The item below is probably a tag or advertisement that the provider stuck on the bottom of emails sent by it's members. Or it could be an automatic signature someone has entered so that it will appear on all the emails sent by that individual, Here is the offensive item! 3,987 AMERICANS HAVE DIED and at least 29,324 WOUNDED in the Iraq war. >> COST OF THE WAR: $12 BILLION a month, most of it added to a national debt >> that now exceeds $30,000 per household. I forwarded the email by Cynthia to myself to see if my provider added anything to my emails. Here is what it added: " It's Tax Time! _Get tips, forms and advice on AOL Money & Finance._ (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001) " I don't suppose it is very offensive but I do not really appreciate AOL sticking it's ads in my emails. I usually don't pay any attention to these trailers but maybe we should be more assertive in complaining to the providers about them being added. I will let AOL know about my disapproval of this practice. David Reinhardt 9976 Fairway Villas Lane Pensacola, Florida 32514-2603 Phone 850-474-0407 Fax 850-637-1843 **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001)

Doris and I have corresponded off list. She used the term WFGS website which threw me. She meant RW email list. I do understand her feelings.

Lee, I did find the message from you, below, which has a statement similar to which Doris referred. I don't know whence it came, and I don't know if there were others, but I agree with Doris that any political statements should be omitted in our genealogy emails and web sites. Thanks. Cynthia ----- Original Message ----- From: "L.L. Scott" <[email protected]> To: < Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 10:48 AM Subject: [FL-WFGS] Fw: Related to Pensacola U.S. Passport Applications1795-1925 > Janet Myers was the submitter, > perhaps she will tell us more. :-) > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John C. Bush" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 10:18 AM > Subject: Re: [FL-WFGS] Related to Pensacola U.S. Passport Applications > 1795-1925 > > >> Thank you for this very valuable info. How does one gain access to these >> documents? >> >> -----Original Message----- >>>From: "L.L. Scott" <[email protected]> >>>Sent: Mar 16, 2008 9:20 PM >>>To: [email protected] >>>Subject: [FL-WFGS] Related to Pensacola U.S. Passport Applications >>>1795-1925 >>> >>>http://www.flgenhistonline.com/counties/escambia/passports/passports1795-1925.htm >>> >>>------------------------------- >>>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ____________________________________________________________________ >> 3,987 AMERICANS HAVE DIED and at least 29,324 WOUNDED in the Iraq war. >> COST OF THE WAR: $12 BILLION a month, most of it added to a national debt >> that now exceeds $30,000 per household. >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Doris, I have no idea what you are refering to???? As the webmaster of the WFGS site I don't know where there is anything about politics. http://www.rootsweb.com/~flwfgs/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doris Buffum" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2008 7:58 AM Subject: [FL-WFGS] Poliitical Opinions > I've sat back long enough and said nothing but now it's time to say that " > I don't think that Ones Political Opinion ", Quotes" or views belong in > the posts on the WFGS's website." > Everyone has a right to thier opinion, but for those of us that don't want > it expressed on our genealogy website , please do it privately..This is > not the war of 1812 , it's here and now > I have grandsons and nephews in Iraq. I could not be more proud of them > for doing what they think is thier duty to country. > Our family is in prayer daily for our young people in the military. > We can listen on the news , or read the paper. We don't need the body > count or how many are wounded posted on what should be a Website for > genealogist. > Thank You > Doris Buffum > Ch member > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I've sat back long enough and said nothing but now it's time to say that " I don't think that Ones Political Opinion ", Quotes" or views belong in the posts on the WFGS's website." Everyone has a right to thier opinion, but for those of us that don't want it expressed on our genealogy website , please do it privately..This is not the war of 1812 , it's here and now I have grandsons and nephews in Iraq. I could not be more proud of them for doing what they think is thier duty to country. Our family is in prayer daily for our young people in the military. We can listen on the news , or read the paper. We don't need the body count or how many are wounded posted on what should be a Website for genealogist. Thank You Doris Buffum Ch member

