Looking for any information on Isaac Fleming, Sr., b abt 1789 in VA and his descendants. Lived in Augusta, Lewis and Upshur counties VA/WV.

Hi, My local paper, the Saint Paul Pioneer Press, runs a feature called Bulletin Board, that contains an assortment of folksy humorous items called in by readers. Today's offering included the following: Unclear on the concept: Writes AJ's Mom of "Casablanca-by-the-Sea": "When I worked in the downtown bank in St. Paul, the head teller and I were talking about our last names. Hers, it turned out, was Polish. I explained that my maiden name was Flemish. "Her completely serious reply was: 'And where is Flemland?'" BULLETIN BOARD NOTES: Better Flemland than what she probably intended: "And where is Phlegmland?" Bill [email protected]

Just came across this hope somebody can use it Calgary Herald Publication Date: 16-11-98 FLEMING Edward Vernon Fleming passed away at the Foothills Hospital on November 14, 1998 at the age of 71 years. Edward is survived by his former wife Shirley; his three daughters, Sharon (Tony) of Cochrane, as well as Cindy and Pam; and his son Jim (Emily), all of Calgary. He is also survived by one sister June (Alfred) and one brother Bob (Marg). Also survived by his best friend Muriel; and stepchildren Mark (Cheryl), Reg (Peggy) and George (Peggy), all of Calgary; and eleven grandchildren. Edward is predeceased by his mother Emily and father James. Edward Vernon Fleming was a free spirit, filled with wanderlust at an early age. Throughout his working life, this spirit carried him to many places, both near and far. The stories he shared of his experiences abroad were always interesting; the wisdom he gained freely shared. Those who knew him best will miss his unique sense of humour, his willingness to help, and the "your always welcome" feelings he gave. But most of all, they will miss him! To respect the wishes of Edward, there will be no Services. In lieu of floral donations, memorial tributes may be made directly to the charity of the donor's choice. FOSTER'S GARDEN CHAPEL FUNERAL HOME, Directors. Phone: 297-0888. Forever Remembered

Been a while since I posted to the list, but I have been watching and hoping for connections. Since none have turned up I thought I would post my lines again Edward Fleming, resided Kilkenny Ireland. Married MARY unknown, who died in a convent in 1888, after her husband passed on and her kids came to America. They had two known children, maybe more. 1-Maria, born circa 1847, came to America about 1864 settled in Jersey City NJ and had issue by her husband WILLIAM WHELAN. Their daughter Mary was my great grandmother. 2-Gabrielle Fleming- came to America- nothing more is known about her. May have lived in Jersey City. Any help welcome, or even anyone who thinks they may connect to any of this! Jim Miller at [email protected]

Hi Midge and all, I don't know if this info will help, but I have this Sarah in my file: Descendants of Jacob Fleming Generation No. 1 1. JACOB3 FLEMING (JOSEPH2 FLEMAN, STEPHEN1) was born November 1750 in Shrewsbury, Monmouth Co, New Jersey, and died Abt. December 29, 1818 in Dover, Monmouth Co, New Jersey. He married SARAH "SYTJE" WEST Abt. 1772 in Shrewsbury, Monmouth Co, New Jersey, daughter of JAMES WEST and ANN WING. Notes for JACOB FLEMING: Birth and death Source: "Our Heritage" by Arline V. Rickabaugh 1970 First Edition Jacob was a Revolutionary War Patriot Quote from "Our Heritage" by Arline V. Rickabaugh 1970 First Edition: Jacob Fleming is said to have had a farm about 1 1/2 miles below Colts Neck in 1780. By 1782 he was a resident of Dover (now Tom's River), New Jersey. It was here on March 24, 1782 a party of Refugees from New York City captured the local garrison and other residents, including Jacob Fleming. The prisoners were taken to New York and two days later the commander of the garrison, Captain Joshua Huddy was killed by the British on false charges. This event precipitated incidents which directly involved General George Washington, the Continental Congress and the governments of England and France. (EMC: 215 et seq; HOM: 418, SMO: 183)/ A newspaper account of this story appeared in the "New Jersey Gazette", April 20, 1782: "Last Saturday was brought to this place the corpse of Captain Joshua Huddy, who was about 10:00 the day before most barbarously and unwontedly hanged at Middletown Point, by a party of refugees (i.e. Tories). This murder was attended with so much deliberation, injustice and wanton cruelty that circumstances ought to be preserved and made Publick.... Captain Huddy was one of the bravest of men, a fit subject therefore of cowardly inhumanity....Captain Huddy also commanded the troops at the Block House on Toms River, when it was lately reduced. >From Toms River, Captain Huddy, Justice Randolph and the remaining prisoners were taken to New York, where, suffering the various progressions of barbarity, usually exercised upon those who are destined to a violent or lingering death. These 2 gentlemen and Mr. Fleming (Jacob) were put into the hold of the vessel. Captain Huddy was ironed, hand and foot. On Monday a certain John Tilton, refugee, told him 'that he was ordered to be hanged', Huddy asked, "On what charge?" Tilton told him that, 'he took a Philip White, a refugee, cut off both his arms, broke his legs, pulled out one of his eyes and told him to run...' Huddy said, that he could not have done this, he was already a prisoner at the time. Randolph upheld Huddy, and Tilton then told Randolph that he also would be hanged. Along with John Tilton, was Richard Lippincott, a refugee, the instigator of the capture of the men, who it was said had a grudge against Huddy from past grievance. The prisoners were confined to the deck below until the 12th, and were then told to prepare to be hanged. Huddy, being told he was to be hanged, made his Will, on a barrel, upon which he stood, at his hanging. Just before Huddy stepped upon the barrel, he shook hands with Lippincott, and when Lippincott ordered the rope to be pulled, the men were loathed to hang him. Whereupon Lippincott seized the rope himself and strung Huddy, the other men, then joining in." This incident caused such a furor, it resounded 'round the world'. General Washington demanded the surrender of Richard Lippincott. Sir Henry Clinton, Commander-in-Chief, refused to surrender him. Lippincott was acquitted at his trial on the grounds, "only obeying orders." Lippincott was banished to Toronto, Canada died there leaving one daughter. Stephen Fleming, a brother of Jacob, on April 14, 1782, signed a petition to George Washington, as a committee member representing about 400 Monmouth residents, seeking redress for the murder of Captain Huddy. (EMC: 220) On September 1788, Jacob Fleming was named guardian of 'his' six children representing their interest in the estate left them by their grandfather. Jacob took the inventory of Cornelius Vanderveer of Shrewsbury, June 13, 1782. (NJA 35:407). On January 4, 1790 he took inventory of the estate of Martin Vandike of Shrewsbury (NJA 36:238). On April 4, 1793 he witnessed the Will of William Mount of Shrewsbury and took inventory of his estate on the 15th of April (NJA 37:263). Jacob was appointed guardian on March 27, 1792 of Catherine, daughter of David Knott, deceased, of Shrewsbury (NJA 37:218) **See Ann Fleming. The Dutch names indicates that he lived between the region of Shark River and Colts Neck, New Jersey. Jacob Fleming served as both Private and Lieutenant during the Revolutionary War (EMC 232, 236). He was a Second Lieutenant, under Captain Aaron Van Cleves Company, third Regiment, Monmouth Co., New Jersey, in 1776. A First Lieutenant, under Captain Thomas Wainwright Company, third Regiment, 1778, and also served on the Court Martial of David Hampton Company, July and September 1780. Notes for SARAH "SYTJE" WEST: Birth and note Source: "Our Heritage" by Arline V. Rickabaugh 1970 First Edition BIRTH year 1754? Quote from Our Heritage by Arline Rickabaugh 1970. Sarah West was living in FEBRUARY 1788, when her father left her 10 pounds, but by Sept 1788, Jacob Fleming, her husband was made guardian of 'his' six children, with no mention of his wife Sarah. There is no mention of Sarah after this date. Children of JACOB FLEMING and SARAH WEST are: i. JAMES4 FLEMING, SENIOR, b. June 07, 1773, , Monmouth Co, New Jersey; d. November 01, 1857, Pekin, Tazewell Co, Illinois; m. JANE HULSE, December 27, 1794, , Monmouth Co, New Jersey. Notes for JAMES FLEMING, SENIOR: Birth and death Source: "Our Heritage" by Arline V. Rickabaugh 1970 First Edition James Fleming and his wife Jane and at least two of their children removed to Tazewell Co, Illinois from New Jersey in the year 1840. They settled near Spring Lake area of Pekin, Illinois. James left the Bible to Margaret, widow of his son Joseph West, with this note: "May this be remembered than on the 7th day of February, 1857, that I gave this Blessed Holy Bible, to Margaret Fleming, widow of Joseph Fleming, deceased, to hold as her own property, given to her by me, James Fleming, her father-in-law." Notes for JANE HULSE: Birth and death Source: "Our Heritage" by Arline V. Rickabaugh 1970 First Edition Marriage Notes for JAMES FLEMING and JANE HULSE: Marriage Source: "Our Heritage" by Arline V. Rickabaugh 1970 First Edition Source for Children's names and birth dates: 'Fleming Bible', in possession of Frank Fleming in 1977. ii. JOSEPH FLEMING, b. Abt. 1774; m. LYDIA WHITE, 1806. Notes for JOSEPH FLEMING: Name Source: "Our Heritage" by Arline V. Rickabaugh 1970 First Edition Notes for LYDIA WHITE: Name Source: "Our Heritage" by Arline V. Rickabaugh 1970 First Edition iii. STEPHEN W. FLEMING, b. Abt. 1775. iv. SARAH FLEMING, b. Abt. 1776; d. January 1846. v. JOHN WEST FLEMING, b. Abt. 1777; m. JANE THOMPSON, January 17, 1810. vi. JACOB FLEMING, JUNIOR, b. Abt. 1778. Good Hunting, Terry Farran, Gordon

