--part1_f1d7fe04.2507a3fb_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit PS - Sarah Jane (Sallie Ann) Moore Alderman McElvy began school in 1858. --part1_f1d7fe04.2507a3fb_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-path: LIZGERLITS@aol.com From: LIZGERLITS@aol.com Full-name: LIZGERLITS Message-ID: <2755147b.2507a29e@aol.com> Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 07:29:34 EDT Subject: Re: terms "Normals" and "School for Normals" To: BettyMaeS@aol.com CC: FLORIDA-L@rootsweb.com, FLGADSDE-L@rootsweb.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 21 Hi Betty, Although I am not researching the early Florida education system, I do have a personal interested in it. My g-g-grandmother, Elizabeth J. King Moore Speer, was a school teacher at the Concord School in Concord, Gadsden Co, FL about 1860. My g-grandmother, Sarah Jane (Sallie Ann) Moore Alderman McElvy, attended the Shelfer School located about two miles southeast of Havana, Gadsden Co, FL on State Road 153. My g-g-grandfather, Abner Chester, was a Trustee at Scotts Mill and his son, Samuel Chesrer, was a school teacher there. I don't know where Scotts Mill is, but I assume it was in or near Concord where they lived. My aunt, Ina Rosemond Chester Watson, took special courses in Quincy, Gadsden Co, FL to obtain her teacher's certificate, but she taught in Woodville, Wakulla Co, FL. It was about 1920 when she took the courses. The above are only a few of many who were involved in the Florida education systen and most of my ancestors and family attended the Gadsden Co, FL schools. I attended Havana School in Havana, Gadsden Co, FL between 1946-1958. I am especiall interested in the Concord School in Concord, Gadsden Co, FL where my mother, Jane R. Chester Yon attended between the years of 1924-1934. I hope I'm not imposing, but any information that you can provide me with regarding these people and/or the Florida education system would be greatly appreciated. I will be happy to pay for any costs involved. Please forgive me for being long-winded. Genealogy causes that. Thanks! Liz Gerlits Palm Bay, FL (formerly of Havana, Gadsden Co, FL) In a message dated 9/7/99 8:29:05 PM Eastern Daylight Time, BettyMaeS@aol.com writes: << Subj: terms "Normals" and "School for Normals" Date: 9/7/99 8:29:05 PM Eastern Daylight Time From: BettyMaeS@aol.com To: FLORIDA-L@rootsweb.com I'm doing some personal follow-up research on the early Florida education system (pre-Buckman Act of 1905). I come across the terms "Normals" and "School for Normals" but yet I can't find "Normal" defined. A Normal seems to be a black (or non-white) person who was not deaf, dumb or blind. Have you ever come across this term or a definition? Help Betty ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: <FLORIDA-L-request@rootsweb.com> Received: from rly-yc02.mx.aol.com (rly-yc02.mail.aol.com [172.18.149.34]) by air-yc01.mail.aol.com (v60.28) with ESMTP; Tue, 07 Sep 1999 20:29

Hi Betty, Although I am not researching the early Florida education system, I do have a personal interested in it. My g-g-grandmother, Elizabeth J. King Moore Speer, was a school teacher at the Concord School in Concord, Gadsden Co, FL about 1860. My g-grandmother, Sarah Jane (Sallie Ann) Moore Alderman McElvy, attended the Shelfer School located about two miles southeast of Havana, Gadsden Co, FL on State Road 153. My g-g-grandfather, Abner Chester, was a Trustee at Scotts Mill and his son, Samuel Chesrer, was a school teacher there. I don't know where Scotts Mill is, but I assume it was in or near Concord where they lived. My aunt, Ina Rosemond Chester Watson, took special courses in Quincy, Gadsden Co, FL to obtain her teacher's certificate, but she taught in Woodville, Wakulla Co, FL. It was about 1920 when she took the courses. The above are only a few of many who were involved in the Florida education systen and most of my ancestors and family attended the Gadsden Co, FL schools. I attended Havana School in Havana, Gadsden Co, FL between 1946-1958. I am especiall interested in the Concord School in Concord, Gadsden Co, FL where my mother, Jane R. Chester Yon attended between the years of 1924-1934. I hope I'm not imposing, but any information that you can provide me with regarding these people and/or the Florida education system would be greatly appreciated. I will be happy to pay for any costs involved. Please forgive me for being long-winded. Genealogy causes that. Thanks! Liz Gerlits Palm Bay, FL (formerly of Havana, Gadsden Co, FL) In a message dated 9/7/99 8:29:05 PM Eastern Daylight Time, BettyMaeS@aol.com writes: << Subj: terms "Normals" and "School for Normals" Date: 9/7/99 8:29:05 PM Eastern Daylight Time From: BettyMaeS@aol.com To: FLORIDA-L@rootsweb.com I'm doing some personal follow-up research on the early Florida education system (pre-Buckman Act of 1905). I come across the terms "Normals" and "School for Normals" but yet I can't find "Normal" defined. A Normal seems to be a black (or non-white) person who was not deaf, dumb or blind. Have you ever come across this term or a definition? Help Betty ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: <FLORIDA-L-request@rootsweb.com> Received: from rly-yc02.mx.aol.com (rly-yc02.mail.aol.com [172.18.149.34]) by air-yc01.mail.aol.com (v60.28) with ESMTP; Tue, 07 Sep 1999 20:29:05 -0400 Received: from bl-14.rootsweb.com (bl-14.rootsweb.com [204.212.38.30]) by rly-yc02.mx.aol.com (v60.28) with ESMTP; Tue, 07 Sep 1999 20:29:00 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by bl-14.rootsweb.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA16548; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 17:27:38 -0700 (PDT) Resent-Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 17:27:38 -0700 (PDT) From: BettyMaeS@aol.com Message-ID: <e493c8eb.25070713@aol.com> Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 20:25:55 EDT Subject: terms "Normals" and "School for Normals" Old-To: FLORIDA-L@rootsweb.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 Resent-Message-ID: <Vomsw.A.CCE.51a13@bl-14.rootsweb.com> To: FLORIDA-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: FLORIDA-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: <FLORIDA-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/4123 X-Loop: FLORIDA-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: FLORIDA-L-request@rootsweb.com >>

I'm doing some personal follow-up research on the early Florida education system (pre-Buckman Act of 1905). I come across the terms "Normals" and "School for Normals" but yet I can't find "Normal" defined. A Normal seems to be a black (or non-white) person who was not deaf, dumb or blind. Have you ever come across this term or a definition? Help Betty

I have lost touch with Mary Jo Kidwell, who's e-mail address was mailto:MaryJo.hanna@worldnet.att.net. We were working on the GOODSON family in Gadsden County. I have some information for her but the internet Postmaster tells me it is not deliverable. If anyone knows Mary Jo or how to get in touch with her please ask her to contact me. Ivan Richardson BartowRich@msn.com

Caldwell Family. Samuel Caldwell born in 1818 Died in 1863. Gadsden Co. His father William T. Died in 1845. Children of Samuel Caldwell and Caroline Amelia Cash (1820-1899, Bogan Caldwell born 1843

Can someone help this great friend of mine...Thanks Betty Reply to: bbuchman@email.msn.com (bbuchman) This is a possibility that I will be in Quincy in a few weeks. Where is a good place to find records of the Samuel Barron Stephens family? He was a colonel in the Civil War. His daughter Mary Ann married George Zeigler. I have all the census records. I was hoping to find something in a local library that I wouldn't be able to find in this county. Sincerely, Beryle

Hey Betty, Please place this announment on the Jackson County web-site.. Also, who do I email to, place it on surrounding counties of Fla.? MESSER FAMILY AND FREINDS REUNION: All descendents of Bryant and Martha Messer: Their children were: Hardy, Margaret, William F., Sarah, David, Harvey, George W., Charles, Zachariah T., Ferney S., Council, Pierce F., Lewis C., Louisa, John: DATE: Saturday, October 16, 1999 TIME: 10 a.m. PLACE: Dellwood Community Center, Blue Springs Hwy., Dellwood, Jackson County, Fla.. Please bring covered dish / dessert and drinks.. Plastics, utensils, cups and ice will be provided.. Bring Photographs and stories of present and / or long ago.. We will honor Bryant Edward 'B.E.' Messer, Jr. For futher information please contact: Martha M. Burke 850/526-2978 Betty Jo M. Hegarty 941/732-9267 or email, fam7ger@aol.com Thank you, Betty Jo

Subj: Re: Gadsden County cemetery records. Date: 8/16/99 8:08:52 PM Eastern Daylight Time From: JBraddock1@aol.com I have a question for you, this one to do with my wife's genealogy: In 1832, Lewis Humbert, one of her relatives, wrote a letter from Quincey, Gadsden County, FL where he was teaching school. Have you seen his name in your local historical records. Thanks, Jerry Braddock Charleston, SC

Hello List, My name is Deretha Elizabeth (Liz) Yon Gerlits and I was born and raised in Havana, Gadsden Co, FL. I was born in 1941 and went to the one and only school in Havana (at the time) between the years of 1947 and 1958. I am researching my family history and hope to write a book on it, also. My mother's family settled in the Havana/Concord (Coonbottom) area about 1825. Some lived in the different areas of the county...... Hinson, Quincy, etc. Listed below is my lineage. Chester lineage: g-g-g-grandparents: Abel Chester & Sarah Unknown g-g-grandparents: Abner Chester & Roseanne Unknown g-grandparents: George Henry Chester & Melissa Johnson grandparents: Oliver Noah Chester & Lillian McElvy parents: Jane Chester & John (Jake or J.C.) Calvin Yon me: Deretha Elizabeth (Liz) Yon & Valentine L. Gerlits, Jr. McElvy Lineage: g-g-g-grandparents: William McElvy & Barbara (Barbary) Reeves g-g-grandparents: Lawson Gamble McElvy & Julia Margaret Booth g-grandparents: Albert Booth McElvy & Sarah (Sallie Ann) Jane Moore grandparents: Lillian McElvy & Oliver Noah Chester parents: Jane Chester & John (Jake or J.C.) Yon me: Deretha Elizabeth (Liz) Yon & Valentine L. Gerlits, Jr. Moore Lineage: g-g-grandparents: Charlie Moore & Elizabeth J. King g-grandparents: Sarah (Sallie Ann) Jane Moore & Albert Booth McElvy grandparents: Lillian McElvy & Oliver Noah Chester parents: Jane Chester & John (Jake or J.C.) Yon me; Deretha Elizabeth (Liz) Yon & Valentine L. Gerlits, Jr. Many of the above were born, lived and died in the Havana/Concord (Coonbottom) area. I am researching all of the above surnames and hope to hear from other researchers and/or "cousins" who are interested in the same families. I have quite a lot of info and am willing to share with others. Of course, I'm always looking for more info, also. Liz Gerlits Palm Bay, FL

My grandparents, John H. & Roseann Yon are listed in the 1910 Federal Census with their children. My father, John C. is listed as being one month old. (He was born on March 10, 1910 in Jackson Co, FL.) The census was taken on April 18th in Jackson Co, FL, Precinct 4, Richter. I am reasonably certain that my father was born there, but I cannot find it on a map. They are listed in the same place on the 1920 Federal Census - Jackson Co, FL, Precinct 4, Richter. They are listed on the 1935 Florida State Census as living in Jackson Co, FL, Precinct 4, Cottondale. Is Richter and Cottondale the same place? Did the name change from Richter to Cottondale? Are they two separate places near each other? Can anyone help??? Thanks! Liz Gerlits Palm Bay, FL

Howdy Folks; I would like to hear from anyone that is researching the Franklin families. My Grandfather was James Franklin.He was born in Glynn Co Ga. Somewhere around 1841 and 1848. I have conflicting records of which is which. My Great-grandfather is the one I am really looking for. I have reams of information on his descendents I would like to share with anyone. Thanks A heap albert@digitalexp.com

Dear Researchers: Looking for African American surnames Bright and Linear. The time period is 1870 to 1885. Would like to communicate with others who had relatives living in Quincy at this time. Thank you in advance for your assistance. don harris