Janet, thank you for posting this really helpful information How does one access these documents? -----Original Message----- >From: "L.L. Scott" <[email protected]> >Sent: Mar 16, 2008 9:20 PM >To: [email protected] >Subject: [FL-WFGS] Related to Pensacola U.S. Passport Applications 1795-1925 > >http://www.flgenhistonline.com/counties/escambia/passports/passports1795-1925.htm > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ____________________________________________________________________ 3,987 AMERICANS HAVE DIED and at least 29,324 WOUNDED in the Iraq war. COST OF THE WAR: $12 BILLION a month, most of it added to a national debt that now exceeds $30,000 per household.

Janet Myers was the submitter, perhaps she will tell us more. :-) ----- Original Message ----- From: "John C. Bush" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 10:18 AM Subject: Re: [FL-WFGS] Related to Pensacola U.S. Passport Applications 1795-1925 > Thank you for this very valuable info. How does one gain access to these > documents? > > -----Original Message----- >>From: "L.L. Scott" <[email protected]> >>Sent: Mar 16, 2008 9:20 PM >>To: [email protected] >>Subject: [FL-WFGS] Related to Pensacola U.S. Passport Applications >>1795-1925 >> >>http://www.flgenhistonline.com/counties/escambia/passports/passports1795-1925.htm >> >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ____________________________________________________________________ > 3,987 AMERICANS HAVE DIED and at least 29,324 WOUNDED in the Iraq war. > COST OF THE WAR: $12 BILLION a month, most of it added to a national debt > that now exceeds $30,000 per household. >

http://www.flgenhistonline.com/counties/escambia/passports/passports1795-1925.htm

While DNA testing is a great leap forward in genealogy, all it really does is tell you how closely you MIGHT be related to others in your paternal (or maternal if you do mitochondrial testing) line. It's a probability game. If you have no more than a certain number of variations in markers with another person, the testers can give you the PROBABILITY of your sharing a most recent common ancestor five generations (or whatever) back with that other tested person. The probability comes from an assumed constant rate of mutation on the Y Chromosome or M-DNA. The probability is pretty accurate over a large number of runs but each individual run is open to considerable doubt since no one knows when the mutations in your particular line took place - only the likelihood that they took place in a space of several specified generations. And, of course, the mutation is not constant. Think of it as tossing a coin. The chance of tossing a head in one try is .5, in two tries .75, etc. But you might toss no heads in ten tries. (i.e. no mutations.) It's not likely on any particular day but it will happen to someone if enough try the toss. You might be the someone in the DNA toss that has the unlikely mutation rate purely from chance. That will give you a completely false sense of being a direct descendant of someone who is actually only your cousin 5 times removed. The testing agencies all have graphs to show you the probability that you and another person share a most recent common ancestor. While the probability may be 95 percent that you share a common ancestor within the last 5 generations, if the mutation rate was lower for your line, that ancestor could have been many generations farther back than the charts would indicate. Still, it's a good tool to keep you motivated until single nucleotide polymorphism (SNP) testing comes on line. That will narrow the odds considerably. But at a higher cost initially. The thing DNA testing is best at is showing that you are NOT kin to another person at all within thousands of years. And we all know people we would like to get results like that on. Jerry Merritt L.L. Scott wrote: > I know some of you have had your DNA checked, > but I don't remember who other than Ron P. > I had a caller today ( Carol Rowe) who wanted some input, > her brothers are skeptical. > So if you have had it done please reply to the list and what you thought of the results. > Thank you. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

Lee, Everything that John Bush says is true, but as he say it is a great genealogical tool. You still must get out and use the other means of genealogical methods. One thing the DNA testing doesn't do is tell you who your ancestor is specifically. It can tell you what group you belong to and where your ancestors were from, but not say London or Dochester, but rather the British Isles, Germany, etc. The great thing is can do is put you in touch with cousins that may have the paper to get you to that relative from say Dorchester, etc. That is what it did for me. I am missing a link in the middle to a guy that was born in VA in 1706. However, one of the guys I match has the paper to prove he is related to this guy so now I am able to show I do belong to Thomas Parks, b. 1706. But the DNA doesn't help me find the guy in the middle, but at least I know I am searching the correct path. Good day. Ron

