Please forward this to every listserv. -----Original Message----- From: Nick Wynne [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 11:30 AM To: [email protected] Subject: A FOLLOW UP ON YESTERDAY'S MEETING IN TALLAHASSEE As I mentioned in my e-mail last night, I attended the public hearing of the Florida Historical Commission in the R. A. Gray Building. What a strange experience! Ying and yang! * It was delightful to see a large number of professional colleagues assembled for the purpose of protesting this assault against the historical programs of Florida. * It was appalling to hear Anna Estes, the Legislative Analyst from the Office of Program Policy Analysis and Government Accountability, whose agency reviewed the operations of the various cultural programs in the State Department, state that, with the exception of a few minor efficiencies, APPAGA saw no need for drastic or dramatic changes in the operations of these agencies. * It was appalling to hear Teresa Tinker, Bush's Policy Coordinator, from the Growth Management and Strategic Policy Unit in the governor's office, announce that the Bush administration would be concluding a deal Monday or Tuesday to transfer the State Library to some other institution (read Nova Southeastern). * It was appalling to hear Ms. Tinker casually say that the State Museum would be allowed to stay under the Department of State for one more year, but offer nothing positive about the lost positions or about the future of the Museum after this one-year delay. * It was delightful to hear the audience respond with boos and hisses at some of the most outrageous and logically distorted claims by Ms. Tinker were put forward. For example, leaving the State Museum in place for one year. * It was unusual (and to some state employees, intimidating) to have the entire procedure carefully monitored by the acting Secretary of State and his number 2 person. * It was discouraging to sit through a thirty minute discourse on how bills are passed in the Legislature and to realize that the Legislature has constructed a number of dead-ends for citizen input and that any real chance of influencing legislation does not come at the ballot box, but at the expense of hiring professional lobbyists who can dedicate themselves to a 24-hour-a-day monitoring of the complex apparatus that is the legislative process. * It was discouraging to hear the refrain that "everything is up to the Legislature" and to realize that the process (see above) is too cumbersome for average citizens with real issues to negotiate. * It was appalling to see apparently bright men and women abandon their consciences and do the "Jeb dance" for justification of the most immoral and unjust assault on cultural institutions and programs ever witnessed in the Sunshine State. (For a possible alternative to the Bush party line, consult e.e. cummings' "I Sing of Olaf" and repeat the refrain.) * It was delightful to get to the end of the carefully choregraphed presentations by members of the governor's team and hear from people like Bob Austin, Marion Almy, John Daniels and Ken Hardin explore the financial hardships that the proposed Bush plan will have on tourism, historic preservation, development and archaeology. Millions, possibly billions, of lost dollars are at stake! * It was delightful to hear the real anger of the "citizens" come out when the public portion of the hearing was opened. More than thirty citizens gave vent to their feelings toward the proposed programmatic, personnel and budget cuts of the Bush administration. If their reactions are any real judge, there will be "hell to pay" at the next election. * It was appalling to see the absence of any Democrat representative at the hearing to respond to these proposed changes. * It was appalling to learn that proposed legislation is "confidential" and cannot be reviewed or commented on by citizens until AFTER it has been placed on the legislative docket! Keep the people in the dark! * It was delightful to see people like Florida Historical Commission member Lex MeKeithen of Wellborn express dismay and anger at the entire process. That is my quick take. I was not present when the "white paper" was agreed upon, but I would be willing to bet that it will be accommodating to the governor's rape of the historical/cultural programs. It is a commission appointed by the governor, the Speaker and the President of the Senate. Its membership has two Department of State employees. The hearing was held in a government building and was carefully monitored by the Secretary of State, the Director of the State Library, and by other employees of the Department. Only incoming Secretary of State Glenda Hood was absent, BUT her imminence was invoked reverentially by Ms. Tinker on several occasions. I can only assure each of you that the upcoming meeting in Cocoa on Wednesday, February 19, will be certified 100% government-spokesperson FREE. Come if you can.
