This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/GdW.2ACIB/258.1.1 Message Board Post: The person who kindly sent me the information is no relation. So, she will not be bothered! This would seem to be an example of conflicting information. The person who is directly related to this family will want to dig further to find out the facts. Best of luck in your efforts!

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Fitzwater, Blount Classification: Marriage Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/GdW.2ACIB/258 Message Board Post: This short transcription kindly sent in by Alice Nicholson. A wedding of interest to people of this community took place in St. Louis February 5, 1934, when Miss Avis Fitzwater became the bride of Bryan Blount. The bride is the second daughter of Leonard Fitzwater and the groom a son of R.L. Blount, both of Shirley. Both Mr. and Mrs. Blount are employed in the City. They are worthy young people and have the best wishes of all for a happy married life. Independent Journal, Potosi, MO, February 15, 1934

It has been brought to my attention that some of you are upset that I don't post every obituary that has a Fitzwater surname in it. I wanted to clarify to the list that I don't seek "all things Fitzwater." The obituaries I do come across I post for your use. I do NOT however make it my life's ambition to locate every obituary with the Fitzwater surname located within it! I would encourage each of you to review newspapers you might read for the Fitzwater name in the obituary page. Then, if you locate one, cite it (date, name of paper, city of paper), and the obituary itself. If we all share the information, you never know who it will help! You'll note I've posted a great many obituaries over the years. Some of these I've mistakenly posted twice. For those who found this an irritating inconvenience, I'm sincerely sorry. It has never been my intention to waste your time reading a double post. Of course, it wasn't my intention to waste my time doing something twice! But, hey, I'm human, and it just might happen again! If you find it has, please feel free to hit delete! I am not an authority on research in all other states. I must rely on training, lessons learned, and other researchers for help when I enter a new arena. Just as you do. I have been notified by one poster who feels she is an authority that I am wrong to suggest anything at all for others research when I haven't spent as many years doing research as this person has. I must totally */disagree/* with this sentiment. We ALL have something to contribute. We ALL have more to learn. When I stop wanting to learn, I'm on my way out, boots up! No, I don't have all the answers, not by a long shot. But I'll share what I know. Even if that suggestion is a researcher I know that does have the answers! Yes, I do hire researchers in other states. They know the records intimately, and can get in and out in record time. We've had a poster who wants to sue all people who post Fitzwater family gedcoms. This poster has sent many of us threatening emails. After careful research, I can say without reservation, the poster is out of line. I've saved every letter she has written, with permissions granted freely. I've responded when asked to her requests. I've addressed her issues directly with Ancestry and Rootsweb (owned by Ancestry, but run separately). They feel the poster is out of line with her emails and her threats. If any of you have any specific concerns, please let me know. I'll gladly answer any questions you have to the best of my ability. The poster who has generated so much animosity has been permanently barred from posting on the Fitzwater mail list. This was done at Ancestry's suggestion. I would encourage any of you: if you have a problem with a fellow poster, please let the list administrator know first! Most times we can get the problem fixed, sometimes, we can't. Leslie Lawson Fitzwater List Administrator -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.1/28 - Release Date: 6/24/05

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Fitzwater, Sherman, Groves, Miller, Godlove, Ours Classification: Obituary Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/GdW.2ACIB/254 Message Board Post: 20 May 2005 Daily News-Record Harrisonburg, Virginia Ralph Willis Sherman, 79, of Austin, Texas, and formerly of Moorefield, W.Va., died Monday, May 16, 2005, at The Heart Hospital in Austin, Texas. Mr. Sherman was born Aug. 19, 1925, in Moorefield, W.Va., and was the son of the late George Willis Sherman and Eda Fitzwater Sherman. He was a member of the Presbyterian Church, Tannery Chapel. He was a graduate of West Virginia University and Columbia University in New York where he obtained his Masters Degree. He was a World War II veteran, having served in the U.S. Army and was employed for over 31 years in the Government Affairs office of the Arabian American Oil Company in Saudi Arabia. He was a member of Moorefield Masonic Lodge for more than 50 years. Surviving are four sisters, Mary Frances Groves of Petersburg, W.Va., Hazel Miller of Baltimore, Md., Alice Godlove of Winchester and Betty Ours of Arlington, and several nieces and nephews. The Rev. Catherine Jackson will conduct the funeral 3 p.m. Saturday at the Moorefield (W.Va.) Presbyterian Church. The body will lie in state at the church one hour prior to the service. Burial will be in the Olivet Cemetery in Moorefield, W.Va. The family will receive friends from 2 to 4 p.m. and 7 to 9 p.m. today at Elmore Funeral Home in Moorefield, W.Va. Memorial contributions may be made to the Presbyterian Church Tannery Chapel.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Fitzwater, Triplett Classification: Obituary Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/GdW.2ACIB/253 Message Board Post: 1 June 2005 The Herald Dispatch Huntington, West Virginia GARNER WILLIAM TRIPLETT, 60, of Crown City, husband of Sylvia J. Fitzwater Triplett, died Monday at home. He was a retired mechanic. Services 11a.m. Thursday, Willis Funeral Home, Gallipolis; burial in Old Mercerville Cemetery. Visitation 6 to 8 p.m. today at the funeral home.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Fitzwater, Spitzer, King Classification: Obituary Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/GdW.2ACIB/252 Message Board Post: 23 April 2005 The Winchester Star Winchester, Virginia Larry A. Spitzer Sr., 70, of Phillips Store Road in Broadway, died Friday, April 22, 2005, at his shop. Mr. Spitzer was born June 9, 1934, in Daphna, and was the son of the late Lurtie A. and Goldie Mae Fitzwater Spitzer. He was the owner of Spitzer?s Electronics. He was a member of the Mount Valley Riders Motorcycle Club and the N.R.A. Survivors include his wife, the former Patricia King; two daughters, Kathy Spitzer of Harrisonburg and Sherry Spitzer of Kill Devil Hills, N.C.; a son, Larry A. Spitzer Jr. of Vienna; and two grandchildren. Arletta Clutteur will conduct a memorial service 4 p.m. Sunday at the Grandle Funeral Home in Broadway. The family will receive friends following the service. Memorial contributions may be made to Cat?s Cradle, P.O. Box 2152, Harrisonburg, VA 22801, the SPCA, 2170 Old Furnace Road, P.O. Box 413, Harrisonburg, VA. 22803, or the Broadway Rescue Squad, P.O. Box 666, Broadway, VA 22815. His body was cremated.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Fitzwater, Pathtel, Cottrill Classification: Obituary Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/GdW.2ACIB/251 Message Board Post: 13 May 2005 The Clarksburg Exponent/Telegram Clarksburg, West Virginia CLARKSBURG -- Mr. Kenneth Jeffrey Pethtel, age 56, of 14 Elizabeth Street, Salem, WV, died at 11:25 p.m. Tuesday, May 10, 2005, at the United Hospital Center in Clarksburg, WV, following an extended illness. He was born September 8, 1948, a son of the late Edward James Pethtel and Geraldine Fitzwater Pethtel. His wife, Nancy Louis McCauley Pethtel, whom he married July 15, 1978, preceded him in death on June 10, 2004. Surviving are two sons and a daughter-in-law, John J. and Tabatha Pethtel, Denver, Colorado and Kenneth Jeffrey Pethtel, Salem, WV; one daughter and son-in-law, Sheila B. and Mike Cottrill, Wolf Summit, WV; one sister, Elizabeth Lynne Pethtel, Medford, OR.; two grandchildren, Jeffrey Xavier Pethtel, Denver, CO, and Michael Gray Cottrill, Wolf Summitt, WV; and one niece, Jesse Lynne Pethtel, Eugene, OR. Mr. Pethtel was Baptist by faith. He was a graduate of Washington Irving High School, Class of 1966. He was a veteran of the U.S. Army, having served his country during the Vietnam era. He was a member of the Salem V.F.W. Davis Sperry Post 9151 and the Clarksburg Loyal Order of Moose, Lodge 52. He coached Youth Baseball in the Salem area for over 16 years. He was a member of the Salem City Council for eight years and operated a school bus for the Harrison County Board of Education for 16 years. Friends and family will gather to celebrate his life at the Cottage Corner Too at the end of Main Street in Salem on Friday, May 13, 2005, at 7 p.m. Memorial contributions in his memory may be made to the Salem V.F.W. Baseball Team, Davis Sperry Post 9151, P.O. Box 31, Salem, WV 26426. Davis-Weaver service.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Fitzwater, Clemons Classification: Obituary Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/GdW.2ACIB/250 Message Board Post: 22 May 2005 The Gaston Gazette Gastonia, North Carolina CARL J. CLEMONS GASTONIA — Carl Joseph Clemons, 33, of Big Oak Road, died May 19, 2005, at Gaston Memorial Hospital. He was born May 6, 1972, in Oak Hill, W.Va., son of Bobbie Lee Clemons and Catherine Louise Fitzwater Clemons. CELEBRATION OF LIFE SERVICE: 3 p.m. Monday, Catawba Funerals & Cremations Chapel, Hickory INTERMENT: Catawba Memorial Park VISITATION: One hour prior to service, Celebration of Life Room at Catawba Memorial Park, Funerals & Cremations He was employed with REA Construction. SURVIVORS: In addition to father; children, Alex, Latin Cole and step-son Harley; sisters, Rose, Beverly, Gladys and Lillian; brothers, Robert, Tommy, Keith, James and Dale PRECEDED IN DEATH BY: Mother, Catherine Clemons; sister, Lisa; brothers, Denver and Scott ARRANGEMENTS: Catawba Memorial Park, Funerals & Cremations

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Fitzwater, McDonald, Sturm, Thorn, Winkler, Channell, Hawkins, Brady, Bussey, Pride Classification: Obituary Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/GdW.2ACIB/249 Message Board Post: 13 May 2005 The Inter-Mountain Elkins, West Virginia Betty R. Fitzwater Betty R. Fitzwater, 75, of Newark, Del., died Thursday May 3, 2005, at her home. She was born in Junior, a daughter of the late Gordon and Cloie McDonald. Her husband of 54 years, Robert Fitzwater, survives. Also surviving are four children; and eight sisters, Helen Sturm, Gay Thorn, Luretta Winkler, Dorothy Channell, Jean Hawkins, Jerrine Brady, Lola Bussey and Dixie Pride. She was preceded in death by two brothers, Bradley and Paul McDonald. A memorial service will be held at 2 p.m. Saturday at Weaver Nazarene Church with the Rev. Doyle Ryder officiating.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Fitzwater, Sweitzer Classification: Obituary Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/GdW.2ACIB/248 Message Board Post: 29 April 2005 The Republican Oakland, Maryland BERNICE M. SWEITZER Bernice M. Sweitzer, 80, Oakland, died Wednesday, April 20, 2005, at Garrett County Memorial Hospital, Oakland. Born Oct. 21, 1924, in Swanton, she was the daughter of the late Franklin P. and Alta M. (Fitzwater) Sweitzer. She retired as the assistant manager at Farmer's Market, Oakland. She is survived by several nieces and nephews. An interment service was held in the chapel at Garrett County Memorial Gardens, Oakland, on Saturday, April 23, with the Rev. David Moon officiating. Interment followed. The Stewart Funeral Home, Oakland, was in charge of arrangements.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/GdW.2ACIB/246.1.1 Message Board Post: I didn't have a specific name. Someone had seen my site and sent me a list of surnames they were researching. I then posted that same message for all the names they had sent me. I put up the site to be a free space for people to find documents. It is free, but since it is free and I'm doing it alone it takes 2-3 weeks for me to get a document posted once I recieve it. I also make posts once I get those documents up to the appropriate boards so people who might be looking can find them. Thank You - Krystal Wilson - Vital Tree

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Fitzwater Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/GdW.2ACIB/246.1 Message Board Post: Krystal, If you have a specific request, please post it on the board. Many of us are willing to share copies of documents in our files.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/GdW.2ACIB/246 Message Board Post: Hi, I have recently started a website where people can donated the vital records they have so others can view, download and print them for FREE. I have recently had an inquiry about this surname. So if anyone has any records they would/could donate please check out the website for details on how to do that. The more people who donate what they have, the better the odds are of finding a record you need for FREE. Thank you - Krystal Wilson - Vital Tree http://vital-tree.tripod.com/index.html

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/GdW.2ACIB/245.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Thank you Kathryn. Armed with new information, I will try again and see what can be discovered. I hope to have an answer someday and thereby be legitmately included in the Fitzwater family. I will let you know how I make out.

Lisa, Today while searching for other records, I came across this site: http://discount.vip.sina.com/certificate/missouri-birth-certificate/missouri-birth-certificate.html You will need to scroll down until you see the words, Missouri birth certificate. It seems going to your legal representatives might also be an option. The paragraph below from that page. "At present, only a handful of states allow access to *birth* records without the consent of the *birth* parents; other states allow for "veto power" of an adoptee's request by the *birth* parents. Since the passage of Measure 58 in Oregon, Alabama passed a similar measure for adults aged 18 or older. (5) Missouri (6) and Georgia (7) have similar legislation in committee or subcommittee, and bills submitted in Arkansas, Connecticut, and Texas have either been defeated or are pending. (8) State or local public health departments, which are responsible for *birth* records, have absorbed much of the brunt of these legislative changes, but little is known about how they are affected. Indeed, we know of no other assessment of the impact on a public health department in terms of costs to the state, adequacy of resources available to the department, or the processes used to meet the needs of adoptees." Leslie lisahensiek@yahoo.com wrote: >This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > >Classification: Query > >Message Board URL: > >http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/GdW.2ACIB/245 > >Message Board Post: > >I have been checking in to this site from time to time in an effort to help my father gain information on his family. My e-mail address has changed several times and am reaching out to anyone with information. At this point I am pleading. Here is what I have and need help. > >My father was born William Fitzwater on April 18, 1932. He was adopted, not at birth but when he was about a year old. The original birth certificate states that his mother was born in 1913 (approx) and his father was born in 1911 (approx). One of his parents was a Fitzwater. My father was adopted out of Catholic Social Services in St. Louis Missouri and could have been born anywhere, not necessarily Misssouri. He grew up in Farmington, Missouri as an only child. Both of his parents are long deceased and my dad is an older man in search of information for health reasons. >Talk about a brick wall! Someone out there must have information or has heard stories of someone in their family being given up for adoption or a child perhaps born out of wedlock. Or maybe due to the depression, someone could not continue to care for their child and gave them up to Catholic Social Services. No one here is passing judgement, just looking to solve a puzzle about my dad's origin. I can't image not knowing where I came from! Could anyone out there help me? I pray that someone reads this and forwards information to me. I thank you in advance. > >Lisa Hensiek >lisahensiek@yahoo.com > > >==== FITZWATER Mailing List ==== >To contact the list admin for this list write to: >FITZWATER-admin@rootsweb.com > >============================== >New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 > > > > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.6.2 - Release Date: 6/4/05

