There is a new virus hoax going around the mail list. It tells you to delete a file named SULFBNK.EXE There is no need to delete this file. Information about this hoax can be found at: http://vil.mcafee.com/dispVirus.asp?virus_k=99084 Gene

Searching for others researching the DEVENISH or DEVINISH Family and their relations: John DEVINISH b. 1720 in Ireland m. 1st ???; m. 2nd ? BARRETT, died 1807 in Baltimore, MD, Had a plantation on Chesapeake Bay, was an officer in the French, Indian, and Rev. Wars John had four siblings (James, Robert, Stephen, and George) who also came to the U.S., James may have returned to Ireland after the Rev. War; and George was killed in the Rev. War John & his first wife had one son John DEVINISH Jr. who died in 1808 John & his second wife had three children; James, Hannah, and Solomon Hannah adopted by a Baltimore banker when her parents died, married twice ? LOWE and ? KIELER and died in Indianapolis, Indiana in 1876 Solomon b. 25 May 1801 in Cambridge, Maryland; married Elizabeth FERGUSON; owned a plantation in Maryland, was a merchant tailor, and died in Indianapolis, Indiana 14 June 1870 they had six children; Solomon, John Jay, Colin F., Samuel, Isabelle, and Margaret; the two oldest b. in Chesapeake Bay, Maryland and the others b. in Madison, Indiana; related surnames include MICHLENBURG; DAME; JOHNSON; PROTSMAN; BRIGGS; BOCK; SCHWARTZ; REDDINGTON; KNORR; Members of this family were also living in: Wayne, Indiana; Columbus, Ohio; James DEVINISH b. 12 February 1792 in Maryland; married 20 July 1820 in Floyd County, Indiana to Mary GUEST b. 1799 in England family immigrated to New Albany, Indiana, James died in 1868 in Floyd County, Indiana, the couple had 11 Children including: Solomon b. 30 August 1822; died in an accident at age 11 Hannah b. 18 December 1823; married ? KELEHER, lived in Fortuna, California and died 1910 in Eureka, CA Martha b. 18 October 1826; married Jeremiah L. GARD, had 4 children (Charles Hill, Henry L., Joseph L., and Edward Stephen)d. 3 Jan 1911 in Denver, Colorado, related surnames include FINK; Members of this family were also living in Columbus, Ohio; James b. 27 April 1828 and died in New Albany, IN, married Hester Anne PENNINGTON and had 4 children (Edward, Sally, Waldo, and Harvey)d. 20 May 1910, related surnames include MAUK; WOODS; Members of this family were also living in Little Rock, Arkansas; and St. Louis, Missouri Stephen b. 8 August 1830 New Albany, IN; died 4 Nov 1909 in Alberta, Canada Penina b. 15 July 1832; married ? WOODS; died 18 Nov 1919 in Sprague, Colorado Solomon b. 30 May 1834; died 1866 at New Albany, Indiana Richard b. 6 March 1836; m. Emma SENSENEY; d. 11 Nov 1929 at Fredericksburg, IN, the couple had 4 children (Oscar G., Cora Z., Homer Senseney, and Carl E.), related surnames include RIDDLE; BLACK; Members of this family were also living in Bakersfield, CA; Taft, CA; George b. 30 August 1837, m. 19 Feb 1863 to Sally Ann HAND, d. 19 May 1922 in New Albany, IN, the couple had 4 children (Leanna, Delia, Myrtle, & Carrie); related surnames include SCHELL; WERNCKE; RUSK; Members of this family were also living in Allen, Oklahoma; Georgetown, Indiana; Isabelle b. 1 September 1839, married Levi RAGER in Eureka, California and had 3 children (Lizzie, Alice Carey, & a boy); John DEVENISH b. 5 May 1821, m. 13 April 1858 Martha E. SHOULTS in CA, died 25 Dec 1899 in Fortuna, CA, and the couple had 6 children (Mary Ellen or Mary Elisabeth, Christopher, Hannah Peniah, Martha Elizabeth, Nancy Catherine, & Eliza Jane); related surnames include THORPE; MOORE; BROWN; ROBINSON; ROWLEY; Members of this family were also living in Red Bluff, CA; Eureka, CA; Edwall, WA; Fredericksburg, IN; Table Bluff, CA; Salmon Creek, CA; I'm hoping to fill in as many blanks as possible so I appreciate any assistance or direction you can provide. Thanks, Shelley

Here is the exact url for the pictures mentioned below <http://www.ancientfaces.com/cgi-bin/photos.cfm?surname=Fink&photos=yes>htt p://www.ancientfaces.com/cgi-bin/photos.cfm?surname=Fink&photos=yes Gene Phillips ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------- Hi!  Just wanted to let you know that several Fink family photos have been uploaded onto <http://www.ancientfaces.com/>www.ancientfaces.com      Thought you could review them, and let your list know, if you think they would be interested. If the owner of the photos has already notified your list, please just 'delete me', and happy hunting! Pam Marks San Jose, CA

This is too good not to share! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carla" <leighton@pacifier.com> To: <ORUMATIL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 30, 2001 12:18 AM Subject: Re: " Where is yours going.!!! " I do not know if this will be allowed on a mailing list or not, but here goes. I just received this and does it ever hit the nail on the Head.. We have had several friends and relatives that this has happened to in the past ten years. What a pity. One must prepare for that day. {{It must be in Writing,}} If it is not, then the family(executor) can do what ever they want to do with it and you can do nothing to stop them. Please put it into writing as what you want done with all those little pieces of papers, the files, information on your computer and boxes of what other people call junk, etc...etc... Remember you MUST have it in writing. C & D in Oregon __ " A GENEALOGIST'S NIGHTMARE " Dear Cousin ////, In response to your letter, I am sorry to inform you that grandpa " Fred" died some time back and the stuff you asked about is not available. The personal property the family did not want was old at an estate sale. All those boxes of junk did not interest a single buyer. We were able to salvage several binders for the kids homework after we sent all the paper to the incinerator. The kids really complained bout having to lug all that paper and pictures of those ugly old folks to the dumpster. An old family Bible from the 1840's did bring $5.00. The one from the 1870's did not sell. There also was a bunch of floppy disks that we were able to reformat and download some games for the kids to play on their new playstation. At least SOMEBODY got some good from the three generations work. I saw the fellow at a flea market a couple of weeks ago and he said he threw the Bible in the trash after nobody was interested in it. He said he got an offer for fifty cents for it, but would rather burn it than give it away. He seemed to be having a lot of success with some very nice Elvis paintings at his booth. The two aunts you asked about are also dead. They were such a delight and could talk all day long about the things papa had written about. I remember them saying something about some records that were copied from two courthouses that later burned. Neither ever wrote down a single thing. The letter you referred to was one he typed up and sent to lots of folks who wrote him. He laughed about them never getting any of his hard work as well as his Fathers and Grandfather who was in the Civil War. He guarded all the information carefully to the bitter end. I wish I could remember some of the things to help you, but I was bored to tears listening to them talk about the family members who were in the civil war and those silly pieces of paper he showed so proudly. I vaguely remember they had some beeswax seals and something to do with the land grants that were destroyed in the courthouse fires. I wish I could remember the story about his grandfathers evening with Jefferson Davis when he was on the run. There are also some very juicy stories that were handed down, but I don't remember them very well. Another thing I remember after he got sick was some fellow calling him and he agreed to let him come down and copy all his material. He told him he would call him back when he felt better. Papa mentioned something about letting the society the man was from have all his work SINCE NOBODY IN THE FAMILY CARED anything about a bunch of people who had been dead for 200 years. -- Papa died the next week. -- I am so sorry papa and the two generations WASTED so much of their life on such WORTHLESS HOBBIES and hope your family will follow something more interesting. We enjoy Bingo and bowling very much here in Pleasantville. I really enjoyed hearing from a long lost cousin and would like to hear back if you find anything important. The kids need the computer for their games and I need to go watch the "Millionaire" show. Your Cousin, //// Where is all your Research Files going? Where is all those Tombstone and Old Pictures going? What will happen to all the $$'s you spent on researching for those ARTICLES that you only have HALF finished? People that " DO NOT SHARE " deserve to have all their work destroyed when they pass on. I have had many that did not even return a reply to my queries or just plainly state " I DO NOT SHARE, " or "It has just cost me to much to get what I have." Why Not Preserve Some of Your Family History. "" SHARE IT WITH SOMEONE TODAY!!! "" It is a shame that one cannot understand that "SHARING IS CARING" ___ --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.250 / Virus Database: 123 - Release Date: 4/18/2001

Posted on: Fink Queries Reply Here: http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/gc/FamilyAssoc/Fink/10059 Surname: FINK ------------------------- Any info. on DAVID LEE FINK from LOUISIANA would be greatly appreciated. DAVID LEE FINK born 1849 BRESLAU,PRUSSIA died 1919 ORLEANS or JEFFERSON PARISH,LA.

