Remember censuses of this period all of the writing was done by the enumerator. Unless he specifically said "spell it" he would list Fisher/Fischer the way he would spell it not necessarily the way the person being enumerated would have spelled it. Your supporting clues are all very strong and while they are not dead proof that you have the right person neither would be having the name spelled correctly. Some of this you have to trust your instincts. I have a mystery man in my maternal family tree that I could spend all of my time on but until such time as all of the rest of it is solid, I am not going to fret over him. He used an alias during the civil war and had to do all kinds of affidavits to eventually get his military pension. The big thing is that aliases were fairly common at the time of the civil war especially with enlistees who might be underage. They wanted to serve, the army wanted warm bodies and if you used an alias they couldn't find your folks to prove that you were underage. Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: <townsendatcheney@aol.com> To: <FISCHER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2003 9:12 PM Subject: [FISCHER] Re: Baltimore Fischer's > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Surnames: Fischer > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YaW.2ACIB/437.1.1.2.1.2 > > Message Board Post: > > I just located your message on rootweb. My great-grandfather was Joseph S Fischer. He lived most of his life in the Baltimore/Annapolis area. Listed at the end of this message is the information that I have on him. I also found the census record (1880) that you reference - however the name was spelled Fisher (and yes it lists Veromona). Even though the name is spelled Fisher rather than Fischer, I think the census record references my great-grandfather because: > - Joseph's birth year and middle initial are accurate. > - his mother's name is Susan. > - the baptism record for his son references the godfather for the child as Bernard (I thought this was perhaps a brother that was not identified in Joseph's obituary). > - Teresa Newell, of Millersville and Miss Selicia Fischer of Baltimore were listed as two of Joseph's sisters (in his obituary). The 1880 census record shows a Theresia and a Cecilia as Joseph's sister (a fairly close match given that these are census records). > > I have only recently began documenting my family tree. You might look at the info below. Let me know if you think we have something to talk about. I think I'll also post the following information on the Fischer and Fisher sites on rootsweb. > > Kind regards, > Steve Townsend > Cheney Kansas > great-grandson of Joseph S Fischer > > ...................Descendants of Joseph S Fischer > Generation No. 1 > > 1. Joseph S1 Fischer was born February 1878, and died November 20, 1948 in John Hopkins Hospital in Baltimore, Maryland. He married Mary Appolonia Schmidt, daughter of John Schmidt and Dorothy Toepner (sp). She was born August 26, 1873 in Baltimore, Maryland, and died January 04, 1950. > > Parents were believed to be from Bavaria (no one is sure however). > > Mary A. Fischer died Jan. 4, l950 Age of 76 years 4 mo. ll days; Joseph S. Fischer died Nov 20, l948 age 70 yrs. 9 mo. They lived in Baltimore until l9l3 as I have a picture of the family in the grocery store then owned. > > Joseph Fischers sister's as listed in his obituary were Teresa Newell, of Millersville, Miss Selicia Fischer, Mrs. Mary Ford, Mrs. Barbara Slocum and Mrs. Margaret Homer of Baltimore. Later Marie > > More About Joseph S Fischer: > Burial: "Our Lady of the Fields Catholic Church" cemetary, Millersville, Maryland > > Notes for Mary Appolonia Schmidt (listed on some sources as Schmitt): > > Unsure of spelling. Parents from Bavaria? > > > More About Mary Appolonia Schmidt: > Burial: "Our Lady of the Fields Catholic Church" cemetery, Millersville, Maryland > > Children of Joseph Fischer and Mary Schmidt are: > + 2 i. Martin2 Fischer. > + 3 ii. Bernard Joseph Fischer. > + 4 iii. Appolonia Mary Fischer, born March 11, 1903 in Baltimore, Maryland; died November 29, 1978 in Grinnell, Kansas. > > > Generation No. 2 > > 2. Martin2 Fischer (Joseph S1) He married (1) Mary. He married (2) Mildred. > > Notes for Martin Fischer: > Married twice (Rose is first wife). > > Children of Martin Fischer and Mary are: > 5 i. Lona3 Fischer. > 6 ii. William Fischer. > 7 iii. Lorraine Fischer. > 8 iv. Stella Fischer. > > > 3. Bernard Joseph2 Fischer (Joseph S1) He married Stella Kostkowski April 25, 1928. > > Notes for Bernard Joseph Fischer: > Baptism information: http://www.rootsweb.com/~mdcbalti/StMichael.htm > > St. Michael the Archangel Catholic Church > 7 S. Wolfe St., Baltimore, MD, 21231-1913 > > NAME Fischer, Bernard Joseph FATHER Joseph S. Fischer, Baltimore, MD MOTHER Maria Appolonia Schmitt, Baltimore, MD BIRTH DATE11/7(?)/1905 BAPTISM DATE 12/02/1906 SPONSORS (GODPARENTS) Bernard Fischer PRIEST/ MINISTER Philip Rossbach > > # / Page / Notes > CssR reel M 1540, pg. 297, # 288; married Stella Kostkowski 4/25/1928 St. Joseph's, Odenton, MD, Mission(?) of St. Mary's, Annapolis > > More About Bernard Joseph Fischer: > Baptism: December 02, 1906, St. Michael the Archangel Catholic Church, Baltimore Maryland > > Notes for Stella Kostkowski: > > Children of Bernard Fischer and Stella Kostkowski are: > 9 i. Joseph E3 Fischer. > 10 ii. Mary Fischer. > 11 iii. Dorothy Fischer. > 12 iv. Delores Fischer. > 13 v. Stella Fischer. > 14 vi. Loretta Fischer. > 15 vii. Frederick C Fischer. > > > 4. Appolonia Mary2 Fischer (Joseph S1) was born March 11, 1903 in Baltimore, Maryland, and died November 29, 1978 in Grinnell, Kansas. She married John Madison Townsend 1923, son of Daniel Townsend and Mildred Calhoon. He was born March 30, 1889 in Phillipsburg, Kansas, and died July 15, 1977 in Grinnell, Kansas. > > More About Appolonia Mary Fischer: > Burial: December 02, 1978, Immaculate Conception Cemetery, Grinnell, Kansas > > Children of Appolonia Fischer and John Townsend are: > 16 i. Robert Joseph3 Townsend > 17 ii. Charles Roscoe Townsend > 18 iii. William George Townsend > 19 iv. Marie Alma Townsend > > > > > ==== FISCHER Mailing List ==== > ----------------- > This is the FISCHER Discussion List > You can check the Rootsweb Archives at: > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=FISCHER > or http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/FISCHER > for past messages posted to this list > ----------------- > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

I noted some Fishers in the Baltimore Federal Census report of 1930 that I looked at earlier this year. The pages that I copied with my husband's Maggitti ancestors includes this Fisher family on East Pratt Street: Name Relation Age Age at first marriage Place of Birth (POB) POB Father POB Mother Occupation Industry Charles Head 61 20 Maryland Maryland Maryland Foreman Foundry Ida Wife 56 20 Maryland Maryland Maryland none Helene Daughter 31 Maryland Maryland Maryland Bookeeper Dept Store [sic] Parrish, Charles Son-in-law 31 21 Maryland Maryland Maryland Electric Engeneer [sic] Marie Daughter-in-law 29 19 Maryland Maryland Maryland none Marie granddaughter 9 Maryland Maryland Maryland Charles grandson 6 Maryland Maryland Maryland The surname of the son-in-law and his family appears to be PARRISH. Information from Population Schedule for Baltimore City, Enumeration District 4-404, Sheet 6A, Block number 253 of City Ward 26. Enumerated by Myrtle O. Overton on 5 April 1930. I think there may have been other Fis(c)hers in this enumeration district, but I didn't copy all the pages. This is in neighborhood known as Highlandtown, which near Patterson Park and walking distance to Our Lady of Pompeii Catholic Church in Baltimore (3600 Claremont St, Baltimore, MD 21224). Many of the residents in this enumeration district had Italy as their place of birth, but some also had Germany and Austria. Nancy Bill Clody wrote: > Remember censuses of this period all of the writing was done by the > enumerator. Unless he specifically said "spell it" he would list > Fisher/Fischer the way he would spell it not necessarily the way the person > being enumerated would have spelled it. > Bill > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <townsendatcheney@aol.com> > To: <FISCHER-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2003 9:12 PM > Subject: [FISCHER] Re: Baltimore Fischer's > > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > > > Surnames: Fischer > > Classification: Query > > > > Message Board URL: > > > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YaW.2ACIB/437.1.1.2.1.2 > > > > Message Board Post: > > > > I just located your message on rootweb. My great-grandfather was Joseph S > Fischer. He lived most of his life in the Baltimore/Annapolis area. Listed > at the end of this message is the information that I have on him. I also > found the census record (1880) that you reference - however the name was > spelled Fisher (and yes it lists Veromona). Even though the name is spelled > Fisher rather than Fischer, I think the census record references my > great-grandfather because: > > - Joseph's birth year and middle initial are accurate. > > - his mother's name is Susan. > > - the baptism record for his son references the godfather for the child as > Bernard (I thought this was perhaps a brother that was not identified in > Joseph's obituary). > > - Teresa Newell, of Millersville and Miss Selicia Fischer of Baltimore > were listed as two of Joseph's sisters (in his obituary). The 1880 census > record shows a Theresia and a Cecilia as Joseph's sister (a fairly close > match given that these are census records). > > > > > > Kind regards, > > Steve Townsend > > Cheney Kansas > > great-grandson of Joseph S Fischer > > > > ...................Descendants of Joseph S Fischer > > Generation No. 1 > > > > 1. Joseph S1 Fischer was born February 1878, and died November 20, 1948 > in John Hopkins Hospital in Baltimore, Maryland. He married Mary Appolonia > Schmidt, daughter of John Schmidt and Dorothy Toepner (sp). She was born > August 26, 1873 in Baltimore, Maryland, and died January 04, 1950. > > > > Parents were believed to be from Bavaria (no one is sure however). > > > > Mary A. Fischer died Jan. 4, l950 Age of 76 years 4 mo. ll days; Joseph > S. Fischer died Nov 20, l948 age 70 yrs. 9 mo. They lived in Baltimore > until l9l3 as I have a picture of the family in the grocery store then > owned. > > > > Joseph Fischers sister's as listed in his obituary were Teresa Newell, of > Millersville, Miss Selicia Fischer, Mrs. Mary Ford, Mrs. Barbara Slocum and > Mrs. Margaret Homer of Baltimore. > > > > More About Joseph S Fischer: > > Burial: "Our Lady of the Fields Catholic Church" cemetary, Millersville, > Maryland > > > More About Mary Appolonia Schmidt: > > Burial: "Our Lady of the Fields Catholic Church" cemetery, Millersville, > Maryland > > > >