This is getting better that the soaps on TV...Can't wait to get home from work each evening to read that day's episode...I do go on vacation in August...hope we can all settle this by then. I would hate to have to cancel vacation...but wouldn't want to miss out on any of this. Actually, this is a very interesting list, lots of very interesting and helpful people, even though we may not all share the same dictionary. So many have added to this list, as James, Jack, and Dale, etc. We've all gained so much knowledge from each other...and different interrputations of Ghost Town...Rich......... James L. Edenfield wrote: > > Are we done yet?? > > Heck no! This is just get interesting... I have to take a break once in a > while > and have fun ... > > In the last 24 hours I have entered over 1500 graves in the Master Cemetery > Index and posted them to the website.. > http://www.rootsweb.com/+AH4-fljackso/mindexes/mindexes.htm > > Cheers, > > James > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Littleton, Terry" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 3:20 PM > Subject: RE: [FLJACKSO] Town > > > If you all just spent as much time researching as arguing the semantics of > a > > word, look what all you might find. > > > > Are we done yet?? > > > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

About 1 1/2 to 2 years ago, someone responded to an inquiry I had on the list, for surname Rogers. I cannot locate their address. I seem to remember them knowing Rhonda Watson. Would that person please contact me again? Thanks Gloria

Don't reckon that you could get 6 people to give the same definition of what is a makes a town, and what a city, and what a neighborhood - so its perfectly alright if somebody wants to try a new definition. I never was too sure of the old one. ----- Original Message ----- From: Glen Nobles <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 1:30 PM Subject: [FLJACKSO] TOWN > It appears that some folks on this list are redefining the word "town" for us. > > Glen > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

I am very interested in your picture. Do you know who any of the other folks in the picture are? My husband's family lived in Cottondale around that time so I am hoping that one of them may be in your picture. Pam

If the meaning is up for a vote, I'll go for this one... [email protected] wrote: > >7 : a group of prairie dog burrows > Otherwise, I'm still trying to figure out how the Creek word talwa became translated as town, since they: (1) moved about hither, thither & yon, but kept the same name (the older location(s) often being referred to by the same name but with Tallassee or Tallahassee added) and (2) they tended to have any number of satelite settlements at considerable distances, which could also presumably move around, but were an integral part of the talwa. That doesn't sound much like a town to me. So, I'm with the prarie dogs... <G> RW

I agree. This whole discussion seems a bit silly to me. I suppose that one person's junk is another person's treasure, so to speak. I suggest that we just move on from debating what a town is and return to our discussions of history and family. Best, Dale Cox

> Are we done yet?? Heck no! This is just get interesting... I have to take a break once in a while and have fun ... In the last 24 hours I have entered over 1500 graves in the Master Cemetery Index and posted them to the website.. http://www.rootsweb.com/~fljackso/mindexes/mindexes.htm Cheers, James ----- Original Message ----- From: "Littleton, Terry" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 3:20 PM Subject: RE: [FLJACKSO] Town > If you all just spent as much time researching as arguing the semantics of a > word, look what all you might find. > > Are we done yet?? > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > >

Have you tried Classmates.com? Lee

I regret that some in this group have resorted to tacky comments. It's ironic that a group absorbed with family history can participate in jabbing of fellow Jacksonians when we should be embracing all of the opportunities that are present to communicate. Whatever happened to simple civility and kindness? If you aren't interested in the dialogue, don't respond. Personally, I enjoy the exchange of information. Pam Smith

Main Entry: ghost town Function: noun Date: 1931 : a once-flourishing town wholly or nearly deserted usually as a result of the exhaustion of some natural resource

If you all just spent as much time researching as arguing the semantics of a word, look what all you might find. Are we done yet??

Main Entry: town > Pronunciation: 'taun Function: noun Etymology: Middle English, from Old English tun enclosure, village, town; akin to Old High German zun enclosure, Old Irish dún fortress Date: before 12th century 1 dialect English : a cluster or aggregation of houses recognized as a distinct place with a place-name : <A HREF="http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=hamlet">HAMLET</A> 2 a : a compactly settled area as distinguished from surrounding rural territory b : a compactly settled area usually larger than a village but smaller than a city c : a large densely populated urban area : <A HREF="http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=city">CITY</A> d : an English village having a periodic fair or market 3 : a neighboring city, capital city, or metropolis 4 : the city or urban life as contrasted with the country 5 : the inhabitants of a city or town 6 : a New England territorial and political unit usually containing under a single town government both rural areas and urban areas not having their own charter of incorporation; also : a New England community governed by a town meeting 7 : a group of prairie dog burrows - town adjective - on the town : in usually carefree pursuit of entertainment or amusement (as city nightlife) especially as a relief from routine

