My Shiver family married into the Payne/Paine family in SC in late 1700's, both boys and girls. They then came into South GA before some of them came into AL in the early 1800's. About 25 years ago, I was in contact with one Payne descendant in the Anniston area. Some of them remained in S AL, probably in now Dale/Coffee Co area. The Payne line is in the newest Fam Tree Maker CD that is just out as I have received it but have not had time to look at it real close.