Just a note to everyone to say thanks for all the information and emails. I was able to find someone who could pinpoit the crash location for me. It was just on the outskirts of Two Egg. If anyone is related to the witnesses I mentioned in my earlier email today, I have copies of the statements they gave to military investigators if you would like them for your files. Best, Dale

I've had a chance now to read through the crash reports on this incident. They don't give a specific location but they identify the crash site as being near a "low beam radio station" 6 miles east of what is now the Marianna airport. I don't recall anything like that near Two Egg, but could this be the facility off Blue Springs Road? There were two houses and a general store in the vicinity. The two citizens who witnessed the crash were Tony B. Horne and W.L. Holmes. Do these names ring any bells? Thanks, Dale

Richard, I was thinking that myself. It seems almost unreal today that 1,902 men died in just four years in Florida alone. And that doesn't count ground training, only aircraft accidents. Dale Richard White <rw@pone.com> wrote: > >Geeze.  It seems almost a miracle that enough survived training to fight >the war...  But, although I'm sure Florida was a favored training area >because of the climate, this just helps to highlight what an immense >undertaking W.W.II was. > >RW > >DNDothan@cs.com wrote: > >>I'm passing this link along because it might be of help if any of you are pursuing similar lines of research or if you had an ancestor who served at a WWII base in Florida. It is an extremely thorough site dealing with WWII air training bases and crashes in Florida (and chemical weapons locations as well). >> >>A total of 991 aircraft and 1,902 human lives were lost in Florida during training exercises between 1941 and 1945. >> >>http://www.geocities.com/bwidner1/ >> >>Best, >>Dale >> > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FLJACKSO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Roger, Some of the WWII buildings at the old Marianna base still stand (and there is a really nice cache of buried machine gun ammunition around there somewhere too according to records from when the base was closed). The WWII subsidiary fields at Malone and Bascom can still be seen. I'm not sure about the one at Alliance. I've never gone and actually looked at that one. Nothing remains of the P.O.W. camp where German prisoners were kept in Marianna. I know there is at least one unaccounted for helicopter missing in Northwest Florida. It was thought to have gone down in the Choctawhatchee River swamp in Holmes County. Dale caverarch@aol.com wrote: > >Dale, > > > >I'm not surprised.? Military aviation has been such a part of Panhandle history in the 20th century.? There are so many abandoned or adaptively reused WWII fields around, as I'm sure you know.? What I'm afraid has probably disappeared are the military buildings of the WWII era that still survived into the Sixties.? Another Civil Air Patrol function took place at a former Army Air Force field that served as the Apalachicola airport.? There was still at least one huge WWII wooden hanger still standing then.? > >The air in Jackson County in the Sixties used to hum from overflights by heilicopter pilots in training out of Ft. Rucker.? Are there any known / missing Huey wrecks from that era, as well? > >Roger > > > > > > > > >________________________________________________________________________ >Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FLJACKSO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I am too June,Dale Mabry,oh those were the days,oops sorry Richard,am enjoying all your post ---- June Milton <junebug21@cfl.rr.com> wrote: > > > Richard, Dale Mabry airfield was in TAMPA! I am a Tampa native. > June Milton > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Richard White" <rw@pone.com> > To: <fljackso@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 7:06 PM > Subject: Re: [FLJACKSO] 1944 Two Egg Plane Crash > > > > > > A question, Dale: Was the pilot in question U.S. or Chinese? I > > understand that a goodly number of Nationalist Chinese pilots were > > trained at Dale Mabry Field in Tallahassee. Some of my roommates at FSU > > in the late 1960s were ROTC cadet officers. They used 1940s reports of > > a downed training aircraft the crash site of which was not located then, > > and recovered the remains of a Nationalist Chinese pilot. I believe > > that the crash site was in Wakulla County... but it might have been > > southern Leon County... > > > > I wish that I had paid more attention back then. These same guys had > > something to do with getting the battle streamer for FSU ROTC units. > > > > RW > > > > DNDothan@cs.com wrote: > > > >>I am trying to find the location of a 1944 military plane crash that > >>happened in or near Two Egg. Does anyone know anything about this? > >> > >>It was a training aircraft that struck a tree when the pilots where > >>buzzing local homes for practice. The nephew of one of the men killed is > >>trying to find the location so he can visit the place this fall. > >> > >>If anyone has any memories or has heard anything about this, please drop > >>me a line. > >> > >>Thanks, > >>Dale Cox > >> > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > FLJACKSO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FLJACKSO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Geeze. It seems almost a miracle that enough survived training to fight the war... But, although I'm sure Florida was a favored training area because of the climate, this just helps to highlight what an immense undertaking W.W.II was. RW DNDothan@cs.com wrote: >I'm passing this link along because it might be of help if any of you are pursuing similar lines of research or if you had an ancestor who served at a WWII base in Florida. It is an extremely thorough site dealing with WWII air training bases and crashes in Florida (and chemical weapons locations as well). > >A total of 991 aircraft and 1,902 human lives were lost in Florida during training exercises between 1941 and 1945. > >http://www.geocities.com/bwidner1/ > >Best, >Dale >

Now that you mention it, both Tate's Hell and CAP cadets have a familiar ring. However, the plane in question was a W.W.II trainer, so far as I am aware... a prop plane, not a jet. Winter of '67 seems right, though. We only lived in a dorm one school year, that being '67-'68, and I'm pretty sure this occurred while we were living in the dorm. I don't claim to have a crisp, clear memory on this, however... <G> RW caverarch@aol.com wrote: >Regarding this human remains recovery project:? do you recall if the Civil Air Patrol and its cadets were involved?? I was a member of the Panama City cadet squadron in my teens, and we participated in a 1966 or 1967 recovery effort that (if I recall correctly) involved the pilot of a jet that had crahsed some years before.? The location for this search was in the memorably and aptly named Tate's Hell swamp. > >I don't recall any FSU ROTC people in particular there, but lots of folks were involved.? One of our (adult) pilots could have met the same fate as Dale's when he buzzed the campsite at treetop level in the PC squadron's WWII-vintage fabric-covered L-5 observation plane. > >Roger G. Moore >Houston >

Dale, I'm not surprised.? Military aviation has been such a part of Panhandle history in the 20th century.? There are so many abandoned or adaptively reused WWII fields around, as I'm sure you know.? What I'm afraid has probably disappeared are the military buildings of the WWII era that still survived into the Sixties.? Another Civil Air Patrol function took place at a former Army Air Force field that served as the Apalachicola airport.? There was still at least one huge WWII wooden hanger still standing then.? The air in Jackson County in the Sixties used to hum from overflights by heilicopter pilots in training out of Ft. Rucker.? Are there any known / missing Huey wrecks from that era, as well? Roger ________________________________________________________________________ Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com

I'm passing this link along because it might be of help if any of you are pursuing similar lines of research or if you had an ancestor who served at a WWII base in Florida. It is an extremely thorough site dealing with WWII air training bases and crashes in Florida (and chemical weapons locations as well). A total of 991 aircraft and 1,902 human lives were lost in Florida during training exercises between 1941 and 1945. http://www.geocities.com/bwidner1/ Best, Dale

Roger, I have heard of the one Richard mentioned and think it was the crash at Leon Sinks Geological Area south of Tallahassee. The wreckage there is definitely of World War II origin. I've heard of the Tate's Hell crash too. Plus there was the huge one in Marianna when the bomber exploded. There are several other missing planes from the 40s and 50s in Northwest Florida that have never been located. Dale caverarch@aol.com wrote: >Regarding this human remains recovery project:? do you recall if the Civil Air Patrol and its cadets were involved?? I was a member of the Panama City cadet squadron in my teens, and we participated in a 1966 or 1967 recovery effort that (if I recall correctly) involved the pilot of a jet that had crahsed some years before.? The location for this search was in the memorably and aptly named Tate's Hell swamp. > >I don't recall any FSU ROTC people in particular there, but lots of folks were involved.? One of our (adult) pilots could have met the same fate as Dale's when he buzzed the campsite at treetop level in the PC squadron's WWII-vintage fabric-covered L-5 observation plane. > >Roger G. Moore >Houston > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Richard White <rw@pone.com> >To: fljackso@rootsweb.com >Sent: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 6:06 pm >Subject: Re: [FLJACKSO] 1944 Two Egg Plane Crash > > > > >A question, Dale:  Was the pilot in question U.S. or Chinese?  I >understand that a goodly number of Nationalist Chinese pilots were >trained at Dale Mabry Field in Tallahassee.  Some of my roommates at FSU >in the late 1960s were ROTC cadet officers.  They used 1940s reports of >a downed training aircraft the crash site of which was not located then, >and recovered the remains of a Nationalist Chinese pilot.  I believe >that the crash site was in Wakulla County... but it might have been >southern Leon County... > >I wish that I had paid more attention back then.  These same guys had >something to do with getting the battle streamer for FSU ROTC units. > >RW > >DNDothan@cs.com wrote: > >>I am trying to find the location of a 1944 military plane crash that happened >in or near Two Egg.  Does anyone know anything about this? >> >>It was a training aircraft that struck a tree when the pilots where buzzing >local homes for practice. The nephew of one of the men killed is trying to find >the location so he can visit the place this fall. >> >>If anyone has any memories or has heard anything about this, please drop me a >line. >> >>Thanks, >>Dale Cox >> > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FLJACKSO-request@rootsweb.com >with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of >the message > > >________________________________________________________________________ >Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FLJACKSO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Actually, June, Dale Mabry Highway is in Tampa. There never was a Dale Mabry Field. It was MacDill and Drew Field in Tampa proper. Drew Field turned into the airport and Hillsborough Community College. There was also a base where Busch Gardens (actually Adventure Island) is, but it's name escapes me. Then there was a base in Thonotosassa, and so on. They were scattered all over the area during WWII. Mark T. ----- Original Message ---- From: June Milton <junebug21@cfl.rr.com> To: fljackso@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 9:44:55 AM Subject: Re: [FLJACKSO] 1944 Two Egg Plane Crash Richard, Dale Mabry airfield was in TAMPA! I am a Tampa native. June Milton ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard White" <rw@pone.com> To: <fljackso@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 7:06 PM Subject: Re: [FLJACKSO] 1944 Two Egg Plane Crash > > A question, Dale: Was the pilot in question U.S. or Chinese? I > understand that a goodly number of Nationalist Chinese pilots were > trained at Dale Mabry Field in Tallahassee. Some of my roommates at FSU > in the late 1960s were ROTC cadet officers. They used 1940s reports of > a downed training aircraft the crash site of which was not located then, > and recovered the remains of a Nationalist Chinese pilot. I believe > that the crash site was in Wakulla County... but it might have been > southern Leon County... > > I wish that I had paid more attention back then. These same guys had > something to do with getting the battle streamer for FSU ROTC units. > > RW > > DNDothan@cs.com wrote: > >>I am trying to find the location of a 1944 military plane crash that >>happened in or near Two Egg. Does anyone know anything about this? >> >>It was a training aircraft that struck a tree when the pilots where >>buzzing local homes for practice. The nephew of one of the men killed is >>trying to find the location so he can visit the place this fall. >> >>If anyone has any memories or has heard anything about this, please drop >>me a line. >> >>Thanks, >>Dale Cox >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FLJACKSO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FLJACKSO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ____________________________________________________________________________________ Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. http://get.games.yahoo.com/proddesc?gamekey=monopolyherenow

There were Dale Mabry fields in both Tallahassee and Tampa. You are both correct. Phil June Milton wrote: > Richard, Dale Mabry airfield was in TAMPA! I am a Tampa native. > June Milton > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Richard White" <rw@pone.com> > To: <fljackso@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 7:06 PM > Subject: Re: [FLJACKSO] 1944 Two Egg Plane Crash > > > >> A question, Dale: Was the pilot in question U.S. or Chinese? I >> understand that a goodly number of Nationalist Chinese pilots were >> trained at Dale Mabry Field in Tallahassee. Some of my roommates at FSU >> in the late 1960s were ROTC cadet officers. They used 1940s reports of >> a downed training aircraft the crash site of which was not located then, >> and recovered the remains of a Nationalist Chinese pilot. I believe >> that the crash site was in Wakulla County... but it might have been >> southern Leon County... >> >> I wish that I had paid more attention back then. These same guys had >> something to do with getting the battle streamer for FSU ROTC units. >> >> RW >> >> DNDothan@cs.com wrote: >> >> >>> I am trying to find the location of a 1944 military plane crash that >>> happened in or near Two Egg. Does anyone know anything about this? >>> >>> It was a training aircraft that struck a tree when the pilots where >>> buzzing local homes for practice. The nephew of one of the men killed is >>> trying to find the location so he can visit the place this fall. >>> >>> If anyone has any memories or has heard anything about this, please drop >>> me a line. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Dale Cox >>> >>> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> FLJACKSO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FLJACKSO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > -- Phil Stover, President and Senior Partner The Portolan Group, Inc www.portolangroup.com Voice: 941.927.2797 Fax: 941.927.9283 pstover@portolangroup.com Expertise without perseverance is like beauty without substance - Phil Stover

In case anyone is interested in collecting this kind of information on Florida as a whole...... When I served on the Sarasota County Historical Commission I interviewed a number of old-timers who told me the same story. WWII era planes crashed during training near Bee Ridge (currently Bee Ridge Road - actual crash site near modern Wilkinson and Honore) and in Myakka near the current Hidden River Development. Both pilots were killed and I guess it caused quite a stir. The planes were training from the Sarasota Army Air Force Base (our current airport) which was indeed widely used for such purposes in WWII. P-40 training was done there, although I do not know what kind of planes went down. Just thought someone might be interested. Phil DNDothan@cs.com wrote: > Roger, > > I have heard of the one Richard mentioned and think it was the crash at Leon Sinks Geological Area south of Tallahassee. The wreckage there is definitely of World War II origin. I've heard of the Tate's Hell crash too. Plus there was the huge one in Marianna when the bomber exploded. > > There are several other missing planes from the 40s and 50s in Northwest Florida that have never been located. > > Dale > > caverarch@aol.com wrote: > > >> Regarding this human remains recovery project:? do you recall if the Civil Air Patrol and its cadets were involved?? I was a member of the Panama City cadet squadron in my teens, and we participated in a 1966 or 1967 recovery effort that (if I recall correctly) involved the pilot of a jet that had crahsed some years before.? The location for this search was in the memorably and aptly named Tate's Hell swamp. >> >> I don't recall any FSU ROTC people in particular there, but lots of folks were involved.? One of our (adult) pilots could have met the same fate as Dale's when he buzzed the campsite at treetop level in the PC squadron's WWII-vintage fabric-covered L-5 observation plane. >> >> Roger G. Moore >> Houston >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Richard White <rw@pone.com> >> To: fljackso@rootsweb.com >> Sent: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 6:06 pm >> Subject: Re: [FLJACKSO] 1944 Two Egg Plane Crash >> >> >> >> >> A question, Dale: Was the pilot in question U.S. or Chinese? I >> understand that a goodly number of Nationalist Chinese pilots were >> trained at Dale Mabry Field in Tallahassee. Some of my roommates at FSU >> in the late 1960s were ROTC cadet officers. They used 1940s reports of >> a downed training aircraft the crash site of which was not located then, >> and recovered the remains of a Nationalist Chinese pilot. I believe >> that the crash site was in Wakulla County... but it might have been >> southern Leon County... >> >> I wish that I had paid more attention back then. These same guys had >> something to do with getting the battle streamer for FSU ROTC units. >> >> RW >> >> DNDothan@cs.com wrote: >> >> >>> I am trying to find the location of a 1944 military plane crash that happened >>> >> in or near Two Egg. Does anyone know anything about this? >> >>> It was a training aircraft that struck a tree when the pilots where buzzing >>> >> local homes for practice. The nephew of one of the men killed is trying to find >> the location so he can visit the place this fall. >> >>> If anyone has any memories or has heard anything about this, please drop me a >>> >> line. >> >>> Thanks, >>> Dale Cox >>> >>> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FLJACKSO-request@rootsweb.com >> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of >> the message >> >> >> ________________________________________________________________________ >> Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FLJACKSO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FLJACKSO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > -- Phil Stover, President and Senior Partner The Portolan Group, Inc www.portolangroup.com Voice: 941.927.2797 Fax: 941.927.9283 pstover@portolangroup.com Expertise without perseverance is like beauty without substance - Phil Stover

