In a message dated 03/27/2000 4:45:51 PM Central Standard Time, [email protected] writes: << You say you "found" that info ... where? Is it your family? It seems to be mostly from census and some mariage records... >> It IS from census and marriage records and the sources were listed within the text of the outline. later, mona

Can obits be gotten online? Could you please explain how? Thanks ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, March 27, 2000 9:25 AM Subject: [FLESCAMB] Gathleny > Maura, The name must not have died out or if if did, it was in the not too > distant past. You would probably benefit from getting the obits for these > people and see if parantage and descendants were listed. Death cert. should > be recent enough to have parents listed. Take care > Marilyn > > SSDI Search Results Top Things to Do > @ Ancestry.com > > Viewing records 1-4 of 4 Matches > > > ANNIE GATHLENY Request Information > SSN 261-51-3665 Residence: 32501 Pensacola, FL > Born 27 Oct 1908 Last Benefit: > Died 2 Feb 1998 Issued: FL (1973) > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- > -- > > DORA GATHLENY Request Information > SSN 261-58-5684 Residence: 32501 Pensacola, FL > Born 15 Oct 1894 Last Benefit: 32503 Pensacola, Escambia, FL > Died Apr 1978 Issued: FL (1955) > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- > -- > > EDWARD GATHLENY Request Information > SSN 267-02-7932 Residence: 32501 Pensacola, FL > Born 12 Oct 1885 Last Benefit: > Died 15 Dec 1967 Issued: FL (1966) > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- > -- > > LEO GATHLENY Request Information > SSN 265-10-0735 Residence: 32501 Pensacola, FL > Born 21 Oct 1914 Last Benefit: > Died 29 Mar 1993 Issued: FL (Before 1951) > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- > -- > > > >

What information would be listed on a death certificate of someone who died in Escambia County between 1901-1910?

Maura, The name must not have died out or if if did, it was in the not too distant past. You would probably benefit from getting the obits for these people and see if parantage and descendants were listed. Death cert. should be recent enough to have parents listed. Take care Marilyn SSDI Search Results Top Things to Do @ Ancestry.com Viewing records 1-4 of 4 Matches ANNIE GATHLENY Request Information SSN 261-51-3665 Residence: 32501 Pensacola, FL Born 27 Oct 1908 Last Benefit: Died 2 Feb 1998 Issued: FL (1973) - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- DORA GATHLENY Request Information SSN 261-58-5684 Residence: 32501 Pensacola, FL Born 15 Oct 1894 Last Benefit: 32503 Pensacola, Escambia, FL Died Apr 1978 Issued: FL (1955) - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- EDWARD GATHLENY Request Information SSN 267-02-7932 Residence: 32501 Pensacola, FL Born 12 Oct 1885 Last Benefit: Died 15 Dec 1967 Issued: FL (1966) - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- LEO GATHLENY Request Information SSN 265-10-0735 Residence: 32501 Pensacola, FL Born 21 Oct 1914 Last Benefit: Died 29 Mar 1993 Issued: FL (Before 1951) - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --

Subject: [CREEK-SOUTHEAST] 1816 Year of no summer Resent-Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2000 13:05:34 -0800 (PST) Resent-From: [email protected] Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2000 15:05:48 -0600 From: Charles & Nancy Royall <[email protected]> To: [email protected] I am going to pass on a tidbit of Info 1816: The year without a summer As a result of the eruption of Mt. Tambour Volcano in Java 1815, 12,000 island residents lost their lives. The Volcano is also to blame for an unusual weather pattern the following year in North America, resulting in mass migrations of people trying to avoid the ensuing climatic changes. The summer of 1816 was unusually cold, with killing frosts and even snowfall destroying crops throughout the United States. June and July were the coldest months, 19 states had snowfall in June! There were no fall harvests; animals and people starved; wild animals ravaged the frontier. Not understanding the meteorological causes, people blamed the wrath of God for their hardships. Some, destitute and despondent, committed suicide. By 1817 the climate had returned to normal. However, many had moved to warmer parts of the country and numerous farmers left for the cities to go into industrial work. If you have no explanation for why your ancestor may have migrated or you can not determine exactly when it happened just sometime around 1815-1820 consider that this event may have been the cause. from the Jefferson Co. Genealogical Society Newsletter, Jefferson City, TN. Feb. 1995 Charlie

Descendants of Victor F. Holst, Sr. 1 Victor F. Holst, Sr. Sex: Male b: Oct/27/1852 in Germany d: Jul/14/1922 in Pensacola, Escambia Co, FL .. +Charlotte Hurd Sex: Female b: Feb/26/1856 d: Feb/01/1918 in Pensacola, Escambia Co, FL Burial: St. John's Cemetery, Pensacola, Escambia Co, FL . 2 Harry Holst Sex: Male b: in 1967 residence Harrisburg, PA . 2 John E. Holst Sex: Male b: Aug/27/1873 d: Nov/13/1907 in Pensacola, Escambia Co, FL ..... +Maggie Powers Sex: Female b: Sep/02/1876 d: Apr/12/1910 in Pensacola, Escambia Co, FL m: Feb/10/1898 in Pensacola, Escambia Co, FL ..... 3 Aldrich Edward Holst Sex: Male d: 1950 in Pensacola, Escambia County, Florida ......... +Violet C. Malone Sex: Female m: Bet. 1911 - 1927 in Pensacola, Escambia County, Florida Marriage Fact: in Escambia County, Florida Marriage Record T-426 . 2 Victor F. Holst, Jr. Sex: Male b: May/29/1881 d: Sep/12/1940 in Pensacola, Escambia Co, FL Burial: St. John's Cemetery, Pensacola, Escambia Co, FL ..... +Estelle Pfeiffer Sex: Female b: May/08/1886 d: Mar/13/1936 in Pensacola, Escambia Co, FL m: Oct/09/1902 in Pensacola, Escambia Co, FL Marriage Fact: in Escambia County, Florida Marriage Record P-31 Burial: St. John's Cemetery, Pensacola, Escambia Co, FL ..... 3 Mabel Charlotte Holst Sex: Female b: Abt. 1904 ......... +Harvey Jones Sex: Male b: Apr/07/1902 m: Feb/09/1924 in Pensacola, Escambia Co, FL . 2 Daisy Margaret Holst Sex: Female b: Dec/17/1885 in FL d: Feb/20/1967 in Pensacola, Escambia Co, FL ..... +Louis Richard (Roache) Roche Sex: Male b: Abt. 1875 in Pensacola, Escambia Co, FL m: Abt. 1902 in Pensacola, Escambia Co, FL - Marriage Record P-228 Marriage Fact: in Escambia County, Florida Marriage Record P-228 1880: US Florida Census, Escambia County, Sup. Dist. 18, Enum. No. 45, page 78 C, page7, lines 15-20. Father: Joseph H. (Roache) Roche Mother: Catherine Matilda Maura ..... 3 Leona Josephine Roche Sex: Female b: Abt. 1905 in Pensacola, Escambia Co, FL d: Jun/04/1975 in Pensacola, Escambia Co, FL ..... 3 Helen Catherine Roche Sex: Female b: Jul/24/1909 in Pensacola, Escambia Co, FL ......... +Larry Dinsmore Sex: Male b: Aft. 1900 in Pensacola, Escambia Co, FL d: in deceased m: in Pensacola, Escambia Co, FL . 2 [3] Florence May (Mae) Holst Sex: Female b: Aug/13/1892 in Pensacola, Escambia Co, FL d: Feb/05/1984 in Pensacola, Escambia Co, FL ..... +Ernest Felix Roche Sex: Male b: Feb/20/1887 in Pensacola, Escambia Co, FL m: 1908 in Pensacola, Escambia Co, FL Father: Francis L. (Bud) (Roach) Roche Mother: Rubena (Ruby) Hernandez ..... 3 [1] Thelma Margaret Roche Sex: Female b: in Pensacola, Escambia Co, FL ......... +Tony Joseph Bauman Sex: Male ..... *2nd Husband of [1] Thelma Margaret Roche: ......... +Milton M. Evans Sex: Male m: Bet. 1934 - 1936 in Pensacola, Escambia Co, FL Marriage Fact: in Escambia County, Florida Marriage Record 33-499 ..... 3 Frances Louise (Roache) Roche Sex: Female b: Jan/26/1909 in Pensacola, Escambia Co, FL d: Jan/22/1990 in Pensacola, Escambia Co, FL ......... +Charles Lee Van Etten, Sr. Sex: Male b: Sep/19/1902 d: Feb/1967 m: Nov/14/1925 in Pensacola, Escambia Co, FL Marriage Fact: in Escambia County, Florida Marriage Record V-51 ......... 4 [2] Cathryn Van Etten Sex: Female ............. +Unknown James Sex: Male m: in Pensacola, Escambia Co, FL ......... *2nd Husband of [2] Cathryn Van Etten: ............. +Henry H. Haggerman, Jr. Sex: Male m: in Pensacola, Escambia Co, FL ............. 5 Cynthia Haggerman Sex: Female ................. +Russell Carlos Sex: Male ................ 6 Christine Carlos Sex: Female ................ 6 Caren Carlos Sex: Female ......... 4 Charles Lee Van Etten, Jr. Sex: Male ............. +Charlyene Clark Sex: Female . *2nd Husband of [3] Florence May (Mae) Holst: ..... +Matthew McGrath Sullivan Sex: Male m: Bet. 1939 - 1940 in Pensacola, Escambia County, Florida Marriage Fact: in Escambia County, Florida Marriage Record 41-316 . 2 Dora Rowe Holst Sex: Female b: Oct/15/1894 in Pensacola, Escambia Co, FL ..... +Edward Grover Gathleny Sex: Male b: Abt. Jan/1886 in LA m: May/22/1912 in Pensacola, Escambia Co, FL 1900: US Florida Census, Escambia County, pre. Nix, Warrington Village, sup. dis. 1, enu. dis. 12, page 68, lines 18-24; residence: 55 Canal Street Father: Unknown Gathleny Mother: Catherine McGlinn . 2 Unknown Holst Sex: Male b: Aug/04/1897 in Pensacola, Escambia Co, FL

