the discrepancies of locations and demarcations, not only from the SIW records, but others records as well, but I conclude that in the 1800's, persons were as unsure about "locations" as I am........even the "Map of the Seat of War in Florida" executed in 1839 by order of Brig. Gen. Zachary Taylor to identify the forts and other important locations , is incomplete on many fort locations and names...... I want to thank all the terrific responses I have received on this issue....Each was informative .......I do not think there is an exact answer to my question for the time frame past the Spanish relinquishment of Florida to America...... I had hoped there was an official document on the matter.... Again thank you all...... Deborah

Dean... Every military record I have seen of Florida militia units raised in the 2d Seminole War has the EF, MF designations (if WF was used I haven't noticed it), and the Federal Court in Tallahassee is still known as that of Middle Florida to this day ( http://www.flmd.uscourts.gov/ ). These designations have certainly continued in use... Dean DeBolt wrote: > > There is no such thing as east and west florida after 1821. > Jackson was appointed Governor of the Floridas...so both > halves were unified. > > Since the Florida peninsula was virtually uninhabited until > after the Civil War, there are references to regional "west > florida" (generally area west of Apalachicola), "middle > florida" (Tallahassee region and central Florida), and > "east florida" being St. Augustine/Jacksonville areas. > But these designations are purely localized terms and > not legal entities in any form. > > Dean > > Dean DeBolt > University Librarian > Special Collections and West Florida Archives > John C. Pace Library > University of West Florida > 11000 University Parkway > Pensacola, FL 32514-5750 > Tele: 850-474-2213; Fax: 850-474-3338

Dear Dean, Thank you for the clarification..... I am working with military, land , and many misc. records that make reference to the "designations" of EF, WF, and MF, and used extensively in those records, but was uncertain what areas/counties were associated with the designations and when ......am trying to marry-up various records in an attempt to sort out my many early FL family groups......too many same names.... Deborah -----Original Message----- From: Dean DeBolt [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Saturday, June 08, 2002 3:15 PM To: SimplySouth; [email protected] Subject: Re: [FLORIDA] EAST-WEST Florida -Question ? There is no such thing as east and west florida after 1821. Jackson was appointed Governor of the Floridas...so both halves were unified. Since the Florida peninsula was virtually uninhabited until after the Civil War, there are references to regional "west florida" (generally area west of Apalachicola), "middle florida" (Tallahassee region and central Florida), and "east florida" being St. Augustine/Jacksonville areas. But these designations are purely localized terms and not legal entities in any form. Dean Dean DeBolt University Librarian Special Collections and West Florida Archives John C. Pace Library University of West Florida 11000 University Parkway Pensacola, FL 32514-5750 Tele: 850-474-2213; Fax: 850-474-3338

In 1828, the minutes of the Superior Court held at Newnansville was titled "District of East Florida, Alachua County, Superior Court December Term 1828.... http://www.clerk-alachua-fl.org/Archive/AncientJ/FrontPage.cfm?DID=4&BID=662 So we are talking about districts after the area became a territory. Then this is something submitted to one of my sites. It is "RESOLUTIONS AND MEMORIAL TO CONGRESS BY INHABITANTS OF EAST FLORIDA". It is dated August 29, 1839. The inhabitants of East Florida are requesting that the Floridas be divided before entering the Union as a state(s). http://www.usgennet.org/usa/fl/county/alachua/Harn/Harn12.html Jim Jim Powell Jr Ancient Records Coordinator & Webmaster Alachua County Clerk of the Court Http://www.clerk-alachua-fl.org/archive/default.cfm Volunteers Wanted... http://www.clerk-alachua-fl.org/Archive/CFDocs/VolunHelp.cfm > > There is no such thing as east and west florida after 1821. > Jackson was appointed Governor of the Floridas...so both > halves were unified. > > Since the Florida peninsula was virtually uninhabited until > after the Civil War, there are references to regional "west > florida" (generally area west of Apalachicola), "middle > florida" (Tallahassee region and central Florida), and > "east florida" being St. Augustine/Jacksonville areas. > But these designations are purely localized terms and > not legal entities in any form. > > Dean > > Dean DeBolt > University Librarian > Special Collections and West Florida Archives > John C. Pace Library > University of West Florida > 11000 University Parkway > Pensacola, FL 32514-5750 > Tele: 850-474-2213; Fax: 850-474-3338 > >

There is no such thing as east and west florida after 1821. Jackson was appointed Governor of the Floridas...so both halves were unified. Since the Florida peninsula was virtually uninhabited until after the Civil War, there are references to regional "west florida" (generally area west of Apalachicola), "middle florida" (Tallahassee region and central Florida), and "east florida" being St. Augustine/Jacksonville areas. But these designations are purely localized terms and not legal entities in any form. Dean Dean DeBolt University Librarian Special Collections and West Florida Archives John C. Pace Library University of West Florida 11000 University Parkway Pensacola, FL 32514-5750 Tele: 850-474-2213; Fax: 850-474-3338

I have a map on the lines of East/West Florida prior to 1821, but I need to know what was considered East /West FL after that point. I have info that states that East FL was those areas east of the Suwannee River and everything west was West Florida then I found information stating the line was the Chattahoochee River ..... Then I find reference to Middle FL Is there anyone that can explain the lines and if and when they changed...? Am working with Seminole Indian War records ...... Please respond to the list as this may be of interest to others..... Thank you in advance. Deborah

