I got a call from Helen Allen, one of the people who helped clear and survey the Old Muscogee Cemetery several years ago. She related to me that the N. W. Florida Water Management Dist has bought a lot of land along the Perdido River and the cemetery is part of that purchase. This is good news. They have already repaired the road to the cemetery that was washed out by Ivan and left that way by the county. They have also cleared the cemetery, built a road down to the Old Black Cemetery and will clear that this weekend. They intend to put up a fence and a gate and enforce the rules about trespassing there after dark. In a related item, there will be an Honor Guard Service at the cemetery this Saturday to place flags on the grave of veterans. If you have any ancestors there who are vets, you can call Delton Boswell at cell 554-2883 to find the time of the ceremony and to let him know of any vets that you are aware of. Perhaps late this fall when it gets cool again, we can get a group together to go back to the cemetery and lay out our survey grid again and complete the survey we started before Ivan interrupted us. We have mapped one quarter of the cemetery already and with enough people could complete the survey in one or two days. We don't want to be working up there now. The crew clearing the area killed a 5 foot rattlesnake last week. Where there is one, there are bound to be others. Jerry Merritt.

http://www.muscogeegenealogy.com:80/Marion/mare63.htm Muscogee Genealogical Society http://www.muscogeegenealogy.com/about.htm

Each issue of the Family Tree DNA Newsletter presents a situation which you may encounter as you utilize DNA Genetic Genealogy testing for your family history research, followed by their recommendation. This article is from the current issue, which I just received. JCB Case Study ========== If two brothers were born in England in the early 1600's and were the first of that name to come to the colonies, would it be likely that the present day descendents of those brothers would have similar Y-DNA readings? If the last names became spelled differently, would not the descendents of those two brothers still have similar DNA Haplogroups. Specifically, could descendents of one brother be R1b and the descendents of the other brother be Rla or even G, J, or I? Recommendation ============== If you test a descendent of each of two brothers born in the early 1600s, you would expect their results to be either an exact match or a close match. Their haplogroup would be the same, since this reflects distant origin. If the two participants are in different haplogroups, this means their common ancestor is tens of thousands of years ago - and not in a genealogy time frame. If this occurs, there are several explanations, including: mistaken connection in the genealogy research, infidelity, a wife marrying who is pregnant by an unrelated man, and informal adoption. The first step is to check the paper trail. Surnames evolved over time, and spelling was not standardized until the 1900's. It is very typical to find changes in the spelling of a surname prior to the 1900s. The surname may also be spelled different ways in the same document. Most people were illiterate, and when they spoke their name, another party wrote it down, based on how it sounded. Migration often had a significant impact on spelling, due to new pronunciation in the new location. Therefore, descendents of two brothers could each use a different spelling today. If participants were tested from each descendent, the test results should match or be a close match. (Copyright 2008, Family Tree DNA), and cite "Facts & Genes" (http://www.familytreeDNA.com/facts_genes.aspx) Used by permission Facts & Genes. Copyright (c) 2008 Family Tree DNA. All rights reserved.

Chronicling America - Library of Congress Journal + many other newspapers http://www.loc.gov/chroniclingamerica/search_fulltext_advanced.html

I received this from another list. VATICAN-MORMONS May-2-2008 (1,010 words) xxxn Vatican letter directs bishops to keep parish records from Mormons By Chaz Muth Catholic News Service WASHINGTON (CNS) -- In an effort to block posthumous rebaptisms by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Catholic dioceses throughout the world have been directed by the Vatican not to give information in parish registers to the Mormons' Genealogical Society of Utah. An April 5 letter from the Vatican Congregation for Clergy, obtained by Catholic News Service in late April, asks episcopal conferences to direct all bishops to keep the Latter-day Saints from microfilming and digitizing information contained in those registers. The order came in light of "grave reservations" expressed in a Jan. 29 letter from the Vatican Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, the clergy congregation's letter said. Father James Massa, executive director of the U.S. bishops' Secretariat of Ecumenical and Interreligious Affairs, said the step was taken to prevent the Latter-day Saints from using records -- such as baptismal documentation -- to posthumously baptize by proxy the ancestors of church members. Posthumous baptisms by proxy have been a common practice for the Latter-day Saints -- commonly known as Mormons -- for more than a century, allowing the church's faithful to have their ancestors baptized into their faith so they may be united in the afterlife, said Mike Otterson, a spokesman in the church's Salt Lake City headquarters. In a telephone interview with CNS May 1, Otterson said he wanted a chance to review the contents of the letter before commenting on how it will affect the Mormons' relationship with the Catholic Church. "This dicastery is bringing this matter to the attention of the various conferences of bishops," the letter reads. "The congregation requests that the conference notifies each diocesan bishop in order to ensure that such a detrimental practice is not permitted in his territory, due to the confidentiality of the faithful and so as not to cooperate with the erroneous practices of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints." The letter is dated 10 days before Pope Benedict XVI's April 15-20 U.S. visit, during which he presided over an ecumenical prayer service attended by two Mormon leaders. It marked the first time Mormons had participated in a papal prayer service. Father Massa said he could see how the policy stated in the letter could strain relations between the Catholic Church and the Latter-day Saints. "It certainly has that potential," he said. "But I would also say that the purpose of interreligious dialogue is not to only identify agreements, but also to understand our differences. As Catholics, we have to make very clear to them their practice of so-called rebaptism is unacceptable from the standpoint of Catholic truth." The Catholic Church will eventually open a dialogue with the Mormons about the rebaptism issue, Father Massa said, "but we are at the beginning of the beginning of a new relationship with the LDS. The first step in any dialogue is to establish trust and to seek friendship." The two faiths share intrinsic viewpoints on key issues the United States is facing, particularly the pro-life position on abortion and an opposition to same-sex marriage. However, theological differences have cropped up between Mormons and Catholics in the past. In 2001 the Vatican's doctrinal congregation issued a ruling that baptism conferred by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints cannot be considered a valid Christian baptism, thus requiring converts from that religion to Catholicism to receive a Catholic baptism. "We don't have an issue with the fact that the Catholic Church doesn't recognize our baptisms, because we don't recognize theirs," Otterson said. "It's a difference of belief." When issuing its 2001 ruling, the Vatican said that even though the Mormon baptismal rite refers to the Father, Son and Holy Spirit, the church's beliefs about the identity of the three persons are so different from Catholic and mainline Christian belief that the rite cannot be regarded as a Christian baptism. Latter-day Saints regard Jesus and the Holy Spirit as children of the Father and the Heavenly Mother. They believe that baptism was instituted by the Father, not Christ, and that it goes back to Adam and Eve. Msgr. J. Terrence Fitzgerald -- vicar general of the Diocese of Salt Lake City -- said he didn't understand why the Latter-day Saints church was singled out in this latest Vatican policy regarding parish records. "We have a policy not to give out baptismal records to anyone unless they are entitled to have them," Msgr. Fitzgerald said of his diocese. "That isn't just for the Church of the Latter-day Saints. That is for all groups." Though he said the Salt Lake City Diocese has enjoyed a long-standing dialogue with the Latter-day Saints, Msgr. Fitzgerald said the diocese does not support giving the Mormons names for the sake of rebaptism. Mormons have been criticized by several other faiths -- perhaps most passionately by the Jews -- for the church's practice of posthumous baptism. Members of the Latter-day Saints believe baptizing their ancestors by proxy gives the dead an opportunity to embrace the faith in the afterlife. The actual baptism-by-proxy ceremony occurs in a Mormon temple, and is intended to wash sins away for the commencement of church membership. Jewish leaders have called the practice arrogant and said it is disrespectful to the dead, especially Holocaust victims. "Baptism by proxy is a fundamentally important doctrine of the Latter-day Saints," Otterson said. "We have cooperative relationships with churches, governments -- both state and national -- going back to the last century. Our practice of negotiating for records and making them available for genealogical research is very well known." Father Massa said he is not aware of aggressive attempts to obtain baptismal records at Catholic parishes in any of the U.S. dioceses. He also said the Catholic Church will continue to reach out to the Mormons and carry on the efforts of understanding that have already begun, especially in Salt Lake City. "Profound theological differences are not an excuse for avoiding dialogue, but a reason for pursuing dialogue," Father Massa said. END

Too bad their meeting is the sme day as ours otherwise I might be interested in their society as would a number of others possibly. Would they consider changing their meeting day. Gayle -------------- Original message from "cgdean" <[email protected]>: -------------- > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Little Bighorn History Alliance > To: cgdean > Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 11:28 PM > Subject: Re: Walton County Genealogical Society > > > Cynthia, > > We started the Walton County Genealogy Society as a branch of our parent > organization, the Walton County Heritage Association, about six months ago. We > have a great president, Wayne Sconiers ([email protected]) who is very > enthusiastic and who seems to be related to everyone born in Walton County. :) > Unfortunately, attendance at meetings has dwindled to nothing (Wayne and I were > the only ones who showed up last Saturday) but we're not giving up. We meet the > first Saturday morning of every month at 10:00 at the Walton County Heritage > Museum. > > Feel free to pass this along. We would welcome any help and/or support! > > Diane > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: cgdean > To: Walton County Heritage > Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 2:19 PM > Subject: Re: Walton County Genealogical Society > > > Hi Diane, > > I wondered if you would be the one to get that email. > > So, is there a genealogical soc. in Walton Co.? > > That question came up on our Escambia Co. Roots-L email list, yesterday. I > was just trying to help out. > > Whom should one contact? I'm not sure what the guy wanted to know, but then > a second person asked. > > I'll pass the info back to the list. > > Cynthia > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message