I second that...I enjoy all thats on Jackson County. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 2:32 PM Subject: [FLJACKSO] Town > I regret that some in this group have resorted to tacky comments. It's > ironic that a group absorbed with family history can participate in jabbing > of fellow Jacksonians when we should be embracing all of the opportunities > that are present to communicate. Whatever happened to simple civility and > kindness? If you aren't interested in the dialogue, don't respond. > Personally, I enjoy the exchange of information. > Pam Smith > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

My comments was based on the definition of a "ghost town" taken from the Webster's New Word Dictionary not what I thought a term should or should not mean. Towns, communities, cities, and villages are all defined words and don't convey the same meaning if standard acceptable terminology is used. You can use "ghost town" as a generic term to refer to a pile of rocks to a city of one million people but when the term is used it should be so defined so that effective communications can take place. The equation "1 + 1 =10" is accurate and correct but won't convey the correct meaning unless I tell you that I am using the binary system of numbers not the decimal system. James James L. Edenfield Website: http://edenfield.org Email: [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Cc: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 10:02 AM Subject: Re: [FLJACKSO] "Ghost towns" I'm going to take a different viewpoint on this. I think "ghost towns" is a perfectly appropriate term for a community that included a few stores, post office, cotton gin, sawmill, grist mill, steamboat landing, etc. You can travel the western U.S. and see far smaller "ghost towns" than that. In fact, you can travel Florida today and see far smaller "cities" than some of the "ghost towns" being discussed here. Parramore, for example, at its height was far bigger than several modern day Jackson County "towns." Best, Dale Cox

While the subject of schools is open, I would like to ask if anyone knows of websites with photos of schools or school classes in the area of Cottondale in the early 1900's. I have an old class picture from around 1911 that includes my father, Adolphus Gray and is titled "Cottondale Primary School" on the back. There are also several people identified in the picture. I have tried to submit this photo before but I'm having trouble finding the right person. If anyone on the list can help direct me or just wants to see the picture, please contact me at [email protected] Thank you, Jim Gray

It appears that some folks on this list are redefining the word "town" for us. Glen

I'm going to take a different viewpoint on this. I think "ghost towns" is a perfectly appropriate term for a community that included a few stores, post office, cotton gin, sawmill, grist mill, steamboat landing, etc. You can travel the western U.S. and see far smaller "ghost towns" than that. In fact, you can travel Florida today and see far smaller "cities" than some of the "ghost towns" being discussed here. Parramore, for example, at its height was far bigger than several modern day Jackson County "towns." Best, Dale Cox

The issue was the terminology NOT whether or not the information was useful, interesting and helpful ... and it was NOT directed at Glenda. The term "Ghost towns" is misleading and inappropriate for a place that consisted of only a turpentine still, school house, store, etc that no longer exists. Also some of the "Ghost towns" listed were and are today just communities that appeared on old and current maps. Some that responded to the listings was interested in coming to Jackson Co. and finding some of those "Ghost town" so it was appropriate to clarify this before someone makes a trip and will be sorely disappointed.. James James L. Edenfield Website: http://edenfield.org Email: [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 8:28 PM Subject: [FLJACKSO] "Ghost towns" > Whether or not you agree with the terminology, the information found in the > little book Glenda has shared with us is valuable to researchers and > genealogists. I had records stating that my Cook ancestors lived at Haywood's > Landing, which I couldn't find on modern maps. When I saw the book on Fl. > Ghost Towns it solved that little mystery for me, and I'm sure the list has > been helpful to others as well. > Thanks, Glenda, for sharing! > Stephanie > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Whether or not you agree with the terminology, the information found in the little book Glenda has shared with us is valuable to researchers and genealogists. I had records stating that my Cook ancestors lived at Haywood's Landing, which I couldn't find on modern maps. When I saw the book on Fl. Ghost Towns it solved that little mystery for me, and I'm sure the list has been helpful to others as well. Thanks, Glenda, for sharing! Stephanie

Schools in Jackson County during that era were privately funded and usually associated with a plantation. For example, a plantation owner would sometimes hire a teacher at his expense and set up a school room on the grounds where his children (and sometimes those of the neighbors) were educated. There was an academy in Marianna prior to the War Between the States. It was located on approximately the site of today's Jackson County Board of Education offices and was used as a Confederate hospital during the war. The largest academy in the area was the Orange Hill Academy, a Baptist-sponsored institution at Orange Hill in Washington County. Many residents of both Jackson and Washington Counties sent their children there. Best, Dale Cox