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/GdW.2ACIB/245.1.1 Message Board Post: Mary Thank you for your reply. We have tried to petition the courts but to no avail. Apparantly the courts in Missouri are tougher on these adoption issues than almost any other state. We were told that when my father turned 70, the records would be opened. That has not happened either that is why I am back where I started with the Fitzwater message boards. My dad turned 73 this past April. Thank you for your help and I will keep on trying.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Fitzwater Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/GdW.2ACIB/245.1 Message Board Post: I have no information about your father. And maybe this is something you've already tried, and if so, I apologize for stating the obvious. Have you considered petitioning the court where the adoption took place to unseal the records for medical purposes? Most states have provisions in their adoption laws that allow for this under certain circumstances. Have you called the court to ask about how this is done in Missouri? Generally the place to start is the probate or orphans' court in the county in which the adoption took place. Catholic Charities in that county could also be helpful. Many adoption agencies and courts now have special offices to deal with just this type of thing. I wish you good luck in your search.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/GdW.2ACIB/245 Message Board Post: I have been checking in to this site from time to time in an effort to help my father gain information on his family. My e-mail address has changed several times and am reaching out to anyone with information. At this point I am pleading. Here is what I have and need help. My father was born William Fitzwater on April 18, 1932. He was adopted, not at birth but when he was about a year old. The original birth certificate states that his mother was born in 1913 (approx) and his father was born in 1911 (approx). One of his parents was a Fitzwater. My father was adopted out of Catholic Social Services in St. Louis Missouri and could have been born anywhere, not necessarily Misssouri. He grew up in Farmington, Missouri as an only child. Both of his parents are long deceased and my dad is an older man in search of information for health reasons. Talk about a brick wall! Someone out there must have information or has heard stories of someone in their family being given up for adoption or a child perhaps born out of wedlock. Or maybe due to the depression, someone could not continue to care for their child and gave them up to Catholic Social Services. No one here is passing judgement, just looking to solve a puzzle about my dad's origin. I can't image not knowing where I came from! Could anyone out there help me? I pray that someone reads this and forwards information to me. I thank you in advance. Lisa Hensiek lisahensiek@yahoo.com

April 19, 2005 Dayton Daily News Dayton, Ohio RIX, Georgia M. Age 88, passed away Monday morning at Walnut Creek Nursing Center. Georgia was born Aug. 29, 1916 in Greenville, OH., to the late Ezra & Zelma (Henderson) Fitzwater. Also preceding her in death was her husband Ferris W. Rix, daughter Beverly Jean Rohler and grandson Ramon Rix, Jr. She is survived by 3 sons and daughters-in-law Dave & Brenda Rix of FL., Bob & Graceanne Rix of Dayton, Ramon & Toby Rix of West Carrollton, son-in-law Rick Rohler of Utah, 12 grandchildren and numerous great-grandchildren. Funeral services will be Thursday April 21, 2005 at 11:00 a.m. at the SANNER FUNERAL HOME 800 ALEX RD. WEST CARROLLTON with Pastor Rob Wackerman officiating. Burial will follow at Evergreen Cemetery, West Carrollton. The family will receive friends at the funeral home 1 hour prior to services (10-11:00 a.m.), on Thursday. Memorial contributions may be made to the Alzheimer's Assn. 3797 Summit Glen Dr. Dayton, Ohio 45449. Published in the Dayton Daily News on 4/19/2005. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.322 / Virus Database: 266.11.12 - Release Date: 5/17/05

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Fitzwater Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/GdW.2ACIB/244.1.1 Message Board Post: If you are seeking a copy of the document, you can get one through the Oregon State Archives in Salem, OR. I wasn't seeking this document, just tripped over it while pulling other records. Because I don't have a firm date of death, or proof that he died in Oregon (no proof at all), I cannot seek a probate file. For your questions, I would encourage you to seek your own copy and come to your own conclusions. My question was much simpler than this! Does anyone know when he died and where?