Kathy, Besides the WWI draft registration card information which Nancy points out is online for Dade Co., have you checked the 'Florida WWI Card Roster' or Induction Records? Both are at the State Archives here in Tallahassee and I would be happy to do a lookup. The Florida WWI Card Roster (series 1204; on microfilm) gives: place of residence place & date of induction birthplace & date military organizations served in with dates of assignments and transfers rank whether served overseas date and type of discharge (honorable, etc.) 'percent disabled' The induction records (series 1142) are in file boxes. I have looked through them but I don't have notes on what information they might contain in addition to the information in series 1204. There is also a book published by the Florida Dept. of Military Affairs: "Florida Veterans of the First World War, All Services 1917-1919" which gives lists of dead and wounded for each county in addition to other veterans. Let me know if you need a lookup! Jeff Birdsley Tallahassee
Hi Kathy, My name is Nancy and I am the Sumter County Coordinator for the Florida GenWeb Project. I went in and did a typical search of our Archives and Found your Grandfather in Dade County has you said. Here is the Link that you can get to it yourself. But I must say that it does not give much info. Basically what you already put out for us. I will continue to look for you, but might fair out better contacting the Dade County Coordinator or one of their folks that do look ups. http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/ifetch2?/u1/data/fl+index+54621559927+F Just click the link above. Sincerely Nancy
Dear Friends: Below are a few updates. I want to remind you to please sign the online petition. We are almost at 9000!! http://www.floridahistory.info/petition/ New to the web site - Resolution from the Society of Florida Archivists. http://www.rootsweb.com/~flsgs/statelib.html Wednesday will be the Statewide Summit at the Florida Historical Society. Organizations or individuals who can come are urged to call Dr. Nick Wynne at (321) 690-1971 or e-mail him at [email protected] as soon as possible. This will allow the Society and the Library to make the necessary space arrangements. IMPORTANT: Below is a brief report of what happened today at the committee meetings, by Lawrence Webster, representing Florida Library Association. In a meeting of the Florida Historic Commission at the Gray Building this morning, Teresa Tinker, Policy Coordinator from Gov. Bush's office, announced that the Museum and other functions of the Division of Historic Resources would NOT be moved to DEP, but that the new Secretary of State would be charged with working with the constituent communities to come up with a good plan. I spoke with Tinker in the hall briefly during that meeting with regard to the Archives. She said that the Archives will no longer be proposed to be moved to DEP/Division of Rec and Parks. It is my understanding that the State Librarian has informed DLIS staff of this, so many on this list might be aware of this development. Tinker said further, when I asked her, that the records management function is still slated to move to DMS. She said "we're still discussing" the State Library collection. She said, "This is a give-and-take process." I urge the library community to carefully think about some more give-and-take" before cheering too loudly about the plan for the archives to stay (for the moment) with an as-yet-undefined "state library administrative agency." The Florida Historic Commission meeting is going on as we speak. Gloria Colvin is there representing FLA, as authorized by the FLA Board. She has prepared a statement, and will probably let everyone know more when the meeting is over. --Best to all, LW Pam Cooper FGS/FSGS 2003 Conference Co-Chair < http://www.fgs.org > President, Florida State Genealogical Society < http://www rootswebcom/~flsgs/ > Chair, Librarians Serving Genealogists < http://www.cas.usfedu/lis/genealib/ > P. O. Box 7066 Vero Beach, FL 32961-7066
Here is hoping the many voices that are being heard from Florida and other states will be taken serious and things will not change in Tallahassee except maybe the office of Governor Bush will sit up and take notice of people who care. I have been expressing my opposition to the Governor's plan everywhere I go and have been speaking to local groups in the Polk County, Pasco County, and Hernando County area. Be there at the Cocoa and bring your determination with you. Alvie L. Davidson CGRS Lakeland, Florida http://www.floridadetective.net "Keep smiling and keep 'em guessing what you are up to!" --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Send Flowers for Valentine's Day
Librarians throw book at closing state library By Ron Hayes, Palm Beach Post Staff Writer Sunday, February 16, 2003 After Florida's librarians learned last month that Gov. Jeb Bush wants to dismantle the Florida State Library and fire 55 employees, they decided maybe silence isn't always golden. And their roar has been growing ever since. Wednesday evening, about 50 area librarians -- city, county, academic, legal and corporate -- gathered in a meeting room at the Palm Beach County Library's main branch on Summit Boulevard in suburban West Palm Beach. Two hours and a lot of questions and complaints later, they had unanimously adopted a resolution calling on the governor to spare the institution, which was founded in 1845 when Florida became a state. Now, 158 years later, Bush wants to scatter it here and there to save $4.7 million out of a $54 billion budget. "Tell your legislators, 'Stop!' " Palm Beach County Library Director Jerry Brownlee urged the crowd. "We need to reconsider this right now. It doesn't mean there can never be any changes to the Florida State Library, or we can't do what needs to be done to balance the budget, but this is a serious matter." Artifacts are volatile issue The Florida State Library is 120 employees on 1 1/2 floors of the R.A. Gray Building in Tallahassee, 11 miles of shelf space and a million books, documents and microfilms, all about Florida. But it's also a 1589 map of Sir Francis Drake's attack on St. Augustine. And the diary of Gen. Thomas Jesup, who captured Chief Osceola in the Seminole Wars of the 1830s. And photographs of Key West in the 1840s. And the original plans for Disney World from the 1960s. Under Bush's plan, that map, the diary, those photographs and everything else in the library's Museum of Florida History and the State Archives would be transferred to the state's Park Services under the Department of Environmental Protection. "Putting archives in a recreation and parks department, I take offense at that," said Virginia Farace, director of the Boynton Beach Public Library and president of the Palm Beach County Library Association. "I respect them, but I don't believe I can do their job, and I don't believe they can do my job." The Bureau of Library Development, which coordinates summer youth programs and steers federal grant money to develop local libraries, would be moved to the newly created Department of State and Community Partnership. Most drastically, though, the circulating collection of about 500,000 books and documents also would be moved -- as soon as the state can find a place to put it. Florida State University had been approached about accepting the collection, but FSU President T.K. Wetherell balked when he was told the books would arrive with neither staff nor budget. "We're not playing a game," Wetherell told The Tallahassee Democrat. "We're out of it." Other universities are being approached, with Nova Southeastern University in Fort Lauderdale often mentioned as a candidate, but librarians argue that any university -- especially a private one, like Nova -- will always put its students ahead of the public. "If push comes to shove between serving the general public and serving their students, they'll serve their students," Brownlee predicted. Changing of the guard Wednesday's meeting had been postponed from December, when State Librarian Barratt Wilkins was to have been the guest speaker. But Wilkins begged off with vague apologies and suggested the later date. And then, on Jan. 6, he resigned after 26 years on the job. "The first I learned of the plan was on November 22," Wilkins later wrote to the Senate Appropriations Subcommittee on Transportation and Economic Development, which will consider the budget request in March. "I was sworn to secrecy. At that time I decided to retire. Of course, I do not agree with the Governor's plan." Local librarians had hoped the new state librarian, Judith Ring, would appear instead. She didn't, but sent a four-page letter defending the plan. "The Governor is fully aware of the history of the Division and its importance to Florida's citizens," Ring assured them. On Friday, Florida Department of State spokeswoman Jenny Nash emphasized that Bush's proposed budget includes $45.6 million for libraries. Nash could not cite any money specifically set aside to support the state archives but said 15 of the department's 19.5 employees (one part-timer) would be transferred to the Department of Environmental Protection, along with the museum collection. Nash declined to identify specific sites where the circulating collection may find a home but noted that Nova Southeastern receives about 50 percent of its development money from Broward County taxpayers. And, she said, it is possible the circulating collection may be split among several different depositories. "I don't know if it will be moved or divided between libraries," Nash said. "We hope to maximize the use of the interlibrary loan service so no matter where it ends up, it will be accessible anywhere in Florida." Nash noted that the state library's annual circulation is only about 60,000, comparable to a small branch library. But librarians say it's unfair to compare a sophisticated historical library filled with important but arcane works to that of a library that offers Stephen King and Danielle Steele. "This is a library that serves librarians, not that many people go in off the street," conceded Annie Kaklamanos, librarian for the 4th District Court of Appeal in West Palm Beach. "But they help me a lot. They not only loaned me a document that's very rare, they overnighted it to me for the court to use. Now I'm going to have to chase around and find out where all these documents land." Ed Nordine, library director at Palm Beach Atlantic University, said the state library helps smaller libraries such as his develop. "As PBAU grows, we have more faculty doing specialized research," Nordine said, "and when the littler libraries get left out of the picture, we lose access to those materials." Office emptying? The $4.7 million saved would be a very minor benefit for such a major upheaval, the librarians agreed. "No one believes money is the reason for this particular decision," Brownlee said, and Wednesday's meeting was spiced with fearful speculation from librarians who began by saying, "I don't want to sound like a conspiracy theorist, but... " One librarian who wasn't afraid to speculate was Jane Terwillegar, director of the Lake Park Public Library. "The governor said in his inaugural speech that he really wanted to empty the offices in Tallahassee, and I see this as a part of that effort," she said. On Jan. 30, Terwillegar, Brownlee, Farace and about 100 other members of the Florida Library Association met with Ring, interim Secretary of State Ken Detzner and Deputy Secretary of State Frank Mann at the Leon County Public Library in Tallahassee. "They outlined what they were planning to do, and we booed and hissed," Terwillegar recalled. And then they came home and started "Save Your State Library," issuing resolutions, writing letters, raising money and calling legislators to rally support. They are not alone. The national American Librarian Association, the American Association of Law Libraries and the Florida State Genealogical Society have written Bush opposing the plan. On Monday, the Florida Historical Society established an online petition protesting the closing. By Friday, more than 4,500 signatures had been attached, with another 1,100 awaiting verification, according to Nick Wynne, its executive director. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.455 / Virus Database: 255 - Release Date: 2/13/03
Here are some articles and editorials the last few days about the library closing. I felt very discouraged Friday after speaking for quite a while with a legislative aide. This was the second time I had talked to this office of my state senator. The first time I felt like there was more sympathy. This time they just suggested we write Jeb more, and sounded rather disinterested. I sent some articles, etc.. They did not realize that they were really thinking of a physical move of the library and its contents. I know they must read the paper? I shared some of the plans of dispersing with them. Why should we find ourselves in the position of informing our congressmen? To this aide's credit, she was doing a search on articles when I called. Problem is they are just not getting the facts of it. I suggest sharing what articles you can find with your congressmen and sending the website that Pam has put up. I thought the senate might stand up and say no, but now I am wondering. They do not feel vulnerable. Thus they do not feel they have to worry about it. The last two articles are about tax exemptions which could make a difference in things here. Budget protests have slim chance of success www.theledger.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2003302170400&Profile=1004 A Palm Beach Post editorial: Librarians throw book at closing state library. http://makeashorterlink.com/?J43323083 Link will redirect you. Closing the Florida State Library is a wacky idea. http://www.jacksonville.com/tu-online/stories/021603/opl_11755835.shtml Then I read an article about Disney's claiming of farm status to avoid paying taxes. http://www.tampatrib.com/MGAAF8P8RBD.html Former Florida senate president still battling sales-tax exemptions. http://makeashorterlink.com/?P2D423083 This link will redirect you to the South Florida Sun Sentinel. The URL was just too long.
The Following statements, letters or e-mails have been been added to our web site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~flsgs/statelib.html I ask you to please check to make sure that I have included any positive replies that you have received from our legislators. I have been receiving so many emails that at times it has been difficult to keep up. I am certain that I could have overlooked some. I want to thank all of you for your support and encouragement. I hope reports will be forthcoming on the subcommittee meetings as well as the State Summit next Wednesday. More later. MESSAGE FROM CURRENT STATE LIBRARIAN, JUDITH RING - 2/12 LETTER FROM CECIL BEACH, FORMER HEAD OF THE STATE LIBRARY - 2/12 STATEMENT OF THE FLORIDA ARCHAEOLOGICAL COUNCIL - 2/13 PRESS RELEASE - PLEASE SEND TO YOUR LOCAL NEWSPAPERS ASAP - 2/13 FLORIDA HISTORICAL COMMISSION SPECIALSESSION - 2/13 LETTER TO THE EDITOR FROM THE PRESIDENT OF THE FLORIDA HISTORICAL SOCIETY - 2/13 STATEMENT OF FGS/NGS RECORDS PRESERVATION & ACCESS COMMITTEE - 2/14 LETTER TO GOVERNOR BUSY BY THE AMERICAN ASSOCIATION OF LAW LIBRARIES - 2/14 STATEMENT OF THE ASSOCIATION OF PROFESSIONAL GENEALOGISTS - 2/14 Pam Cooper FGS/FSGS 2003 Conference Co-Chair < http://www.fgs.org > President, Florida State Genealogical Society < http://www.rootsweb com/~flsgs/ > Chair, Librarians Serving Genealogists < http://www.cas.usf edu/lis/genealib/ > P. O. Box 7066 Vero Beach, FL 32961-7066
Sorry Guy's, my reference to the 1835 and 45 should have said 1935 and 45. Nancy
Hi Everyone, If everyone will give me a day or too I will be happy to Burn you all a copy of the CD and or copy the File to you. But I might add that they are large files. Just let me know. OK Guy's. :):):):):) We're going to beat this DH&R and Library Closing. I just have a good feeling. So everyone let's keep our heads up. OK Sincerely, Nancy
Hi Tracey, Nancy Miller from Sumter here, Yes they are online but I don't have the in front of me. But, I do have a hard copy of them here at home and a copy that I Scanned and burned onto a CD. What would you like and I would be willing to help you out on it. Sincerely, Nancy Original Message: ----------------- From: [email protected] Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 12:18:24 EST To: [email protected] Subject: [FLORIDA] state census, 1935 & 1945 Hello: Does anyone know if these state census records are online anywhere? I didn't see them at Ancestry--just the US census images. I'm searching for my grandfather who lived in Marion Co., FL. His name was Calendar Alphonso "Fonce" MEREDITH (or Merideth). I've only just found this grandfather, and so this is my first foray into FL research. Thank you for any help. Best regards, Tracey Baldwin in cold and icy central Illinois -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ .
Hello: Does anyone know if these state census records are online anywhere? I didn't see them at Ancestry--just the US census images. I'm searching for my grandfather who lived in Marion Co., FL. His name was Calendar Alphonso "Fonce" MEREDITH (or Merideth). I've only just found this grandfather, and so this is my first foray into FL research. Thank you for any help. Best regards, Tracey Baldwin in cold and icy central Illinois
Sorry about that. Trying to do too many things at once. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sydney Cardner" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 10:56 AM Subject: [FLORIDA] Give Alive a pat on the back! > Here is a great letter to the editor in our paper today. It is written by > Alvie Davidson. He did a very good job. > www.theledger.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2003302140336&Profile=1037 > > A snip from the article: > ..."The records stored in the Florida State Archives consist of such things > as the original 1935 and 1945 Florida state census records, original > Confederate veteran pension files, and the original papers of hundreds upon > hundreds of former governors, legislators and Cabinet members. All of these > records are held under ideal library and archival atmospheric conditions to > ensure maximum preservation. > > The Florida State Library contains hundreds of books about Florida history, > and many of them were donated by citizens. I have donated several books, > which were authored by me, and I would not wish to see these books placed > into a warehouse or stored somewhere that would make them inaccessible....." > > Thanks, Alvie. I am putting a shorter link below in case some have trouble > with the longer one. It will redirect you to the site. > http://makeashorterlink.com/?X69625873 > > Sydney Cardner > > >
Here is a great letter to the editor in our paper today. It is written by Alvie Davidson. He did a very good job. www.theledger.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2003302140336&Profile=1037 A snip from the article: ..."The records stored in the Florida State Archives consist of such things as the original 1935 and 1945 Florida state census records, original Confederate veteran pension files, and the original papers of hundreds upon hundreds of former governors, legislators and Cabinet members. All of these records are held under ideal library and archival atmospheric conditions to ensure maximum preservation. The Florida State Library contains hundreds of books about Florida history, and many of them were donated by citizens. I have donated several books, which were authored by me, and I would not wish to see these books placed into a warehouse or stored somewhere that would make them inaccessible....." Thanks, Alvie. I am putting a shorter link below in case some have trouble with the longer one. It will redirect you to the site. http://makeashorterlink.com/?X69625873 Sydney Cardner
Linda and all: This is a really good thought. How about I present this idea at the Statewide Summit on the 19th? All representatives of the coalition will be there including Barratt Wilkins. Pam -----Original Message----- From: Linda Kleback [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 10:25 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [FLORIDA] Action on State Library Closure I have been actively writing and speaking out on the tragic proposed closure of the State Library, Archives, and Museum. One message I saw mentioned the possibility of legal action. Are there grounds to get a restraining order preventing the transfer of the materials? Is there a real possibility we can take legal action against this closure? If all else fails, how about working for a constitutional amendment requiring that a state library, museum, and archive be maintained in Tallahassee? Linda Pazics Kleback Genealogy Specialist Bay County Public Library Panama City, FL
Hi Pam and others, If any legal action seems viable when the time arises and the budget is indeed slashed supporting the library and archives I will be willing to make a substantial donation to the legal fund and will canvas the state for other donations. We would have to find out all the legal ramifications of funds and how they would be handled legally before moving too far too fast. We can discuss this on the 19th in Cocoa. Alvie L. Davidson CGRS Lakeland, Florida http://www.floridadetective.net "Keep smiling and keep 'em guessing what you are up to!" --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Send Flowers for Valentine's Day
Sounds good to me! The governor and his henchmen need to know that we are serious about this. I really would be willing to work on getting a constitutional amendment on the ballot. Linda -----Original Message----- From: Pam Cooper [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 9:43 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [FLORIDA] Action on State Library Closure [adr] Linda and all: This is a really good thought. How about I present this idea at the Statewide Summit on the 19th? All representatives of the coalition will be there including Barratt Wilkins. Pam -----Original Message----- From: Linda Kleback [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 10:25 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [FLORIDA] Action on State Library Closure I have been actively writing and speaking out on the tragic proposed closure of the State Library, Archives, and Museum. One message I saw mentioned the possibility of legal action. Are there grounds to get a restraining order preventing the transfer of the materials? Is there a real possibility we can take legal action against this closure? If all else fails, how about working for a constitutional amendment requiring that a state library, museum, and archive be maintained in Tallahassee? Linda Pazics Kleback Genealogy Specialist Bay County Public Library Panama City, FL
I have been actively writing and speaking out on the tragic proposed closure of the State Library, Archives, and Museum. One message I saw mentioned the possibility of legal action. Are there grounds to get a restraining order preventing the transfer of the materials? Is there a real possibility we can take legal action against this closure? If all else fails, how about working for a constitutional amendment requiring that a state library, museum, and archive be maintained in Tallahassee? Linda Pazics Kleback Genealogy Specialist Bay County Public Library Panama City, FL
Utilizing the Geographic Names Information System (GNIS) search form at <http://geonames.usgs.gov/pls/gnis/web_query.gnis_web_query_form> I entered Stephensville, FL as a populated place and received 0 hits. I then changed the "Query Variant Name" to "yes" and the following information was received: Feature Name: Steinhatchee Feature Type: populated place Elevation: 15 State: Florida County: Taylor Variant Name(s): Jena, Stephensville, Stewarts City USGS 7.5' x 7.5' Map: Steinhatchee Latitude: 294015N Longitude: 0832316W Hope this helps, Ann Staley, CGRS(sm) [CGRS, Certified Genealogical Records Specialist, is a service mark of the Board for Certification of Genealogists, used under license by Board-certified associates after periodic competency evaluations.] Jarvinen wrote: > > I am researching a relative who, according to his widow's Civil > War pension app, died in Stephensville, Fl. She applied for the pension > in Lafayette County. I've checked Lafayette, Dixie, Madison and Hamilton > > counties and tried the local USgenweb pages and also the USGS mapping > link. > Stephensville, Fl. doesn't exist (nor does Stevensville). > > Can anyone tell me where Stephensville, FL is/was? > > Thank you.
Hi Alvie, Thanks for the comment on the E-mail. Just a quick note though. I wasn't cutting Ms. Ring's name out. That was the point, To show who was sending it and how darn blind sided this is. I was cutting out the name and address of the Person who forwarded it to me. This person work's for the State and rumor is, that if you are employed with the state and are working with the coalition to stop this Closing of the Library and DH&R. Then you no longer have a job. Well, This person is not at fault for what the Governor is doing and I didn't feel the need to get them in trouble because they have kids and need their jobs and since this e-mail had close to 300 E-mail names on it, I do not believe that they will find out who sent it to me. Because, I received this same email from at least half of those folks since this morning. So, only god know who else has received it and did the same as I. Actually I am greatful that they sent it to me to post. This way everyone can see who the ones are that do not support our effort's to save the Library and DH&R. But, keep up the good work on tracking our Emails and we hope you support our efforts as well. I remain, Sincerely, Nancy Miller