This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: gennut35211 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.florida.counties.hillsborough/3069.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: TY so much Debra Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: SuGenClayFL Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.florida.counties.hillsborough/3069.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Tampa Tribune, The (FL) - February 4, 1992 Deceased Name: WOMACK HARRISON WOMACK HARRISON, 62, of Tampa died Jan. 23 at Tampa General Hospital. A native of Alabama, he was a longtime resident of the Tampa Bay area. He was a retired U.S. Navy veteran. Dessesseau and Dessasau Funeral Home. Tampa Tribune, The (FL) Date: February 4, 1992 Edition: METROPOLITAN Page: 2 Record Number: 115 Copyright (c) 1992 The Tribune Co. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

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Diffenbaugh, Peter D.; 68; 1953 Publisher: Tampa Tribune (microfilm) Date: 1953 3 08 Page: Deaths-p.A8; F.N.-p.A8 Thanks, Roy <>< [email protected]

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Zelekis Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.florida.counties.hillsborough/3068/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Tampa Tribune, 12 June 2005 MADSEN, Henry E., 85, of Tampa, passed away June 4, 2005. Mr. Madsen had lived in Tampa for more than 50 years and was a retired advertising executive. His many professional honors included serving as president of sales and marketing executives of Tampa, receiving that organization's President's Award for Outstanding Achievement, being named "Ad Man of the Year" by the Tampa Advertising Club, and receiving the American Advertising Federation's Silver Medal Award. He was a Kiwanian, and he served as president of the Kiwanis Club of Midtown Tampa and as lieutenant governer of the Florida District of Kiwanis. Mr. Madsen was a graduate of the University of MN where he was a member of Sigma Delta Chi professional journalism fraternity. Mr. Madsen is survived by his devoted wife of 61 years, Carmen; by 4 children, Karen Madsen of Miami, Michael Madsen and wife Cheryl of Tallahasse, Tina Gowans and husband Tom of Tampa and Barbara Schafer and husband Mark of Thousand Oaks CA; by g! randchildren, Jeff Madsen, Greg Madsen, and Heather Lockhart; and by 5 great-grandchildren, Jake, Kharmin, Layla, Avery and Ross. The family will hold a private memorial at a later date. In lieu of flowers, donations may be made to the American Parkinson Disease Association. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Here is the reply to your email reference question: You may e-mail us the complete citations from the TRAILS index, and we will attempt to locate and then send you the notices as e-mail attachments. When you do a search in TRAILS, you need to click on the name from the results list in order to view the entire citation (newspaper issue date, page number, etc.). Use the link below to view your related messages or submit a follow-up question: http://www.askalibrarian.org/FLPL2900/vrleb_question_patron.asp?submit_event=onPatronView&virtual_desk_id=29&question_id=103155 ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

I would appreciate a look-up for: Giglio, John 1909 Publication The Tampa Tribune Date 1909 6 03 Page P. 10 Militello, Paolo 79, 1978 Publication Tampa Tribune (microfilm) Date 1978 3 13 (and 1978 3 14 pg. 7) Page Funeral Notice - D7 Pg. D7, Hillsborough Thank you, MR ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Dor2Tyme Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.florida.counties.hillsborough/1819.3.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: My mistake. :{ While he DID register for the draft according to the 1930 census you mentioned he did not serve in the military so requesting military recods should not produce anything. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Dor2Tyme Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.florida.counties.hillsborough/1819.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Have you tried getting cioes of his military record? Maybe they gave him a headstine or burial? Name: Charles Wesley Lucia City: Detroit County: Wayne State: Michigan Birthplace: Michigan;United States of America Birth Date: 10 Aug 1892 Race: Caucasian (White) Roll: 2024030 see attachment for his card Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Dor2Tyme Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.florida.counties.hillsborough/1819.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Have you tried getting cioes of his military record? Maybe they gave him a headstine or burial? Name: Charles Wesley Lucia City: Detroit County: Wayne State: Michigan Birthplace: Michigan;United States of America Birth Date: 10 Aug 1892 Race: Caucasian (White) Roll: 2024030 see attachment for his card Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

You may e-mail us the complete citations from the TRAILS index, and we will attempt to locate and then send you the notices as e-mail attachments. When you do a search in TRAILS, you need to click on the name from the results list in order to view the entire citation (newspaper issue date, page number, etc.). Use the link below to view your related messages or submit a follow-up question: http://www.askalibrarian.org/FLPL2900/vrleb_question_patron.asp?submit_event=onPatronView&virtual_desk_id=29&question_id=103155 Is there an online source for "ancient" obituaries from the Tribune? By ancient I mean those from the 1940s and 1950s. I suppose local libraries might have them on film? Thanks! W. Smith ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

Is there an online source for "ancient" obituaries from the Tribune? By ancient I mean those from the 1940s and 1950s. I suppose local libraries might have them on film? Thanks! W. Smith

Jack, A few states still have the law on the books! http://www.unmarried.org/common.html STATES THAT RECOGNIZE COMMON LAW MARRIAGE: Only a few states recognize common law marriages: Alabama Colorado Georgia (if created before 1/1/97) Idaho (if created before 1/1/96) Iowa Kansas Montana New Hampshire (for inheritance purposes only) Ohio (if created before 10/10/91) Oklahoma (possibly only if created before 11/1/98. Oklahoma's laws and court decisions may be in conflict about whether common law marriages formed in that state after 11/1/98 will be recognized.) Pennsylvania (if created before 1/1/05) Rhode Island South Carolina Texas Utah Washington, D.C. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jack Hudson" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>; "Jack Hudson and family" <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 9:48 PM Subject: Re: [FLHILLSB] Question (Bass Divorce) > Jim > > A stray thought: RE: common law marriages : in college, I took a > course in Business Law that was as it turned out, taught by a practicing > lawyer, sometimes in the class, he would interject some interesting > thoughts: as in one day when he commented that if any of us males in the > class ever had a female " in the mood" had convinced her to go to a > motel, and to spend the night together, to be careful about the rules > for "common Law" marriages in what ever state the two of you were in at > the time, and how you registered at the motel, otherwise, he > cautioned that in the morning, technically you might actually be > married to the woman. > Jack Hudson Albuquerque, NM > > > Jim wrote: >> In Alabama Yes! >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 9:33 PM >> Subject: Re: [FLHILLSB] Question (Bass Divorce) >> >> >> >>> would common law have to get a divorce ? >>> ----- >>> Quite possibly no marriage record. Still in the era of Common-Law >>> Marriage. If a couple presented themselves to the community for a period >>> of >>> time as man and wife, or a couple, living together, etc., it was >>> considered >>> Common-Law. You wouldn't find a record unless someone had a Family Bible >>> and >>> the couple just picked a date, or did something at home. >>> >>>> Sometimes after Sunday services, the preacher and wife came to dinner >>>> and >>>> after dinner, did a "blessing of the union." That was it. No license >>>> and >>>> no report to the clerk. >>>> >>>> I know a 25-yr old male raised from his drunken sleeping bed by the >>>> point >>>> of a rifle barrell, brought to the livingroom of a certain home of a >>>> 14-yr >>>> old girl, 5 months pregnant, and married right then and there by the >>>> girl's mother, with girl and guy's hands on the Family Bible and dad's >>>> shotgun in the middle of the guy's back. They had "connections" and at >>>> some time, it was legalized, but the date remained the true one. >>>> >>>> Common Law was eliminated in Fla in the 1960s but many rural people >>>> still >>>> held to that way, as I personally has to marry many folks for varying >>>> legal reasons, tho they'd been "married" for 50+ years or so. >>>> >>>> Sue >>>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

through ancestry it is- no where else that I am aware of- Peggy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jack Hudson" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 11:10 PM Subject: Re: [FLHILLSB] FLHILLSB] Question (Bass Divorce) > Sue > the "Fl. index for marriages " you referred to, is that available on-line? > Thanks > Jack > Hudson > > > > [email protected] wrote: >> I have checked out the Fl. index for marriages - entire state- this is >> why I >> was wondering if the fellow was in the service -where might the marriage >> have been recorded- ? same thing for Betty Heathcoe Ussery- one would >> think >> that the USSERY side of the line would know- I was told once that he ( >> Lamar ) was never married to anyone but the woman he is or was currently >> married to - and then it was said that the whole entire family thought >> she >> had known she was sick when she married him and should have been ashamed >> of >> herself- she died with cancer- she found she had cancer about the same >> time >> she found she was going to have a baby,refused treatment to save the >> child >> and they both ended up dead- but I was told they thought she already knew >> and married the dude anyway- DUH- and then they tried to tell me they did >> not know of a Betty- >> Now what did all this sound like to you guys- but yet no one seems to >> know >> where they married- >> PS- everyone is now gone- no one left to ask that will tell me or might >> know- >> >> >> >>> If the grandparents were still alive, the newly-divorced or widowed >>> fella >>> took the child/children home to mama or a married sister, to help him >>> raise the kids. Don't know if that helps or not. >>> Knowing you, Peggy, pretty sure you checked the surrounding counties >>> for >>> a possible marriage certificate. My own grandparents left their county >>> home, parents' homes, etc., to go to a next-door county and get married >>> because their favorite pastor had moved to a church in the next county >>> and >>> they wanted him to marry them. Took me years to find out where and more >>> to >>> find out why in the world they did that. >>> Sue >>> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Sue the "Fl. index for marriages " you referred to, is that available on-line? Thanks Jack Hudson [email protected] wrote: > I have checked out the Fl. index for marriages - entire state- this is why I > was wondering if the fellow was in the service -where might the marriage > have been recorded- ? same thing for Betty Heathcoe Ussery- one would think > that the USSERY side of the line would know- I was told once that he ( > Lamar ) was never married to anyone but the woman he is or was currently > married to - and then it was said that the whole entire family thought she > had known she was sick when she married him and should have been ashamed of > herself- she died with cancer- she found she had cancer about the same time > she found she was going to have a baby,refused treatment to save the child > and they both ended up dead- but I was told they thought she already knew > and married the dude anyway- DUH- and then they tried to tell me they did > not know of a Betty- > Now what did all this sound like to you guys- but yet no one seems to know > where they married- > PS- everyone is now gone- no one left to ask that will tell me or might > know- > > > >> If the grandparents were still alive, the newly-divorced or widowed fella >> took the child/children home to mama or a married sister, to help him >> raise the kids. Don't know if that helps or not. >> Knowing you, Peggy, pretty sure you checked the surrounding counties for >> a possible marriage certificate. My own grandparents left their county >> home, parents' homes, etc., to go to a next-door county and get married >> because their favorite pastor had moved to a church in the next county and >> they wanted him to marry them. Took me years to find out where and more to >> find out why in the world they did that. >> Sue >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Jim A stray thought: RE: common law marriages : in college, I took a course in Business Law that was as it turned out, taught by a practicing lawyer, sometimes in the class, he would interject some interesting thoughts: as in one day when he commented that if any of us males in the class ever had a female " in the mood" had convinced her to go to a motel, and to spend the night together, to be careful about the rules for "common Law" marriages in what ever state the two of you were in at the time, and how you registered at the motel, otherwise, he cautioned that in the morning, technically you might actually be married to the woman. Jack Hudson Albuquerque, NM Jim wrote: > In Alabama Yes! > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 9:33 PM > Subject: Re: [FLHILLSB] Question (Bass Divorce) > > > >> would common law have to get a divorce ? >> ----- >> Quite possibly no marriage record. Still in the era of Common-Law >> Marriage. If a couple presented themselves to the community for a period >> of >> time as man and wife, or a couple, living together, etc., it was >> considered >> Common-Law. You wouldn't find a record unless someone had a Family Bible >> and >> the couple just picked a date, or did something at home. >> >>> Sometimes after Sunday services, the preacher and wife came to dinner and >>> after dinner, did a "blessing of the union." That was it. No license and >>> no report to the clerk. >>> >>> I know a 25-yr old male raised from his drunken sleeping bed by the point >>> of a rifle barrell, brought to the livingroom of a certain home of a >>> 14-yr >>> old girl, 5 months pregnant, and married right then and there by the >>> girl's mother, with girl and guy's hands on the Family Bible and dad's >>> shotgun in the middle of the guy's back. They had "connections" and at >>> some time, it was legalized, but the date remained the true one. >>> >>> Common Law was eliminated in Fla in the 1960s but many rural people still >>> held to that way, as I personally has to marry many folks for varying >>> legal reasons, tho they'd been "married" for 50+ years or so. >>> >>> Sue >>> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

In Alabama Yes! ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 9:33 PM Subject: Re: [FLHILLSB] Question (Bass Divorce) > would common law have to get a divorce ? > ----- > Quite possibly no marriage record. Still in the era of Common-Law > Marriage. If a couple presented themselves to the community for a period > of > time as man and wife, or a couple, living together, etc., it was > considered > Common-Law. You wouldn't find a record unless someone had a Family Bible > and > the couple just picked a date, or did something at home. >> >> Sometimes after Sunday services, the preacher and wife came to dinner and >> after dinner, did a "blessing of the union." That was it. No license and >> no report to the clerk. >> >> I know a 25-yr old male raised from his drunken sleeping bed by the point >> of a rifle barrell, brought to the livingroom of a certain home of a >> 14-yr >> old girl, 5 months pregnant, and married right then and there by the >> girl's mother, with girl and guy's hands on the Family Bible and dad's >> shotgun in the middle of the guy's back. They had "connections" and at >> some time, it was legalized, but the date remained the true one. >> >> Common Law was eliminated in Fla in the 1960s but many rural people still >> held to that way, as I personally has to marry many folks for varying >> legal reasons, tho they'd been "married" for 50+ years or so. >> >> Sue > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

just said closed- guess it will remain a mystery- my entire Heathcoe line is a mystery- one would think they had something to hide- I think they all came here from Pluto and were dumped here without an instruction book- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sue Bodishbaugh" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 6:58 PM Subject: [FLHILLSB] QUESTION > "Closed" or "sealed"? It may be that a family member can apply to have > that unsealed. I agree with you. It does sound they knew she was sick or > dying. Took some real string pulling to get that done quickly back then. > Someone had friends in the judicial system.

I have checked out the Fl. index for marriages - entire state- this is why I was wondering if the fellow was in the service -where might the marriage have been recorded- ? same thing for Betty Heathcoe Ussery- one would think that the USSERY side of the line would know- I was told once that he ( Lamar ) was never married to anyone but the woman he is or was currently married to - and then it was said that the whole entire family thought she had known she was sick when she married him and should have been ashamed of herself- she died with cancer- she found she had cancer about the same time she found she was going to have a baby,refused treatment to save the child and they both ended up dead- but I was told they thought she already knew and married the dude anyway- DUH- and then they tried to tell me they did not know of a Betty- Now what did all this sound like to you guys- but yet no one seems to know where they married- PS- everyone is now gone- no one left to ask that will tell me or might know- > If the grandparents were still alive, the newly-divorced or widowed fella > took the child/children home to mama or a married sister, to help him > raise the kids. Don't know if that helps or not. > Knowing you, Peggy, pretty sure you checked the surrounding counties for > a possible marriage certificate. My own grandparents left their county > home, parents' homes, etc., to go to a next-door county and get married > because their favorite pastor had moved to a church in the next county and > they wanted him to marry them. Took me years to find out where and more to > find out why in the world they did that. > Sue

U do not have to be legally married to be in a common law marriage: Common-law marriage (or common law marriage), sometimes called informal marriage or marriage by habit and repute is, historically, a form of interpersonal status in which a man and a woman are legally married. The term is often mistakenly understood to indicate an interpersonal relationship that is not recognized in law. In fact, a common law marriage is just as legally binding as a statutory or ceremonial marriage in some jurisdictions — it is just formed differently. ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.