This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: pjhthrowaway Surnames: Kirk, Palm, Kiner Classification: marriage Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.fisher/3200.3205.3224.3202.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Well you did murder my mother's name. Phelian Palm was Philena Joanna Palm Kiner married Richard Lee Kiner. She had 3 children. And btw Sylivna or however you spelled Granny's name was actually Edna Sylvia Kirk Palm. You might want to contact Cora on the Palm board to correct your information. Dot had Jane Swartz as well. Edan Palm is Edna. There were more decendants of Mary Elizabeth than those you listed. Rufis is Rufus. At our 1970s reunion, I had about 186 first and second cousins all decended from M.E by way of Edna and Aunt Bertha. Your list seems to be a tad short [grin] I grew up with Edna and S.M. Mom stayed at home to care for my Grandmother after her divorce and didn't leave until Granny passed away. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.