Norita, I so appreciate your wilingness to also help me out. Right now we are trying to figure out what to do next with this research on Robert B SMITH. I am waiting for the death certificate from the Dept of Vital Statics and may get back to you with a request. Thanks again and also to dear Dawn on this list as she found and sent the obit on Robert!!! Great work and help. Joni Smith Everett, Wa NASJS@webtv.net