----- Original Message ----- From: Little Bighorn History Alliance To: cgdean Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 11:28 PM Subject: Re: Walton County Genealogical Society Cynthia, We started the Walton County Genealogy Society as a branch of our parent organization, the Walton County Heritage Association, about six months ago. We have a great president, Wayne Sconiers ([email protected]) who is very enthusiastic and who seems to be related to everyone born in Walton County. :) Unfortunately, attendance at meetings has dwindled to nothing (Wayne and I were the only ones who showed up last Saturday) but we're not giving up. We meet the first Saturday morning of every month at 10:00 at the Walton County Heritage Museum. Feel free to pass this along. We would welcome any help and/or support! Diane ----- Original Message ----- From: cgdean To: Walton County Heritage Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 2:19 PM Subject: Re: Walton County Genealogical Society Hi Diane, I wondered if you would be the one to get that email. So, is there a genealogical soc. in Walton Co.? That question came up on our Escambia Co. Roots-L email list, yesterday. I was just trying to help out. Whom should one contact? I'm not sure what the guy wanted to know, but then a second person asked. I'll pass the info back to the list. Cynthia

Thanks Cynthia. A card has been sent on behalf of the WFGS. Gayle -------------- Original message from "cgdean" <[email protected]>: -------------- > Anne Todd died April 29. She was very instrumental in getting the WFGS going in > 1982. The organizational meeting was held in her home, and she served on the > first board. The obit was in Friday's paper but is still on line at PNJ.com. A > lovely lady and long-time member. > > If the group wants to send a card, her address is/was > > 615 Bayshore Drive # 505 > Pensacola, FL 32507 > > Cynthia > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message

Yes, I even used Copy and Paste without Formatting from the first try into the second try. For some reason the List doesn't like my e-mail program - Thunderbird. I have this problem a lot. I'll give it one more try. Below is the text I tried to send the first two times. Jerry There is a good, though lengthy, answer to that question at this link: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/FLWALTON/2001-12/1007381699 Jerry Merritt L.L. Scott wrote: Jerry, are your messages in plain text? They are not coming through.

Jerry, are your messages in plain text? They are not coming through. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry Merritt" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 11:56 AM Subject: Re: [FL-WFGS] Walton County > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

http://www.waltoncountyheritage.org/genealogy.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: "Evan Strohl" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 9:56 AM Subject: Re: [FL-WFGS] Walton County >I need to know that also, Malcolm--if anyone knows, > please answer through the Message Board. > > Thanks > Evan > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Malcom Strickland" <[email protected]> > To: "West Florida Genealogy Society" <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 8:22 PM > Subject: [FL-WFGS] Walton County > > >> Does anyone know if there is a genealogy Society in Walton County, FL? >> >> Thanks >> Malcom Strickland >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Wow. Thanks! ----- Original Message ----- From: "L.L. Scott" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 7:56 AM Subject: [FL-WFGS] USGenWeb Census Project > http://www.us-census.org/

This site lists FL genealogical societies. It does not list one for Walton Co. Don't know how accurate it is. http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~fcc/main/socities.htm Cynthia

Thanks, Gayle. I think it's nice for society to send cards. It's certainly not a financial hardship, and I'm sure the families appreciate it. Cynthia Thanks Cynthia. A card has been sent on behalf of the WFGS. Gayle

I need to know that also, Malcolm--if anyone knows, please answer through the Message Board. Thanks Evan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Malcom Strickland" <[email protected]> To: "West Florida Genealogy Society" <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 8:22 PM Subject: [FL-WFGS] Walton County > Does anyone know if there is a genealogy Society in Walton County, FL? > > Thanks > Malcom Strickland > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Anne Todd died April 29. She was very instrumental in getting the WFGS going in 1982. The organizational meeting was held in her home, and she served on the first board. The obit was in Friday's paper but is still on line at PNJ.com. A lovely lady and long-time member. If the group wants to send a card, her address is/was 615 Bayshore Drive # 505 Pensacola, FL 32507 Cynthia

http://www.us-census.org/

Does anyone know if there is a genealogy Society in Walton County, FL? Thanks Malcom Strickland