One other detail -- and an important one to know: the DNA tests done for genealogical purposes are not as sophistacated as those used for criminal and other purposes. The genealogical tests are done with what is called "junk DNA" so the very legitimate privacy issues do not come into play. A book: TRACE YOUR ROOTS WITH DNA by Smolenyak and Turner, is a good primer. -----Original Message----- >From: "L.L. Scott" <[email protected]> >Sent: Mar 15, 2008 3:13 PM >To: [email protected]web.com >Subject: [FL-WFGS] Survey - DNA > >I know some of you have had your DNA checked, >but I don't remember who other than Ron P. >I had a caller today ( Carol Rowe) who wanted some input, >her brothers are skeptical. >So if you have had it done please reply to the list and what you thought of the results. >Thank you. > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ____________________________________________________________________ 3,987 AMERICANS HAVE DIED and at least 29,324 WOUNDED in the Iraq war. COST OF THE WAR: $12 BILLION a month, most of it added to a national debt that now exceeds $30,000 per household.

I am a participant in the Bush Surname DNA Project, and it has been an absolutely invaluable experience. Of course, it doesn't eliminate the need for genealogical research of the olde fashioned kind, but it can narrow the scope very considerably. In my case, it proved the relationship among several living individuals -- and absolutely eliminated others as being related. This then enabled some of us "cousins" to share proved data and extend our research cooperatively. As a result, we have now established a firm tie to our first immigrant ancestor, Richard Bush, who came to Virginia Colony in 1770 from Stock Harvard, Essex, England -- where he was baptized 4 July 1655. We know that his parents were named John and Martha. Others in the Bush project have established that their first immigrant ancestor, William Bush, also came from Essex, but came to Massachusetts a few years ahead of our Richard's migration. We know, from the DNA, that William and Richard shared an ancestry in England -- perhaps they were cousins. And we have shown that there is a distinct difference between these "southern" Bushes and the New England (now, sometimes called the "Presidential") lines. There is not even a remote connection -- at least, not within the last 10,000 years or so. As a firmly entrenched "Yeller Dawg Democrat", that was news that warmed the cockels of this old heart of mine! If anyone would like to read a very complete summary of results of the Bush Surname DNA project, it is availably on-line at www.personal.psu.edu/faculty/g/a/gah4/BushDNA/Results.html If this does not work as a link, simply copy and paste it to your internet address line. To participate, one must be a male in the actual surname line of descent. When ordering the test, please spring for AT LEAST the 37-marker test -- and go for a higher level if you can afford it; anything less than 37 is too inexact to be very useful. -----Original Message----- >From: "L.L. Scott" <[email protected]> >Sent: Mar 15, 2008 3:13 PM >To: [email protected] >Subject: [FL-WFGS] Survey - DNA > >I know some of you have had your DNA checked, >but I don't remember who other than Ron P. >I had a caller today ( Carol Rowe) who wanted some input, >her brothers are skeptical. >So if you have had it done please reply to the list and what you thought of the results. >Thank you. > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ____________________________________________________________________ 3,987 AMERICANS HAVE DIED and at least 29,324 WOUNDED in the Iraq war. COST OF THE WAR: $12 BILLION a month, most of it added to a national debt that now exceeds $30,000 per household.

I know some of you have had your DNA checked, but I don't remember who other than Ron P. I had a caller today ( Carol Rowe) who wanted some input, her brothers are skeptical. So if you have had it done please reply to the list and what you thought of the results. Thank you.

> >From Dick Eastman's Newsletter > > NARA Makes Some Passenger Arrival Records Available Online > > This week, the National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) > announced that it has made available for the first time online more > than 5.2 million records of some passengers who arrived during the > last half of the 19th century at the ports of Baltimore, Boston, New > Orleans, New York, and Philadelphia. The records can be accessed > through NARA's online Access to Archival Databases (AAD). > > The records were transcribed from original ship manifests into > electronic databases by Temple University's Center for Immigration > Research at The Balch Institute. The Center donated the digital > records to the National Archives. The records are known as Data > Files Relating to the Immigration of Germans to the United States, > 1850-1897; Data Files Relating to the Immigration of Italians to > the United States, 1855-1900; and Data Files Relating to the > Immigration of Russians to the United States, 1834-1897. This series > consists of records of 527,394 passengers who arrived at the United > States between 1834 through 1897 and identified their country of > origin or nationality as Armenia, Finland, Galicia, Lithuania, > Poland, Russia, Russian Poles, or Ukraine. There are records of > passengers who were U.S. citizens or non-U.S. citizens planning to > continue their travels, returning to the U.S., or staying in the > U.S. There are records of passengers arriving at the following > ports: Baltimore, Boston, New Orleans, New York, and Philadelphia; > the bulk of the records are for passengers arriving at the Port of > New York. Each of the passenger records may include name, age, town > of last residence, destination, and codes for passenger's sex, > occupation, literacy, country of origin, transit and/or travel > compartment, and the identification number for the ship manifest. > Information on each ship is in the manifest header file and includes > the ship manifest identification number, the name of the ship, the > code for its port of departure, and date of arrival. The ship > manifest identification number indicates the port of arrival. > > The new databases may be found at > > http://aad.archives.gov/aad/index.jsp

http://usgenmap.rootsweb.com/usgenmap.htm

Dorothy Jane Campbell Smith was an active member of the WFGS until Jan. 2008. She died Mar. 9, 2008 and will be buried Wed. Mar. 12, 2008 at Barrancas Cemetery. A card will be sent to her family on behalf of the WFGS Society. If you wish to send individual condolences, you may do so at the following address: pnj.com/obits Gayle Sweet

Thank you Gayle. If anyone wants to send a personal card, you may mail it to Pat Campbell (Dot's sister with whom she lived) 14 North C Street Pensacola, FL 32501 Cynthia ------------------------------------------------- Dorothy Jane Campbell Smith was an active member of the WFGS until Jan. 2008. She died Mar. 9, 2008 and will be buried Wed. Mar. 12, 2008 at Barrancas Cemetery. A card will be sent to her family on behalf of the WFGS Society. If you wish to send individual condolences, you may do so at the following address: pnj.com/obits Gayle Sweet

There is a user-contributed collection of obituaries from Okaloosa County that covers the late 1990's and early 2000's. There are about 3200 obituaries and due to the "snowbird" popularity of the area, have people from all over the United States. The collection is at http://www.genealogybuff.com/uco/webbbs_config.pl http://www.genealogybuff.com/uco/webbbs_config.pl

Dot's obit is in the morning paper. Visitation 9:30-10:30 Wednesday at Harper-Morris 11:00 AM graveside service at Barrancas, NAS Dot was quiet but always willing to help. When we used to have spring and fall conferences, she was one to arrive early and greet people and give out the packets. She was on the Escambia Heritage Book I committee and never missed a meeting. She was descended from local Hallmark, Pfeiffer and Campbell families and contributed a number of stories to the Heritage Book. She was also a proofreader for the book. She attended every session and stayed the whole time. Cynthia

Thanks for keeping us posted. ----- Original Message ----- From: "cgdean" <[email protected]> To: "WFGS" <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 3:36 PM Subject: [FL-WFGS] Dot Smith > Our long-time member, Dot Smith, died last night. Don't have details > about service,etc, yet. Will post when I do. > > If you have forgotten what she looked like, check in the front section of > Heritage Book I, p. iv. > > Cynthia > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >