PLEASE! Can anyone tell me if it's possible to find MARRIAGES in the 1930's and 1940's or DIVORCES in the same time- frame for Hillsborough County, FL ( Tampa area ). Thank you very much. Dolores GOGETTYGAM@webtv.net

That information is not online. If you know the date and county of the marriage, you may order a copy of the marriage license from the clerk of the court. Also check out the Floriday Department of Health website, it will have more information on vital records available from them. http://vitalrec.com/fl.html Deborah Byrd ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dolores DOBSON" <GOGETTYGAM@webtv.net> To: "Deborah Byrd" <dbyrd@lightcom.net> Cc: <FLHILLSB-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2001 12:01 PM Subject: Re: [FLHILLSB] Message boards > PLEASE! Can anyone tell me if it's possible to find MARRIAGES in the > 1930's and 1940's or DIVORCES in the same time- frame for Hillsborough > County, FL ( Tampa area ). > Thank you very much. > Dolores > GOGETTYGAM@webtv.net >

Okay the message board system is up and running on Myfamily.com. They are very different from the old genconnect boards. All of the categories are listed on the board page, so no more separate query, deeds, bios, obits, wills, and deeds boards. When you post a message, the query category is the default so no need to select it if you are posting a query. If you are posting a deed etc, there is a pull down menu to select which category you are using. There are several search features, according to traffic on the board admin mailing list some of the search features seem to be acting up don't use the global one, it brings up ever message ever sent with the key word in it. the boolerian protocols for search words don't appear to be working yet. Have a look around, be patient, lots of bugs still in the system. Opinion is out on the new boards. Some love them, some hate them. Deborah Byrd

The query and data boards have been combined into one location. The links on the Web pages are now broke. I am swamped at work and don't know when I'll get the links fixed. Hopefully, I'll have some time on Sunday or the 4th of July (don't plan to be in the office that day) To get things caught up. Meanwhile enjoy your summer. Deborah Byrd website manager

----- Original Message ----- From: "jangil1" <jangil1@netzero.net> To: <FL-NE-CEMETERY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2001 2:46 PM Subject: [FL-NE-Cem] Tombstones > The following message came through the Camden County list. Thought it might be of interest to others. > Harriett > > Referring URL: > http://www.news4jax.com/jax/news/stories/news-81948120010613-200649.html > > Two headstones have been found in a parking lot at the University of St. > Augustine (Florida). The authorities do not know where they came from. > > One headstone is marked Jerry Johnson. He was 26 years old and died in > 1975. The other headstone belongs to a 3-year-old girl named Jane, last > initial C. She died in 1918. > > If you are on any Florida lists please feel free to forward this note to > those lists. > > I have checked my own Camden/Charlton County (Georgia) cemetery records but > have not found a match. While they probably came from Florida there is > really no way to be sure. > > If you know anything about these headstones, please contact the St. > Augustine police department so that they can return these headstones. The > news article did not state which police department is handling the case. > Here are addresses for the two I could find at Switchboard.com: > > St Augustine Police Dept > 151 King St > St Augustine, FL 32084-4325 > Phone: (904)825-1070 > > St Augustine Beach Police Dept > 2300 A1a S > St Augustine, FL 32080-2920 > Phone: (904)471-3600 > > Take care, > > Tara Fields > The Crypt > - Free Genealogy and History Web Site on Camden and Charlton Counties, Georgia > http://www.camdencounty.org > > > ==== CAMDEN Mailing List ==== >

Dorothy Elizabeth Cogland Services for Dorothy Elizabeth Cogland, 58, are at 11 a.m. Saturday, June 16, 2001, at Allen & Allen Funeral Chapel. The Rev. Dr. Julian Pipkin and the Rev. Lee Waller will officiate, and interment is in Laurel Hill Cemetery. Active pallbearers are Clyde Hudson, Butch Hudson, Mike Kitchens, David Kindred, Rudy Thompson and John Godwin. Mrs. Cogland died Thursday, June 14, at Archbold Hospital. Born Sept. 9, 1942, in Tampa, Fla., she was a daughter of Bessie Coffee Cox and the late George E. Cox. She was married to Tom D. Cogland, who preceded her in death. She was a homemaker. Survivors include her mother, Bessie Cox; sons and daughters-in-law, Greg and Melissa Cogland, Gary and Lisa Cogland; daughter, Angie Cogland and Jeff Hurst; brothers, Earl Cox, Edwin Cox, all of Thomasville; grandchildren, Matt Cogland, Marc Cogland, Chelseyn Cogland, Tabatha Hummel, all of Thomasville; and special friends, Darla and Durmon Bentley of Thomasville. Memorials may be made to Lewis Hall Singletary Oncology Center, 116 Mimosa Drive, Thomasville, Ga. 31792. The family will receive friends from 7 to 9 p.m. Friday at the funeral home. -- Allen & Allen Funeral Home

Here is a message that I received about the changes at rootsweb & ancestry. Deborah Byrd > IMPORTANT MESSAGE BOARDS IMPROVEMENTS > You have probably heard about the new message board changes coming about in > the next days and weeks. Ancestry.com and RootsWeb.com will be releasing a new > integrated message board system that is a combination of two powerful message > board systems (i.e., GenConnect and FamilyHistory.com). Users will be able to > take advantage of a much larger community in which to share experience, tips, > and genealogical information. > > Users will be able to access these new message boards on either RootsWeb.com > or Ancestry.com, and message board access will remain free on both sites. (Any > FamilyHistory.com bookmarks will be redirected to the message boards at > Ancestry.com) > > Overall, we expect the new system to be more stable and have more features. > Improvements include the following: > > --- The new message boards database will be by far the largest collection of > such messages on the Internet. In fact, the FamilyHistory and RootsWeb > messages are extremely complimentary. The majority of the messages on > FamilyHistory are surname-based, while RootsWeb's strength is in the locality > and topic areas. Not only will the new combination enjoy a larger set of data, > but users will have access to a much larger audience. > > --- The new message boards can now handle attachments to e-mail messages in > the form of uploaded pictures (scanned documents, family photos, etc.) and > GEDCOM files. > > --- Users will be able to view the e-mail address of message authors and be > able to respond to them easily and privately. However, the message boards > cannot be "crawled" by unscrupulous third parties to gather e-mail addresses > for spam mailings. > > --- Search functionality will be improved compared to either the RootsWeb or > FamilyHistory systems. Search hits will be ranked by relevance and wildcard > searches are available. > > --- The hardware infrastructure supporting the new message boards is faster, > can handle larger traffic loads, and is more stable. The new system is also > less expensive over time and easier to maintain. > > The boards, however, will definitely be different. We hope that we have > preserved the important features and conveniences from FamilyHistory.com as > well as added a few new bells and whistles. It is important to us that these > new boards continue to serve your needs. > > We will be working hard to help you learn about the features of the new system > so that they can continue to function as important research tools. Please help > us by being communicative yet patient as we launch the new system. > > Thanks again for your help. > > Jake Gehring > Product Manager > Ancestry.com

I'm new to this Site. I am searchng for the marriage records of Tom JORDAN & Rosie Sanders(Walker) in the 1940's. Also for the marriage records of Nelson JORDAN and Rosie Sanders Jordan in the late 1940's. Can Divorce records be accessed on-line for the 1940's? There was a divorce from Tom Jordan,> then marriage to Nelson Jordan>then divorce from Nelson Jordan. Any help will be deeply appreciated. Thank you, Dolores GOGETTYGAM@webtv.net

In the Tampa Tribune "Death Notices" are free, public notices and contain only the basic information on a person's death, these notices are NOT placed by families. Obituaries and Funeral Notices are placed by individuals and are a paid service. The Tampa Tribune carries Death Notices for Hillsborough County (and some surrounding counties). The free Death Notices which appear in the St Pete Times appear in the Tampa-section of the Times and come from the same source as the Tampa Tribune Death Notices. Ruskin is in Hillsborough County, the Trib would be the first place to look. Ruskin is also the location of "Sun City", which is a very large, organized Senior community and if they have a newspaper then that may be a source of further information. All that said I want to add an obvious point. Misspelling of names. The Trib has misspelled my family names, unidentifiably. I suggest you use Trails and search for just the first initial of the last name, then peruse all the names it offers. That's the way I found one of my relatives -- I'm a native of Hillsborough County and so was the relative. Lastly. Trails uses the heading "Obits" as the major reference to all death reports and then from that heading you'll find references to published death notices, funeral notices and actual obituaries, where they exist. All the death notices that were published in the Trib should be available in Trails.

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This is a long shot but some folks don't take the Tampa Tribune but subscribe to the St. Petersburg Times (St. Pete Times). the Times has local sections that could include south Hillsborough county which is where Ruskin is located. However, the Times is not indexed thru Thor or any other index that I have been able to find so far. In fact I need to go to the St. Petersburg Library to look thru the index for the paper to find obits I have promised folks. You can contact the Times online at stpetetimes.com and request a search and they will, for a fee. Just a shot in the dark since the Tribune us turning up any info. If some other lister has more info on researching the Times, I would be appreciative of that info as well. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donald Avery" <davery@drakausa.com> To: <FLHILLSB-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2001 8:03 AM Subject: [FLHILLSB] Thanks - Obit Search Help > Many thanks to all the listers with their suggestions as I look for obits on my relatives, Houston Avery & his wife. > > Just for the record, I've used the Trails portion of THOR in the past and have found other relatives before, including my grandparents. > > Coming from Massachusetts however, I am limited in a means of doing the research in FL. > > You all had some good suggestions and I'll do what I can to follow up on them. > > I wonder since the deaths didn't happen so far ago, does Ruskin have it's own city hall where vital records may be reviewed or will I still have to go to the county for this? > > Thanks again, > > Don Avery > > ______________________________ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donald Avery" <davery@drakausa.com> To: <FLHILLSB-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2001 8:03 AM Subject: [FLHILLSB] Thanks - Obit Search Help > Many thanks to all the listers with their suggestions as I look for obits on my relatives, Houston Avery & his wife. > > Just for the record, I've used the Trails portion of THOR in the past and have found other relatives before, including my grandparents. > > Coming from Massachusetts however, I am limited in a means of doing the research in FL. > > You all had some good suggestions and I'll do what I can to follow up on them. > > I wonder since the deaths didn't happen so far ago, does Ruskin have it's own city hall where vital records may be reviewed or will I still have to go to the county for this? > > Thanks again, > > Don Avery > > ______________________________

Try the Bradenton Herald: (http://web.bradentonherald.com) They're pretty close to Ruskin. You also might want to check Sun City Ceter's newspaper (I think its called the Sun). Try 813-689-7764 or 813-634-9258. Ruskin is a neighboring town so obituaries of its residents might be published in the Sun. If the Sun itself doesn't have accessible copies, you could try the University of South Florida's special collections department, 813-974-2731. Hope this helps, Brian Salmons __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/

one more that i just found on northernlight http://www.usgennet.org/usa/fl/county/hillsborough/ haven't looked though it but it looks interesting

Don, the Tampa Hillsborough Museum might be able to answer your question about the newspapers. here is the link, there is a link to send an email at the bottom of the home page. http://www.tampabayhistorycenter.org

Many thanks to all the listers with their suggestions as I look for obits on my relatives, Houston Avery & his wife. Just for the record, I've used the Trails portion of THOR in the past and have found other relatives before, including my grandparents. Coming from Massachusetts however, I am limited in a means of doing the research in FL. You all had some good suggestions and I'll do what I can to follow up on them. I wonder since the deaths didn't happen so far ago, does Ruskin have it's own city hall where vital records may be reviewed or will I still have to go to the county for this? Thanks again, Don Avery

Marc, I disagree with you. THOR has all the obits on line, at least I was able to find my gr grand father who died in 1929, gr father in 1949 and others. I did this a month ago. The collection that they have is extensive and dates back to the early 1900's. They also have the Sunland Tribune that was published in Hillsborough county and the Tampa Times. In addition, the collection of census extends all over the US. The library does not charge for making copies of obits if you do it in person, only for the copy chg of 25 cents. I am not sure if they charge or even if they look and copy things for you upon request.

I, too, have found obits in the Trails section of THOR. By typing in the name, I got the name, date, page and section of the newspaper where the obit could be found. I printed out that info and took it to the reference desk of my public library and filled out a form. My library requested the info on Interlibrary Loan from the Hillsborough Co. Library. One time, they (Hillsborough) printed out the obit and mailed it back to the local library where I picked it up. Another time, I think they sent the roll of microfilm to the local library, and I had to look it up and print it, but I don't think that's the normal procedure. At any rate, it's very easy to do. My obits were from 1963 and 1968 and were in the Tampa Tribune Cynthia

Perhaps the confusion lies in the fact that the word 'index' has not been used. What everyone has said is correct, and probably just needs to be stated that Thor has the 'index' of obits, not the actual obits, from the middle 1800's to about 1980 (I have found some recently, so they are making delightful progress!). I might also mention that the Plant City History Center on Collins Street has a lot of microfiche of the Plant City newspapers. I just do not recall how current they are, but I have found a lot of family information in that history center. Here is the information: The Quintilla Geer Bruton Archives Center is located at the ground floor of the 1914 Plant City High School Community Center, 605 North Collins Street, Plant City, Florida 33566. The Center holds more than 2,000 books, family, historical, genealogical and photographic files, periodicals, newspapers and records on microforms. The Archives Center is open Tuesdays from 10 a.m. to 8 p.m. and Wednesdays, Thursdays, Fridays and Saturdays from 1-5 p.m. The telephone number is 813 754-7031. Joycce Bruce Cardner wrote: > Hi, > THOR does have obits from late 1800's up to around 1970. I go there, look > up what I can find, go the library here in Lakeland, and they order > photocopies for me for free. Volunteers have transcribed them for years. > I have some for my grandparents, and articles on my great grandparents from > many years ago. > Be sure to look under TRAILS, as that is the database where articles and > obits are found. It takes several weeks to get them, but it is well worth > the wait. The librarians have gone out of their way to be helpful. Not all > obits are there by any means, but many from Lakeland are. I am sure there > are for other areas as well. I remember that in the 60's era (giving away > my age) obits that appeared in the Lakeland Ledger often were in the Tampa > Trib as well. > http://www.thpl.org/thpl/eresources/thor/trails.html > Sydney > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Whetsel" <mwhetsel@worldnet.att.net> > To: <FLHILLSB-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2001 5:39 PM > Subject: Re: [FLHILLSB] Obit Search Help > > > Don, > > > > The Tampa Tribune is THE source for obits in the five county area. There > > have been some small weekly publications throughout the county, but none > > that have survived or have been preserved. More than likely, the obits you > > are looking for are available in the Tribune archives. > > > > The problem that keeps appearing here on the mailing list is > misinformation > > regarding THOR. It is a fantastic database for the holdings of the Tampa > > Hillsborough Library...if you are looking for reference books, tapes, > films, > > music, etc., etc. It lists all the holdings of the Tampa Library. It does > > NOT have obits any further back than 3 years and MANY of them are not > > entered into the THOR database, or for some reason are not accessible > > online. > > > > Obits for any earlier than 1998 must be retrieved manually either at the > > library or from the Tampa Tribune office. The Tribune and the Library both > > charge fees for doing this. Additionally, there are some local individuals > > on the mailing list who either do it on a volunteer or cost basis. > > > > I hope this clarifies the use of the THOR database for all those who have > > been frustrated by using it. > > > > Marc Whetsel > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Donald Avery <davery@drakausa.com> > > To: <FLHILLSB-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: May 23, 2001 4:03 PM > > Subject: [FLHILLSB] Obit Search Help > > > > > > | Listers: > > | > > | Is there another newspaper other than the Tampa Tribune which would > cover > > obits. for Ruskin, FL ?? > > | > > | I already tried the THOR database looking for Houston Avery who died > Oct. > > 1986 along with his lovely bride, Lear (Garner) Avery who died in May > 1993, > > both in Ruskin. > > | > > | Any ideas please ?? > > | > > | Thanks > > | > > | Don Avery > > | Massachusetts > > | > > | > > | ============================== > > | Visit Ancestry's Library - The best collection of family history > > | learning and how-to articles on the Internet. > > | http://www.ancestry.com/learn/library > > | > > > > > > ============================== > > Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: > > Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. > > http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com > > > > > > ============================== > Shop Ancestry - Everything you need to Discover, Preserve & Celebrate > your heritage! > http://shop.myfamily.com/ancestrycatalog

Hi, THOR does have obits from late 1800's up to around 1970. I go there, look up what I can find, go the library here in Lakeland, and they order photocopies for me for free. Volunteers have transcribed them for years. I have some for my grandparents, and articles on my great grandparents from many years ago. Be sure to look under TRAILS, as that is the database where articles and obits are found. It takes several weeks to get them, but it is well worth the wait. The librarians have gone out of their way to be helpful. Not all obits are there by any means, but many from Lakeland are. I am sure there are for other areas as well. I remember that in the 60's era (giving away my age) obits that appeared in the Lakeland Ledger often were in the Tampa Trib as well. http://www.thpl.org/thpl/eresources/thor/trails.html Sydney ----- Original Message ----- From: "Whetsel" <mwhetsel@worldnet.att.net> To: <FLHILLSB-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2001 5:39 PM Subject: Re: [FLHILLSB] Obit Search Help > Don, > > The Tampa Tribune is THE source for obits in the five county area. There > have been some small weekly publications throughout the county, but none > that have survived or have been preserved. More than likely, the obits you > are looking for are available in the Tribune archives. > > The problem that keeps appearing here on the mailing list is misinformation > regarding THOR. It is a fantastic database for the holdings of the Tampa > Hillsborough Library...if you are looking for reference books, tapes, films, > music, etc., etc. It lists all the holdings of the Tampa Library. It does > NOT have obits any further back than 3 years and MANY of them are not > entered into the THOR database, or for some reason are not accessible > online. > > Obits for any earlier than 1998 must be retrieved manually either at the > library or from the Tampa Tribune office. The Tribune and the Library both > charge fees for doing this. Additionally, there are some local individuals > on the mailing list who either do it on a volunteer or cost basis. > > I hope this clarifies the use of the THOR database for all those who have > been frustrated by using it. > > Marc Whetsel > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Donald Avery <davery@drakausa.com> > To: <FLHILLSB-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: May 23, 2001 4:03 PM > Subject: [FLHILLSB] Obit Search Help > > > | Listers: > | > | Is there another newspaper other than the Tampa Tribune which would cover > obits. for Ruskin, FL ?? > | > | I already tried the THOR database looking for Houston Avery who died Oct. > 1986 along with his lovely bride, Lear (Garner) Avery who died in May 1993, > both in Ruskin. > | > | Any ideas please ?? > | > | Thanks > | > | Don Avery > | Massachusetts > | > | > | ============================== > | Visit Ancestry's Library - The best collection of family history > | learning and how-to articles on the Internet. > | http://www.ancestry.com/learn/library > | > > > ============================== > Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: > Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. > http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com > >

Don, The Tampa Tribune is THE source for obits in the five county area. There have been some small weekly publications throughout the county, but none that have survived or have been preserved. More than likely, the obits you are looking for are available in the Tribune archives. The problem that keeps appearing here on the mailing list is misinformation regarding THOR. It is a fantastic database for the holdings of the Tampa Hillsborough Library...if you are looking for reference books, tapes, films, music, etc., etc. It lists all the holdings of the Tampa Library. It does NOT have obits any further back than 3 years and MANY of them are not entered into the THOR database, or for some reason are not accessible online. Obits for any earlier than 1998 must be retrieved manually either at the library or from the Tampa Tribune office. The Tribune and the Library both charge fees for doing this. Additionally, there are some local individuals on the mailing list who either do it on a volunteer or cost basis. I hope this clarifies the use of the THOR database for all those who have been frustrated by using it. Marc Whetsel ----- Original Message ----- From: Donald Avery <davery@drakausa.com> To: <FLHILLSB-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: May 23, 2001 4:03 PM Subject: [FLHILLSB] Obit Search Help | Listers: | | Is there another newspaper other than the Tampa Tribune which would cover obits. for Ruskin, FL ?? | | I already tried the THOR database looking for Houston Avery who died Oct. 1986 along with his lovely bride, Lear (Garner) Avery who died in May 1993, both in Ruskin. | | Any ideas please ?? | | Thanks | | Don Avery | Massachusetts | | | ============================== | Visit Ancestry's Library - The best collection of family history | learning and how-to articles on the Internet. | http://www.ancestry.com/learn/library |