Would the List Administrator please contact me? I have a question. Thanks! Liz Gerlits [email protected]

Alvie, I could not get the link to work. I found the article and had a site shorten the link. It will take you to the site, then forward. It was such an important article, I hope you don't mind. http://makeashorterlink.com/?W27665633 I do think the suggested closing goes more to his philosophy than to the class size amendment, though. Before someone jumps down my throat, though, think about it. Read his inaugural speech this time. A quote: "There would be no greater tribute to our maturity as a society than if we can make these buildings around us empty of workers, silent monuments to the time when government played a larger role than it deserved or could adequately fill." He wants government buildings empty, and wants government out of the business of funding things. He said it himself, I did not. This is a statement of fact, not a political view. I did not vote for the class size amendment for reasons of my own, but this is serious. This will probably happen if people do not speak up. Would it be better at a college? My opinion is no. Would a university with its own funding being cut be able to preserve such a library? Funding is being cut drastically to universities. How will the move of the library be handled financially? This is not being caused by the bullet train or the class size amendment, it would have happened anyway. No one mentions that the class size costs would be spread out over ten years, in other words divide by ten. It is so much more serious than just genealogists. People with catastrophic illnesses are being left without medical care or access to their drugs. The library is only a very small part of it. Thousands more state workers will be laid off. In fact, many already have. If you go to www.congress.org and type in your zip code for the state, you can find the phone numbers and email addresses for your state congress people. It is easy to use. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alvie L. Davidson CGRS" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 7:34 AM Subject: [FLORIDA] Florida State Library Closure?? > > > > TALLAHASSEE -- Gov. Jeb Bush warned voters for months that a constitutional amendment to reduce class sizes would be exorbitantly expensive. On Tuesday, he named his price. > The Republican's proposed state budget for 2003-04 would require hundreds of millions of dollars in spending cuts for universities, juvenile crime prevention and health care for the poor. University tuition would rise by up to 12.5 percent. The governor proposes closing the state library, which would save $3-million and eliminate 41 jobs. One proposal is to transfer the library and its extensive collection of state historical materials to Florida State University, which wants the prestigious archive. > > Bush's spending proposal for next year faces exhaustive review by lawmakers, including Senate hearings aimed at generating public opposition to his plan > > > > The full article can be found at: > > http://www.sptimes.com/2003/01/22/State/Bush__Tough_times > > > > Gloria Colvin, Florida Library Association Communications Coordinator, provided us with additional information. She says: > I have verified the following with the Secretary of State's Press Office. While details are still emerging, it is clear that under the Governor's budget plan the Division of Library and Information Services would be eliminated. Parts of the Division would be retained and moved from the Department of State to other state agencies. The Library Development arm, which administers the federal LSTA program and State Aid to Libraries, is slated to be incorporated into a newly formed "Department of State and Community Partnerships." The state archives will be moved to the Department of Environmental Protection, and the records management function will move to the Department of Management Services. The library itself, which provides library services to state agencies, libraries throughout the state, and the general public and manages the State Documents Program, would be eliminated all together with its collections dispersed. > > > > What does this mean to Florida genealogists? As George Miller, Florida State Genealogical Society board member, has said: > > > > We need to obtain as many facts as possible so as to evaluate the full impact of this announcement to genealogists, particularly as pertains to the state historical records and the Florida Pioneer Descendant Certificate Program records we have placed with the State Archives. That will help us determine the 'next steps.' > > On obtaining a full understanding of the issues, we may communicate with the FGS/NGS Records Preservation and Access Committee (RP&AC) and request assistance and guidance. We could use some guidance on how to make sure that materials are preserved in the 'right' environment(s) and remain accessible to all citizens. > If the collections are to be dispersed, the Librarians Serving Genealogists (LSG) organization should call a meeting of the library decision makers -- perhaps the heads of the major genealogical library collections -- and determine if there is any way to obtain the archival records that are of genealogical significance and find a home for them. A good case could probably be constructed in favor of placing these types of records in a place where they can be accessed and used. > > Alvie L. Davidson CGRS > Lakeland, Florida > http://www.floridadetective.net > "Keep smiling and keep 'em guessing what you are up to!" > > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now > >

TALLAHASSEE -- Gov. Jeb Bush warned voters for months that a constitutional amendment to reduce class sizes would be exorbitantly expensive. On Tuesday, he named his price. The Republican's proposed state budget for 2003-04 would require hundreds of millions of dollars in spending cuts for universities, juvenile crime prevention and health care for the poor. University tuition would rise by up to 12.5 percent. The governor proposes closing the state library, which would save $3-million and eliminate 41 jobs. One proposal is to transfer the library and its extensive collection of state historical materials to Florida State University, which wants the prestigious archive. Bush's spending proposal for next year faces exhaustive review by lawmakers, including Senate hearings aimed at generating public opposition to his plan The full article can be found at: http://www.sptimes.com/2003/01/22/State/Bush__Tough_times Gloria Colvin, Florida Library Association Communications Coordinator, provided us with additional information. She says: I have verified the following with the Secretary of State's Press Office. While details are still emerging, it is clear that under the Governor's budget plan the Division of Library and Information Services would be eliminated. Parts of the Division would be retained and moved from the Department of State to other state agencies. The Library Development arm, which administers the federal LSTA program and State Aid to Libraries, is slated to be incorporated into a newly formed "Department of State and Community Partnerships." The state archives will be moved to the Department of Environmental Protection, and the records management function will move to the Department of Management Services. The library itself, which provides library services to state agencies, libraries throughout the state, and the general public and manages the State Documents Program, would be eliminated all together with its collections dispersed. What does this mean to Florida genealogists? As George Miller, Florida State Genealogical Society board member, has said: We need to obtain as many facts as possible so as to evaluate the full impact of this announcement to genealogists, particularly as pertains to the state historical records and the Florida Pioneer Descendant Certificate Program records we have placed with the State Archives. That will help us determine the 'next steps.' On obtaining a full understanding of the issues, we may communicate with the FGS/NGS Records Preservation and Access Committee (RP&AC) and request assistance and guidance. We could use some guidance on how to make sure that materials are preserved in the 'right' environment(s) and remain accessible to all citizens. If the collections are to be dispersed, the Librarians Serving Genealogists (LSG) organization should call a meeting of the library decision makers -- perhaps the heads of the major genealogical library collections -- and determine if there is any way to obtain the archival records that are of genealogical significance and find a home for them. A good case could probably be constructed in favor of placing these types of records in a place where they can be accessed and used. Alvie L. Davidson CGRS Lakeland, Florida http://www.floridadetective.net "Keep smiling and keep 'em guessing what you are up to!" --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now

Unfortunately not in my back yard. Mike Greatorex Harrogate England Looking for All Greatorex's in Blyth/Worksop/Sheffield plus Orange & Ulster Co's,NY, USA Also Florida and Alabama. Associated names Sharman, Beard and Macomber. > > Kathy, > > You have those records, practically in your back yard. > > The Daytona Beach Family History Center is located at: 1125 6th Street, > Holly Hill, FL Telephone: 257-9223 Directions: 6th Street is 6 blocks > north of Mason Ave in Holly Hill. The FHC is easiest to locate from Nova > Ave. Turn west onto 6th Street from Nova. After about 1/2 mile you will see > the Church of Jesus Christ of the Latter Day Saints on your left. Turn into > the driveway and park behind the church. There is a separate entrance to the > FHC on the left next to the dark brown fence. > > (Above paragraph copied from 'Cyndi's List.') > > They have all the NYS census films available. Search to your heart's > content! > > (They have a few other things, too.) > > dlm > > > > >

What Mike? Don't let that little pond stand in the way! :-) steph

Trying to get in touch with Anita and Jack Boykin. They were twins born 08/31/28. Their parents were James B and Gladys Burton Boykin. James and Gladys both died in 1944. Last known about Anita and Jack was that they were attending a Catholic school in Deland FL. PLEASE get in touch with me with any information. This is of upmost importance. Thanks LeAnn