Regarding this human remains recovery project:? do you recall if the Civil Air Patrol and its cadets were involved?? I was a member of the Panama City cadet squadron in my teens, and we participated in a 1966 or 1967 recovery effort that (if I recall correctly) involved the pilot of a jet that had crahsed some years before.? The location for this search was in the memorably and aptly named Tate's Hell swamp. I don't recall any FSU ROTC people in particular there, but lots of folks were involved.? One of our (adult) pilots could have met the same fate as Dale's when he buzzed the campsite at treetop level in the PC squadron's WWII-vintage fabric-covered L-5 observation plane. Roger G. Moore Houston -----Original Message----- From: Richard White <rw@pone.com> To: fljackso@rootsweb.com Sent: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 6:06 pm Subject: Re: [FLJACKSO] 1944 Two Egg Plane Crash A question, Dale: Was the pilot in question U.S. or Chinese? I understand that a goodly number of Nationalist Chinese pilots were trained at Dale Mabry Field in Tallahassee. Some of my roommates at FSU in the late 1960s were ROTC cadet officers. They used 1940s reports of a downed training aircraft the crash site of which was not located then, and recovered the remains of a Nationalist Chinese pilot. I believe that the crash site was in Wakulla County... but it might have been southern Leon County... I wish that I had paid more attention back then. These same guys had something to do with getting the battle streamer for FSU ROTC units. RW DNDothan@cs.com wrote: >I am trying to find the location of a 1944 military plane crash that happened in or near Two Egg. Does anyone know anything about this? > >It was a training aircraft that struck a tree when the pilots where buzzing local homes for practice. The nephew of one of the men killed is trying to find the location so he can visit the place this fall. > >If anyone has any memories or has heard anything about this, please drop me a line. > >Thanks, >Dale Cox > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FLJACKSO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________________________________________ Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com

Richard, Dale Mabry airfield was in TAMPA! I am a Tampa native. June Milton ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard White" <rw@pone.com> To: <fljackso@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 7:06 PM Subject: Re: [FLJACKSO] 1944 Two Egg Plane Crash > > A question, Dale: Was the pilot in question U.S. or Chinese? I > understand that a goodly number of Nationalist Chinese pilots were > trained at Dale Mabry Field in Tallahassee. Some of my roommates at FSU > in the late 1960s were ROTC cadet officers. They used 1940s reports of > a downed training aircraft the crash site of which was not located then, > and recovered the remains of a Nationalist Chinese pilot. I believe > that the crash site was in Wakulla County... but it might have been > southern Leon County... > > I wish that I had paid more attention back then. These same guys had > something to do with getting the battle streamer for FSU ROTC units. > > RW > > DNDothan@cs.com wrote: > >>I am trying to find the location of a 1944 military plane crash that >>happened in or near Two Egg. Does anyone know anything about this? >> >>It was a training aircraft that struck a tree when the pilots where >>buzzing local homes for practice. The nephew of one of the men killed is >>trying to find the location so he can visit the place this fall. >> >>If anyone has any memories or has heard anything about this, please drop >>me a line. >> >>Thanks, >>Dale Cox >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > FLJACKSO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Richard, A u-boat actually fired on either Daytona or Fort Lauderdale, I don't remember which. There used to be an exhibit about it at the Naval Aviation Museum in Pensacola (it may still be there). Dale Richard White <rw@pone.com> wrote: >DNDothan@cs.com wrote: > >>Richard, >> >>He was a U.S. Army pilot but your mention of the Chinese training at Tallahassee is fascinating.  Is the crash you mention the one at the sinks south of Tallahassee in the National Forest?  I walked the nature trail there once and you can still see the wreckage of the plane.  I don't remember the details from the trail guide. >> >>By the way, my dad was in training at the Naval Air Station in Pensacola at about that same time and tells a fascinating story about the crew of a German U-Boat coming ashore and knocking out a couple of guards at a fuel depot but being discovered before they could set it afire. I assume this is probably the same U-Boat that sailed into the harbor at Apalachicola, where locals claimed the Germans bought some fresh fruit and vegetables before heading back into the Gulf. Navy pilots out of Pensacola found the sub off Cape San Blas and sank it. >> >>Dale >> >In Fort Myers where I grew up there was a tradition that ein >Unterseeboot sailed up the Caloosahatchee and maybe dropped off a couple >of spies.  Whether or not there was any truth to the story, though, I >haven't a clue... > >The Chinese pilot's remains... what I heard was that the plane was found >in a swamp, so, it sounds like what you describe... where else would a >plane be likely to be lost hereabouts?  But I just don't know the >details... never did.  I do recall a short item about the discovery >being published in the Democrat, but I don't even recall the year.  My >best guess would be 1969, but it could have been anytime between 1967 >and 1970.  I believe that it was in the Winter, though, and that lack of >foliage at that time of year helped with the search. > >RW > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FLJACKSO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

DNDothan@cs.com wrote: >Richard, > >He was a U.S. Army pilot but your mention of the Chinese training at Tallahassee is fascinating. Is the crash you mention the one at the sinks south of Tallahassee in the National Forest? I walked the nature trail there once and you can still see the wreckage of the plane. I don't remember the details from the trail guide. > >By the way, my dad was in training at the Naval Air Station in Pensacola at about that same time and tells a fascinating story about the crew of a German U-Boat coming ashore and knocking out a couple of guards at a fuel depot but being discovered before they could set it afire. I assume this is probably the same U-Boat that sailed into the harbor at Apalachicola, where locals claimed the Germans bought some fresh fruit and vegetables before heading back into the Gulf. Navy pilots out of Pensacola found the sub off Cape San Blas and sank it. > >Dale > In Fort Myers where I grew up there was a tradition that ein Unterseeboot sailed up the Caloosahatchee and maybe dropped off a couple of spies. Whether or not there was any truth to the story, though, I haven't a clue... The Chinese pilot's remains... what I heard was that the plane was found in a swamp, so, it sounds like what you describe... where else would a plane be likely to be lost hereabouts? But I just don't know the details... never did. I do recall a short item about the discovery being published in the Democrat, but I don't even recall the year. My best guess would be 1969, but it could have been anytime between 1967 and 1970. I believe that it was in the Winter, though, and that lack of foliage at that time of year helped with the search. RW

Richard, He was a U.S. Army pilot but your mention of the Chinese training at Tallahassee is fascinating. Is the crash you mention the one at the sinks south of Tallahassee in the National Forest? I walked the nature trail there once and you can still see the wreckage of the plane. I don't remember the details from the trail guide. By the way, my dad was in training at the Naval Air Station in Pensacola at about that same time and tells a fascinating story about the crew of a German U-Boat coming ashore and knocking out a couple of guards at a fuel depot but being discovered before they could set it afire. I assume this is probably the same U-Boat that sailed into the harbor at Apalachicola, where locals claimed the Germans bought some fresh fruit and vegetables before heading back into the Gulf. Navy pilots out of Pensacola found the sub off Cape San Blas and sank it. Dale Richard White <rw@pone.com> wrote: > >A question, Dale:  Was the pilot in question U.S. or Chinese?  I >understand that a goodly number of Nationalist Chinese pilots were >trained at Dale Mabry Field in Tallahassee.  Some of my roommates at FSU >in the late 1960s were ROTC cadet officers.  They used 1940s reports of >a downed training aircraft the crash site of which was not located then, >and recovered the remains of a Nationalist Chinese pilot.  I believe >that the crash site was in Wakulla County... but it might have been >southern Leon County... > >I wish that I had paid more attention back then.  These same guys had >something to do with getting the battle streamer for FSU ROTC units. > >RW > >DNDothan@cs.com wrote: > >>I am trying to find the location of a 1944 military plane crash that happened in or near Two Egg.  Does anyone know anything about this? >> >>It was a training aircraft that struck a tree when the pilots where buzzing local homes for practice. The nephew of one of the men killed is trying to find the location so he can visit the place this fall. >> >>If anyone has any memories or has heard anything about this, please drop me a line. >> >>Thanks, >>Dale Cox >> > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FLJACKSO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Randy, The article I have doesn't mention names, just that the sheriff had gone out to look into it. I am confident it has to have been the same event, though. It was in the right area at the right time and with the right sequence of events. Dale "Randy Scott" <rscott@fdn.com> wrote: >Hi! Were you able to find that data about the vigilante lynching where Billy >Bazzell was  murdered by that dude abt 1860? Cuz. >----- Original Message ----- >From: <DNDothan@cs.com> >To: <fljackso@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 5:27 PM >Subject: [FLJACKSO] 1944 Two Egg Plane Crash > > >> I am trying to find the location of a 1944 military plane crash that >happened in or near Two Egg.  Does anyone know anything about this? >> >> It was a training aircraft that struck a tree when the pilots where >buzzing local homes for practice. The nephew of one of the men killed is >trying to find the location so he can visit the place this fall. >> >> If anyone has any memories or has heard anything about this, please drop >me a line. >> >> Thanks, >> Dale Cox >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >FLJACKSO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >in the subject and the body of the message >> > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FLJACKSO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

John, Thank you for the heads up. I will take a look. Dale JohnArden@aol.com wrote: >I believe you will find mention of it in an old Dothan Eagle.  Those  files >are in Genealogy.Com, >historical newspapers.  Some of them have been listed on Houston Co  web site >for past few months. >Do remember one crash from there mentioned, but not sure if it was Two  Egg. > > > >************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at >http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to FLJACKSO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >