If I gave you a date do you still have it ? would make it a tad easier to find- LOL- also the white russian may not help with the sickness,but maybe after you have 2 or 3 you may not care as much- LOL Peggy ----- Original Message ----- From: <PJohn27974@aol.com> To: <FLHILLSB-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 6:17 AM Subject: Re: [FLHILLSB] McKAY > In a message dated 2/5/03 11:44:57 PM Eastern Standard Time, > PMcSwain@peoplepc.com writes: > > << FLHILLSB-L@rootsweb.com >> > Peggy, > Things not too good here. Have some kind of bug. Maybe a white russian > would kill it. Think I should give it a try? > I do need another obit. It's on Floyd Johnson. You did get me a date of > death but I never asked you for an obit. I'll send the date he died later. > The one you found was bn. in 1916 in St. Cloud. I'm trying to finish up the > Johnson side of the family and I will need to know Floyd's children and name > of his wife. Thanks again for your ready willingness to help. > Phyllis > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

In a message dated 2/5/03 11:44:57 PM Eastern Standard Time, PMcSwain@peoplepc.com writes: << FLHILLSB-L@rootsweb.com >> Peggy, Things not too good here. Have some kind of bug. Maybe a white russian would kill it. Think I should give it a try? I do need another obit. It's on Floyd Johnson. You did get me a date of death but I never asked you for an obit. I'll send the date he died later. The one you found was bn. in 1916 in St. Cloud. I'm trying to finish up the Johnson side of the family and I will need to know Floyd's children and name of his wife. Thanks again for your ready willingness to help. Phyllis

No extra request - just found copies of the obits in my notebook today and got worried that some poor sole was waiting for them and I may have gone brain dead and forgot to send them- Thank God I did not- LOL- I do try to help and sometimes even manage to have time to put my foot into my mouth- Peggy ----- Original Message ----- From: <PJohn27974@aol.com> To: <FLHILLSB-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 7:27 PM Subject: Fwd: [FLHILLSB] McKAY > > --part1_ae.38086ff7.2b73303f_boundary > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Peggy, I was the one that requested the obit on McKay but you have already > sent it to me. That was sometime ago. Is it possible that someone else has > also requested it? If so I'd be interested in knowing if they're related. > >From the looks of things you have really been busy lately. Thank goodness for > people like you. Just wish there were more as kind and sharing as you are. > Phyllis > > --part1_ae.38086ff7.2b73303f_boundary > Content-Type: message/rfc822 > Content-Disposition: inline > > Return-Path: <FLHILLSB-L-request@rootsweb.com> > Received: from rly-xm05.mx.aol.com (rly-xm05.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.106]) by air-xm05.mail.aol.com (v90_r2.5) with ESMTP id MAILINXM51-0205095031; Wed, 05 Feb 2003 09:50:31 -0500 > Received: from lists2.rootsweb.com (lists2.rootsweb.com [207.40.200.39]) by rly-xm05.mx.aol.com (v90_r1.1) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINXM510-0205094938; Wed, 05 Feb 2003 09:49:38 -0500 > Received: (from slist@localhost) > by lists2.rootsweb.com (8.12.4/8.12.4) id h15EmtFE010481; > Wed, 5 Feb 2003 07:48:55 -0700 > Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 07:48:55 -0700 > X-Original-Sender: PMcSwain@peoplepc.com Wed Feb 5 07:48:55 2003 > X-Sent: 5 Feb 2003 14:48:55 GMT > Message-ID: <002c01c2cd3e$6c9ead40$17f08141@oemcomputer> > From: "Peggy Mcswain" <PMcSwain@peoplepc.com> > Old-To: "Florida Hillsborough" <FLHILLSB-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 09:45:49 -0800 > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" > X-Priority: 3 > X-MSMail-Priority: Normal > X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 > X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 > Subject: [FLHILLSB] McKAY > Resent-Message-ID: <HMhcvD.A.hjC.XRSQ-@lists2.rootsweb.com> > To: FLHILLSB-L@rootsweb.com > Resent-From: FLHILLSB-L@rootsweb.com > Reply-To: FLHILLSB-L@rootsweb.com > X-Mailing-List: <FLHILLSB-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/1049 > X-Loop: FLHILLSB-L@rootsweb.com > Precedence: list > Resent-Sender: FLHILLSB-L-request@rootsweb.com > > Hello I have an obit for a Della Neal McGill,McKay and for the life of me- not sure who I was to have got this for > please e-mail me - Thanks > Peggy > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > --part1_ae.38086ff7.2b73303f_boundary-- > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

I was not sure- still had some copies of the obits here- Brain death is an ugly site- Sorry if my spelling is off also- had a dart game tonight and well let us day that I like white russians- spelling -I think on this- just wanted to make sure I had sent them out-still had copies of the obits - and worried about that- How are things going on your end of the world ? Peggy ----- Original Message ----- From: <PJohn27974@aol.com> To: <FLHILLSB-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 7:27 PM Subject: Fwd: [FLHILLSB] McKAY > > --part1_ae.38086ff7.2b73303f_boundary > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Peggy, I was the one that requested the obit on McKay but you have already > sent it to me. That was sometime ago. Is it possible that someone else has > also requested it? If so I'd be interested in knowing if they're related. > >From the looks of things you have really been busy lately. Thank goodness for > people like you. Just wish there were more as kind and sharing as you are. > Phyllis > > --part1_ae.38086ff7.2b73303f_boundary > Content-Type: message/rfc822 > Content-Disposition: inline > > Return-Path: <FLHILLSB-L-request@rootsweb.com> > Received: from rly-xm05.mx.aol.com (rly-xm05.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.106]) by air-xm05.mail.aol.com (v90_r2.5) with ESMTP id MAILINXM51-0205095031; Wed, 05 Feb 2003 09:50:31 -0500 > Received: from lists2.rootsweb.com (lists2.rootsweb.com [207.40.200.39]) by rly-xm05.mx.aol.com (v90_r1.1) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINXM510-0205094938; Wed, 05 Feb 2003 09:49:38 -0500 > Received: (from slist@localhost) > by lists2.rootsweb.com (8.12.4/8.12.4) id h15EmtFE010481; > Wed, 5 Feb 2003 07:48:55 -0700 > Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 07:48:55 -0700 > X-Original-Sender: PMcSwain@peoplepc.com Wed Feb 5 07:48:55 2003 > X-Sent: 5 Feb 2003 14:48:55 GMT > Message-ID: <002c01c2cd3e$6c9ead40$17f08141@oemcomputer> > From: "Peggy Mcswain" <PMcSwain@peoplepc.com> > Old-To: "Florida Hillsborough" <FLHILLSB-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 09:45:49 -0800 > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" > X-Priority: 3 > X-MSMail-Priority: Normal > X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 > X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 > Subject: [FLHILLSB] McKAY > Resent-Message-ID: <HMhcvD.A.hjC.XRSQ-@lists2.rootsweb.com> > To: FLHILLSB-L@rootsweb.com > Resent-From: FLHILLSB-L@rootsweb.com > Reply-To: FLHILLSB-L@rootsweb.com > X-Mailing-List: <FLHILLSB-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/1049 > X-Loop: FLHILLSB-L@rootsweb.com > Precedence: list > Resent-Sender: FLHILLSB-L-request@rootsweb.com > > Hello I have an obit for a Della Neal McGill,McKay and for the life of me- not sure who I was to have got this for > please e-mail me - Thanks > Peggy > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > --part1_ae.38086ff7.2b73303f_boundary-- > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

--part1_ae.38086ff7.2b73303f_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Peggy, I was the one that requested the obit on McKay but you have already sent it to me. That was sometime ago. Is it possible that someone else has also requested it? If so I'd be interested in knowing if they're related. >From the looks of things you have really been busy lately. Thank goodness for people like you. Just wish there were more as kind and sharing as you are. Phyllis --part1_ae.38086ff7.2b73303f_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: <FLHILLSB-L-request@rootsweb.com> Received: from rly-xm05.mx.aol.com (rly-xm05.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.106]) by air-xm05.mail.aol.com (v90_r2.5) with ESMTP id MAILINXM51-0205095031; Wed, 05 Feb 2003 09:50:31 -0500 Received: from lists2.rootsweb.com (lists2.rootsweb.com [207.40.200.39]) by rly-xm05.mx.aol.com (v90_r1.1) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINXM510-0205094938; Wed, 05 Feb 2003 09:49:38 -0500 Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists2.rootsweb.com (8.12.4/8.12.4) id h15EmtFE010481; Wed, 5 Feb 2003 07:48:55 -0700 Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 07:48:55 -0700 X-Original-Sender: PMcSwain@peoplepc.com Wed Feb 5 07:48:55 2003 X-Sent: 5 Feb 2003 14:48:55 GMT Message-ID: <002c01c2cd3e$6c9ead40$17f08141@oemcomputer> From: "Peggy Mcswain" <PMcSwain@peoplepc.com> Old-To: "Florida Hillsborough" <FLHILLSB-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 09:45:49 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Subject: [FLHILLSB] McKAY Resent-Message-ID: <HMhcvD.A.hjC.XRSQ-@lists2.rootsweb.com> To: FLHILLSB-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: FLHILLSB-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: FLHILLSB-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: <FLHILLSB-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/1049 X-Loop: FLHILLSB-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: FLHILLSB-L-request@rootsweb.com Hello I have an obit for a Della Neal McGill,McKay and for the life of me- not sure who I was to have got this for please e-mail me - Thanks Peggy ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 --part1_ae.38086ff7.2b73303f_boundary--

Hello I have an obit for a Della Neal McGill,McKay and for the life of me- not sure who I was to have got this for please e-mail me - Thanks Peggy

I wonder if someone could tell me who the parents were of Salathiel P. PARKER who married Sarah L. PRINGLE 9 Dec 1877 Hillsborough Co, Florida. Also, did they have any children? --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.449 / Virus Database: 251 - Release Date: 1/27/03

Found this oh so familiar. Deborah Byrd MISSING LINKS: A Magazine for Genealogists Vol. 8, No. 5, 3 February 2003 Circulation: 17,658 http://www.petuniapress.com/ (c) 2001-2003 Julia M. Case Editor-at-Fault: Julia M. Case juliecase@prodigy.net POINT OF VIEW: Bloodied but Un-Cowed By Beth Maltbie Uyehara BUYE@aol.com Apples usually fall down from the tree, not up--except during hurricanes, tornados, and earthquakes, when they whiz through the air every whichaway. The sun normally rises in the east and sets in the west, but who knows how long this will continue? I'm sure somebody's going to pass a law soon reversing the direction during Daylight Savings Time to benefit some little interest group or another. In our ancestors' day, death was a certainty, but, from what I read in the papers, Baby Boomers have declared a moratorium on the Grim Reaper while scientists work on an immortality pill (which we'll all have to order from Canada, because we won't be able to afford the prescription here in the U.S.). The one sure thing left--taxes--used to be universal, but it seems that, these days, there are an awful lot of people getting off the hook. Not you or me, of course. Just corporations and the very, very rich. Those of us left paying taxes are just a few no-account suckers who don't know the right people in Congress to call. In short, nothing is for certain these days except (drum roll ….) the Ten Laws of Genealogy. Here, at least, are a few things we can count on never to change. 1) If you have expended an enormous amount of time, money, and energy getting to a far-distant repository, it has been decreed that you will find exactly what you have been looking for all these years at the exact same moment that the closing bell rings in the repository on your final day in the area. That night, as you reluctantly fly home, the repository will burn down. 2) When your local genealogical society publishes its latest "acquisitions" list, the name of the long out-of-print book that you have searched for for 25 years will unaccountably be lopped off the bottom of the page. 3) Whereas, Mother Nature has decreed that a backed-up hard drive never crashes-- 4) --the one time you forget to back up your data, a freak electrical storm will cause a power surge in your state that will fry the wires leading into your home, and your computer will melt into a plastic puddle, taking your years of research with it. 5) In Ye Olde Family Bible, all the vital records will be entered in indelible India ink, except those concerning your own ancestor, whose existence will be noted in faint pencil in a quavering, undecipherable handwriting on the edge of Deuteronomy, Chapter 8. 6) The passenger list for the ship on which your immigrant ancestor arrived will have been used for kindling in 1898. 7) The parish records covering the decades for the ancestor you are researching were eaten by a cow.* 8) You will become fascinated by a far-flung collateral line approximately 20 minutes after the oldest living member of that line (unknown to you at the time) dies. 9) Of the thousands of fascinating old photos in your collection, the only ones that will have any identification at all will have notes such as "Mama's Great-Aunt 'Muffie'," and you won't have a clue as to whose writing it was and thus who "Mama" was, let alone Great-Aunt "Muffie." But you keep them anyway. 10) None of this will matter in the least, and like any good genealogist, you'll sail on into the past brimming with optimism that this time, things will be different. *Actually, "eaten by a cow" is the most frequent excuse for there being no extant parish records in any particular locale. The next most popular explanation is "moldy and mildewed beyond recognition." (Well, aren't we all.)

Found this site at www.mining.com. Intro to African American Genealogy, It provides good hints and helps for the beginning researcher. Deborah Byrd

Okay, Mea Culpa, I thought merely to pass on information that could be of concren, not to open a political debate on how well a person may be governing or governance. Several people have already left the list because of the debate. We have gone way beyond the intent of the original message. Please no more comments of the skill, aptitude, or common sense of the legislatures or the administrative branch. Now I do have a political question in relation to research. Has anyone ever found the records of party cacasus (sp) that could verify when a person may have been in the county and moved on? I am thinking particularly in the off census years and when they may not have purchased land or recorded deeds. Would these records be available to prove residency in the county? Researchers us the petit and grand jury lists to prove residence and voting records where they were kept. I have the record of an ancestor being elected to the county bank board of Hamilton county Florida which helps pinpoint his death, unless he was elected after he died, and knowing old Josiah Baisden from 1830's he might have been able to arrainge that. Deborah Byrd

Sydney, don't let illiterates run you off...please, just consider the source they came from...let them unsub if they don't like people fighting to save a library of such importance....were it not for the list most people would not know what is happening..... Again, ignore the ignorant!!!! Joan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sydney Cardner" <bcardner@tampabay.rr.com> To: <FLHILLSB-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 5:11 PM Subject: [FLHILLSB] Closing libraries and archives is serious. Politics should not be involved. > The last two emails have helped me make my decision to unsubscribe after I > post this. > http://www.dos.state.fl.us/dlis/barm/fsa.html > > That is probably the best online record of history of any state. Hours of > work have gone into it. It is now limiting its online hours, and it may > soon be gone. > > I have talked to my congressmen, who are, incidentally, all Republicans. > This should not be a Democrat/Republican issue. It really and truly has > nothing to do with the class size amendment. The true and honest figures on > that are not well known, and what ever they were would be split over 10 > years. > > In his inaugural address this year, he said he wanted to empty the > government buildings. That was not rhetoric, he meant it. The library is > there, the funds for it are minimal in terms of a state budget, the > archives are housed. Systems were recently added to keep the temperature > and surroundings in a way to better preserve the archives. > > FSU's president, Dr. Wetherell, has publicly stated they can NOT handle the > archives. Their funding is being cut drastically, as are all state > university budgets. If the library is allowed to be turned over to a > private company, there is not guarantee the items will be available like > they are now. If they are privatized, they may be lost to us forever as > genealogists. > > Washington State is closing theirs, but a recent letter from their Sec. of > State to me gave hope that maybe they can stop it. The state of Virginia is > starting along the same path. It will be a constant battle to save our > libraries. England and Canada are working with our country to try to stop > this trend of making libraries expendable. > > To the two who thought my post was political, perhaps you need to do some > real reading up on what is going on. Both of my Republican congressmen > here are really alarmed, and they do not like the fact that the Sec. of > State here has already met with the librarians. The legislature, after all, > must approve the budget. That is why we elected them. It is their job to > approve it. > > I choose not to be on a list with so many people who are so angry and ready > to jump on people. > > I was always taught that if you want to make a point with people, you > should do it nicely. Now that I have made mine, I am going to unsub. I > don't contribute that much to this list anyway. > > I do hope some of you can deal with your anger and face the reality of what > is going on. > > Sydney Cardner > Retired educator, good American, concerned citizen > > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

The last two emails have helped me make my decision to unsubscribe after I post this. http://www.dos.state.fl.us/dlis/barm/fsa.html That is probably the best online record of history of any state. Hours of work have gone into it. It is now limiting its online hours, and it may soon be gone. I have talked to my congressmen, who are, incidentally, all Republicans. This should not be a Democrat/Republican issue. It really and truly has nothing to do with the class size amendment. The true and honest figures on that are not well known, and what ever they were would be split over 10 years. In his inaugural address this year, he said he wanted to empty the government buildings. That was not rhetoric, he meant it. The library is there, the funds for it are minimal in terms of a state budget, the archives are housed. Systems were recently added to keep the temperature and surroundings in a way to better preserve the archives. FSU's president, Dr. Wetherell, has publicly stated they can NOT handle the archives. Their funding is being cut drastically, as are all state university budgets. If the library is allowed to be turned over to a private company, there is not guarantee the items will be available like they are now. If they are privatized, they may be lost to us forever as genealogists. Washington State is closing theirs, but a recent letter from their Sec. of State to me gave hope that maybe they can stop it. The state of Virginia is starting along the same path. It will be a constant battle to save our libraries. England and Canada are working with our country to try to stop this trend of making libraries expendable. To the two who thought my post was political, perhaps you need to do some real reading up on what is going on. Both of my Republican congressmen here are really alarmed, and they do not like the fact that the Sec. of State here has already met with the librarians. The legislature, after all, must approve the budget. That is why we elected them. It is their job to approve it. I choose not to be on a list with so many people who are so angry and ready to jump on people. I was always taught that if you want to make a point with people, you should do it nicely. Now that I have made mine, I am going to unsub. I don't contribute that much to this list anyway. I do hope some of you can deal with your anger and face the reality of what is going on. Sydney Cardner Retired educator, good American, concerned citizen

do you want? 1. higher taxes-2. smaller classrooms, no rapid traine?if you do not know how to vote, live wiyh it.

Nice to know this has turned into a political web site.......... Next thing you know. You all will be sending pop up ads with your e-mails. These type of issues should be handled through your private correspondence. Truth be know the Library would probably be better off at FSU......... Oh yea, Who pay's for FSU??? It still is a state school........ CE ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peggy Mcswain" <PMcSwain@peoplepc.com> To: <FLHILLSB-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 12:16 PM Subject: Re: [FLHILLSB] Florida State Archive and Library dismantling > e-mail addys for some of our Representatives - > Se. Bob Graham - D-Fl, - bob_graham@graham.senate.gov > Rep.Ginny Brown-Waite -R-Brooksfield,Fl. > www.house.gov/brown-waite/ > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sydney Cardner" <bcardner@tampabay.rr.com> > To: <FLHILLSB-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 8:15 PM > Subject: Re: [FLHILLSB] Florida State Archive and Library dismantling > > > > Hi, I assume you mean about closing the state library. It is very > serious, > > and the legislators appear to be rather alarmed that it has gone so far > when > > they don't meet until March. I have talked to several of them, and > written > > more. The best to contact are the legislators, as the governor appears to > > have his mind made up. There is 0 dollars for the library in the budget. > > The thought is that the governor wants to perhaps put the archives in the > > hands of a private company, as FSU does not want it without extra funding. > > Once in private hands, it may or may not be accessible to the public. > That > > would not be in our control then. > > Here is a post I made to another list yesterday. We are getting > nationwide > > attention for this, slowly, slowly. > > > > xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > I was very alarmed to read a section of the article below. So were my > > legislators! They got right on the phone to Tallahassee when I wrote > them. > > > > Here is an email I sent to my legislators. I am very concerned that the > > Secretary of State has already met with librarians on this, thus > indicating > > it might be a foregone conclusion. I missed this part of the article since > I > > read it hurriedly. We can use all the help we can get here. > > Two sites to reach your congressmen: > > http://www.leg.state.fl.us/ > > > > http://www.congress.org/congressorg/officials/state/?lvl=L&state=fl > > > > Here is email I sent to my congressmen. > > > xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > http://www.tallahassee.com/mld/democrat/news/local/5018483.htm > > > > How can this be? Here is a quote from the article above. We recently > > discussed this subject on the phone, and I mentioned that the librarians > > already think their job is ended July 1. Yet the legislature has not met. > > Excuse me, but there is something very wrong about this picture. > > > > Read this quote: > > ..."Kent Detzner, interim Secretary of State, met with library employees > to > > explain job counseling and transfer options and said, "We are going to > > assist them in every way we can." He has assured rural counties, 30 of > which > > depend on state grants for more than half their budget, that the grants > > program will continue. And while many details remain to be decided, he > > promised the state library collection and services will "remain available > to > > the citizens." > > "What the governor's budget has done is challenge us all to think of > better > > ways for government to operate," Detzner said. "This is just one of the > > areas where the governor had to make tough choices...."" > > > > How can they be explaining all this to employees when it has NOT happened > > yet. Or has it? > > > xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > Sydney Cardner > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <CMT261@aol.com> > > To: <FLHILLSB-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 10:48 PM > > Subject: Re: [FLHILLSB] Florida State Archive and Library dismantling > > > > > > > Is part of this missing? what is this about? > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, > > go to: > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=57 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

e-mail addys for some of our Representatives - Se. Bob Graham - D-Fl, - bob_graham@graham.senate.gov Rep.Ginny Brown-Waite -R-Brooksfield,Fl. www.house.gov/brown-waite/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sydney Cardner" <bcardner@tampabay.rr.com> To: <FLHILLSB-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 8:15 PM Subject: Re: [FLHILLSB] Florida State Archive and Library dismantling > Hi, I assume you mean about closing the state library. It is very serious, > and the legislators appear to be rather alarmed that it has gone so far when > they don't meet until March. I have talked to several of them, and written > more. The best to contact are the legislators, as the governor appears to > have his mind made up. There is 0 dollars for the library in the budget. > The thought is that the governor wants to perhaps put the archives in the > hands of a private company, as FSU does not want it without extra funding. > Once in private hands, it may or may not be accessible to the public. That > would not be in our control then. > Here is a post I made to another list yesterday. We are getting nationwide > attention for this, slowly, slowly. > > xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > I was very alarmed to read a section of the article below. So were my > legislators! They got right on the phone to Tallahassee when I wrote them. > > Here is an email I sent to my legislators. I am very concerned that the > Secretary of State has already met with librarians on this, thus indicating > it might be a foregone conclusion. I missed this part of the article since I > read it hurriedly. We can use all the help we can get here. > Two sites to reach your congressmen: > http://www.leg.state.fl.us/ > > http://www.congress.org/congressorg/officials/state/?lvl=L&state=fl > > Here is email I sent to my congressmen. > xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > http://www.tallahassee.com/mld/democrat/news/local/5018483.htm > > How can this be? Here is a quote from the article above. We recently > discussed this subject on the phone, and I mentioned that the librarians > already think their job is ended July 1. Yet the legislature has not met. > Excuse me, but there is something very wrong about this picture. > > Read this quote: > ..."Kent Detzner, interim Secretary of State, met with library employees to > explain job counseling and transfer options and said, "We are going to > assist them in every way we can." He has assured rural counties, 30 of which > depend on state grants for more than half their budget, that the grants > program will continue. And while many details remain to be decided, he > promised the state library collection and services will "remain available to > the citizens." > "What the governor's budget has done is challenge us all to think of better > ways for government to operate," Detzner said. "This is just one of the > areas where the governor had to make tough choices...."" > > How can they be explaining all this to employees when it has NOT happened > yet. Or has it? > xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Sydney Cardner > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <CMT261@aol.com> > To: <FLHILLSB-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 10:48 PM > Subject: Re: [FLHILLSB] Florida State Archive and Library dismantling > > > > Is part of this missing? what is this about? > > > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=57 > > > > > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > >

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Shall we Thank our Govenor for this- funds are being cut right and left in Florida- from Education as well- so much for beter schools and education when things are cut to the bone- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sydney Cardner" <bcardner@tampabay.rr.com> To: <FLHILLSB-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 8:15 PM Subject: Re: [FLHILLSB] Florida State Archive and Library dismantling > Hi, I assume you mean about closing the state library. It is very serious, > and the legislators appear to be rather alarmed that it has gone so far when > they don't meet until March. I have talked to several of them, and written > more. The best to contact are the legislators, as the governor appears to > have his mind made up. There is 0 dollars for the library in the budget. > The thought is that the governor wants to perhaps put the archives in the > hands of a private company, as FSU does not want it without extra funding. > Once in private hands, it may or may not be accessible to the public. That > would not be in our control then. > Here is a post I made to another list yesterday. We are getting nationwide > attention for this, slowly, slowly. > > xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > I was very alarmed to read a section of the article below. So were my > legislators! They got right on the phone to Tallahassee when I wrote them. > > Here is an email I sent to my legislators. I am very concerned that the > Secretary of State has already met with librarians on this, thus indicating > it might be a foregone conclusion. I missed this part of the article since I > read it hurriedly. We can use all the help we can get here. > Two sites to reach your congressmen: > http://www.leg.state.fl.us/ > > http://www.congress.org/congressorg/officials/state/?lvl=L&state=fl > > Here is email I sent to my congressmen. > xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > http://www.tallahassee.com/mld/democrat/news/local/5018483.htm > > How can this be? Here is a quote from the article above. We recently > discussed this subject on the phone, and I mentioned that the librarians > already think their job is ended July 1. Yet the legislature has not met. > Excuse me, but there is something very wrong about this picture. > > Read this quote: > ..."Kent Detzner, interim Secretary of State, met with library employees to > explain job counseling and transfer options and said, "We are going to > assist them in every way we can." He has assured rural counties, 30 of which > depend on state grants for more than half their budget, that the grants > program will continue. And while many details remain to be decided, he > promised the state library collection and services will "remain available to > the citizens." > "What the governor's budget has done is challenge us all to think of better > ways for government to operate," Detzner said. "This is just one of the > areas where the governor had to make tough choices...."" > > How can they be explaining all this to employees when it has NOT happened > yet. Or has it? > xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Sydney Cardner > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <CMT261@aol.com> > To: <FLHILLSB-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 10:48 PM > Subject: Re: [FLHILLSB] Florida State Archive and Library dismantling > > > > Is part of this missing? what is this about? > > > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=57 > > > > > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > >

Hi, I assume you mean about closing the state library. It is very serious, and the legislators appear to be rather alarmed that it has gone so far when they don't meet until March. I have talked to several of them, and written more. The best to contact are the legislators, as the governor appears to have his mind made up. There is 0 dollars for the library in the budget. The thought is that the governor wants to perhaps put the archives in the hands of a private company, as FSU does not want it without extra funding. Once in private hands, it may or may not be accessible to the public. That would not be in our control then. Here is a post I made to another list yesterday. We are getting nationwide attention for this, slowly, slowly. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx I was very alarmed to read a section of the article below. So were my legislators! They got right on the phone to Tallahassee when I wrote them. Here is an email I sent to my legislators. I am very concerned that the Secretary of State has already met with librarians on this, thus indicating it might be a foregone conclusion. I missed this part of the article since I read it hurriedly. We can use all the help we can get here. Two sites to reach your congressmen: http://www.leg.state.fl.us/ http://www.congress.org/congressorg/officials/state/?lvl=L&state=fl Here is email I sent to my congressmen. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://www.tallahassee.com/mld/democrat/news/local/5018483.htm How can this be? Here is a quote from the article above. We recently discussed this subject on the phone, and I mentioned that the librarians already think their job is ended July 1. Yet the legislature has not met. Excuse me, but there is something very wrong about this picture. Read this quote: ..."Kent Detzner, interim Secretary of State, met with library employees to explain job counseling and transfer options and said, "We are going to assist them in every way we can." He has assured rural counties, 30 of which depend on state grants for more than half their budget, that the grants program will continue. And while many details remain to be decided, he promised the state library collection and services will "remain available to the citizens." "What the governor's budget has done is challenge us all to think of better ways for government to operate," Detzner said. "This is just one of the areas where the governor had to make tough choices...."" How can they be explaining all this to employees when it has NOT happened yet. Or has it? xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sydney Cardner ----- Original Message ----- From: <CMT261@aol.com> To: <FLHILLSB-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 10:48 PM Subject: Re: [FLHILLSB] Florida State Archive and Library dismantling > Is part of this missing? what is this about? > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=57 > >

Is part of this missing? what is this about?

I have been requested to forward this. Deborah Byrd List Owner On Sun, 02 Feb 2003, Nancy Miller wrote: TO ALL that this Concerns, Which should be everyone Please WRITE to your House of Representatives and Senators Concerning this matter. Help us to put a Stop to the Governors blatant attempt to dismantle everything that we all have worked so hard to accomplish. Addresses for the House of Representatives and Senators can be found at  http://www.leg.state.fl.us/ .    Please read the forwarded message concerning this matter. It contains a lot of info that will help you to understand what Jeb Bush  is doing. Also make sure you write to all of the Local Newspapers concerning this. So many Folks out there still do not have Computers and depend on the local Newspapers to give this information to them. But if you live in a small community or Controlled Community These folks will not even know what happened until they pick up the phone and try calling the State Library , Archives or The Division of Historical Resources for help. Let this be known as well, if you work for the State of Florida, you CAN NOT write a letter against this matter as a Representative of your Department, BUT YOU CAN write aa letter as a Private Citizen. So let's get out the a put a stop this and show the Governor that we are NOT going to stand for this. Please pass this along to all of the list that you can think of. Let's let  ALL the people know What our Governor is doing so they to can help. Our Libraries Stand for knowledge and Knowledge is power, Our Archives stand for what we represent "Historical Resources and Documented Information". If this is the case then the Governor need's to understand that that we need our State Library and Historical Archives. Leave the Division of Historical Resources, The Archives and the State Library ALONE.  ONE PERSON CAN NOT DO THIS ALONE!  WE HAVE TO ACT AS A LARGE GROUP TO MAKE THE GOVERNOR UNDERSTAND! Sincerely, Nancy Miller Sumter County Gen Web Project, State of Florida 1-352-568-7488