Dear FLDUVAL Listers: I have received some thirty e-mails regarding information on the Plummers and Hartleys of the ole' "Mandarin" area. - Some have asked for such detailed information as to the actual cabinet, bin number, book number, page number and so on. - It would be impossible for me to consolidate that amount of information into a single e-mail. - I am in the midst of three separate book projects, on my Family History/Genealogy, and just can not answer all of the questions that have been referred to me. - I will answer a few General questions that MAY shed some light on a few of them for the list. 1) In reference to the Lawrence Plummer Farm. - Lawrence did receive the farm from his father, Edward D. Plummer, after his death. - It was located on Haley Road. - Edward was buried on that land in an ole' "Plummer" Family Plot [a piece of land dedicated to family burials]. - Lawrence was also buried in the same plot upon his death - Family interviews [with then living Great Aunts and Uncles confirmed this in the late 1960's]. - These interviews also provided information that there should be "about" 10 or 12 graves within that plot. - Several cousins of mine attended the funeral and burial of Lawrence on that property [I was away in the Military at that time] - Lawrence and his sister Anna Ruby Plummer [neither ever married] lived in the ole' house on the farm until they became frail and in need of nursing care [some time in the mid to late 1950's]. - Anna Ruby Plummer was NOT buried on the ole' home place. - The property was eventually sold and the great "Plummer" burial place mystery began. - Why? - First, as we NOW know, there IS more than ONE "Plummer" Burial place; Second, With every NEW discovery we learn where they [them thar' Plummers] may be located. - From the information that can be gathered from available records, interviews and family lore it would seen that someone appears to have removed those headstones and buried them so as to prepare the land for development. - Who is, or may be, responsible for this action is unknown. - IF this story is "true", then the sudden appearance of Edward D. Plummer's headstone/plaque may be a big clue to making that ole' story more believable. - [I am most anxious to see the photographs that were taken and to hopefully someday know the facts]. 2) In reference to maps: - Yes, there are many maps available for the public to examine and have copies made. - I do not know of any of these, that I have examined in the past, being "online". - That would be a great project for one of the Two Genealogical Societies in Jacksonville. - There are a few available through the real property recording section of the Duval County Court House [you must known how to find the Township and Range number so as to locate a map large enough to show a decent area of home/farm clusters]. - The best maps are located at the Florida State Archives, in Tallahassee. - These maps are the original "hand drawn - hand colored" maps prepared by the original surveys [with hand written margin notes]. - These maps date anywhere from 1833 through 1900 and are excellent maps to show neighboring farms, property, and help to show HOW families could have been formed [Boy meets Girl etc.]. - Ask for the Historical Map Collection and be prepared to provide the Township and Range numbers. - I have made some twenty different trips to Tallahassee over the past ten years just to get copies of these beautiful maps. 3) In reference to Towns, villages, communities etc: Remember! "Dear Genealogist's and Family Historians", we must "Put" ourselves in the time and period of the person asking, telling and /or recording the information that we are NOW researching. - Six or more farms side-by-side could or did make a community THEN. - A few more communities and/or farms added could suddenly become a Town or Village, and the name of the oldest or "First" to settle could or more often DID name the NEW Village. - Prior to the Civil War [Uh! War Between the States] the area that all of the people of Jacksonville call "Mandarin" was really many small communities and/or clusters of farms with separate names and identities. - Today there are many ole' timers who will get very angry if you call their community "Mandarin". - History has a way of fading with each NEW generation. - Some, but not all of the ole' maps will sometimes show the location of these older communities. As I can find the time I will try to prepare a list of items of this nature and post it to the FLDUVAL list. - Do not look for it in the very near future. - I will eventually get to the task. Thank you, and I hope this will answer a few of the more general questions that have been put to me. Cordially, RCS