Lisa - regarding your e-mail entitled Fleming Debate on Tuesday, 21 Oct, questions #1 on John Ash: The year of his death was 1 April 1872 in St. Clair Co., Alabama. Re question #4 - Jannet Ash and James Sadler Fleming were married 10 Aug 1815, Franklin Co., GA. Regarding your "Fleming Corrections" letter of Oct. 21, you mentioned in the first paragraph about Pliny Rutherford Fleming's second wife. She was Delinda Sadler born in 1792, married 10 Aug 1842 in Gainsville, Alabama. Pliny and Delinda are on the 1850 census of Calhoun Co., TX, showing Pliny age 59, Delinda S. age 58 born in S.C., with children: Martha J. age 19 born AL, Thomas N., age 16 born Alabama and Rutherford P. age 14, attending school. My information on Elijah Fleming born 20 Feb 1753 is as follows: Born in York Co., S.C. Died: 14 Jun 1804 in York Co., S.C. Buried: Bethesda Cemetery, McConnells, S.C. His parents: Robert Fleming and _______. Elijah's first wife unknown. Second wife: Jane Stuart Young, birth date unknown, but died 1782-92 in York Co., S.C. Their children: 1. Young Elijah Fleming (not Elijah Young) b: 1789 m: 5 Oct 1829 to Maria Ann Pegues, Tusaloosa Co., AL d: Before 1832 in Alabama (drowned) 2. Jane Stuart Fleming b: 1791 in York So., S.C. m: William Davison d: 1865 in Navarro County, Texas Elijah's third wife: Mary Renick b: 30 Jan 1760 in MD. She died 22 May 1852 (W) in Madison County, Miss. They married about 1793 in York Co., S.C. Mary Renick's parents were: George Renick and Mary Walker. Their children, all born in York Co., S.C. 1. John Leander Fleming b: 25 Jan 1794, married 30 Jun 1831 in S.C. to Harriet Malinda Cayce (b: 7 Jan 1809). John died 25 Jun 1835 in Camden, Miss. 2. Rachel Ada Fleming b: 1795, married William H. Melton. 3. Robert Boyd Walker Fleming b: 1796, married 22 Dec 1836 in Madison Co, Miss. to Armadella Ross. He did 4 May 1865. 4. George Anson Fleming b: 1800, married 5 Nov 1829 to Mary M. Moore. He married second Sarah Ann Dear. He died 13 Jan 1882 in Madison Co., Miss. (see below) 5. Elizabeth Melinda Fleming b: 10 Aug 1802, m: 1830 to Joseph Josiah Moore. She died 13 Jul 1878 in Madison Co., Miss. 6. Mary Catherine Fleming, married Robert Green Sandifer (b: about 1784). Re George Anson Fleming b: 1800 (#4 above). Mary M. Moore was born 10 Aug 1802 . They had 5 children and after her death he married second wife Sarah Ann Dear in Jan 1840 and had 5 more children. Don't have a list of the first set of children. l. Martha S. Fleming b: 19 Sep 1840. 2. Julia D. Fleming b: 3 Jul 1842 3. Effie M. Fleming b: 23 Jan 1844 4. Susan Leona Fleming b: 9 Apr 1846, married 17 Dec 1868 to Sydney Smith Simpson. William Fleming and Mary Sadler's son John McWhorter Fleming: John McWhorter Fleming : 14 Oct 1795 in S.C., died 15 Oct 1882 in Kimble County, Texas. His wives: #1 Abigail Jeffrey : 7 Jan 1798 in Sevier Co., TN, died 1862 in Caldwell County, TX. #2 Mary Ann Jeffrey, married 20 Dec 1863. She was a widow of James Jeffrey who died in 1860. Mary died 1867. #3 Mrs. Mary Barnett, married 28 Nov 1868. She died 2 Aug 1870. #4 Rachel McDowell, married 24 Dec 1871 in Coryell County, TX. John M. Fleming's children, all born in Tuscaloosal, AL: 1. William J. Fleming b: 19 Apr 1824, married first Perlina Shipp, and second Millie Carpenter. 2. Sarah Jane Fleming b: 6 Aug 1825, married Thomas Farr (1819-1882) on 22 Jul 1841. She died 16 Nov 1896 in Alvin, Texas. 3. Mary Adeline b: 5 Jan 1827, married Thomas Rogers Putnam on 22 Feb 1845. She died 17 May 1870. I have a list of their children, and lots of Putnam information. 4. Jeremiah M. Fleming b: 26 Apr 1828, married first Harriet Barnett 7 May 1851, then Nancy Elizabeth Watson on 8 May 1866. 5. Cynthe C. Fleming b: 26 Aug 1829, married Benjamin E. Ship. She died 24 Nov 1866. 6. Mariah Catherine Fleming b: 27 Dec 1831, married first Oliver Benjamin Bishop 25 Aug 1850, then Rev. Able Baker. She died 8 July 1918 in Phoenix, Arizona. Judson Shook descends from this line. I'll look up his e-mail address. 7. John McWhorter Fleming, Jr. : 13 Jul 1833 married Margaret Elizaeth Wood on 28 Dec 1853. He died 11 Feb 1921 in Sonora, TX. He is buried in Copperas Creek Cemetery, Kimble Co., TX. 8. Martha Elizabeth Fleming b: 1 May 1835, married first Henry Jones 3 Jun 1852. He died in the Civil War. She then married Eldridge Franks on 8 Feb 1866. 9. Robert Franklin Fleming b: 1 Jul 1836, married Permelia Ann Berry (1837-1914) on 18 Mar 1859. He died 18 June 1913. John McWhorter Fleming (b: 1795) and his travels: 1798 - John moved with family at age 3 from York So., S.C. to Hall Co., GAL. 1820 - Moved to Tuscaloosa, Alabama. 1840 - Left Tuscaloosa, AL, Bethel Church, and moved to Arkansas. 1848 - Moved to Caldwell Co., TX. In this county in 1850 census. 1878 - In Kimble County, TX. 1880 - On census in Kimble County, TX. Died 1882. Would love to hear from others about any additions or corrections. Thanks! Love the group! Lynda Chalk Welch 109 Watauga Drive Waxahachie, TX 972-617-3390