I recently read in a book on Florida History about the legal description on the dividing line and it was something like certain number of degrees west, etc. But if you will look at this web site of maps you will get a good understanding of the division lines. The East and West FL is the Apalachicola River. http://www.libs.uga.edu/darchive/hargrett/maps/expand.html ===== Alvie L. Davidson CGRS Lakeland, Florida http://www.floridadetective.net "Keep smiling and keep 'em guessing what you are up to!" __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com

BOWEN, WILLIAM HILL, JR Hill was born September 12, 1925 in Monticello, FL and passed from this life June 3, 2002 at Hospice House, Tallahassee, FL. He was predeceased by his parents, William Hill (Bill) Bowen, Sr. and Bessie Clark Bowen and is survived by his sisters, Frances Bowers, Monticello, FL and Madelon Beecher, O'Brien, FL. Hill served our country as a Corporal during the Korean Conflict and after discharge he resided in Malibu Beach, CA for many years. Upon retirement he returned to Monticello, FL. His request will be honored for private, family only, graveside services with burial in Roseland Cemetery, Monticello.

6/1/02 The Quintilla Geer Bruton Archives Center of the East Hillsborough Historical Society , 605 North Collins Street, Plant City FL 33566 (813) 754-7031 will sponsor the following genealogy classes: Tuesday, June 4th at 6:00 p.m. - 7:00 p.m.(note 6 p.m. starting time) "Hunting for Those Elusive Hard-shell Baptists ...Looking for your Primitive Baptist Ancestors" Guest Lecturer, Alvie Davidson Tuesday, June 18, 2002 - 7:00 - 8:00 p.m. "What's A... Discusses genealogical terms that may be misunderstood by or unfamiliar to people" Guest Lecturer, Roberta Jordan Fee per class $5.00 pre-registration preferred. email to: [email protected] Classes and events posted to our website http://www/rootsweb.com/~flqgbac Shelby Bender Volunteer Director

I found this on the Anc.com's "All Database List" on the L page. It lists that it is free... ?? http://www.ancestry.com/search/rectype/inddbs/5465.htm Does it take just states? If anyone can figure it out, I would appreciate an email back to tell 'me how'. I have WEBTV/Internet device, not a computer. Maybe that is the problem?? thanks, [email protected]

Here is an article about the search for those responsible for the cemetery now. Original trustees mentioned in 1907 are deceased. http://www.theledger.com/local/east_polk/31ceme.htm

If it's what I think it is, the microfilm is also at the Genealogical Library in Bartow. I was looking at it there on 5/25. William H. Caldwell (6020 Porter Drive Harrison, Tennessee 37341 423/344-5674 -----Original Message----- From: Pam Cooper (Hall) <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Friday, May 10, 2002 2:07 PM Subject: RE: [FLORIDA] Military Cemetery at St. Francis Barracks, St. Augustine?? >Hello Pat and All: >The Florida State Genealogical Society has been publishing in their >quarterly "The Florida Genealogist" an index (by Cathy Burnsed) of the >"Veteran's Graves Registration Project." This indexes soldiers from all over >the state for all wars (to WWI) and was a project of the WPA. It is on >microfilm and there are only five locations: Bay County Public Library, >Florida State Archives, Indian River County Main Library, and University of >Florida Library West. > >However, the quarterly is located in many libraries throughout Florida. You >can find out what libraries own the quarterly from this web site: >http://www.rootsweb.com/~flsgs/fgholdings.htm Be aware that this is not a >complete listing. FSGS is still trying to locate all respositories. > >Currently, the index in the FSGS quarterly is about half way through the >alphabet. The veterans cards are sometimes very revealing. They provide a >lot more information then what can be found in the cemetery. It appears that >information was reseached on each soldier for this project. > >Good Luck! > >Pam > >- ----------------------------------------- >Pamela J. Cooper, Supervisor >Indian River County Main Library >Florida History & Genealogy Department >1600 21st Street >Vero Beach, FL 32960 >772-770-5060 Fax: 772-770-5066 >Email: [email protected] > >-----Original Message----- >From: Pat [mailto:[email protected]] >Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 8:21 AM >To: [email protected] >Subject: [FLORIDA] Military Cemetery at St. Francis Barracks, St. >Augustine?? > > >I am looking for info on the Military Cemetery at St. Francis Barracks, >St. Augustine, FL. Is there an index of the soldiers (for Florida Indian >Wars) buried there? > >thank you. >Pat >[email protected] > >I am researching: >Pendarvis/Williams >http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~pendarvisinflorida/index.html > >Lew/Lewelling/Lewellen Williams of Alachua Co, FL >http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~lewwilliams/index.html > >Elijah Creel & Vina Dearman of Lauderdale Co, MS & Mobile Co, AL >http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~creelcrealdearman/index.html > >C C Wiggins & Mattie Owen(s) of Choctaw Co, AL >http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~ccwigginsfamily/index.html > >______________________________

Hi After receiving some most invaluable help from this list I have managed to obtain a death certificate of my gt grandfather's cousin's wife. She died in March 1920 in St Augustine, St John's County & her death certificate states that she was buried in 'Ever Green Cemetery'. Could anyone please supply me with an address for this cemetery to enable me to write there to find out who else was buried with her. I am assuming that her husband would later be buried there & wish to find out when he died. Thank you so much. Kind regards Judith Kettlewell [again]

Ok people I am back. I have new information and I hope it leads somewhere. My aunt's is named Edith Glasel ( a is umlaut) and could be spelled as Glaesel and she was born Jan 15 1932 in Kronach Germany. She married in Kronach to Otto Frenzel. They then immigrated to the US in Florida. Last we heard from them was about 1969. Any help? I appreciate anything. Barbara --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup