Wayne Carpenter came by this morning and I asked him abt. this cemetery. He said it was located at the end of Kynesville Rd at Hiway 231.. and it was a very old and large cemetery.. James James L. Edenfield Website: http://edenfield.org Email: [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 1:59 AM Subject: [FLJACKSO] Salem Freewill Bapt. Church Cem > I hope this email is more coherent than the last one! > I am trying to find out where Salem Freewhill Baptist Church Cem is located. > I have seen the 1956 Hayes Survey and am hoping to find someone who can go to > the cem to try and locate a relative. > > Many thanks > Dianne > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

For those of you interested in the following: May 17-19 in Cottondale (west of Marianna, Jackson Co). Located at the Ani-Awia Intertribal Village on the grounds of the Eagle Trading Company Museum and Indian Store on Hwy 231, 3 miles north of Cottondale, this festival celebrates American Indian heritage. Prizes will be awarded in an intertribal dance competition with men, women, and children performing, plus Native American crafts, food, music, a wolf exhibition and featured NA artists....... Proceeds benefit the preservation of Native American history. Adm. $2. Call (850)352-4156. I have no connection with this, just interested in Native American history. Glenda.

The following entry is in the Alford Survey.. KYNES, Lelia A., b. Feb 24 1977 d. Dec 3 1957, Row 8, Grave 9 Does anyone know anything abt. this person? The dates appear to be reversed or are wrong... James James L. Edenfield Website: http://edenfield.org Email: [email protected]

I hope this email is more coherent than the last one! I am trying to find out where Salem Freewhill Baptist Church Cem is located. I have seen the 1956 Hayes Survey and am hoping to find someone who can go to the cem to try and locate a relative. Many thanks Dianne

Hi Folks, I am trying to find out more about Kynesville. Does anyone know when it became a settlement, city or town? Does anyone know if it was named for the Kynes Family that lived there in late 1940 and 41? Or if it was a city before then, was it named for Kynes family before that? I am trying to locate information on the Morris family that lived there. My grandmother was a Morris, kin to Gabe Morris- Miles David Morris- etc. Any help appreciated! Dianne KillebrewJohnson

Maybe someone on the list can help here...Betty Subj: Afro-Amer. Cemetaries/Doran Date: 05/04/2002 6:14:40 AM Eastern Daylight Time From: [email protected] In your research, have you, by chance ran into the surname Doran in any Afro-American cemetary? Thank You... R.W.Doran Jr.

I found these names on the Master Cem Index: http://www.rootsweb.com/~fljackso/cemetery.htm Maybe some one on the list can help here....Betty FULCHER Flossie Dec 7, 1923 Aug 17, 1983 Lynn Haven Community Cemetery (AfAm), Lynn Haven, Bay County, FL FULCHER Joseph P. 20 Jun 1905 19 Jun 1967 Mt. Pleasant Cemetery, Gadsden Co., FL Subj: re: Marianna, Jackson Co. Date: 05/04/2002 4:25:30 AM Eastern Daylight Time From: [email protected] (Suzy) To: [email protected] Hi Betty~ I am at a brick wall in my genealogy search. According to my research and family bibles, I have relatives that lived in Marianna between 1882-1910 approx. Their name is Fulcher and 3 generations should be together in one household according to the 1850 and 1860 census'. They are. .Joseph, Gabriella, Valentine Mott, Ella Jane, Nina Eva b.1885, Morris Joseph b. 1887, Ina b. 1890, Valentine William b. 1891-2. Joseph Fulcher d. 12May 1910--Gabriella d. 7Jan 1909--a Boy infant d. 1883(1 wk. old) and Ina d. 1890(6 wks. old) all died in Marianna and should be buried there. I sent for death certificates from Jacksonville for Joseph and Gabriella and received back papers that said no records were found. I have no idea as to what to do next. Any help you could give me would be greatly appreciated. Thank You~ Susan Fulcher Goetchius

I have added a few cemeteries and a few thousand graves to the master index. There are now 667 cemeteries and 105,152 graves indexed.. http://www.rootsweb.com/~fljackso/mindexes/mindexes.htm James James L. Edenfield Website: http://edenfield.org Email: [email protected]

Fortunately (or maybe unfortunately)... the USGenWeb project is voluneer only, meaning we are not allowed to have advertisements, except those that may appear on rootsweb (the free server we use). I imagine the reasoning, along with items you shared, might be to prevent the web sites from becoming cluttered with advertisements along with someone (an individual or group) profiting. Monies from advertising would have to be reported and tax records kept, requiring the individual (group) to formally organize with a tax identification number, and so on. So, to keep it simple you won't find a lot of advertisements or such on the web site or on the discussion list. Our group members might ask or mention some things which are usually very limited. My response on the places to stay was unbiased and I tried very hard when I created the "Places to Stay" web page for the page to be simple and factual. I personally have stayed in a few places in Jackson County but left my own opinions and experiences to myself. (besides, I doubt anyone wants to hear what I have to say, anyway... lol) Cindy list moderator innocent bystander unknown by many... loved by a few will still work for (boiled) peanuts

Because this is such a hot top in the genealogy community, I thought you might want to read some of the information from long-time researchers and "experts" in the field. Bob Davis has been in Georgia and Alabama genealogy circles for ages and is now Director at Wallace State College up near Birmingham. >From: Robert Scott "Bob" Davis <[email protected]> from Hanceville, Alabama - at the Family and Local History Program at Wallace State College >Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 10:26 AM >Subject: Identity theft and genealogy A question: > I wonder how many identity thefters are using the genealogy sites? KT My answer: > From what I have seen of identity thefts, none of the sources we use as genealogists that can be closed (funeral notices of dead children in old newspapers cannot be closed, for example) are used by identity thieves. Further, when security measures on birth certificates and other such records are implemented, it keeps honest citizens out while presenting no real obstacle for dishonest persons with criminal intent. As I point out in an upcoming article on changing identities in mid-nineteenth century America, recommendations were once considered a secure means of identity but that actually only gave honest people a false sense of security. Similarly, the restrictions on birth certificates etc. also give criminals a false credibility with people who do not know that such records are easily obtained by criminals. I saw someone on television who used to be in the false identity business but today works as a security consultant. He says that getting false identity is now easie! r than ever. Also FROM: Robert Davis at Wallace State Community College in Hanceville, Alabama: Alvie Davidson [from Lakeland, Florida and the Fl State Gen Soc] provides us with the following. It relates to efforts in California to close the indexes to births and deaths: "LEGISLATIVE REPORT - EXTRA - SB1614 - MAY 1, 2002 Iris Carter Jones CSGA Legislative Coordinator In my last report we covered Senator Speier SB1614 on vital records indexes and informed readers that the bill was scheduled to be heard on April 23, 2002, but the bill was amended April 15th in which all the indexes except the birth records were eliminated. The hearing on April 23, 2002 was canceled by the author and rescheduled on April 30, 2002. Again the bill was amended on April 24, 2002. This time it includes both birth and death record indexes. It requires that these indexes be considered confidential and be removed from coverage under the California Public Records Act. It requires the State and county recorders to develop a 'noncomprehensive index' for each which will contain some of the information included in the present indexes. These will then be available at the offices of the county recorders for 'viewing only' by the public. But government agencies are exempt. The next hearing is set for May 7, 2002. Meanwhile, the bill did not meet the scheduled cut off of April 26, 2002, the last day for policy committees to hear and report on fiscal bills introduced in their house. But the Senator was able to get an extension. I have included below the copy of the Counsel's Digest and the Bill language, if you want to read it yourself. Commentary: If the researchers in California do not want to see these important tools done away with and removed from 'Public Records' then it is imperative that you let the Senator and the Judiciary Committee know how you feel. There is no indication that these indexes contribute to identity theft. In fact, the most recent studies show, according to First Amendment Coalition's latest statements, that most identity thefts occur through the literal theft by friends, relatives, fellow workers or strangers, of wallets, purses or mail, or fraudulent address changes. This is what I have said all along. That the 'Indexes' do not create a threat to the theft of personal identities, but are a marvelous tool for family historians, family health researchers, heir finders, and estate lawyers. The loss of these indexes will be crippling to research. That the 'noncomprehensive index' can be viewed at the offices of county recorders is of little consolation. California researchers already know that more than half our county recorders, either do not have the manpower to facilitate the demands at the present time or will not willing comply. We have, over the years, fought at the county level to improve these situations, but in some cases it has prove useless. This mandate will just add to the overburdened State and county recorders, additional expenses and more work. This type of band-aid legislation does nothing to solve the problems of identity theft, and does punish the law abiding, voting, taxpayers, who have legitimate uses for the indexes. Energy would be better spent encouraging the enforcement of the present laws; furnishing our courts with the funds needed to do their jobs and help law enforcement do the same. The bill if passed out of the Judiciary Committee on May 7, 2002, must still go to another policy committee for hearing before going to the floor of the Senate for a vote. Consider writing to the author Senator Speier, State Capitol, Room 2032, Sacramento, CA 95814. (916) 445-05032/Fax (916)327-2186. Consider writing to the members of the Judiciary Committee: Senator Martha Escutia (Chair), Room 5080; Senator Ray Haynes (Vice Chair), Room 2187; Senator Dick Ackerman, Room 2032; Senator Sheila Kuehl, Room 4032; Senator Jack O'Connell, Room 5035; Senator Steve Peace, Room 3060; Senator Byron Sher, 2082. These too should be mailed to the State Capitol, (Room #), Sacramento, CA 95814. ---------------------------- LEGISLATIVE COUNSEL'S DIGEST: SB 1614, as amended, Speier. Public records: vital statistics Existing law requires the Director of Health Services, as the State Registrar of Vital Statistics, to administer the registration of births, deaths, fetal deaths, and marriages. Existing law requires the State Registrar to arrange and permanently preserve the certificates in a systematic manner and to prepare and maintain a comprehensive and continuous index of all certificates registered. Existing law, the California Public Records Act, requires state and local agencies to make records that are not otherwise exempt from disclosure available to the public upon receipt of a request that reasonably describes an identifiable record, and upon payment of fees to cover costs. This bill would require the comprehensive index described above, and birth and death record indices prepared or maintained by local registrars and county recorders, to be kept confidential, except that these indices may be disclosed to government agencies as prescribed by law. This bill would exempt these indices from disclosure under the California Public Records Act. This bill would require, on or before an unspecified date, the State Registrar to establish separate noncomprehensive electronic indices of all California birth and death records and make the indices continuously, electronically available to county recorders' offices statewide. This bill would require the noncomprehensive indices to be available at the State Registrar's office and in county recorders' offices for public inspection and viewing only, by individuals who have signed a standard form certifying, under penalty of perjury, that the information they view will not be used for criminal purposes. By expanding the scope of the crime of perjury, and by increasing the duties of local officials, this bill would impose a state-mandated local program. The California Constitution requires the state to reimburse local agencies and school districts for certain costs mandated by the state. Statutory provisions establish procedures for making that reimbursement, including the creation of a State Mandates Claims Fund to pay the costs of mandates that do not exceed $1,000,000 statewide and other procedures for claims whose statewide costs exceed $1,000,000. This bill would provide that with regard to certain mandates no reimbursement is required by this act for a specified reason. With regard to any other mandates, this bill would provide that, if the Commission on State Mandates determines that the bill contains costs so mandated by the state, reimbursement for those costs shall be made pursuant to the statutory provisions noted above. Vote: majority. Appropriation: no. Fiscal committee: yes. State-mandated local program: yes. THE PEOPLE OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA DO ENACT AS FOLLOWS: SECTION 1. Section 102230 of the Health and Safety Code is amended to read: 102230. (a) (1) The State Registrar shall arrange and permanently preserve the certificates in a systematic manner and shall prepare and maintain a comprehensive and continuous index of all certificates registered. (2) The birth and death record indices prepared pursuant to paragraph (1), and all birth and death record indices prepared or maintained by local registrars and county recorders, shall be kept confidential and shall be exempt from disclosure under the California Public Records Act (Chapter 3.5 (commencing with Section 6250) of Division 7 of Title 1 of the Government Code). (3) Nothing in this section shall prohibit the release of the information contained in comprehensive birth and death indices to government agencies as prescribed by law. (b) In addition to the indices prepared pursuant to subdivision (a), the State Registrar shall prepare separate noncomprehensive electronic! indices of all California birth and death records that shall be made available for public inspection pursuant to Section 102231. SEC. 2. Section 102231 is added to the Health and Safety Code, to read: 102231. (a) On or before ____, the State Registrar shall establish separate noncomprehensive electronic indices of all California birth and death records and make the indices continuously, electronically available to county recorders' offices statewide. Notwithstanding the California Public Records Act (Chapter 3.5 (commencing with Section 6250) of Division 7 of Title 1 of the Government Code), no part of these indices may be released to any individual or entity except as authorized by this section or Section 102230. (b) The separate noncomprehensive electronic indices prepared pursuant to this section shall be available at the State Registrar's office and in county recorders' offices for public inspection only and shall be subject to the following restrictions: (1) Availability to public inspection shall be limited to viewing only. (2) An individual who wishes to inspect the indices shall sign a standard form, as described in subdivision (d), certifying under penalty of perjury that the information he or she views will not be used for criminal purposes. (c) Notwithstanding any other provisions of law, including the California Public Records Act, the separate noncomprehensive electronic indices prepared pursuant to this section shall be the only birth and death record indices open to public inspection or otherwise available to the public. (d) The State Registrar shall develop a standard form to be signed by persons who wish to inspect the indices pursuant to paragraph (2) of subdivision (b). (e) For purposes of this section, "noncomprehensive index" means an index that contains some of the information contained in the index described in paragraph (1) of subdivision (a) of Section 102230. The State Registrar shall dete! rmine the information from birth and death records that shall be included in the noncomprehensive index based on the lawful uses that may be made of the noncomprehensive index and the privacy needs of individuals whose records are included in the index. SEC. 3. No reimbursement is required by this act pursuant to Section 6 of Article XIII B of the California Constitution for certain costs that may be incurred by a local agency or school district because in that regard this act creates a new crime or infraction, eliminates a crime or infraction, or changes the penalty for a crime or infraction, within the meaning of Section 17556 of the Government Code, or changes the definition of a crime within the meaning of Section 6 of Article XIII B of the California Constitution. However, notwithstanding Section 17610 of the Government Code, if the Commission on State Mandates determines that this act contains other costs mandated by the state, reimbursement to local agencies and ! school districts for those costs shall be made pursuant to Part 7 (commencing with Section 17500) of Division 4 of Title 2 of the Government Code. If the statewide cost of the claim for reimbursement does not exceed one million dollars ($1,000,000), reimbursement shall be made from the State Mandates Claims Fund.--

