A new home for the Manatee county mailing list has been set up. In a few minutes, I'll send out personal invitations to the subscribers of this list who wish to join the new group will be able to do so. I can not add members directly. It should be a link you can click that will let you 'accept' the invitation to join the new group. You may need to check your spam folder as I can't say when such will be delivered. If you don't find an invitation in your email you may also go to this site - https://groups.io/g/FL-MANATEE and select Join Group. Of course, folks may still post to this list through 3/1. Tim Stowell

As of now, the Manatee county mailing list has 43 subscribers. In light of this list closing on March 2nd, with the full knowledge of the list owner - Susan Penn Groover, I have set up a new home for this list. I've recently set up similar homes for other Florida Rootsweb lists that will be going defunct next month. In my next email, in a few minutes, I'll send you further information regarding this and how to join the new home for this list. Tim Stowell Chattanooga

/_*Leave a Farewell Message*_/ This post was by Judith to MODAVIES: suggestion: People may want to post a "farewell" message on the mailing list before it goes to archive, and in this message include an email you plan to keep for the foreseeable future. A separate email could be set up expressly for this purpose if it is more convenient/secure. (You'll want web-based, not provider-based.) That way, if someone peruses the archive & finds a possible connection, they would have a way to get in touch with you privately. I have been on a couple of lists that went archival at some point, and I really wish I had done that, as our old email was provider-based and - once that provider went defunct, people looking through the defunct mailing list had no way to contact me (nor I them) It's easier to track people down these days, but I'd still suggest this. I think this to be an excellent idea, wish I thought it. I would like to expand to suggest that a post to include Your name, best address to reach you (one that might be dedicated to your genealogy research), a list surname(s) of interest, a list to places of interest (country, region, state, county), subject of interest, snail mail address (at your own risk), telephone number (again at your own risk), web address if you have a website, where you “moved.” Please keep in mind these to be suggestions and you should only provide what you would be comfortable for “ibots” to find. Might not want to wait to last minute. This would give system to process information and have it posted. With this in mind, please do not be concerned when you see my post to the nearly 300 (took inventory; final count was 298 – just sharing) mailing lists I admin. I will be leaving my time capsule to the list(s) in the coming days. But I will be here til Roots Web turn off the lights and lock the door. Let me take a few lines to acknowledge all the “thank-you” I have received. I started with a few surnames and expanded to counties more recently. But you are all “welcomed.” I try serve with the volunteer spirit and a happy heart. Please overlook my frustration that may boil to the top in the coming days. Susan

/_*Ramblings from the Backseat*_/ Beginning March 2nd, 2020 the Mailing Lists functionality on RootsWeb will be discontinued. Users will no longer be able to send outgoing emails or accept incoming emails. I have already announced that as of March 2^nd , when Roots Web ceases to function as a mailing list that I will be hanging up my administrator's hat. These are my observations and suggestions going forward. First and foremost, someone needs to step-up to be new administrator, chairman, leader, whatever title you like. Next a decision should be made whether to remain a mailing list or a bulletin board. Of course, what is to say both could be established. I personally have not read, but Dick Eastman has endorsed Group.io as a venue for mailing list. From what little time I have had, I would lean toward Group.io to maintain mailing list format. I have no experience with bulletin boards therefore I have no input. I am hearing Facebook, but I have issues with privacy and whether someone would make the site secure enough. I am sure there are other venues for bulletin board format. Can not stop someone setting up FB account, just do not bother to invite me. Also, Ancestry has an established bulletin board area, it is functioning. Due to the activity on most state lists, my next suggestion would be that county mailing lists consolidate to form one state list. When activity is established divide into regions. Too much activity then establish a county list (start at the top and drill down). Under the blanket of a state list posting could use subject line to keep the identity of the county ie; SUBJECT: [AL-SUMTER] Looking for … Surname lists are a horse of a different color. Suggestion here would be to make use of subject line. Kinda like reading a newspaper, the subject line is like a headline of a newspaper. Personally I pay attention to an informative subject line. A worry in the back of my mind is with the “mass exodus” from Roots Web to other venue on whether that venue can handle the new activity or whether “we” will cause that venue to crash and burn. Here's hoping that is a needless concern. Once the list is established … there needs to be centralized place where a directory or a place of registration that searching community would go to find the list. Since I am US based, USGenWeb comes to mind. This maybe more difficult step. USGenWeb sites are individually maintained. Hearing rumblings that this may be solved in the near future. Last concern (for the moment) would be “being nice and playing well with others.” Personally, have not experienced this problem. Frustration, maybe. Especially when Roots Web fell apart and returned “fixed” with continuing problems. For example, I still have to push through a post from someone using AOL. AOL users … this is why your post takes a little longer to be seen. Sorry, I do my best with the tools I have to work with. Patience is probably going to be the keyword in days to come. Patience with the leaders that will step forward. They are going to be putting a lot on their plates and will need support in establishing a new venue and getting it working, establishing their rules, etc. Congratulation to those lists that have found a “new home.” From what I see you are in good hands! Will try to make this last posting to those newly adopted lists. (Posting to all lists today.) At this point in time, Family Trees, Message Boards, Web Sites, & Wiki at Roots Web are not effected to my knowledge. Of course, Message Boards are already part of Ancestry. So open conversation. Work on finding a volunteer to lead the list forward. I'm gonna stop rambling for the moment. I'm here till they turn off the lights and lock the door. Susan

/_*Unsubscribing from Mailing List(s)*_/ With the upcoming changes to Roots Web, some have decided to “leave early.” Which I personally understand. Since I am busy, I would like to ask for your help. Should you make the decision to close your membership to list please do the following: Insert or substitute listname before dash. To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to listname-request@rootsweb.com <mailto:wvlogan-request@rootsweb.com> with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. OR A link is provided at the bottom of individual and digests. Help in this area will be completely appreciated and will be considered an act of kindness.

/_*Genealogy of Roots Web*_/ Since most of us are genealogists or family historians, I write this to answer the primary questions I am receiving in “genealogy speak.” Mailing lists were scattered about the Internet prior to the conception of Roots Web (ie: AOL, Prodigy, Compuserve, and others) BIRTH: Sometime in 1996, Karen & Brian Leverich, conceived what it is now known as Roots Web. Roots Web grew to host uncountable mailing list of many subjects, surnames, places, etc. These mailing lists were free to its users/subscribers. MARRIAGE: June 2000. Roots Web was married (purchased by) Ancestry, Inc. with prenuptial agreement that mailing list services would remain free. I believe to be sometime in 2015, our beloved Roots Web began to suffer health issues. My speculation is outgrew its existence and its host was unable to keep up without a major and costly overhaul. After a year plus, Roots Web reopened its doors, but a lot of her faithful subscribers had lost interest or found other vehicles to convey their passages of information. During this time, other updates on the Internet have occurred. These changes have caused some subscribers unable to participate. Not qualified to expand on this other than to say that some folks have lost connection with Roots Web, DEATH: 2 March 2020. Beginning March 2nd, 2020 the Mailing Lists functionality on RootsWeb will be discontinued. Users will no longer be able to send outgoing emails or accept incoming emails. Additionally, administration tools will no longer be available to list administrators and mailing lists will be put into an archival state. BURIAL: Archives will be available to peruse. No further information as to where, how long, or whether a price tag will be added. Hope this helps. Susan Penn Groover

Hi everyone! This has been heavy on my heart since Ancestry / Roots Web announcement. I have been admin / moderator for various mailing lists for 25+ years (some lists that predate Roots Web). The options for change do not fit my personal criteria. This is, also, not happening at a time I am able to give personal time for this change. Plus, I think Ancestry is not given an adequate “heads up” for this change. (I personally admin 200+ lists) So I have made the decision to become a subscriber as opposed to an administrator. I will remain admin to the mailing lists I currently admin till Roots Web makes the changes they propose on March 2^nd . I am leaving the decision for change to the list members. I am still gathering options. I will post suggestions in the next few days. The major option I am hearing is Facebook. I suppose this could work. But Facebook, in my humble opinion, would be turning a mailing list into a message board. And various mailing list members have stated they would not Facebook. Personally, I am in this bucket. I have personal issues with Facebook. Open discussion on the list. Voice your opinion. Enough for now. Will post more on other options in the future. Susan Penn Groover, List Administrator --- Genealogy: Where you confuse the dead and irritate the living.

I've "rescued" an old photograph identified as Piere BARTHLOW which was taken at the H. W. Craig Studio in Marietta, OH. The photograph appears to have been taken in the 1880's or 1890's with Piere likely about 1-2 years old at the time it was taken. Based on limited research I was able to locate the following information regarding Piere: Roberts Pierre BARTHALOW was b. 2 Aug 1890 in Marietta, OH to parents Wesley G. BARTHALOW (1858-1928) and Mary MCILYAR (1859-1950). Piere or Pierre married Hazel E. R. HIRT (1892-1982) and they had a daughter, Mary A. BARTHOLOW (1916-2013). Pierre died 27 Dec 1964 in Manatee Co., FL. I'm hoping to locate someone from this family so that the photograph can be returned to the care of family. If you are a member of this family or you know someone who might be, please contact me. Thanks, Shelley

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: LilNeon316 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.florida.counties.manatee/935.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thanks! I will try the library! Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: paigefrank77 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.florida.counties.manatee/935.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: What newspapers would have been in that area during that timeframe? Frank Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: LilNeon316 Surnames: Hodges Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.florida.counties.manatee/935/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello, I am looking for the obituary of Edwin John Hodges, who died 7/29/1975 and lived in Manatee county. Anyone know where I can find it? Thanks! Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: dirtdart509 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.florida.counties.manatee/760.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Henry is my Great Grandfather. I'm Mary Helen's grandson, David. Does anyone have a picture of Henry in his Navy uniform? Greatly appreciated. dirtdart509@yahoo.com Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: bosma48 Surnames: Sudbury Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.florida.counties.manatee/934/mb.ashx Message Board Post: My name is René Bosma en I live in the little Dutch town of Oosterwolde. Since 4 years I have been investigating the Air war over the Northern part of the Netherlands. It is my main objective to gather as much information as possible about the aircraft and the airmen which came down over the province of Friesland during the Second World War. We consider it very important to keep the memory of the Air war alive, especially the many flyers paid with their lives for our Freedom. One of the aircraft I research is a American B-17 heavy Bomber of 96 Bomb Group/337 Bomb Squadron. The B-17 (serial: 42-3265 Nickname "Holy Mackerel") crashed on the 16th of December 1943 near a little Dutch Town called Kimswerd in the North of The Netherlands. The B-17's came back from a bombing mission on the harbour installations in the German city of Bremen. But when they flown above the North side of the Dutch Mainland the group of Bombers where attacked by German Fighter. The Holy Mackerel was hit by another B-17 of 96 bomb group 42-30860. This B-17 was hit by fire of a German Fighter en go down into the Waddensea. The Holy Mackerel was hit but tried to make a emergency landing on the Dutch mainland. But when he was looking for a good spot he also were attacked by German fighter. The plane get badly hit en short 6 man jumped out with the parachute. 2 of the 6 man survived the jump en were captured by the Germans. 2 others, who jumped out over the waddensea, drowned. Th! ey are still missing in action till today. The other 6 crewmembers lost their live. Some of the brave man are still buried at the American war cemetery at Margarten, The Netherlands. Others are reburied in the U.S.A. The 42-30860 crashed into the Waddensea. all 10 brave man lost their lives. 5 of them are still missing in action. The 5 others washed ashore in the Netherlands en buried at Margraten en also later in the U.S.A. It was a big loss to the 96 bomb group. 18 man lost their life for our freedom. The Waist Gunner of the 42-3265 "Holy Mackerel" crew was Staff Sergeant Robert Edwin Sudbury. He was born 1922. Sadly his specific birth date en place are not known to me. I don't know who is father was but his mother was Lee M. Sudbury (1901). Robert has 1 brother Leroy Sudbury (1919-1999) en 1 sisters Edith H. Sudbury (1927). In 1940 the family (mother en 3 children, father was passed away) lives in a township (I can't read the name of it) at Manatee, Florida. Robert his still missing in action till today. His name standing with pride on the wall of the Missing at the American War Cemetery at Margraten, the Netherlands. At the moment I research this crash en I was hoping that there is someone could en will help me with some additional information about Robert: . his military career . his family . his life before he sight in for service . his repatriation I also hope that someone knows some ancestors or relatives of Robert en will help me to get in contact with them. My goal with the information I try to collect is to make a as precise as possible reconstruction about the crew en their mission on that day. So the story of the brave man who gave their live for our freedom never will be forgotten. Thank you in advance en hope someone could en will help me. Kind regards René Bosma, Oosterwolde, The Netherlands My emailaddress:rene_bosma21@hotmail.com or frisianheroes@yahoo.com Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: carebearule Surnames: Classification: obituary Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.florida.counties.manatee/933/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello Looking for obituary. Jennie White died in Palmetto on Nov 5,1978. Thanks for any help. Ann Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: larryparker124 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.florida.counties.manatee/930.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Sarasota Herald-Tribune (FL) - January 15, 1999 Deceased Name: James Overholt James Overholt , 76, Bradenton, died Jan. 7, 1999. He was born April 16, 1922, in Cleghorn, Iowa. He was a technical writer for IBM for 25 years. He graduated from the University of Iowa in 1943 with a bachelor's degree in literature and wrote the book ''Sigel George Overholt , An Iowa Memoir.'' He established the fund ''Partners in Poverty Alleviation Pastoral Center'' in Sarasota. He was an Army veteran of World War II. Survivors include a niece, Gail A. of Alexandria, Va., and a nephew, Roger C. of Minden, Nev. Visitation will be private. Services will be later. Covell Cremation and Funeral Center is in charge. Memorial donations may be made to NAACP, P.O. Box 937, Bradenton, FL 34206. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: thomasker2 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.florida.counties.manatee/928.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I'm not related to any member of this family. 1940 is the last available census at this time. Sometimes men "walked away" [abandoned the family] and then the wife would list herself as "WIDOWED". 1900 - Name: Charley Berry Age: 47 Birth Date: Jan 1853 Birthplace: Florida Home in 1900: Smithville, Hamilton, Florida Race: White Gender: Male Relation to Head of House: Head Marital Status: Married Spouse's Name: Fannie Berry Marriage Year: 1887 Years Married: 13 Father's Birthplace: Georgia Mother's Birthplace: Georgia Occupation: View on Image Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Charley Berry 47, 1/53 FL Fannie Berry 35, 2/65 FL - 5 children Eva Berry 11, 9/88 FL Mattie Berry 10, 1/90 FL Annie Berry 8, 10/91 FL Horace Berry 5, 1/95 FL Henry Berry 2, 9/97 FL 1910 - Name: Charlie Berry Age in 1910: 58 Birth Year: abt 1852 Birthplace: Florida Home in 1910: Jasper, Hamilton, Florida Race: White Gender: Male Relation to Head of House: Boarder Marital Status: Single <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Father's Birthplace: Florida Mother's Birthplace: Florida Looks like Charlie walked away from the family. FL. Vital Records - The law requiring the registration of births and deaths in Florida passed in 1917; however, it was many years after that before we had consistent registration. While we have some birth records dating back to 1865, they are sparse. Kathleen Dunkley Stephens Bureau of Vital Statistics Kathy_Stephens@doh.state.fl.us (904) 359-6900, ext. 1150 Fax: (904) 359-6931 www.doh.state.fl.us Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Luann445 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.florida.counties.manatee/932.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thanks I'll see what I can find. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: paigefrank77 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.florida.counties.manatee/932.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Have you requested his death certificate? It might have the parents on there. Also, the SSN application should shed some light on there. There is also a step child named Mary McCary, born 1916. Father born in FL, Mother born in AL. 1920 census, Santa Rosa County. Believe, but not verified that Jimmie died in Broward county in 2008. Not sure on that one. Also, Could have Lacy died in Hillsborough County in 1949? there is an obit for that person. Good Hunting Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Luann445 Surnames: Simmons, Chavers Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.florida.counties.manatee/931/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am trying to find information on Bert LeClare Simmons who was married to Annie Chavers. He was born on 05 Sep 1887 in St. Mary's Georgia and died on 20 Jul 1971 in Tallahassee, Florida. From 1933-1935 he was a Democratic in the House of Representatives. He and Annie had the following children: Lacy W. Simmons 1927 Zemma C. Simmons 1929 Tommy Tilden Simmons 1931-1952 Annie L. Simmons 1933 Jimmie M. Simmons 1935 Leneta P. Simmons 1938 I would like to know who his parents were, any history on him or the children is greatly appreciated. Thank you. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: gingerb070 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.florida.counties.manatee/91.105.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: The Foy family is from France. I have traced Henry Morgan Foy's family, my great grandfather, back to France to Adam Foy, 1572-1663. Ginger Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>