ok, my fuzzy little brain needs some clarification; 1. Edward Daniel Plummer's wife was Mahala F. Hartley. was it Mahala F. Hartley Plummer, or was it Mahala F. _________ and after Edward died she married one of the Hartleys? 2. are the people who found the grave marker assuming that edward is not buried in the vicinity of the marker? 3. has anyone been able to determine yet where Lawrence Plummer's farm was? 4. is the assumption that the place where the grave marker was found is not where edward is actually buried? it will be interesting to see who's names are on those grave markers that your friend took pictures of down by the buckman bridge. the "listing" of grave markers that is on the Tombstone Transcription page doesn't have any Plummers which is kinda odd since it is called the "Plummer Family Cemetery." perhaps, if for some reason mahala (and edward) aren't buried where they found the grave marker, she (or both of them) are buried in the plummer family cemetery. here's another thought. in lucy ames edwards' "Grave Markers of Duval County...", she mentions the "William Plummer Family Plot" as "the burial ground for the family of William and June Hartley Plummer. It is located on the south end of Plummers Cove, on the banks of the St. Johns River. It may be reached from Jacksonville by taking the Mandarin road." (this is the one that i believe is next to the buckman bridge.) she also mentions the "Edward D. Plummer Family Plot." the page, so i'm told, is titled "Plummer Family Plot", but she gives only the information on Edward D. Plummer's stone and says, "At that time it was on Lawrence Plummer's farm. It may be reached from Jacksonville by taking the Mandarin road." another thought; i always thought "the mandarin road" was San Jose Blvd (sr 13), and it probably was. of the roads leading off of san jose one used to be the road to the lawrence plummer farm. (my guess here would be haley rd or oak bluff ln.) julie ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 7:41 AM Subject: [FLDUVAL] re: Hartley According to a recent discovery, the wife of Edward Daniel Plummer was Mahala F. Hartley. The CSA grave marker for Edward D Plummer has been found in the rear of a residence in Mandarin. The search is on for the "correct" final resting spot. Jon R. Ferguson

According to a recent discovery, the wife of Edward Daniel Plummer was Mahala F. Hartley. The CSA grave marker for Edward D Plummer has been found in the rear of a residence in Mandarin. The search is on for the "correct" final resting spot. Jon R. Ferguson

good morning list - to those researching the HARTLEY surname, there are two buried in the craig swamp (aka phillips) cemetery on old st. augustine rd: Frances Hartley, d. Jan 5, 1913, age 19 Joseph Alex Hartley, d. 1907, Pvt. Co. I, 10th Fla Inf julie

i am looking for Harriett, whose email address used to be [email protected] please contact me. thanks, julie thames howell jax, fla

some time back, wasn't someone on the duval list looking for the surname BRASEALE? if so, please contact me. thanks, julie thames howell jax, fla

hi everyone - please make the following notations on your copies of our list of cemeteries/burial sites: Bigelow Cemetery - a survey has been done on this one Ferreira - a survey has been done on this cemetery Hysler - this cemetery is said to be in the southwest corner of duval county on navy property. maps show the whittaker cemetery to be on navy property, although the perimeter road and west boundary fence of cecil field stop quite a bit before whittaker cemetery. still, the question remains; are whittaker (aka Mt. Zion Cemetery) and hysler the same cemetery? Palm Springs Cemetery - a survey has just been finished on this one Parrish Family Cemetery, Parrish Cemetery Road (south of Normandy Blvd). please add this one to your list print-outs. i inadvertently left it off when i typed the lists that y'all received. Parsons Cemetery - a survey has been done on this one Smith Cemetery - a survey is done on this Stone Cemetery - a heartbreaking history has been received on this little cemetery, about tombstones having been pushed into the creek some years back in order to build a house. any and all of the information that i've accumulated from you folks is available at any time; via email, photocopies, whatever. some of it i've got on disks, other material i can photocopy and mail to you. eventually all of this info should wind up on the Florida/Duval page of the Tombstone Transcription Project. if you want to see something really neat, go to this site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~cemetery/florida/duval.htm and see the wonderful work that has been done by subscribers to our rootsweb lists. the number of cemeteries that are having surveys published is GREAT!

----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2001 4:59 PM Subject: Re: taglines Julie Ask all you want, I cannot remove the taglines from your acct. Rootsweb adds its own tagline at the end of the email, and mine are added automatically. I choose not to delete the taglines that I use. If you do not want them on your email, then you will have to unsubscribe from the list. Dianne thank you, dianne, for your response. however, i must ask that you remove any taglines from any email that i originate. should i choose to incorporate a tagline into my signature it should be of my choosing and not an expression of someone else's. if rootsweb tags everyone's mail with the fl-ne-cemetery or fl-duval tag, then that, i suppose, will have to remain. thanks again for your response. julie

thank you, dianne, for your response. however, i must ask that you remove any taglines from any email that i originate. should i choose to incorporate a tagline into my signature it should be of my choosing and not an expression of someone else's. if rootsweb tags everyone's mail with the fl-ne-cemetery or fl-duval tag, then that, i suppose, will have to remain. thanks again for your response. julie ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2001 4:26 PM Subject: taglines Julie, The taglines that you see on Jon's posts, as well as on every other person's post (including yours and mine) on the Cemetery list, are mine. I set them as the Administrator of the list. I have a rotating set of 10 that I change periodically. Each individual may have their personal tagline set up as a signature through their own email but it will show before the mail list taglines. The mailing list taglines are always prefaced by the ==FL-NE-Cemetery Mailing List== header. Dianne example: ==== FL-NE-CEMETERY Mailing List ==== CONTUMULATION is the sharing of a grave or a tomb. For some embattled relatives, the state of being closer in death than in life. ============================== and: ==== FL-NE-CEMETERY Mailing List ==== CORTEGE means "funeral procession" & is intended to jack up the status of the deceased. ============================== hey, jon - i've been trying to figure out how to get a "tag" line at the end of my email messages (like the way your messages say "fl-ne-cemetery mailing list...contumulation is the sharing, etc.") but i haven't figured out how to get my email set up to do that. how did you get yours set up? julie

i responded on both the flduval and flnecemetery lists because some "subscribers" do not belong to both lists any longer, but wish to stay informed of progress made on the cemetery project. what list(s) i choose to respond to, i believe, are my choice. i have also expressed the desire, on any number of occasions, that everyone's work should be included, since this is a collaborative effort. and i can assure you that i have no problems with you nor with my underwear. julie ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2001 1:59 PM Subject: [FL-NE-Cem] Re: [FLDUVAL] ATTN: Duval County Burial Sites Julie Where I come from people would say that you have your undies in a knot. <grin> I began the cemetery mailing list to get it off of the Duval Co mailing list because of a conflict of interest, and there I have stayed. All cemetery communications shall be answered ONLY on the cemetery list from this point on. I have not missed your posts. I congratulate you on the work that you and Tony have added to the collaborative effort of the entire Cemetery List. If you already have driving directions to each of the cemeteries on your posted list, then another kudo is in order. I have stated that I will be publishing the information that I have collected thus far later today. That way, you and others can use it as another source of information. We can and should use all resources and double check to make certain that the final lists are in agreement. Prehaps you should email me off list if you have problems with my suggestions. Sincerely Dianne Johnson FL-NE-Cemetery List Owner/Administrator > > > dianne - did you miss my posts to the list(s) on thursday, june 7th? i > did post, in two parts, a full accounting of the cemeteries that, with the > gracious help of everyone on our lists, we had compiled information on. on > both of those lists (our list of cemeteries is so long that i posted it in > "part 1" and "part 2") i indicated the cemeteries that we actually had, in > our possession, surveys typed for. in my preface to the list of cemeteries > and burial sites i indicated that the driving directions, for the present > time, had been left off because the purpose of the initial posting was > simply to confirm the sites themselves and any "aka" names for some of the > burial sites. it was noted on that message that driving directions would > be added later so that our working list of known cemeteries and burial > sites would be more complete. we are all very aware that some cemeteries > may have already been surveyed twice. on our recent list (parts 1 and 2) i > noted when we had copie! > s of multiple surveys. we also already have driving directions to each of > the cemeteries on our posted list. > > to whom have you already mailed a list to be typed and published? is the > typist also doing the publishing? where is it to be published? perhaps > posting an "open list" of the cemeteries-burial sites that you have > collected to the flduval and flnecemetery lists would be a good idea. > > we have all been working very hard for many months to coordinate a complete > and concise "directory" of all known cemeteries and burial sites in duval > county, complete with driving directions, surveys, and histories when > available. our project is coming together quite nicely. > > julie thames howell > ==== FL-NE-CEMETERY Mailing List ==== OSSUARY: The elegant way to say "bone-pit" or "charnel house". ============================== Visit Ancestry's Library - The best collection of family history learning and how-to articles on the Internet. http://www.ancestry.com/learn/library

Julie Where I come from people would say that you have your undies in a knot. <grin> I began the cemetery mailing list to get it off of the Duval Co mailing list because of a conflict of interest, and there I have stayed. All cemetery communications shall be answered ONLY on the cemetery list from this point on. I have not missed your posts. I congratulate you on the work that you and Tony have added to the collaborative effort of the entire Cemetery List. If you already have driving directions to each of the cemeteries on your posted list, then another kudo is in order. I have stated that I will be publishing the information that I have collected thus far later today. That way, you and others can use it as another source of information. We can and should use all resources and double check to make certain that the final lists are in agreement. Prehaps you should email me off list if you have problems with my suggestions. Sincerely Dianne Johnson FL-NE-Cemetery List Owner/Administrator > > > dianne - did you miss my posts to the list(s) on thursday, june 7th? i > did post, in two parts, a full accounting of the cemeteries that, with the > gracious help of everyone on our lists, we had compiled information on. on > both of those lists (our list of cemeteries is so long that i posted it in > "part 1" and "part 2") i indicated the cemeteries that we actually had, in > our possession, surveys typed for. in my preface to the list of cemeteries > and burial sites i indicated that the driving directions, for the present > time, had been left off because the purpose of the initial posting was > simply to confirm the sites themselves and any "aka" names for some of the > burial sites. it was noted on that message that driving directions would > be added later so that our working list of known cemeteries and burial > sites would be more complete. we are all very aware that some cemeteries > may have already been surveyed twice. on our recent list (parts 1 and 2) i > noted when we had copie! > s of multiple surveys. we also already have driving directions to each of > the cemeteries on our posted list. > > to whom have you already mailed a list to be typed and published? is the > typist also doing the publishing? where is it to be published? perhaps > posting an "open list" of the cemeteries-burial sites that you have > collected to the flduval and flnecemetery lists would be a good idea. > > we have all been working very hard for many months to coordinate a complete > and concise "directory" of all known cemeteries and burial sites in duval > county, complete with driving directions, surveys, and histories when > available. our project is coming together quite nicely. > > julie thames howell >

dianne - did you miss my posts to the list(s) on thursday, june 7th? i did post, in two parts, a full accounting of the cemeteries that, with the gracious help of everyone on our lists, we had compiled information on. on both of those lists (our list of cemeteries is so long that i posted it in "part 1" and "part 2") i indicated the cemeteries that we actually had, in our possession, surveys typed for. in my preface to the list of cemeteries and burial sites i indicated that the driving directions, for the present time, had been left off because the purpose of the initial posting was simply to confirm the sites themselves and any "aka" names for some of the burial sites. it was noted on that message that driving directions would be added later so that our working list of known cemeteries and burial sites would be more complete. we are all very aware that some cemeteries may have already been surveyed twice. on our recent list (parts 1 and 2) i noted when we had copie! s of multiple surveys. we also already have driving directions to each of the cemeteries on our posted list. to whom have you already mailed a list to be typed and published? is the typist also doing the publishing? where is it to be published? perhaps posting an "open list" of the cemeteries-burial sites that you have collected to the flduval and flnecemetery lists would be a good idea. we have all been working very hard for many months to coordinate a complete and concise "directory" of all known cemeteries and burial sites in duval county, complete with driving directions, surveys, and histories when available. our project is coming together quite nicely. julie thames howell jax, fla ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2001 5:18 AM Subject: [FLDUVAL] ATTN: Duval County Burial Sites Julie and Lists I must mention that I have a good number of surveys already that need typing. I have volunteers lined up to do that. Also, I have driving directions as well as gps locations on all cemeteries on your list, as well as the ones that you do not have. I have already mailed this list to be typed and published. Please coordinate the surveys by typing on an open list post so that there will be no wasted efforts repeating work that has already been done. There are also a good number of individuals that have already completed surveys of their own. So now would be a good time for everyone to send an open message to the list so that we can pull the project together! I appreciate all that everyone is doing in trying to get the surveys posted and the cemeteries recognized by the City and State Governments. Thanks Dianne Johnson FL-NE-Cemetery List Owner/Administrator

Julie and Lists I must mention that I have a good number of surveys already that need typing. I have volunteers lined up to do that. Also, I have driving directions as well as gps locations on all cemeteries on your list, as well as the ones that you do not have. I have already mailed this list to be typed and published. Please coordinate the surveys by typing on an open list post so that there will be no wasted efforts repeating work that has already been done. There are also a good number of individuals that have already completed surveys of their own. So now would be a good time for everyone to send an open message to the list so that we can pull the project together! I appreciate all that everyone is doing in trying to get the surveys posted and the cemeteries recognized by the City and State Governments. Thanks Dianne Johnson FL-NE-Cemetery List Owner/Administrator

good morning everyone - on the lists that i sent out yesterday, please make two changes: 1. on St. Nicholas Cemetery #2 - please make a note that i have two surveys, not just one. 2. on Turknett Cemetery - i neglected to indicate that i have a survey on this cemetery. please make that change on your list. also, in a couple of places, cemetery names ran together as a result of getting the names arranged on the pages. if you wish to have me send you a new list with the spacing corrected please email me privately and i'll be happy to send you one. before too long i will include, on the list, driving directions to these cemeteries but, for right now, i want everyone to get back to me with any additions, corrections, etc. that you have so we can, together, compile an accurate list of the cemeteries and burial sites in duval county. i've heard back from some of you already with some information, and look forward to getting additional notes from some more of you guys. i would especially like to hear your ideas on those cemeteries where i've asked for clarification of "a/k/a" names. i would like to see surveys done for each of these cemeteries so that we can get every one of these listed on the duval page of the Florida Tombstone Transcription Project. there are about 29 surveys already done on the cemeteries on our list. these surveys are either already available on the duval page of the FTTP, or will be soon. thanks again for all of your help and input, julie

here's the second half. thanks, julie CEMETERIES and BURIAL SITES - Duval County, Florida Part 2 Kingsley Plantation Cemetery Kingsley Plantation, Fl (Lee) Kirkland Cemetery Beach Boulevard, Jacksonville Beach, Fl Mandarin Cemetery Mandarin Road, Jacksonville, Fl (have partial survey) Manning Cemetery Manning Cemetery Road, Jacksonville, Fl (have survey) Mayport Cemetery (aka Pablo Cemetery) Wonderwood Lane, Mayport, Fl (have survey) Memorial Cemetery (aka Pinehurst Cemetery) Moncrief Road (sections are both east and west of Restlawn Drive), Jacksonville, Fl Midway Tabernacle Missionary Baptist Church Family Cemetery (aka Arlington Cemetery) Shackleton Road, Jacksonville, Fl (New) Mt. Herman Cemetery Restlawn Drive, Jacksonville, Fl (Old) Mt. Herman Cemetery 6th Street, W., Jacksonville, Fl (have survey) Mt. Olive Cemetery 45th Street at Castellano Avenue, Jacksonville, Fl Mt. Pleasant Baptist Church Cemetery - see St. Nicholas Cemetery #3 Mt. Pleasant Cemetery Moncrief Road, Jacksonville, Fl Mt. Zion AME Church Cemetery (Black) (aka Mt. Olive Cemetery) Vinson Lane, Jacksonville, Fl (have survey) Mt. Zion Baptist Cemetery (Black) Pine Street, Jacksonville, Fl (have survey) Mt. Zion Baptist Church Cemetery (Beach Bld) - see St. Nicholas Cemetery #2 Mt. Zion Church Cemetery (Nathan Hale Rd) - see Whittaker Cemetery Mt. Zion Cemetery (Black) (aka Lone Star Cemetery) Off Mill Creek Road, Jacksonville, Fl (have survey) (New) Mt. Zion Holiness Church Cemetery (Black) (might this cemetery or the above may Greenland Cem?) Pine Street, Jacksonville, Fl (have survey) McCormick Cemetery (aka Cosmo Cemetery) McCormick Road, Jacksonville, Fl (have survey) McMillan Avenue Cemetery property McMillan Avenue, Jacksonville, Fl Moody's Cemetery - see Camp Moody Cemetery New Berlin Cemetery (aka Balsam Cemetery) (is this the same cemetery as Bethel AME Church Cemetery on Lowery Ave , 3 blocks away ?) Irving Road, Jacksonville, Fl (have survey) Oaklawn Cemetery San Jose Boulevard, Jacksonville, Fl Ogilvie Cemetery Hargett Road, Jacksonville, Fl Old City Cemetery (aka Willey Cemetery) Union Street (at Washington Street), Jacksonville, Fl Pablo Cemetery - see Mayport Cemetery Palm Springs Cemetery Ft. Caroline Road, Jacksonville, (Cosmo), Fl Parson's Cemetery Cove St. Johns Road, E., Jacksonville, Fl Philips Cemetery - see Craig Swamp Cemetery Pickett Cemetery (aka Lem Turner Cemetery) Calvin Road, Jacksonville, Fl (have survey) Pinkston Cemetery Old Plank Road, Jacksonville, Fl MJT Plonk Property (Gravesite) (plat maps show this as an approx 81 acre parcel with a notation on the plat, "1 acre somewhere in here. Grave". The 1 acre has a separate parcel number from the 81 acres) Lane Avenue, Jacksonville, Fl Plummer Family Cemetery Scott Mill Road (?), Jacksonville, Fl (have survey) Plunk Cemetery (this is a small, rectangular cemetery plot within the confines of Westview Cemetery) Pickettville Road (formerly Pickett Cemetery Road), Jacksonville, Fl Rain Cemetery Mt. Pleasant Road, Jacksonville, Fl Restlawn Cemetery Ribault Scenic Drive at Restlawn Drive, Jacksonville, Fl Riverside Memorial Park (includes Gravely Hill Cemetery) Normandy Boulevard at Memorial Park Road, Jacksonville, Fl Riverside Memorial Park (includes Chapel Hills Memorial Gardens) St. Johns Bluff Road, Jacksonville, Fl Roberts Cemetery Leonard Circle, E., Jacksonville, Fl (New) St. James Baptist Church Cemetery Elinor Road, Jacksonville, Fl (have survey) St. Joseph's Catholic Cemetery Loretto Road, Jacksonville, Fl (have partial survey) St. Joseph's Catholic Cemetery - see Old City Cemetery St. Mary's Catholic Cemetery - see Evergreen Cemetery St. Nicholas Cemetery # 1 Olive Street, Jacksonville, Fl St. Nicholas Cemetery # 2 (aka Mt. Zion Baptist Church Cemetery) (plat maps show a black section and a white section) Beach Boulevard, Jacksonville, Fl (have survey) St. Nicholas Cemetery # 3 (aka Mt. Pleasant Baptist Church Cemetery, aka Live Oak Cemetery) Atlantic Boulevard, Jacksonville, Fl Sammis Cemetery - see Clifton Cemetery Sellers Cemetery Halsema Road, Jacksonville, Fl Singleton Cemetery - see Tillotson Cemetery Sloans Landing Cemetery - see Hagin Cemetery Smith Family Cemetery Cemetery Road at Como Road (formerly Jenkins Road), Jacksonville, Fl Warren Smith Cemetery Beach Boulevard, Jacksonville Beach, Fl (have partial survey) Springfield Advent Christian Church Cemetery (aka Lindsley Cemetery ?) 17th Street, W., Jacksonville, Fl (have survey) Starratt Cemetery Capstan Drive, Jacksonville, Fl (have survey) Stone Cemetery (aka Bessent Family Cemetery) Dexter Drive, N., (off of Bessent Road), Jacksonville, Fl Talbot Island Cemetery - see Tillotson Family Cemetery (aka Singleton Cemetery) Girvin Road, Jacksonville, Fl Tison's Dunn's Creek Cemetery - see Dunn's Creek Cemetery Trinity Baptist Church Cemetery (aka Gethsemane Memorial Gardens) Hammond Boulevard, Jacksonville, Fl Turknett Cemetery (aka Daniels-Turknett Cemetery) Daniel Terrace, Jacksonville, Fl Upton Cemetery - see Baldwin Piney Grove Cemetery Westview Cemetery Pickettville Road (formerly Pickett Cemetery Road), Jacksonville, Fl Whitaker Cemetery (aka Mt. Zion Church Cemetery) (is this, possibly, also Hysler Cemetery ?) Nathan Hale Road, Jacksonville, Fl Willey Cemetery - see Old City Cemetery Wingate Cemetery (is this also possibly Gillan or Gillian Cemetery ?) Arnold Road at Pecan Park Road, Jacksonville, Fl Woodlawn Cemetery - see Evergreen Cemetery Yukon Cemetery (Black) Avent Drive, Jacksonville, Fl ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Miscellaneous sites Acosta Cemetery - Secondina Street off Main Street Cemetery off of Faye Road somewhere past Eastport Road ? Duval County Hospital Cemetery - possibly located adjacent to the "Old" City Cemetery Fulton Cemetery - said in "Grave Markers of Duval County" to be at the dead end of Fulton Road; "two graves close to the river." I've found an interesting plot of property at what would have been the dead end many years ago that is very fenced off (complete with double gate, chained and locked.) Grave on St. Johns Bluff - "Grave Markers of Duval County" apparently puts this grave at, on, or slightly past the National Park. Heidi Road/Kaden Drive (plat map shows the property at this location to be a cemetery. The property is occupied by houses but the back property line area cannot be seen from the street.) Idlewild - Lucy Ames Edwards, "Grave Markers of Duval County" puts this site turning left (somewhere) off Girvin Road on a farm that was formerly on the old Jacksonville, Mayport and Pablo Railroad. Knight's Cemetery - "Grave Markers of Duval County" gives directions as, (from the Dinsmore Community) "turn right on Garden Street. Go about four miles to Fiegle Dairy on the left of the highway." This could be the cemetery that folks have been calling the "Garden City Cemetery" and the "cemetery at Fiegel Dairy." (Old) Plummer Cemetery - off Lane Ave near Pickettville (email message says a chemical plant was built on this property Rolac Street (an email message from L. Moody said he thought he remembered a cemetery on Rolac or the first street north of Rolac.) Revolutionary Soldier's Grave - Per "Grave Markers of Duval County" this is "a small plot in a grove of trees on a bank above the Beauclerc Road." Woodsong Loop Road/Beacon Drive property (plat map shows 2 small cemeteries on property line) between Beacon Drive and Woodsong Loop Road, Jacksonville, Fl

hi everyone - i am hoping that rootsweb will allow the size of this message. i have compiled a list that i will send to you in two parts. this is the first part; watch for the 2nd. i have gone through my notebook and have listed all of the cemeteries, IN DUVAL COUNTY, that i have something on. (other counties may follow later.) it could be a photocopy of the plat of the cemetery or burial site, a print out of the tax record, or a survey transcription. in some cases i have each of those for a cemetery or burial site. this information has come from dozens of sources...messages from the duval and cemetery mailing lists that i've saved for the past several years, private emails and telephone conversations with folks, personal research, etc. etc. this is a collaborative effort! the list is arranged alphabetically and, behind each entry, is the name or names the cemetery might also be known by. HERE'S WHAT I NEED FROM Y'ALL. please print the lists out (both of them) and go through them. let me know if you have any information on these that needs to be included, or if you have any corrections to what i have. this list certainly isn't perfect and nothing is "engraved in stone" ('scuse the terrible pun.) I REALLY NEED AND WANT YOUR INPUT ON THESE CEMETERY-SITE LISTS so that we can get all of our county information to the Duval page of the Florida Tombstone Transcription Project. i really appreciate everyone's help on these. thanks, julie thames howell jax, fla CEMETERIES and BURIAL SITES - Duval County, Florida African Methodist Episcopal Church Cemetery (aka Lofton Cemetery, aka"The Old Graveyard Lot") Westberry Road, Jacksonville, Fl Ahavath Chesed Cemetery - see Evergreen Cemetery Anderson Cemetery Cedar Point Road, Jacksonville, Fl (have survey) Arlington Cemetery - see Midway Tabernacle Missionary Baptist Church Family Cemetery Arlington Memorial Park Cemetery - Also includes Etz Chaim Memorial Gardens (aka Arlington Park Cemetery, aka Arlington Community Cemetery) Lone Star Road, Jacksonville, Fl Baldwin Piney Grove Cemetery (Black and White sections) (aka Upton Cemetery ?) First Street, Baldwin, Fl Balsam Cemetery - see New Berlin Cemetery Beaches Memorial Gardens Memorial Drive, Atlantic Beach, Fl Bethel AME Church Cemetery Lowery Avenue, (New Berlin), Jacksonville, Fl Bethel Baptist Church Cemetery Stonemont Street, Jacksonville, Fl Bessent Family Cemetery - see Stone Cemetery Bigelow Cemetery Floral Bluff Avenue, Jacksonville, Fl Borden Cemetery (Black) (aka Little Christian Home Society Cemetery) Plant Lane (off of Plant Road), Jacksonville, Fl (have survey) Bowden Cemetery (probable site of) Bowden Road, Jacksonville, Fl Bowles Cemetery (aka Eubank Cemetery, aka Dees Landing Cemetery) Deese Road (off of Yellow Bluff Road, Jacksonville, Fl (have survey) (The Old) Brick Church Cemetery Church site was on Church St (formerly Old Black Creek Rd) just W of Myrtle Ave Cemetery site was "of considerable size just to the south of it" Jacksonville, Fl Broward Cemetery Off Harts Road, Jacksonville, Fl Broward Pulaski Cemetery Just south of Nassau Sound and east of Samples Creek, Jacksonville, Fl Browne Cemetery Theodore Roosevelt Preserve, Mt. Pleasant Road, Jacksonville, Fl Brunson Family Cemetery (Black) (aka Marietta Cemetery ?) Greeland Avenue, Jacksonville, Fl Cameron Cemetery (aka Gilmore Community Cemetery) Rio Cove Road, Jacksonville, Fl (have survey) Camp Moody Cemetery (aka Captain Moody Cemetery) Ellis Road, Jacksonville, Fl Chapel Hills Memory Gardens Oakwood Street, Jacksonville, Fl Chapel Hills Memorial Gardens - see Riverside Memorial Park Cemetery (St. Johns Bluff Road) Chaseville Road Baptist Church Cemetery (Black) (aka Jacksonville University Cemetery, aka Chaseville Cemetery) University Boulevard (formerly Chaseville Road), Jacksonville, Fl Church of Our Savior (Episcopal) Mandarin Road, Jacksonville, Fl (have survey) Clifton Cemetery (aka Sammis Cemetery) Magnolia Avenue and Noble Circle, S., Jacksonville, Fl (have survey) Cosmo Cemetery - see McCormick Cemetery Craig Swamp Cemetery (aka Philips Cemetery) Old St. Augustine Road, Jacksonville, Fl (have survey) Daniels Cemetery - see Turknett Cemetery Deese Cemetery Off of Solomon Road, Jacksonville, Fl Dinsmore Community Cemetery (White) (said to be a Black cemetery adjacent to the north) Old Kings Road, Jacksonville, Fl Dixie Pythian Cemetery - see Greenlawn Cemetery Dunn's Creek Cemetery Dunn Creek Cemetery Road (formerly Powell Rd), Jacksonville, Fl Duval County Paupers Cemetery Winton Drive at McMillan Avenue off of Moncrief Road, Jacksonville, Fl Edgewood Cemetery Edgewood Avenue, Jacksonville, Fl Episcopal Cathedral (St. Johns) Market Street, Jacksonville, Fl Etz Chaim Cemetery - see Arlington Memorial Park Cemetery Eubanks Cemetery - see Bowles Cemetery Evergreen Cemetery (Includes Woodlawn Cemetery, St. Mary's Catholic Cemetery, Ahavath Chesed Cemetery, Jacksonville Jewish Center Cemetery) Main Street, Jacksonville, Fl Ferreira Cemetery Starratt Road Gethsemane Memorial Gardens - see Trinity Baptist Church Cemetery Gilmore Community Cemetery - see Cameron Cemetery Gravely Hills Cemetery - see Riverside Memorial Park Cemetery (Normandy Blvd at Memorial Park Rd) Greenlawn Cemetery (includes Dixie Pythian Cemetery) Beach Boulevard, Jacksonville, Florida Greenwood Cemetery (Poss location) Moncrief Road, Jacksonville, Fl Hagin Cemetery (aka Sloans Landing Cemetery) Dogwood Hill Drive, Jacksonville, Fl (have survey) Houston Family Cemetery Houston Avenue, Jacksonville, Fl Jacksonville University Cemetery - see Chaseville Road Baptist Church Cemetery Jacksonville Jewish Center Cemetery - see Evergreen Cemetery Jerusalem Baptist Church (Black) Flesher Avenue, Jacksonville, Fl (have survey) Jones/McCormick Cemetery Magill Road, Jacksonville, Fl Julington Baptist Church Cemetery Julington Creek Road, Jacksonville, Fl (have partial survey) Lindsley Cemetery - see Springfield Advent Christian Cemetery Little Children's Christian Home Society Cemetery - see Borden Cemetery Live Oak Cemetery - see St. Nicholas Cemetery #3 Lofton Cemetery - see African Methodist Episcopal Cemetery Lone Star Cemetery - see Mt. Zion Cemetery (off Mill Creek Rd)

hi everyone - i am very pleased to announce that the cemetery surveys that i've worked on for what seems eons are now posted on the Rootsweb Tombstone Transcription pages and can be shared with so many folks reesarching in our area. a couple of the cemeteries have photos that can be viewed. i intend to send in more pictures of the cemeteries so that people can see what the cemeteries look like. please visit the following urls and see if any of the surnames are folks you may have been looking for: Buford Grove Baptist Church Cemetery, Hilliard, Nassau County, Florida ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/fl/nassau/cemetery/buford.txt Church of Our Savior (Episcopal), Jacksonville, Fl has photos ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/fl/duval/cemetery/savior.txt Julington Baptist Church Cemetery (partial), Jacksonville, Fl has photos ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/fl/duval/cemetery/julington.txt McCormick Cemetery/Cosmo Cemetery, Jacksonville, Fl ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/fl/duval/cemetery/mccormick.txt Mandarin Cemetery, Jacksonville, Fl (partial) ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/fl/duval/cemetery/mandarin.txt Manning Cemetery, Jacksonville, Fl ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/fl/duval/cemetery/manning.txt (Old) Mt. Herman Cemetery, Jacksonville, Fl ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/fl/duval/cemetery/mtherman.txt St. Joseph's Cemetery, Jacksonville, Florida (lookups only) This cemetery wishes not to publish its list of burials. However, the head of the church's cemetery commission has said that researchers can email me privately and i can pass their request along to a member of their cemetery commission who can do look-ups on an individual basis. Sloan's Landing (aka Hagin Cemetery), Jacksonville, Fl ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/fl/duval/cemetery/sloans.txt y'all have a nice evening, julie thames howell jax, fla

Hi Listers, I live in Pennsylvania and I would like to retrieve some obituaries from Jacksonville. I need to go back into the 1940's for a few and as late as 1992 for others. What is the best game plan for doing this? I think I have reliable death dates for the people in question. Will the public library perform newspaper obit searches? Will the Times-Union respond to such a request. Their website only contains obits back to 1997. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Dave _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

Thank you to all the persons who responded to my inquiry on the above subject. It is nice to have an extra helping hand when needed. Please accept my thanks. Judy Rollins, St. Augustine

"All grave sites must be afforded equal protection under the law without preference to color,creed or religious beliefs" How can someone be so ignorant as to think that "dead people have no history"? We all have a past, and it exists - even long after we have been returned to the earth. I am afraid that too many people have too little regard for 'the dead'. Prehaps like everything else in our society the views are changing. How many families take the time to go to cemeteries where their ancestors are buried and to lay fresh flowers and clean the graves? All too often, for varying reasons, it is left to the care of the cemetery. Perpetual Care Cemeteries. Perhaps because we are a transient society we have neglected to instill traditions and obligations and respect in our newer generation. I don't know the answers. As a "Devils Advocate" I can bring up this argument- that graveyards take up a LOT of ground. Our world is over populated as it is... maybe a more efficient way to deal with our human remains should be approached. Precious land lies "useless" growing grass and holding caskets and sporting weathered headstones.The land could surely be put to better use. I wonder if that is the direction that the world is moving in? Ya'll remember- the above statements are not necessarily the view of the author!! Well, enough unconnected news from me today. Dianne > Like you I do not understand how someone can destroy a cemetery and think > nothing of it. I was discussing with a friend not to long back, about a > historical cemetery in our home town that was going to be destroyed for a > church. My friend felt that they should build a church on the site > because, > in her words "a church benefits everyone and dead people have no history > and > they don't benefit anyone." Now don't get me wrong, churches are a good > thing, but for her to think that "dead people have no history and do not > benefit anyone" was just too much! Some people have no intelligence! Good > news the church is going to pick another site to build and keep the > cemetery > as it is. However I did wonder....... If it had been her ansesters in > that > cemetery would she have had different feelings about it being distroyed? > She > stated that she would not, her feelings would have been the same, but I do > wonder.... >

like you, my spontaneous side stamped its little foot and shouted, "how could they?" and my logical side (they argue perpetually) said, "well, she must really believe that when the body dies the soul goes on and, after all, dirt is dirt." i'm afraid the "dirt is dirt" approach wins all too often. but, to me, cemeteries - like funerals - are for the living. obviously once someone has died they don't care about earthly things. it is the living who go on and their ancestors who try to fit together bits and pieces of family information so that we can feel more whole; so that we can feel, in an eartly sense, like we belong to something that was, and is, and will be for many years to come. belonging is comforting. and your friend's statements speak volumes about how she feels. good for the church for picking another site. julie ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 12:34 AM Subject: [FLDUVAL] cemeteries Julie, Like you I do not understand how someone can destroy a cemetery and think nothing of it. I was discussing with a friend not to long back, about a historical cemetery in our home town that was going to be destroyed for a church. My friend felt that they should build a church on the site because, in her words "a church benefits everyone and dead people have no history and they don't benefit anyone." Now don't get me wrong, churches are a good thing, but for her to think that "dead people have no history and do not benefit anyone" was just too much! Some people have no intelligence! Good news the church is going to pick another site to build and keep the cemetery as it is. However I did wonder....... If it had been her ansesters in that cemetery would she have had different feelings about it being distroyed? She stated that she would not, her feelings would have been the same, but I do wonder.... Julie wrote.... I was looking up names on rootsweb's florida tombstone transcription pages today and saw the following item posted on one of the surveys: Note: According to several elderly ladies that were visiting the cemetery the day I was talking this census and paused to chat... "Prospect Church and Cemetery" was located in a south-westerly direction from Williams Cemetery. While they couldn't agree on approximately how many people were buried there, they did agree that "one day it was there and the next it wasn't with the tombstones dumped into the lake and a citrus grove being planted". there are a great many things in life that i do not understand. one of them is how this sort of thing can take place. it's not just the act of destroying a cemetery, but the mind-set of the person who sees nothing wrong in doing so. julie thames howell jax, fla