Thanks Deborah-thats helpful! Laura >From : CMT261@aol.com To : FLHILLSB-L@rootsweb.com Subject : Re: [FLHILLSB] From list mom & Royal American Shows Date : Fri, 25 Oct 2002 09:06:25 EDT _________________________________________________________________ Surf the Web without missing calls! Get MSN Broadband. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/freeactivation.asp

Got this addy,but no obit to look for- need a name- ----- Original Message ----- From: <FUSWA@aol.com> To: <FLHILLSB-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2002 9:15 AM Subject: Re: [FLHILLSB] Please anyone willing to do an obit? > <A HREF="http://archive.tampatrib.com/">The Tampa Tribune</A> > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

<A HREF="http://archive.tampatrib.com/">The Tampa Tribune</A>

Please, someone I need obit from the Tampa Tribune on the following: MCKAY, Delila, Neal McGill: 82 1978 Date: 31 May 1976 Deaths-p.D7-Fl. deaths-pD7 Hillsborough She is the G. Grandaughter of ISAAC JOHNSON bn. 1827 in Va. Isaac's daughter was Delila Belle Johnson. She married a Cather and than a Neal. It's very imp. that I trace this family. Many thanks for any help on this. Phyllis

fyi Deborah Byrd ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lorine McGinnis Schulze" <otg@csolve.net> To: <FLORIDA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2002 5:14 AM Subject: [FLORIDA] *NEW* MINORCANS TO FLORIDA online > MINORCANS TO FLORIDA > > Thanks to the hard work of Lucie Servole Myers, Olive Tree > Genealogy has an original research project reconstructing > names of colonists of Greek, Italian, Minorcan and Turkish > origins to Florida in May 1768. > > Eight ships sailed under the direction of Andrew Turnbull. > Lucie has reconstructed the names of 431 passengers on board > the 8 ships. This is a wonderful database and I owe a big > thank you to Lucie for allowing OTG to publish this online > for all to use. > > The ships are organized in the following immigrant groups: > > Passengers from Spain > http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/toflaspain.shtml > > Passengers from Greece > http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/toflagreece.shtml > > Passengers from Corsica > http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/toflacorsica.shtml > > Passengers from Canary Islands > http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/toflacanary.shtml > > Passengers from Italy > http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/toflaitaly.shtml > > Passengers from Balearic Islands > http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/toflabalearic.shtml > > Good luck to everyone looking for an ancestor! As always, > this Olive Tree database is available for free for all > researchers. > > Lorine > > **Search Ships Passenger Lists to USA > http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/search_ships.shtml > > **Search Ships Passenger Lists to Canada > http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/search_shipscanada.shtml > > **Search Ships Passenger Lists to Australia/New Zealand > http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/searchships_aus.shtml > > otg@csolve.net > > >

Royal American Shows was the midway for the Florida State Fair, might still be, I'm not sure. Many of its members spent their winters here fixing up their equipment, many in the Riverview area, they still do.

>From an email I received today, I tried the URL and it worked for me E-mail message From: cyndihow@oz.net (Cyndi Howells) Date: Wed, Oct 23, 2002, 11:11am (CDT-2) 1880 & 1881 Censuses Online from FamilySearch! Hello all - Our friends at the The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints have placed three valuable databases online today, all free to search: 1880 United States Census 1881 Canadian Census 1881 British Census http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/frameset_search.asp?PAGE=census/search_census.asp http://www.familysearch.org/ The official press release from the Church is below. What a wonderful gift for all of us during Family History Month! Have fun, Cyndi ---------------------------------------------- NEWS RELEASE Free Internet Access to Invaluable Indexes of American and Canadian Heritage 23 October 2002 Two Nations Celebrate in Dozens of Concurrent News Conferences SALT LAKE CITY -- In honor of Family History Month, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is making invaluable indexes of American and Canadian heritage available free to the public at the touch of a button. The 1880 United States Census and the 1881 Canadian Census, searchable databases of more than 55 million people, are now on the Internet, signifying another great leap forward in online family history research. The online availability of the two censuses was announced by President Gordon B. Hinckley in the historic Tabernacle on Temple Square in Salt Lake City with the Mormon Tabernacle Choir singing "O Canada" and "The Star-Spangled Banner." Dozens of other press conferences were held across Canada and the United States, from Edmonton to Toronto and from Los Angeles to Washington, D.C., making this the largest family history announcement in the history of the Church. The chances of today's Canadians and Americans finding ancestors in the online databases are extraordinary. If a person's family lived in one of these two nations during the 1880s and was counted in the census, becoming connected to the past is quick and easy. Elder D. Todd Christofferson, executive director of the Family and Church History Department, said: "People used to search through rolls and rolls of microfilm with varying degrees of success. Now with just a few keystrokes, they can search through millions of records from anywhere at anytime." Genealogist David Rencher, who has spent years researching his family tree, knows what a valuable tool the indexes can be in finding ancestors who were once lost. "You can learn about their lives, who they were and what they did. It's like taking a trip in a time machine," Rencher said. "I used to think that I was looking for other people, someone from the past. Now I realize that through all of the searching for others, what I found was myself." The censuses paint a portrait of two nations, capturing Canada as a burgeoning nation in its infancy and America embarking on its second 100 years at the beginning of the industrial revolution. Robert Bothwell, professor of history at the University of Toronto said, "The 1880s are a period in which Canada consolidates itself as a transcontinental political entity and in which a group of scattered and disparate settlements are unified into a single, quite successful political constitutional system." The census makes legendary figures come alive for today's Canadians including the nation's first prime minister, John A. Macdonald; Ojibwa Chief Jacob Berens; painter Robert Harris; Anne of Green Gables author Lucy Maud Montgomery; poet and entertainer Pauline Johnson; composer Antoine Gerin-Lajoie; soldier and educator Arthur William Currie; Victoria Cross recipient William Hall; suffragist Emily Howard Stow; and the creator of basketball, James Naismith.   From Wild West legends and influential artists to ambitious industrialists and ingenious inventors, many of the personalities listed in the 1880 United States census are representative of the expansion, innovation and development of the nation. Author Mark Twain (Samuel Clemens), entertainer William "Buffalo Bill" Cody, inventor Thomas Edison, Uncle Tom's Cabin author Harriet Beecher Stowe, African-American leader Booker T. Washington, inventor Alexander Graham Bell, the Wright brothers, composer John Philip Sousa, Little Women author Louisa May Alcott, human rights advocate Frederick Douglass, and businessmen John D. Rockefeller, Henry Ford and George Westinghouse are just a few of the notable names found in the census. Columbia University historian Richard Bushman said, "All those people piled together, working their way upward and outward, trying to find a toehold that's what history is and the history of one ancestor is a microcosm of the whole country." Members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and others volunteered to do the indexing for the1880 U.S. Census, which took 17 years, and the 1881 Canadian Census, which took four years. The Minnesota Population Center at the University of Minnesota and the Institute of Canadian Studies at the University of Ottawa were partners with the Church to help "clean" the data a process of standardizing names and localities, and organizing the data for easy retrieval. The data also is available on CD. For those with British roots, a searchable index of the 1881 British Census is also online, bringing the total number of census names available for family history enthusiasts to 85 million. ---------------------------------------------- Reprinted with permission: http://www.lds.org/media2/newsrelease/0,5637,203-1-13102,00.html

Please, someone I need obits from the Tampa Tribune on the following: MCKAY, Delila, Neal McGill: 82 1978 Date: 31 May 1976 Deaths-p.D7-Fl. deaths-pD7 Hillsborough and JOHNSON, GERTRUDE T.: 84, 1962 Date: 03 Dec. 1962 Publ. Tampa Tribune Sec. F.N.-p.A2 I would be most grateful for any help on this. Phyllis

To whoever is looking for William Ervin Jones, You didn't sign your name so I didn't know who to address this to. I found out a little info on your William Jones, possibly this will help you get in touch with family. First I found death certificate info: William Ervin Jones Vol# 1834 Certificate# 33240 Hills. w/m Nov 1956 William Ervin Jones Jr. Certificate# 111393 Hills. w/m b. 1 Mar 1923 d. 27 Nov 1987 Almus J. Jones Vol# 2619 Certificate# 41455 Hills. w/m Sep 1964 I found in the Hillsborough County, a deed, Book 3221/Page 484 Official Records Book. Listed Grantors as Thelma Irene Jones Allen Shirley Patricia Carter Lenore Marie Genaurdi Almus J. Jones(dec'd) Daniel Allen Jones Donald Lee Jones Henry Grady Jones (dec'd) Irene Jane Jones Jake Jones Josie Jones(dec'd) Kenneth Len Jones Leonard Jones(dec'd) Muriel Marie Jones Ronald J. Jones Ted B. Jones(dec'd) Virginia E. Jones William E. Jones William Ervin Jones(dec'd) Sandra Lee Sumner The recorded date is 31 Mar 1977 There is also a deed, Book 2480, Page 355 dated 15 May 1972 that lists Almus J. Jones and Queenie E. Jones, Grantors I found an obituary for the following: William Ervin Jones, 74, of 3812 51st St., died yesterday at his residence. He was a native of Alabama and was a resident of Tampa for 31 years. Survivors include his widow, Mrs. Josie Jones, two daughters, Mrs. Thelma Allen, Mrs. Lucille Davies, both of Tampa. Five sons, H. G. (Doc) Jones, Almus J. Jones, Leonard Jones, all of Tampa. Ted B. Jones of Connecticut and William E. Jones Jr. of Chattanooga, an uncle, Jim Johnson of Seffner. 15 Grandchildren and 3 great grandchildren. Dated 29 Nov 1956, Tampa Tribune William "Bill" E. Jones Jr., 64, of Tampa, died Friday (27 Nov 1987) Born in Birmingham, Ala, he lived in Tampa, most of his life. He was a paint and body repairman. He was a WWII veteran, who served in the U. S. Navy Seabees Survivors include his wife, Ila, Tampa; 3 sons, Thomas, Cudahy, California William J., Belleflower, California; and Jerry E. Lamirada, California; 3 daughters, Deborah L. Nichols, Bowling Green, FL; Donna C. Savin, Rowland, California; and Thelma Allen, Tampa. 10 grandchildren, Garden of Memories and Mrytle Hill Funeral Home, Tampa Death Certificate information for Ila Jones, b. 20 Apr 1927, d. 28 Mar 1991 Hardee Co, FL Certificate# 29210 Death Certificate information for Queenie Jones, b. 7 Mar 1915, d. 1 Jun 1972. Certificate# 40859 Hillsborough Co., FL Death Cerificate Information for Josie Jones, Vol# 3126 Certificate# 45028 d. Aug 1968. I also found a Deborah L. Nichols Richardson, Hardee County, FL following address 5051 Central Avenue, Bowling Green, FL 33834-2878. I hope this helps you locate some of your family, good luck in your search. Sheila Taylor FLGenWeb Census Coordinator FLGenExchange Hills. Co. Coordinator -------Original Message------- From: FLHILLSB-L@rootsweb.com Date: Monday, October 21, 2002 03:52:10 To: FLHILLSB-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [FLHILLSB] Jones/Tampa I am searching for the relatives of William Ervin Jones,Sr. & Jr. Both are buried in The Garden of Memories Cemetary. The elder had several siblings in the area. Some of their names were, Leonard, Almus, Doc,Ted, & Thelma(married an Allen). They moved to the Tampa area after the younger William was born (1923). We think there are lots of relatives still in the area that might help put their history together. Any help will be greatly appreciated, as we've searched a long time. To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetidW1&sourceid37

Annette, I have researched one on the Simmons lines in Hillsborough County. This line is that of John F. Simmons who died in 1885 and is buried in the Turkey Creek Cemetery. John came from Central Georgia and had a large family. He was married twice: 1st wife Marry Kelly who died in Georgia, and 2nd wife Ellafair (spelled many different ways) Barber. There is also a Lacy Simmons in the Hillsborough County Census and there is an indication that one of John Simmons relatives from Georgia was a Lacy Simmons. Have not bee able to verify whether there was a relation. Ludo Van Den Bogaert Plant City, Florida Researching: Rogers, Simmons, Walden, DeShong, Dowdy, Barber, Frazier, Dyar

Well said Deborah! This is a great, well run and informative list. This is the first I've ever seen mentioned of any problems. That aside; Can anyone give me any info on the Royal American Shows? traveling carnival that came through FL ? Seems one of our Patterson Aunts was a part of it and maybe even my husbands mother. Thanks, Laura C.Patterson >From: FLHILLSB-D-request@rootsweb.com >Reply-To: FLHILLSB-L@rootsweb.com >To: FLHILLSB-D@rootsweb.com >Subject: FLHILLSB-D Digest V02 #115 >Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2002 04:00:39 -0600 > ><< message2.txt >> ><< message4.txt >> ><< message6.txt >> ><< message8.txt >> _________________________________________________________________ Get faster connections -- switch to MSN Internet Access! http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp

I am searching for the relatives of William Ervin Jones,Sr. & Jr. Both are buried in The Garden of Memories Cemetary. The elder had several siblings in the area. Some of their names were, Leonard, Almus, Doc,Ted, & Thelma(married an Allen). They moved to the Tampa area after the younger William was born (1923). We think there are lots of relatives still in the area that might help put their history together. Any help will be greatly appreciated, as we've searched a long time.

Well said Deborah! Thank you.

Sorry guys, but I do ask that you take the family reunion off line. I am getting lots of rejects from Hotmail with full inboxes. A reminder for us all, to remember to down load our messages from the servers or, at least, make sure that we delete off of the server the read messages and try to save them on your own harddrives. If your e-mail box is too full to receive a message, the server, think post office, will reject the unopened message, think of return to sender, and you will never know it happened. Another message smaller than the first one and the amount of space left in your server e-mail box will be delivered. Sorry if this is old hat to some of you. Got to run, Setting up a Move, trying to find a new one and trying to sell the house while still working is so much fun. I can't express the depth of my enthusiasm. List Mom Deborah Byrd PS if you are looking for family in Hills pre 1890, try some of the surrounding counties. I know that Hernando County supplied many of Tampa's turn of the century residents. dwb

GAD guys, I am only out of pocket for a couple of days and pot shots start. Calm down, hate to say it but ya'll (practicing my southern) remind me of my Sunday School nursery students! First the list is too chatty, now too many emails. We have a family reunion going on, be a little patient. Remember the excitement you felt with your first discoveryof a connection on a list or the internet? As Grandma used to say with a chuckle every time a grandchild was born, what comes around goes around. Be patient, curteous, and kind, and you'll receive it back. If you have a problem with content talk to me or the people PRIVATELY off line. Airing of disagreements needs to be off line, not on line? I don't want to have to moderate this list or remove people because they can't play nice. I don't have time to babysit. You have been a very well mannered list. Please keep up the good manners and behaviour. Thank you List Mom Deborah Byrd

For the record I (temdc) was NOT one of The Two that was creating all that email. I sent in one email only.

--WebTV-Mail-3894-23 Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit .I totally agree with you about exchanging email addresses from each other.___ MY mailbox is totally bombarded by these people and their personal info. I had 20 in my mailbox yesterday and 20 today. . .As a courtesy to the List, I always give my email address so as not to clutter the List 's mailboxes..... I'd really recommend the same for you guys. Just because List Mom is on-the-road moving, don't take advantage of the situtation, please....... You're filling our mailbox up with your personal info. . .This is toooo much. I'm unsubscribing to this List until List Mom can get it straightened out. . .Thanks, D.W. --WebTV-Mail-3894-23 Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Message/RFC822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Received: from smtpinvite-2001-6.public.lawson.webtv.net (172.16.213.206) by storefull-2194.public.lawson.webtv.net with WTV-SMTP; Tue, 15 Oct 2002 18:10:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.rootsweb.com (lists2.rootsweb.com [207.40.200.39]) by smtpinvite-2001-6.public.lawson.webtv.net (WebTV_Postfix+sws) with ESMTP id A2504FE06; Tue, 15 Oct 2002 18:10:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists2.rootsweb.com (8.12.4/8.12.4) id g9G17q8U005424; Tue, 15 Oct 2002 19:07:52 -0600 Resent-Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 19:07:52 -0600 X-Original-Sender: PMcSwain@peoplepc.com Tue Oct 15 19:07:51 2002 X-Sent: 16 Oct 2002 01:08:01 GMT Message-ID: <002401c274c9$2e589140$fdfee243@oemcomputer> From: "Peggy Mcswain" <PMcSwain@peoplepc.com> Old-To: <FLHILLSB-L@rootsweb.com> References: <1e.181810.2ade023c@aol.com> <002101c274ac$406edf00$d1cfaa42@arascoe> Subject: Re: [FLHILLSB] Hutchinson Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 21:04:48 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Resent-Message-ID: <a5M8ZB.A.FUB.ovLr9@lists2.rootsweb.com> To: FLHILLSB-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: FLHILLSB-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: FLHILLSB-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: <FLHILLSB-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/789 X-Loop: FLHILLSB-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: FLHILLSB-L-request@rootsweb.com maybe you guys should exchange e-mail addys for this - I must have 20 e-mails all on this subject - not totally complaining or anything,but my box has been slamed with e-mail from the 2 of you - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Annette Rascoe" <arascoe@lcc.net> To: <FLHILLSB-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 5:37 PM Subject: [FLHILLSB] Hutchinson > No, we're white. I've traced my American ancestors back to Pennsylvania in > 1769 where John Hutchison married Letitia Wright and eventually fought with > the British after moving to South Carolina. His descendants went on to > Georgia, Alabama, and then to Florida. My father was Lewis Benjamin > Hutchinson, b. in Hillsborough Co in 1908, married C. Irene Van Alstine in > 1930, and died in Brandon in 1992. > > Annette > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <Temdc@aol.com> > To: <FLHILLSB-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 6:43 PM > Subject: Re: [FLHILLSB] Searching for early settlers of East Hillsborough > Co., Fl. > > > Are your Hutchinsons Black? I am related to a Lewis and Harriet Hutchinson > of Putnam, FL. Their children scattered around FL. Their sons were named > John Enoch Geo Sam and Will. > > temdc > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go > to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 --WebTV-Mail-3894-23--

Hi Suebod, You are so blessed to know so much about your heritage! I can't even get past my grandparents on any side! I have hearsay, bits & pieces. So hear goes, maybe someone out there knows this family.... My grandma was b. Pency Mae Davis 1907, Baker Co. Fl. Her mother is believed to have been an Altman. I have no idea who she was, but do know she had a 2 sisters, Rhoda, Ada & brother John Altmans??? Rhoda lived in Plant City in 1936. Hicks was her last name then, heard she married a few times. She had her grandma/ mother?? living w/ her then. This old (at least 97-100 y.o) woman died within the next few years. I'm told she was a Cherokee indian, whom m. an Altman. i 'm told they never had problems w/ indians on their homestead cuz of her heritage. That's about the extent of my knowledge... except i was told she lived to be 109. Thanks to everyone for taking the time to read this. Tery Bell ----- Original Message ----- From: "suebod" <suebod@tampabay.rr.com> To: <FLHILLSB-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 10:16 AM Subject: Re: [FLHILLSB] Fernandez, Hiers, Jarrell, Llanes, Miller, Nelson, Noyes, Pu... > Yes, the unmarked pauper's grave at Limona is that of Mary Beard (Freeman) > Wells. Ouida told me the story of her death, wake, funeral and burial. > > "Jack" as he was always called, and Clara, married at her sister's home at > 409 W. 40th St, Savannah, GA. They were both living in Tampa, she had come > down to live with and help out her brother and sister-in-law, who had > opened a boarding house/hotel (the Hiers Hotel); one of the boarders was > Jack, and that's how they met. He took her to Walterboro to officially, > formally ask her father for her hand. Without pulling out my notebook, I > recall her father had about 23 children by his two wives, so he was not > hesitant to give his blessings. They went to Savannah and married at > Clara's sister's home. It was Depression era, times were awful, they moved > around trying to find work and help out other family members with crops and > illnesses, and Tampa-Walterboro visits were frequent. Several of Jack & > Clara's infants who did not survive are buried at Walterboro. > > You did not list their first child, John St. Elmo Wells, b. 10-8-1911 in > Savannah, GA and died 10-20-1912 in Savannah, GA, where he is buried. > Frankie was born in Statesboro, GA, John DESMOND in Savannah (he just > passed last year), and Ouida was born at Lewis' Tent City, St. Petersburg, > Pinellas Co, FL. The family counts eleven stillborns between Desmond and Ouida. > > We found two cemeteries in Walterboro where the Hiers family are buried but > the most notable is the cemetery just off the interstate and down the road > from the church. Clara's grandfather, Solomon Jefferson Hiers donated the > land and $ for both, so there is a little sign at the cemetery entrance > gate in thanks of his gift. Clara's father was George Harlie Hiers (spelled > Harlie, tho other family members w/that name spell it Harley). Row after > row of Hiers buried there.The museum that is now housed in what was the old > jail has a lot of history books for purchase and the volunteers are great. > We went to the library but, as fate would have it, they were in the process > of moving into a new building and all the genealogical/historical info was > packed & stored for six months. This has been a couple of years now, but at > that time, they did not have computers. > > One of Ouida's granddaughters named her son Jordan, after Mary Frances > Jordan, Clara's mother, wife of George Harlie. The book has her name as > Mary Elizabeth, but it was Mary Frances, as Clara named Frankie (Frances) > after her mother. I have a copy of Clara's Family Bible and some of the > family photos. > > I had a double connection in Walterboro, as my first husband has family > there also, the Chaplin family. I study that line for our children. I have > the book "Tombee, Portrait of a Cotton Planter," by Rosengarten, that > contains much of the Chaplin history and explains the St. Helena > Island-Walterboro connection, and also helped with Walterboro history on > both lines. Small world. > > What is your connection to the Hiers? Sue > > > At 04:08 AM 10/16/02 -0400, you wrote: > >John Washington Wells born 21 January 1886 in Hamilton Co., Florida son of > >Jacob Holden Wells and Mary Beard Freeman. Mary Beard Freeman Wells born 18 > >August 1848 died 3 September 1933. Perhaps, the paupers grave at Limona > >cemetery that you mention is that of Mary Beard Freeman Wells. A death > >certificate might reveal whether she was buried there. > > > >John W. Wells & Clara Vashti Hiers were married 10 November 1910 in Savannah, > >Georgia. They had Sarah Frances, John Desmond and June Ouida Wells. They made > >their home in Palm River, Hillsborough Co., Florida. > > > > > >============================== > >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > >go to: > >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Bon, Tampa Native I need some help in the Tampa area! My great grand parents (Fred and Marie Mary Noble) emigrated to Tampa, FL after three children were born, Katie Noble, Berlin Germany, August Noble, August 1885 and William (Will) Noble, November 22, 1886. After moving to FL one born Maynard Noble, 22, 1888 Tampa, FL. Fred and Mary were naturialize citizens in1920 US census in Tampa, so I have been told. I need all the infomation I can find on Fred and Mary Marie Noble. Thanks jim jegilbert@comcast.net ----- Original Message ----- From: <BONITABOW@aol.com> To: <FLHILLSB-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 12:23 AM Subject: Re: [FLHILLSB] William Yates 1805 - 1891 > Rosa Lee, do U have any information about the Rolling W Ranch that was on Hwy > 60 on the north side of the road, back when it was 2 lanes, just east of Hwy > 301? It was owned by Dewey and Ruth Wilbanks before they moved in2 town to > the NE corner of Neptune Avenue and Frankland Rd just north of H. B. Plant > Highschool. Mr Wilbanks was very involved in cattle, horses and i also > believe a hardware/tack/feed store that was on E. 7th Ave. in Ybor City area. > I do have some info and photos from the 50 and early 60's. Just thought > that i would let U know. > > Hope this email finds U safe and well, Bon, Tampa Native > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Yes, the unmarked pauper's grave at Limona is that of Mary Beard (Freeman) Wells. Ouida told me the story of her death, wake, funeral and burial. "Jack" as he was always called, and Clara, married at her sister's home at 409 W. 40th St, Savannah, GA. They were both living in Tampa, she had come down to live with and help out her brother and sister-in-law, who had opened a boarding house/hotel (the Hiers Hotel); one of the boarders was Jack, and that's how they met. He took her to Walterboro to officially, formally ask her father for her hand. Without pulling out my notebook, I recall her father had about 23 children by his two wives, so he was not hesitant to give his blessings. They went to Savannah and married at Clara's sister's home. It was Depression era, times were awful, they moved around trying to find work and help out other family members with crops and illnesses, and Tampa-Walterboro visits were frequent. Several of Jack & Clara's infants who did not survive are buried at Walterboro. You did not list their first child, John St. Elmo Wells, b. 10-8-1911 in Savannah, GA and died 10-20-1912 in Savannah, GA, where he is buried. Frankie was born in Statesboro, GA, John DESMOND in Savannah (he just passed last year), and Ouida was born at Lewis' Tent City, St. Petersburg, Pinellas Co, FL. The family counts eleven stillborns between Desmond and Ouida. We found two cemeteries in Walterboro where the Hiers family are buried but the most notable is the cemetery just off the interstate and down the road from the church. Clara's grandfather, Solomon Jefferson Hiers donated the land and $ for both, so there is a little sign at the cemetery entrance gate in thanks of his gift. Clara's father was George Harlie Hiers (spelled Harlie, tho other family members w/that name spell it Harley). Row after row of Hiers buried there.The museum that is now housed in what was the old jail has a lot of history books for purchase and the volunteers are great. We went to the library but, as fate would have it, they were in the process of moving into a new building and all the genealogical/historical info was packed & stored for six months. This has been a couple of years now, but at that time, they did not have computers. One of Ouida's granddaughters named her son Jordan, after Mary Frances Jordan, Clara's mother, wife of George Harlie. The book has her name as Mary Elizabeth, but it was Mary Frances, as Clara named Frankie (Frances) after her mother. I have a copy of Clara's Family Bible and some of the family photos. I had a double connection in Walterboro, as my first husband has family there also, the Chaplin family. I study that line for our children. I have the book "Tombee, Portrait of a Cotton Planter," by Rosengarten, that contains much of the Chaplin history and explains the St. Helena Island-Walterboro connection, and also helped with Walterboro history on both lines. Small world. What is your connection to the Hiers? Sue At 04:08 AM 10/16/02 -0400, you wrote: >John Washington Wells born 21 January 1886 in Hamilton Co., Florida son of >Jacob Holden Wells and Mary Beard Freeman. Mary Beard Freeman Wells born 18 >August 1848 died 3 September 1933. Perhaps, the paupers grave at Limona >cemetery that you mention is that of Mary Beard Freeman Wells. A death >certificate might reveal whether she was buried there. > >John W. Wells & Clara Vashti Hiers were married 10 November 1910 in Savannah, >Georgia. They had Sarah Frances, John Desmond and June Ouida Wells. They made >their home in Palm River, Hillsborough Co., Florida. > > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, >go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237