Seems to me like this would fall under the heading of advertisements and maybe some of these establishments would be willing to sponsor the Jackson webpage in exchange for the advertisement. Then again, would it be an all-inclusive list? Would some businesses say we were being un-fair by not including them? Would the "short reviews" be written by experts or by someone who just had a bad experience? Would the GenWeb people be liable for any "problems?" Patty --- [email protected] wrote: > Hi, Listers: Just a suggestion here, but ... > > Maybe someone (or several someones) need to put this > information (once and for all) on the JC and nearby > GENWEB Pages since it seems to come up often (especially > around the summer time). List the links (if there are > any) or phone numbers to contact the places, maybe have a > SHORT !!! review by people who have been there (including > the dates they visited/stayed), and then there won't > always be these isolated requests. We can just give them > the http:// info for where the information is on the JC > Web page. By having links that may exist to web pages > for the places to stay, the costs, current status of > accommodations and amenities can be kept up to date by > the places, rather than us guessing what things are like > nowadays. Ya think? > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online > genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - your guide to health and wellness http://health.yahoo.com

Hi, Listers: Just a suggestion here, but ... Maybe someone (or several someones) need to put this information (once and for all) on the JC and nearby GENWEB Pages since it seems to come up often (especially around the summer time). List the links (if there are any) or phone numbers to contact the places, maybe have a SHORT !!! review by people who have been there (including the dates they visited/stayed), and then there won't always be these isolated requests. We can just give them the http:// info for where the information is on the JC Web page. By having links that may exist to web pages for the places to stay, the costs, current status of accommodations and amenities can be kept up to date by the places, rather than us guessing what things are like nowadays. Ya think?

There are camping facilities...They may have cabins as well.. http://www.dep.state.fl.us/parks/index.asp It has been said that all rivers run to the ocean; but at Three Rivers State Park, all rivers run yet into another river. When the Chattahoochee and Flint rivers merge to form the Apalachicola River, the result is a peaceful, natural setting that offers the perfect opportunity to "get away from it all." --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.351 / Virus Database: 197 - Release Date: 4/19/02

This web page has 3 Master Indexes that James Edenfield has made for us researchers in North FL, and South AL and South GA. I just hope he keeps on going and going and going. http://www.rootsweb.com/~fljackso/mindexes/mindexes.htm Enjoy Betty

The following is the general directory information about the lodge: Seminole Lodge & Marina 2360 Legion Road Lake Seminole, Sneads 850-593-6886 I stayed there about 7 or 8 years ago, one night. So, I cannot state anything about the current accommodations. Cindy ========Original Message======== Subj: [FLJACKSO] Lake Seminole Lodging Date: 5/1/02 7:22:29 PM Central Daylight Time From: <A HREF="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</A> To: <A HREF="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</A> Sent from the Internet (Details) Maybe someone on the list knows more about this than I do. Please e-mail [email protected] ........Betty Subj: Lake Seminole Lodging Date: 05/01/2002 8:01:34 PM Eastern Daylight Time From: [email protected] Seeking additional information on lodging options near Three Rivers State Rec area. Please send me any info. Hoping to find cabin rentals, etc. What does Seminole Lodge and Marona offer? Thanks ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Maybe someone on the list knows more about this than I do. Please e-mail [email protected] ........Betty Subj: Lake Seminole Lodging Date: 05/01/2002 8:01:34 PM Eastern Daylight Time From: [email protected] Seeking additional information on lodging options near Three Rivers State Rec area. Please send me any info. Hoping to find cabin rentals, etc. What does Seminole Lodge and Marona offer? Thanks

I don't know how many of you have been watching Frontier House on PBS. It started here Monday night and tonight at 9 PM will finish it up. Of course PBS is running it over and over so everyone will see it. Three families go back to 1883 and really try to live like they did in Montana in those days. Sylvia (my daughter) and I love it. Well, in fact all my children and grandchildren are watching it. Hope it is on where you live. Betty

Hi Folks, I am trying to figure out a letter that I found in my family "junk" box. Truly some folks garbage is another's treasure. Has anyone a clue regarding this statement: "I can take The Arrow, which arrives there- (there would be Dothan or Jackson Co. Fla.)abt 4pm. I would leave on the 57. It leaves there about 4am and would get back in time for work. " I assume it was a bus line, or a train. I am trying to pinpoint who the people were. I know one was my 2nd Cousin Mary Francis, and the other 2 are either my grandmother or grand-aunt, and the t hird one would be either the mother or grandmother of Mary Francis. I need a tylenol. Thanks for any help you can come up with. Dianne

I received the following regarding Rootsweb message boards. If you've experienced problems today, this may be the explanation. Cindy *********************Message:****************************** In order to improve the Message Boards performance, we will be replacing one of its database servers on Tuesday, 30 April 2002 at 9:00 am MDT (Mountain Daylight Time). The server replacement may impact people's ability to log into the Message Boards. If all goes as planned, we expect the Message Boards to be back at peak performance by mid-afternoon (Mountain Daylight Time). We thank you for your patience during this time.

All of you who went to the cemetery at FSH with us. Natasha wants to interview you for her program Whit Gainey are you there call her. Betty Reply-to: [email protected] Hi. My name is Natasha Munkittrick. I am a reporter with WJHG, Channel Seven News out of Panama City. We are working on a story about the history of the FSH. It is to air this week. I know this is short notice, but if you could contact me, I would be so greatful! my phone numbers are: (850) 526-5727 or cell (850) 819-0083 or you can page me at (850) 335-0019 Thank you so much, Natasha