1. I am researching my Fleming/Flemming family roots. My great grandfather was Michael Flemming, born 29 June 1861,County Carlow, Ireland. He immigrated to the US in 1880. His parents were Edward and Catherine(?) Flemming. Family folklore indicates that he was a glassblower in County Carlow. He settled in Mount Carmel, Pennsylvania. He was a miner in Mount Carmel. He left behind three borthers in Ireland: Edward, John, and Joseph. When he first arrived in Mount Carmel he stayed with his paternal Aunt Anna Fleming Nolan. 2. He spelled his surname with two m's. But in America the spelling was changed to one 'm'-- Fleming rather than Flemming. 3. Does someone have information about this Michael Flemming or his family, particularly data viz a viz Ireland? 4. Robert Josephs sends. Email: [email protected]

Hi, It sounds like you tie into the Pocahontas Flemings. They claimed descent from the sixth Lord Fleming of Cumbernauld and Lenzie. I'd have to look that stuff up in my files to go into more detail. Bill

My gggg-grandmother was Sarah (Jane?) Fleming, b. ca. 1776, Virginia. She had married Caleb Garrison by 1795-7, place unknown. The couple lived in Pendleton dist. SC, earliest record of the couple is the 1800 Pendleton Dist. census. they lived in the George's Creek area, across Saluda River from Golden Grove, where other Garrisons. A widow, Elinor Garrison and a James Fleming lived in the vicinity. Elinor Garrison and James Fleming moved to Georgia about the same time as Caleb and Sarah. In 1808, Caleb paid a poll tax for John Fleming; in 1819, he and Wm. D. Fleming bought land from Pliny R. Fleming with James Fleming, a witness. The land description mentioned the "old Wm. Fleming line." The only thing our family knows about Sarah's father was from Caleb and Sarah's daughter, Ann H. Garrison, and quoted down through the family that her grandfather was a Scot; spoke with a heavy burr and was somehow related to Robert the Bruce. Does anyone know who this ggggg-grandfather of mine might be? In Virginia circa 1776? Who was the James Fleming who lived near Sarah and Caleb in SC, then moved to GA about the same time? Who was the fleming Caleb paid tax for in 1808? And who is the Wm. D. Fleming Caleb purchased land with and what was his connection to Sarah? If anyone can shed light on this puzzle, please do so. Many thanks. Midge Garza [email protected]

>> A true story . . . >> >> His name was Fleming, and he was a poor Scottish farmer. One day, >> while trying to eke out a living for his family, he heard a cry for >> help coming from a nearby bog. He dropped his tools and ran to the >> bog. There, mired to his waist in black muck, was a terrified boy, >> screaming and struggling to free himself. >> Farmer Fleming saved the lad from what could have been a slow and >> terrifying death. >> The next day, a fancy carriage pulled up to the Scotsman's sparse >> surroundings. An elegantly dressed nobleman stepped out and introduced >> himself as the father of the boy Farmer Fleming had saved. >> "I want to repay you," said the nobleman. "You saved my son's life." >> "No, I can't accept payment for what I did," the Scottish farmer >> replied, waving off the offer. At that moment, the farmer's own son >> came to the door of the family hovel. >> "Is that your son?" the nobleman asked. >> "Yes," the farmer replied proudly. >> "I'll make you a deal. Let me take him and give him a good education. >> If the lad is anything like his father, he'll grow to a man you can be >> proud of." >> And that he did. In time, Farmer Fleming's son graduated from St. >> Mary's Hospital Medical School in London, and went on to become known >> throughout the world as the noted Sir Alexander Fleming, the >discoverer of >> Penicillin. >> Years afterward, the nobleman's son was stricken with pneumonia. What >> saved him? Penicillin. >> The name of the nobleman? Lord Randolph Churchill. His son's name? >Sir >> Winston Churchill. >> Someone once said what goes around, comes around. Jesus said it >> another way: "Give and it will be given to you, good measure, >pressed down, >> shaken and running over, will be poured into your lap. >> "Everything we fight only weakens us and hinders our ability to see >> the opportunity in the obstacle." >> Make what would work against you, work for you.

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I am looking for family of Benjamin Fleming, born abt 1847 in North Carolina. Married before 1879, Lucinda Watts, born abt 1846. Family stories say she was at least part Cherokee Indian. Linda Hoelscher [email protected]

5th # slaves Looking for info on Joseph O'Brien b. England 1850's supposedly emmigrated to Canada with parents Patrick and Johanna O'Brien about 1859.. married Margaret Currier in Newmarket Ontario 1883 moved to Michigan and then Chicago,Illinosis. Children: Lawrence m. Mary Sullivan NY 1919, Walter m. Della Cuban, Vida m. M. MacKillop, Eva m. Martin Herrmann, jetta m. Edward Church, Emma. Changed spelling along the way to O'Bryan. Possible sibblings or cousins to Joseph: Timothy O'Bryan, Willian, John O'Brien, Francis O'BRIEN BATAVIA NY.

Searching for any information on Elizabeth Fleming, b. Kelso Scotland 5 Aug 1766, m. William Robertson. Emigrated to America Sept/Oct 1793, settled in Cambridge, Washington Co. NY, her father James Fleming. William and Elizabeth had several children: James, George and John Banks daughter Christina m. Chester McClellan, do not have names of other children. William had two brothers James and Patrick, who probably emigrated 1795. Elizabeth d. 12 Sept 1855, William d. 21 May 1824. Both buried in Old Turnpike Graveyard, Cambridge, NY Any assistance appreciated. AChambers

I am searching for the parents/ancestors of William FLEMMING and Mary LAIRD. Known children b bet 1780-1790: William Samuel ma Mary GRIER Laird Beatty ma Jemima HODGES Nancy ma Laird MCMURRAY (my ancestor) Based on the given name of Laird for Nancy's husband, I would guess there was also a LAIRD/McMURRAY marriage somewhere in the past. Does this connect with your line? Please reply to my email address below. Thanks. Claire [email protected]

My great-great grandmother Martha FLEMING. Her parents were: Richard FLEMING b. 12 Nov 1779 Caroline Co. MD m. abt 1806 in Delaware to Parcy or Piercy HARRINGTON who was b. 23 July 1785 in Delaware. They died in Pickaway Co. OH. Searching for proof that Archibald FLEMING b. abt 1750 in somerset Co., Maryland and died in Ross Co. OH is father of Richard. Would like to find family group sheet for Richard and Parcy FLEMING and also for Archibald FLEMING. Grace Alberta McKinley Lisk [email protected]

I am new to this list and I am not connected to the Fleming families. My reason for being here is to try to find information about a Peggy Fleming who was captured by Indians on the Ohio and was seen when she was brought to Upper Sandusky. My area of research is the Cherokee Indians and I would appreciate any information about this happening, verified or not, even old family stories. Thank you for your time, and good hunting, Nancy J. [email protected]

All I Want For Christmas Dear Santa: Don't bring me new dishes; I don't need a new kind of game. Genealogists have peculiar wishes: For Christmas I just want a surname. A new washing machine would be great, But it isn't the desire of my life. I've just found an ancestor's birth date, Now I need the name of his wife. My heart doesn't yearn for a ring That would put a real diamond to shame. What I want is a much cheaper thing: Please give me Martha's last name. To see my heart singing with joy, Don't bring me a red leather suitcase. Bring me a genealogist's toy: A surname, with dates

Sorry I keep forgetting to introduce myself. As time permits I am researching FLEMING in New Zealand and London (90% south of the Thames and occupations associated with the river) and the families that connect into it including: MURPHY - NZ; Cullen, Co Cork, Ire COTTER - NZ; Co Cork, Ire KING - Bermondsey and possibly Ssx and Hants. MORTLEMAN - NZ; Bermondsey and Folkestone, Knt TURNER - Camberwell MASCALL - Camberwell HOBDAY - Mile End Old Town JOHNSON - Bermondsey SHAW - Lambeth LEE - Horselydown McLEAN - Lambeth (Vauxhall) POWELL - Battersea CHALLONER - Wandsworth These surnames all begin their connection roughly 1780s - 1880s. If it's of any use to anyone I also have about 5000 Fleming extractions so far from the GRO records. (ongoing) All South. Are their any other Fleming researchers who have started doing this? Are there any other Fleming researchers!? Best wishes Ruth Tasmania.

My ISP has been down for three days and I am trying to determine what lists I have been dropped from. Please excuse the cross posting.

I have John or Joseph FLEM(M)ING(S) born Missouri, maried Mary KARRING, born in Ireland. Children, Maggie (Margaret) Mary, born 7-9-1872-1876 in St. Louis, one son, name unknown. Father died when Maggie very young, Mother died when she was 9 years old. Whereabouts of brother unknown. Maggie married ROBERT T. BRAUER of St. Louis 1900-1902. He was saddler and maker of leather goods. They had 7 children 2 died, Mary Brauer drowned in Meramec River in 1906. Theodore was stillborn. Other Children are Opal, Corrine, Bernice, Robert, Amelia. Does this connect with any Missouri FLEM(M)ING(S) Regards, Bonnie Apple Valley, Ca. [email protected]