Descendants of William H. Diffin 1 William H. Diffin Sex: Male b: 1835 in NY d: Feb/20/1887 in Pensacola, Escambia Co, FL Burial: St. John's Catholic Cemetery, Pensacola, Escambia Co, FL 1880: US Florida Census, Escambia County, Warington, page 13, lines 26-32; occupation: Ship Carpenter .. +Mary Colotilda Tapiola Sex: Female b: 1844 in FL d: Jul/31/1897 in Pensacola, Escambia Co, FL Burial: St. John's Catholic Cemetery, Pensacola, Escambia Co, FL 1880: US Florida Census, Escambia County, Warington, page 13, lines 26-32. . 2 Alexander Diffin Sex: Male b: Abt. Jan/1865 in FL, F-GA, M-AL 1880: US Florida Census, Escambia County, Warington, page 13, lines 26-32. 1900: US Florida Census, Escambia County, pre. Nix, Warrington Village, sup. dis. 1, enu. dis. 12, page 67, lines 2-8; residence: 18 Canal Street; occupation: Carpenter; One black, female servant in this household. ..... +Mary E. (MRS.) Purden Sex: Female b: Abt. Feb/1869 in FL, F-GA, M-GA m: Dec/06/1894 in Pensacola, Escambia Co, FL Marriage Fact: in Escambia County, Florida Marriage Record MN-361 1900: US Florida Census, Escambia County, pre. Nix, Warrington Village, sup. dis. 1, enu. dis. 12, page 67, lines 2-8; residence: 18 Canal Street ..... 3 Eulalie (Eulah) Diffin Sex: Female b: Abt. Jul/1898 in Pensacola, Escambia Co, FL 1900: US Florida Census, Escambia County, pre. Nix, Warrington Village, sup. dis. 1, enu. dis. 12, page 67, lines 2-8; residence: 18 Canal Street ......... +Joseph Patrick McHugh Sex: Male m: Bet. 1911 - 1927 in Pensacola, Escambia County, Florida Marriage Fact: in Escambia County, Florida Marriage Record S-244 ..... 3 William Tracy Diffin Sex: Male b: Jan/1900 in Pensacola, Escambia Co, FL 1900: US Florida Census, Escambia County, pre. Nix, Warrington Village, sup. dis. 1, enu. dis. 12, page 67, lines 2-8; residence: 18 Canal Street ..... 3 Alexander Leonard Diffin Sex: Male b: Abt. 1903 in Warrington, Pensacola, Escambia Co, FL d: Dec/06/1977 in Pensacola, Escambia Co, FL . 2 Anetta A. (Annie) (Diffen) Diffin Sex: Female b: Abt. 1866 in Florida 1880: US Florida Census, Escambia County, Warington, page 13, lines 26-32. ..... +Frank J. Smith Sex: Male m: Feb/13/1888 in Pensacola, Escambia Co, FL Marriage Fact: in Escambia County, Florida Marriage Record M-37 . 2 William Tracy Diffin Sex: Male b: Abt. Jan/1870 in Florida, F-New York, M-New York 1900: US Florida Census, Escambia County, pre. Nix, Warrington Village, sup. dis. 1, enu. dis. 12, page 68, lines 68-71; residence: 69 Canal Street; occupation: Engine Tender ..... +Eva May Stump Sex: Female b: Abt. Nov/1879 in Florida, F-Florida, M-Florida m: Abt. 1897 in Pensacola, Escambia County, Florida Marriage Fact: in Escambia County, Florida Marriage Record T-535 1900: US Florida Census, Escambia County, pre. Nix, Warrington Village, sup. dis. 1, enu. dis. 12, page 68, lines 68-71; residence: 69 Canal Street . 2 John Henry (Diffen) Diffin Sex: Male b: Jan/27/1871 in Warrington, Escambia Co, FL d: 1907 in Pensacola, Escambia Co, FL Burial: St. John's Catholic Cemetery, Pensacola, Escambia Co, FL 1880: US Florida Census, Escambia County, Warington, page 13, lines 26-32. ..... +Mary Eva Caro Sex: Female m: Jul/08/1897 in Pensacola, Escambia Co, FL* Marriage Fact: in Escambia County, Florida Marriage Record O-77 ..... 3 Mary Eva Diffin Sex: Female ......... +Walter Francis Weekley Sex: Male m: 1942 in Pensacola, Escambia Co, FL Marriage Fact: in Escambia County, Florida Marriage Record 50-52 . 2 Alice Diffin Sex: Female b: Abt. 1872 in Florida 1880: US Florida Census, Escambia County, Warington, page 13, lines 26-32. . 2 Earl Joseph Diffin Sex: Male b: Abt. Mar/1876 in FL, F-NY, M-NY 1880: US Florida Census, Escambia County, Warington, page 13, lines 26-32. 1900: US Florida Census, Escambia County, pre. Nix, Warrington Village, sup. dis. 1, enu. dis. 12, page 68, lines 68-71; residence: 69 Canal Street; occupation: Day Laborer ..... +Catherine Oretta (Katie) Gathleny Sex: Female b: Abt. Feb/1880 in FL m: Oct/22/1900 in Pensacola, Escambia Co, FL Marriage Fact: in Escambia County, Florida Marriage Record O-380 1900: US Florida Census, Escambia County, pre. Nix, Warrington Village, sup. dis. 1, enu. dis. 12, page 68, lines 18-24; residence: 55 Canal Street Father: Unknown Gathleny Mother: Catherine McGlinn . 2 McDonald Diffin Sex: Male b: Abt. Feb/1884 in Florida, F-New York, M-New York 1900: US Florida Census, Escambia County, pre. Nix, Warrington Village, sup. dis. 1, enu. dis. 12, page 68, lines 68-71; residence: 69 Canal Street

In a message dated 03/26/2000 6:56:36 PM Central Standard Time, [email protected] writes: << The Gathleny family lived in Warrington on Canal (1900) and Dallas (1920) streets. Catherine (McGlinn) Gathelney lived there as a widow with children Forest, Florence, Katie (married Earl DIFFIN) Ligouri, Edward Grover and John. What Roman Catholic church would be the closest to there for the family to have had baptisms and marriages in? Daughters Annie, Florence and Liguori may have married into other families in the area. >> Here's what I found. mona Descendants of Unknown Gathleny 1 Unknown Gathleny Sex: Male b: in ME d: Bef. 1901 .. +Catherine McGlinn Sex: Female b: Abt. Jan/1848 in RI, F-Ireland, M-Ireland 1900: US Florida Census, Escambia County, pre. Nix, Warrington Village, sup. dis. 1, enu. dis. 12, page 68, lines 18-24; residence: 55 Canal Street; By 1900, had 13 children, 10 children are living. . 2 Annie Gathleny Sex: Female b: Abt. Nov/1866 in NY , F-Vermaon, M-NY 1900: US Florida Census, Escambia County, Fort Barrancas, Township 3, page 87, lines 51-55; By 1900, had 3 children, 3 children are living. ..... +Ernest Robert Grossjohann I Sex: Male b: Abt. Jun/1859 in Germany, F-Germany, M-Germany m: Feb/07/1891 in Pensacola, Escambia Co, FL Marriage Fact: in Escambia County, Florida Marriage Record MN-112 ..... 3 Marie H. Grossjohann Sex: Female b: Abt. Apr/1892 in Florida ......... +George A. Hogan Sex: Male m: Bet. 1911 - 1927 in Pensacola, Escambia County, Florida Marriage Fact: in Escambia County, Florida Marriage Record S-63 ..... 3 Mangus (Magnus) N. Grossjohann Sex: Male b: Abt. Oct/1893 in Florida ......... +Frances Marguerite Miller Sex: Female m: Bet. 1934 - 1936 in Pensacola, Escambia County, Florida Marriage Fact: in Escambia County, Florida Marriage Record 33-206 ..... 3 Ernest Robert Grossjohann II Sex: Male b: Abt. Oct/1895 in Florida . 2 Forrest Gathleny Sex: Male b: Abt. May/1876 in RI 1900: US Florida Census, Escambia County, pre. Nix, Warrington Village, sup. dis. 1, enu. dis. 12, page 68, lines 18-24; residence: 55 Canal Street; occupation: Laborer . 2 Florence (Gathlena) Gathleny Sex: Female b: Abt. Jan/1878 in RI d: Aft. 1954 1900: US Florida Census, Escambia County, pre. Nix, Warrington Village, sup. dis. 1, enu. dis. 12, page 68, lines 18-24; residence: 55 Canal Street ..... +William J. Doyle Sex: Male b: Abt. 1864 in Warrington, Pensacola, Escambia Co, FL d: Jan/29/1954 in Warrington, Pensacola, Escambia Co, FL - Buried in St. John's Cem, Warrington m: Nov/28/1903 in Pensacola, Escambia Co, FL - Marriage Record P-138 Marriage Fact: in Escambia County, Florida Marriage Record P-138 ..... 3 Francis X. Doyle Sex: Male b: in Warrington, Pensacola, Escambia Co, FL ......... +Thelma Vivian Athey Sex: Female b: Dec/23/1916 d: Apr/28/1961 in Pensacola, Escambia Co, FL m: Bet. 1930 - 1934 in Pensacola, Escambia Co, FL - Marriage Record 29-436 Marriage Fact: in Escambia County, Florida Marriage Record 29-436 Burial: Robert's Cemetery, Pensacola, Escambia Co, FL ..... 3 Alice Doyle Sex: Female b: in Warrington, Pensacola, Escambia Co, FL ......... +Unknown Paupp Sex: Male ..... 3 Clara Iola Doyle Sex: Female b: Apr/18/1894 in Warrington, Pensacola, Escambia Co, FL ......... +John Joseph Coogan Sex: Male b: Jun/26/1897 m: Nov/27/1919 in Pensacola, Escambia Co, FL ..... 3 Edith Doyle Sex: Female b: in Warrington, Pensacola, Escambia Co, FL ......... +Unknown Edwards Sex: Male ..... 3 Merlin N. Doyle Sex: Male b: in Warrington, Pensacola, Escambia Co, FL . 2 Catherine Oretta (Katie) Gathleny Sex: Female b: Abt. Feb/1880 in FL 1900: US Florida Census, Escambia County, pre. Nix, Warrington Village, sup. dis. 1, enu. dis. 12, page 68, lines 18-24; residence: 55 Canal Street ..... +Earl Joseph Diffin Sex: Male b: Abt. Mar/1876 in FL, F-NY, M-NY m: Oct/22/1900 in Pensacola, Escambia Co, FL Marriage Fact: in Escambia County, Florida Marriage Record O-380 1880: US Florida Census, Escambia County, Warington, page 13, lines 26-32. 1900: US Florida Census, Escambia County, pre. Nix, Warrington Village, sup. dis. 1, enu. dis. 12, page 68, lines 68-71; residence: 69 Canal Street; occupation: Day Laborer Father: William H. Diffin Mother: Mary Colotilda Tapiola . 2 Leguori A. Gathleny Sex: Female b: Abt. Jan/1882 in LA 1900: US Florida Census, Escambia County, pre. Nix, Warrington Village, sup. dis. 1, enu. dis. 12, page 68, lines 18-24; residence: 55 Canal Street ..... +George Edgar Hetzel Sex: Male m: Nov/30/1912 in Pensacola, Escambia Co, FL Marriage Fact: in Escambia County, Florida Marriage Record R-208 . 2 Edward Grover Gathleny Sex: Male b: Abt. Jan/1886 in LA 1900: US Florida Census, Escambia County, pre. Nix, Warrington Village, sup. dis. 1, enu. dis. 12, page 68, lines 18-24; residence: 55 Canal Street ..... +Dora Rowe Holst Sex: Female b: Oct/15/1894 in Pensacola, Escambia Co, FL m: May/22/1912 in Pensacola, Escambia Co, FL Father: Victor F. Holst, Sr. Mother: Charlotte Hurd . 2 John Gathleny Sex: Male b: Abt. Apr/1888 in LA 1900: US Florida Census, Escambia County, pre. Nix, Warrington Village, sup. dis. 1, enu. dis. 12, page 68, lines 18-24; residence: 55 Canal Street

Hi. Does anyone know if there is still a book for sale about the burials at MAGNOLIA Cemetery? A very nice lady sent me some MCVOY info a while ago from a book about this cemetery. If it is still printed and available for purchase, can someone please share the title and where one could purchase a copy. Thanks so much. I need to find out if any MILON or MILLON or anything close are buried there. Thanks! Bonnie mailto:[email protected] Jim Moore wrote: > I think it means Magnolia Cemetery Perpetural Care. > > Jim Moore > Satsuma, AL > > [email protected] wrote: > > > Help!! > > Does anyone know what M.C.P.C. means. My GGGrandfather's death certificate > > says he was buried in MCPC. The year was 1876. Many have assumed that it > > means Magnolia Cemetery Pay Grave but there is no record of his burial in the > > Magnolia records. Any ideas??? Please send to [email protected] > > Robin Corbett > > -- > webpage: http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Canyon/6044/index.html > Surnames interests: MOORE, HARTLEY, MALONE, LIPSCOMB, CHASTANG, LEWIS, > RAWLS, WINBERG, NELSON, BUZBEE, ROCHON

RE: MCVOY and MCAVOY (MCBOY/MCBOYD/MACBOY/M'BOYetc.) and ISABEL MILON (*finally know correct spelling.) ca.1750-1850 in Savannah/St.Augustine/Pensacola/Mobile/BaldwinCoAL and vicinity. DOES anyone know if either JOHN MCAVOY (MCVOY) or ISABEL MILON ever received a SPANISH LAND GRANT? I know WILLIAM (GUILLERMO) and DIEGO (*JAMES) MCAVOY/MCVOY did. But no clue what happened to their parents JOHN & ISABEL MILON MCVOY. Also, WILLIAM and DIEGO had an older sister ANA who was b. abt 1771? and an older brother JOAQUIN or JUAN who was born before 1775. What ever happened to them. Who did they marry--if anyone? Has anyone seen them on any records. The only mention I have ever seen of them is in REGINA MANDRELL'S book 1988 on the MORENO family. **IS THERE A COPY ANYWHERE OF THE FLORIDA COLONY 1783 CENSUS? I saw something on ANCESTRY.COM for JOHN MACVOY being named on this census. But the only 1783 I saw on-line was for east FLORIDA and only mentions a JOHN MCVAY in a military company of some man named YOUNG. PLEASE--does anyone know WHERE I can find this census info/roster? I would love to see what it says about JOHN MACVOY. THANKS to all who have been so kind to help me with my genealogy "Quest." Regards, Bonnie McVoy Treon mailto:[email protected] mailto:[email protected] --------- quoted: Vivian Burns <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Do you have any idea where in Northern Ireland John came from? Are you aware of the Spanish land grant in Baldwin Co. now Bromley Rd to this family and later bought by Origen Sibley? Vivian

Hello, I am new to this list. I have just found that a branch of my family originally from Brooklyn NY ended up in the Pensacola area, probably because of the father being in the Army from 1860-1885ish. I now live in Mobile AL, but am not familiar with research in this area. I am hoping someone can give me some advice, as I hope to go to Pensacola and do some research. Yesterday at the Mobile Genealogy Library I used the census films and traced the Gathleny's and Diffin (whom one of the daughers married into) back from 1920 to 1900 for Gathleny and to 1880 for Diffin. I"ve searched online via the Escambia County page and found information on obits and on 3 of the Gathleny boys who registered during WW1. I have one FL death cert for one of the Gathleny boys, which states he was buried in Holy Cross Cemetery. I"ve called them and they say 4 are buried there, but that is not all the family. My specific questions I hope someone can help me with are these....... The Gathleny family lived in Warrington on Canal (1900) and Dallas (1920) streets. Catherine (McGlinn) Gathelney lived there as a widow with children Forest, Florence, Katie (married Earl DIFFIN) Ligouri, Edward Grover and John. What Roman Catholic church would be the closest to there for the family to have had baptisms and marriages in? Daughters Annie, Florence and Liguori may have married into other families in the area. I"ve been getting FL death certs for $5 via Jacksonville.... but I read on the website where you can get them in Escambia for $8.... is this true? Do you get them immediately in person? I've sent for Nicholas Gathleny's army pension records, but I think he died between 1885 and 1900 (either in Fort Jackson LA or in the Pensacola area). I have been unable to find any reference to him or Catherine I have found several obits in the online indexes. It's been suggested I contact a Harold Bonifay for them. Is this accurate? Are there other indexes of obits, as there are others I would be interested in that are not listed. What is the best place to go in Pensacola to research for the day.... I'd like access to the 1885 State Census, Florida death and marriage indexes, cemetery records. I think I've read where the Historical Society has most of this? Do they have a fee to research (again, I think I saw that on a webpage). The Gathleny line appears to have "died out", as it's an uncommon name anyway (I suspect it's a mangled form of another name that Nicholas got when he joined the Army before 1860). I do believe tho that there are some Diffins who might still be in the area since they had some children. Any advice on researching these families will be welcomed. Maura Petzolt Maura [email protected] *********************************** Helpful Hints for Successful Searching http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlwat/instruct.htm To join the SHAMROCK list (for searching in all of Ireland), send only the word subscribe in the body of an email to [email protected] or [email protected] for the digest version

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RE: MCAVOY, MCAVOY, MCBOY, M'BOY, MACABOY, etc: Thank you for the informative explanation of the pronunciation. I do know that DIEGO did indeed retain the name DIEGO in contrast to the Angicized version of JAMES, not just Spanish Records, but War of 1812, etc. But later down the road, decendents were named JAMES after him. There is a son of DIEGO, JR. who was named JAMES LaTURETTE MCVOY,III. Still wondering who JAMES LaTURETTE was? Does anyone recognize this name? DIEGO,Sr. was from an IRISH father--John MCAVOY. I was not sure if that was our "real" name or not, as I have seen it so many ways as you mention. I had also applied for a Pensacola 300 Certificate last year from my WILLIAM/GUILLERMO MCVOY who was brother of DIEGO is my ancestor. My ancestor did at some point go by WILLIAM-- as is on his grave. He is buried at OLD CHURCH ST.CEMETERY in MOBILE and is listed as MCVOY on the stone per the book and website info. On the PENSACOLA certificate it is MCAVOY and on an old census it is supposedly MAKBOY per the Regina Mandrell Book 1988 on the Moreno family. (1784 Census Pensacola?) Now I thought I remembered reading in that book about my ISABEL(listed there as MELOS) marrying a wealthy Spaniard named MARTIN de MADRID after JOHN MCAVOY'S death. I have seen absolutely nothing anywhere on that marriage other than the Mandrell book. I called St.Michael's in PENSACOLA and the lady said the records prior to 1861 burned. That was really a tragedy. Does anyone know more about such a marriage to a MARTIN de MADRID? There are land rec's in FL for a MARTIN MADRID on-line. What happened to DIEGO and WILIAM's elder brother JOAQUN and elder sister ANA who were both listed in the MANDRELL book as being born in the early 1770's? The way the MOBILE Baptism Certificates are written seems to imply both JOHN MCAVOY and ISABEL MILON were "still" living in 1809 when DIEGO MCVOY,JR was Baptised, yet the later Baptism of son, MARTIN in 1815 refers to both JOHN and ISABEL in the "were" past tense. Apparently they may have died in that time period?? Does anyone know where they may have been buried? Another interesting thing that points to the accuracy of the Baptismal Certificates in naming ISABEL'S maiden name of MILON is the name "MALAN" MCVOY which is found in a cemetery in MAINE in the later 1800's. Wonder if that child was named in honor of someone named MALAN. He was the son of "a" PETER MCVOY (I think) and there was a PETER MCVOY living at the Wm.MCVOY,JR household in PENSACOLA in 1870. He would have been born ca. 1856 per census age. May have been a brother to my great grandpa, MARTIN MCVOY.(b.1841) Also, Diego,Jr had a son named MELANCTHON which is also similar. It does directly state on both Baptismal Certificates that the DIEGO MCAVOY was a "NATIVE OF PENSACOLA" and we already know his father JOHN was a native of Northern IRE. There is an on-line record of "an" ISABEL MILON, b. (SPRING HILL, MOBILE AL)ca.1767 on the LDS site. She was too young to be "the" ISABEL MILON on the 1784 census unless the age on the LDS records are in error or there was another ISABEL MILON in SPRING HILL. Does anyone know anything about the MILON (any close spelling) surname in MOBILE or PENSACOLA in the late 1700's? You never know if these names are clues, coincidence or honorary, but it is good to keep an open mind. Anyway, the main point is that I know to definitely check all spellings so I don't miss anyone important. I guess that pretty much holds true for all surnames. I strongly feel it "probably" was originally MCAVOY from family lore. Thanks again for your insight and taking the time to share your thoughts. Warm regards, Bonnie McVoy Treon Kannapolis, NC,USA ---------------------- RE QUOTE: Please be aware that in Spanish ruled areas then and now a person's first name was and is changed to the Spanish equivalent. Diego is James. Your Diego/James could still have been of Irish parentage if not born in Ireland himself. You will find that in Mississippi during the Spanish control even some of the surnames were translated where possible. I have noticed some of the McAvoy/McVoy researchers spelling the name McAboy or McBoy and again that is because the V and B in Spanish are sounded very much a like and to an English speaking person listening to a Spanish speaking person the difference probably would not be discerned. For instance the female name Elvira sounds like Elvida because of the R being followed by a vowel. In the pursuit of our genealogy we have to study so much more than we ever expected when beginning. And no one warned us before we caught the 'Bug'. In one of our family languages vowels are in short supply and accent marks too plentiful to remember the sounds when they appear, for instance, Trg. Please do not think that I am being critical. I have just been watching this McAvoy discussion for a couple of years and have not seen anyone address the language aspect and thought it would be helpful to bring it up for your consideration. Lots of good luck on your family search.