Dear Listers, Thankyou to the advise given on the BDM's. Fay Markwell [email protected] wrote: > Subject: > > FLORIDA-D Digest Volume 03 : Issue 8 > > Today's Topics: > #1 [FLORIDA] Re BDM's [Fay Markwell <[email protected]] > #2 Re: [FLORIDA] Re BDM's ["Deborah Byrd" <[email protected]] > #3 RE: [FLORIDA] Re BDM's ["Leslie Maddocks" <[email protected]] > > Administrivia: > To unsubscribe from FLORIDA-D, send a message to > > [email protected] > > that contains in the body of the message the command > > unsubscribe > > and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software > requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. > > ______________________________ > > -------------------------------------------------- > > Subject: [FLORIDA] Re BDM's > Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 15:28:11 +1100 > From: Fay Markwell <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > > Dear Listers, > Could someone please tell me where and how I can > look up or get a "lookup" of the BDM's for the > state of Florida. > Fay Markwell > Lake Macquarie, NSW. Australia > > ______________________________ > > -------------------------------------------------- > > Subject: Re: [FLORIDA] Re BDM's > Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 07:58:41 -0700 > From: "Deborah Byrd" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > > Do you know the time period and locations. Centralized record keeping > didn't start until after 1915. Death certificates were on the web at > ancestry.com fee site. Do to concerns about identity theft they may have > been removed. > > Marriage license before 1915 will be kept at the county courthouses and may > or may not exist due to numerous court house fires. > > Deborah Byrd > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Fay Markwell" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2003 9:28 PM > Subject: [FLORIDA] Re BDM's > > > Dear Listers, > > Could someone please tell me where and how I can > > look up or get a "lookup" of the BDM's for the > > state of Florida. > > Fay Markwell > > Lake Macquarie, NSW. Australia > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________ > > -------------------------------------------------- > > Subject: RE: [FLORIDA] Re BDM's > Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 09:29:25 -0600 > From: "Leslie Maddocks" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > > With reference to: > "Death certificates were on the web at ancestry.com fee site. Do to > concerns about identity theft they may have been removed." > > These records have not been removed from Ancestry.com. - YET :-) > However, I have found that for some unknown reason the record does not > always come up doing a name search from the home page. You can go to > "Search Records" then to "Birth, Marriage, and Death" and on that page > scroll down in the section titled "Search Individual Birth, Marriage and > Death Databases", you will find Florida Deaths from 1936-1998 in 35 > different databases. If you do not have the year you will have to > search each one individually but I've found quite a lot that didn't > appear on the initial search. If it is someone who died after 1962 or > so, I check the SSDI first to find a year and then go directly to the > correct Florida death index for that time frame. Also, some years they > have not included the birth date although it was on the original > microfiche of the death records. If you are not in Florida and have > access to the microfiche at a local library, they can be rented from > LDS. The Florida State Genealogical Society web page has a list of all > the libraries in Florida with the microfiche > www.rootsweb.com/~flgs/flvital.htm > > I am not certain if these records are under the free portion of > Ancestry.com or the paid area. I am unable to tell from my home page > since I subscribe to most of their offerings. > > Leslie

Dear Listers, Could someone please tell me where and how I can look up or get a "lookup" of the BDM's for the state of Florida. Fay Markwell Lake Macquarie, NSW. Australia

With reference to: "Death certificates were on the web at ancestry.com fee site. Do to concerns about identity theft they may have been removed." These records have not been removed from Ancestry.com. - YET :-) However, I have found that for some unknown reason the record does not always come up doing a name search from the home page. You can go to "Search Records" then to "Birth, Marriage, and Death" and on that page scroll down in the section titled "Search Individual Birth, Marriage and Death Databases", you will find Florida Deaths from 1936-1998 in 35 different databases. If you do not have the year you will have to search each one individually but I've found quite a lot that didn't appear on the initial search. If it is someone who died after 1962 or so, I check the SSDI first to find a year and then go directly to the correct Florida death index for that time frame. Also, some years they have not included the birth date although it was on the original microfiche of the death records. If you are not in Florida and have access to the microfiche at a local library, they can be rented from LDS. The Florida State Genealogical Society web page has a list of all the libraries in Florida with the microfiche www.rootsweb.com/~flgs/flvital.htm I am not certain if these records are under the free portion of Ancestry.com or the paid area. I am unable to tell from my home page since I subscribe to most of their offerings. Leslie

Do you know the time period and locations. Centralized record keeping didn't start until after 1915. Death certificates were on the web at ancestry.com fee site. Do to concerns about identity theft they may have been removed. Marriage license before 1915 will be kept at the county courthouses and may or may not exist due to numerous court house fires. Deborah Byrd ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fay Markwell" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2003 9:28 PM Subject: [FLORIDA] Re BDM's > Dear Listers, > Could someone please tell me where and how I can > look up or get a "lookup" of the BDM's for the > state of Florida. > Fay Markwell > Lake Macquarie, NSW. Australia > > > >

Davis Researchers, Seeking information on Lee Andrew Davis b: August 24, 1890in Taylor, FL. He died 1919 he is buried in Cedar Creek Cem., Baker Co. Fl. He may have married Agnes K. Sellers in 1915 in Duval Co., FL. Agnes Sellers b: 1898 d: 1920 she is buried in Emmaus Cem., Charlton Co., GA. His parents may have been James M. (b: 1870) & Mary (b: 1874) Davis or Isaac (b: 1851) & Nancy (b: 1865) Davis. All information appreciated.

I got your message! Maybe everyone's just busy, but wanted to let you know yours came through! Stephanie in cold snowy NC!

I haven't received any messages in a few days. Is the server down?? Thanks.

<A HREF="http://lists.rootsweb.com/">Click here: RootsWeb: Genealogy Mailing Lists</A> - Lets you chose a way to search, including by surnames, states, international, or others (such census, directories, cemeteries ethnic, military, immigaration, fraternal organization, genealogical societies, hearaldry medical genealogy, religion, etc), as well as support, software and technical lists.. <A HREF="http://www.rootsweb.com/roots-l/">ROOTS-L: The Internet's First Genealogy Mailing List</A> - Lets you pick a state, lets you search the archives , Files and Databases and explains was Roots-L is. <A HREF="http://www.rootsweb.com/roots-l/USA/pa/index.html">ROOTS-L Pennsylvania</A> - Will let you dig into what you want to find in Pennsylvania such as Data, Geography,History,Military, People and Research. Each of these will take you into other areas to help find what you are looking for and what area would best suit your needs and what lists to join. Give ideas of what is available. <A HREF="http://www.rootsweb.com/roots-l/USA/pa/starting.html">ROOTS-L Pennsylvania: Starting Out</A>- Lets you see how to , internet guides and. Will lead you to a list that can give you the mailing addresses for lists (see below). <A HREF="http://www.rootsweb.com/~jfuller/gen_mail_states-pa.html">Genealogy Resources on the Internet - Pennsylvania Mailing Lists</A> this will allow you to join any of the separate counties and areas of reseach and you can join as many as you want for the separate areas of interest you are looking for. You can do this from the first url to find narrow down the areas you are searching for from every state or interenational location you need to search. I hope this helps. If you are new to genealogy, (and I dont know if you are or not) you can even tap into a section for Newbies <A HREF="http://www.rootsweb.com/~newbie/">Welcome to Gen-Newbie</A> which has links for computer and genealogy as well as tips that are very helpful. and a mailing list for newbies too <A HREF="http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Miscellaneous/GEN-NEWBIE.html">RootsWeb: Genealogy Mailing Lists: GEN-NEWBIE</A> as well as the newbies archives to read what others have discussed. I hope this is of some help for you and others trying to find their way to areas that are not of familiar ground to them. It is hard to decide what part of state or country to start our searches in,especially when we are searching for ancestors from these areas. Sometimes if you join the state one first and give what you know, someone will come along and point you in the direction of the county, or historial areas of importance. I have found many on these lists to be very helpful. If you run into some who are not so willing and are critical, please do not let them halt your searching. It is best to ignore them and continue on your way. Everyone was new at one time. Sometimes they forget that and seem to take the opinion that everyone should "just know " these things. Enjoy your searches and dont giveup. Take care. Vickie

Does anyone have any info regarding Kathleen Spangler Chester? Spangler is most likely her maiden name and Chester her married name. She had a child in December 1928. There is an unconfirmed story that her father visited her in Florida. This is all I know about her. Maybe someone can look for her in the 1930 census. Thanks! Liz Gerlits Palm Bay, FL ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ "Recipes from Family, Friends & Strangers," by Liz Gerlits (a cookbook with a genealogy flavor). Email me privately at [email protected] for details.

There are lots of PA mailing lists - go here and check them out: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/usa/PA/ Here is the PA Genweb home page: http://www.pagenweb.org/ Good hunting. ----- Original Message ----- From: "R.B. Roberts" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2003 12:44 PM Subject: [FLORIDA] Penn. > Does anyone know of a rootsweb site in Pennesvania? > > RBR >

Does anyone know of a rootsweb site in Pennesvania? RBR

Due to recent isp problems, I have gone through several email address changes: My OLD addresses were: [email protected] and [email protected] My NEW email address is: [email protected] Thank You! Margie

Would someone please do a lookup for me from this book? "Florida Land: Records of the Tallahassee and Newnansville General Land Office, 1825-1892" thanks so much regards, pat creel [email protected]

Can anyone tell me about Capt Jack Carter of Roger's Roegh (sp?)of Florida Calvary Volunteers 1857-58? Was he from St Johns County, Fl and possibly the son of Isaac Carter? Does any one know why Volunteer soldiers would have gone from Volusia County to PortTampa to enlist in the 3rd War? Do any of you know how the units were formed? Did these people all know or were related to each other or know or related to the Capt? I have never been able to obtain information on my ancester who served with Capt Jack Carter. I have looked at the Microfilm for his Volunteers and there is very little, if any genealogical information contained therein. I have tried to find information of Capt Carter and on the area (Palm Hammock) in the Everglades that they fought the Indians at. I have looked at the information on the web on the 3rd Indian War in that area. Now I wonder if my ancester is related to Capt Carter. Does anyone have ideas? Thank you so much. Gloria