hello list - somewhere in my messages back and forth with listmembers i recall someone with connections to the Ortagus family. i don't remember who is was, but here are the Ortaguses that i noted today while looking for some other names: ST. JOSEPHS CEMETERY (Loretto Rd, Mandarin): Ignatius Ortagus, Died Oct. 22, 1908, Aged 82 years Maryan Ortagus, Died Oct. 25, 1910, Agec 82 years Elizabeth Ortagus, 1848 - 1926 John ortagus, Jan. 10, 1922, Sept. 3, 1903 Herman Ortagus, Apr. 7, 1888, Dec. 6, 1921 Herman Ortagus, Jr., 1916 - 1918 _ _ _ _ (couldn't make out first name) Ortagus, 1810 (?) - 1932 A. Ortagus, 1850 - 198_ (?) Onie Mat Ortagus, May 6, 1923, July 24, 2000 Ortagus - Henry A., Feb. 11, 1924 Theresa A., Feb. 7, 1931 James Ernest Ortagus, Jan. 15, 1915, March 29, 1993 Hattie B. Ortagus, April 6, 1891, Feb. 29, 1968 John Ernest Ortagus, June 24, 1881, June 17, 1942 Ann Elizabeth Ortagus, May 20, 1920, July 23, 2932 hope these names are of help to someone, julie