The Complete Book of Emigrants, 1607-1776 September 1652. Probate of will of James Roche of Warwick Squeak, Virginia. (EEAC) The Complete Book of Emigrants, 1607-1776 6 November 1672-9 December 1672. Shippers by the Dutch-built Phoenix of Bristol, Mr. Henry Roche, bound from Bristol for Virginia: Edward Fielding, George White, William Morgan, John Challenor. (PRO: E190/1138/1). The Complete Book of Emigrants, 1607-1776 23 March 1681-6 May 1681. Shippers by the Elizabeth & Francis, Mr. John Brookes, bound from London for New England: John Crow, Christopher Hamilton, Edmond White & Thomas Hunt, Robert Holt, Jonathan Leigh, George Roche, John Bawdon. (PRO: E190/99/1). The Complete Book of Emigrants, 1607-1776 19 July 1695. Western Circuit prisoners reprieved to be transported to Barbados. Devon: Elizabeth Downe of Chittlehampton, spinster; John Traverse of Plymouth; Isaac Moore of Modbury; William Spikeman of Modbury; Philip Washington of Honiton; Edward Bragg of Dolton; John Merryman of Heavitree. Somerset: Elizabeth Roche of Stogumber, spinster. William Rose of London, yeoman; John Miller of Chelsea (Middlesex). (PRO: C66/3378/13). The Complete Book of Emigrants, 1607-1776 April 1726. Grants made in the Prerogative Court of Canterbury, London: Probate of will of Augustine Long, citizen and wheeler of London, whose granddaughter, Elizabeth Rise, was in Virginia; Probate of will of John Tookerman of South Carolina; Administration of Patrick Roche of Limerick, Ireland, who died in Sypruss, South Carolina; Probate by solemn affirmation of will of Barbara Danson of Holborn, Middlesex, spinster, who had a plantation in North Carolina. (AW). The Complete Book of Emigrants, 1607-1776 14 October 1728. The following bound to William Burge: John Farrow, William Smith, Fortunatus Fulford, Thomas Foster, Richard Salisbury, John Haynes, Samuel Mihill, Matthew Hamson and Richard Clark to serve in Antigua; Thomas Holden and Mary Ann La Roche to serve in Jamaica. (CLRO: ATSR/ f.36, 37v, 38). The Complete Book of Emigrants, 1607-1776 Roche, Elizabeth of Stogumber, spinster. Reprieved for transportation for Barbados July 1695. Somerset. The Complete Book of Emigrants, 1607-1776 Roche, Mary. Sentenced to transportation April Transported December 1735 John Landing Certificate Annapolis September 1736. Middlesex.

The Complete Book of Emigrants, 1607-1776 Roache, Eleanor. Sentenced to transportation 14 yrs September-October 1774. Middlesex. Roche, Elizabeth of Stogumber, spinster. Reprieved for transportation for Barbados July 1695. Somerset. Roach, Elizabeth. Sentenced to transportation & Transported October 1730 Forward Landing Certificate Potomack January 1731. London. Roach, Elizabeth wife of John. Sentenced to transportation January Transported April 1762 Dolphin. Middlesex. Roach, James. Sentenced to transportation October 1751-January 1752. Middlesex. Roach, John. Sentenced to transportation September-October 1748 Transported January 1749 Laura. Middlesex. Roach, John. Sentenced to transportation stealing at St. Philip & Jacob Summer Transportation Bond August 1749. Gloucestershire. Roach, John. Sentenced to transportation for highway robbery Lent Reprieved for transportation 14 yrs Summer 1750. Cheshire. Roach, John. Sentenced to transportation December 1761 Transportation Bond Dolphin but pardoned for Army service in Jamaica January 1762. Middlesex. Roch, Matthias (1736). See Johnson. Middlesex. Roche, Mary. Sentenced to transportation April Transported December 1735 John Landing Certificate Annapolis September 1736. Middlesex. Roach, Richard. Sentenced to transportation at Quarter Sessions April 1773. Middlesex. Roach, Robert. Sentenced to transportation stealing wigs February Transported April 1735 Patapsco Landing Certificate Annapolis October 1735. London. Roach, Samuel. Sentenced to transportation September Transported October 1744 Susannah. Middlesex. Roach, Sarah. Sentenced to transportation December 1775. Middlesex. Roach, William. Reprieved for transportation for Barbados or Jamaica July 1686. Middlesex. ++The Complete Book of Emigrants, 1607-1776 ° Roach, John. Sentenced to transportation December 1761 Transportation Bond Dolphin but Reprieved for transportation for Army service in Jamaica January 1762. Middlesex.

**ALSO, DIEGO MCAVOY, Sr.(MCVOY) is referred to as "A NATIVE OF PENSACOLA" whereas Frausine BOSARGE is referred to as a native of the Parish where the Baptism occurred. This tends to DISPEL family lore about DIEGO being born in SCOTLAND or IRELAND as was listed in other family records. So, this supports Jim Byrne's theory about the travel to the UK would have been unlikely. (Thanks for your help.) It states that DIEGO , Sr was a NATIVE of PENSACOLA on BOTH Baptismal Certificates. 451. Today, received 2 Baptismal Certificates for sons of DIEGO MCAVOY (MCVOY). 1st was for eldest son, DIEGO MCVOY,Jr. who later became a prominent medical doctor in MOBILE. He was born Dec 9, 1807 according to the certificate. He was baptised at THE OLD CATHEDRAL OF IMMACULATE CONCEPTION in MOBILE on Jan 9, 1809. The surname is spelled MCAVOY and the granparents are listed as ISABEL MILON and JOHN MCAVOY (the way it is written, I would "assume" they were still living at this time.) The maternal grandparents are listed as JOSEPH BOUZAGE and CATHERINE BAUDREAU. His "godparents" were CYRIACO LOPEZ and MARIE BOUSAGE. It is signed by the REV.VINCENT GINAN. Book 2, Section 8, Baptisms 1781-1850. 579. The Baptism of MARTIN MCAVOY occured on Wed. 1 May 1816 at the parish of IMMACULATE CONCEPTION. He was born on 6March 1815 and was the son of DIEGO SR. and Frausine BOSARGE. Same grandparents listed but in reference to JOHN MCAVOY and ISABEL MILON, the word "were" is now used in reference to them, in contrast to the word "are" from the 1809 Baptism of DIEGO MCAVOY (MCVOY) JR. The Godparents of MARTIN were JOSEPH KREBS and ELIONOR LEFLEAU. The same priest also performed this Sacrament. This is also recorded BOOK 2, SECTION 8 of the BAPTISMS.

Hi I havent been able to find my scanned copy of that yet, but mine is the Walter Watson.....hes not buried there.He's buried out in Oak Grove. It is my understanding that U of w Fl has the legal papers concerning all that. Em sheppard and condon I THINK was the newport lawyers..... The date of the blast would be the date walter died....he died right away. Actually he was out of the first blast where he was working and was safe, but saw it going to anothre building. He went in to warn those to leave, adn didn't make it back out. My granma identified his body because of a TOE that was missing....only way she knew it wsa him. I will find the scanned copies on a floppy or get another copy scanned.have all that in my filing cabinet somewhere :( pat

Subj: {not a subscriber} Attn: Pat Opachick - 1926 Newport blast Date: 03/19/2000 12:21:38 PM Central Standard Time From: [email protected] (Robert H. Waldrop) To: [email protected] (Bonnie McVoy Treon) Pat: Which one was your grandfather? I checked some of the cemeteries. Robert H. Whitcomb was born 25 Jul 1896 and died 2 Jan 1926. He is burried in Block 2 South, Section 22 of St. John's Cemetery as are several others killed in the blast. I wonder if Newport secured the plots? Robert M. Hammack was born 30 Ded 1894 and died 2 Jan 1926 he is burried in the same plot. His brother Charles Hammack was born 21 Jul 1897 and died a day later on 3 Jan 1926. He also is burried in the same plot. Regards, Bob Pensacola, FL

Pat: Where did you find this excellent source book? If you have it can you do a lookup? There were several members of the ROCHE family (also spelled ROIG, ROACH, ROCH) that are probably in it. Regards, Bob Waldrop NOTE: Bob, I don't think you are sending messages to the Escambia Co, FL mailing list using the address with which you originally joined. All your messages come to me and I have to forward them. Not that I mind, but sometimes, relying on me makes them get to the list late. Each message subject says you aren't a subscriber. mona Date: 03/23/2000 10:27:08 AM Central Standard Time From: [email protected] (Robert H. Waldrop) To: [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: Pat Opachick <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Thursday, March 23, 2000 9:42 AM Subject: Re: [FLESCAMB] This DIXON query was on the Queen Anne's Co Md list- mailto:[email protected] >The Complete Book of Emigrants, 1607-1776 >EMIGRANTS IN BONDAGE > >Satterfield, Sarah (Elizabeth). Sentenced to transportation August >Transported 14 yrs September 1727 Forward Landing Certificate >Rappahannock May 1728. London. > >this is the only SATTERFIELD that shows and no details on when exported to >whom and where.this is just the sentencing was to "transportation" I >think..I get comnfused with some of these old records sometimes >

/comnment: It's a good thing you're not trying to find a city directory back a few years in the Dothan, Houston Co. Library as I did. I reached a year where they told me they just threw them away.!!!!! I was so upset. [email protected] ===================================================== ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, March 24, 2000 8:29 AM Subject: Re: [FLESCAMB] This DIXON query was on the Queen Anne's Co Md list-mailto:ja... > > > > What year did Escambia County start printing a City Directory? Is there anywhere > that I can write for information from one? > > >