I am trying to find any information on my Great-Great-Great grandfather DAVID LEE FINK. He was born in 1849 in BRESLAU,PRUSSIA and died in 1919 in either ORLEANS PARISH or JEFFERSON PARISH. >From what I was told he owned an antique/jewelry store on CARONDULET ST. in NEW ORLEANS. Any info. would be greatly appreciated. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/

Gene, What are the dates on your Rudolph and Albert's? Do you have the descendants for all of them? Ohio has come up a lot in my research, but I'm not sure yet why. You can e-mail me privately at muesic@msn.com. Hope to hear from you soon! This line sounds fun to research! Michelle ----- Original Message ----- From: Gene Philips Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2001 8:10 PM To: FINK-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [FINK] FINK/HOFFMAN At 04:33 PM 03/06/2001 -0600, you wrote: >Thanks Gene! Hopefully I'll be getting back with you very soon! >Michelle Hope so. I'm researching the Fink family for my stepchildren. They have quite a notable history. The first Albert Fink's grandson was born in Nome Alaska. He became a lawyer and formulated the rules for dog sled racing. He later moved to San Francisco. While there he was Al Capone's lawyer in his tax evasion trial. He lost that one. His son, Rudolph Fink was in the army air force in WWII. He was also an engineer. He holds 17 patents obtained while he was on active duty. One of them was for the automatic shutoff valve used in gas pumps today. Since he was in the military, he got no monetary gain from them. He retired and became a chicken farmer in Biloxi MS. He father-in-law was Horace Hickam, the man that Hickam AFB in Hawaii is named after. Rudolph's son Albert is my step kids father. He didn't do to much. He hasn't held a full time job since about 1978. He divorced their mother a year before his mother died and he got a $300,000 inheritance which he promptly blew. I married their mother 2 years ago. The kids are wonderful smart kids. Glory is 20, runs her own business. Albert is 19 and a computer student, Laili is 14 and a published poet. They got some good genes from their ancestors. I'm researching Albert the Lawyer's wife's family now. She is sort of a mystery. Laura Meigs and her 4 sisters were brought to Alaska during the Alaskan Gold by their mother. They all supposedly married well. At least Laura did. I got sidetracked on the family of Return Jonathan Meigs. He was one of the first settlers in Ohio. His son was US Senator and Governor of Ohio. He also served as Postmaster General. A grandson was an engineer that built army forts. Another was one was one of the first doctors to specialize in medicine for women and pediatrics. His son followed him into the medical field. I just can't prove that the Laura Meigs I'm looking for came from that family. I found 8 biographies of Meigs and 4 for Finks. In all of those bios, there is only one mention of a wife and that was only a note. Gene ============================== Ancestry.com Genealogical Databases http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist2.asp Search over 2500 databases with one easy query!<br clear=all><hr>Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at <a href="http://explorer.msn.com">http://explorer.msn.com</a><br></p>

At 04:33 PM 03/06/2001 -0600, you wrote: >Thanks Gene! Hopefully I'll be getting back with you very soon! >Michelle Hope so. I'm researching the Fink family for my stepchildren. They have quite a notable history. The first Albert Fink's grandson was born in Nome Alaska. He became a lawyer and formulated the rules for dog sled racing. He later moved to San Francisco. While there he was Al Capone's lawyer in his tax evasion trial. He lost that one. His son, Rudolph Fink was in the army air force in WWII. He was also an engineer. He holds 17 patents obtained while he was on active duty. One of them was for the automatic shutoff valve used in gas pumps today. Since he was in the military, he got no monetary gain from them. He retired and became a chicken farmer in Biloxi MS. He father-in-law was Horace Hickam, the man that Hickam AFB in Hawaii is named after. Rudolph's son Albert is my step kids father. He didn't do to much. He hasn't held a full time job since about 1978. He divorced their mother a year before his mother died and he got a $300,000 inheritance which he promptly blew. I married their mother 2 years ago. The kids are wonderful smart kids. Glory is 20, runs her own business. Albert is 19 and a computer student, Laili is 14 and a published poet. They got some good genes from their ancestors. I'm researching Albert the Lawyer's wife's family now. She is sort of a mystery. Laura Meigs and her 4 sisters were brought to Alaska during the Alaskan Gold by their mother. They all supposedly married well. At least Laura did. I got sidetracked on the family of Return Jonathan Meigs. He was one of the first settlers in Ohio. His son was US Senator and Governor of Ohio. He also served as Postmaster General. A grandson was an engineer that built army forts. Another was one was one of the first doctors to specialize in medicine for women and pediatrics. His son followed him into the medical field. I just can't prove that the Laura Meigs I'm looking for came from that family. I found 8 biographies of Meigs and 4 for Finks. In all of those bios, there is only one mention of a wife and that was only a note. Gene

Thanks Gene! Hopefully I'll be getting back with you very soon! Michelle ----- Original Message ----- From: Gene Philips Sent: Monday, March 05, 2001 4:06 PM To: FINK-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [FINK] FINK/HOFFMAN At 08:58 AM 03/05/2001 -0600, you wrote: >Gene, >I have no parents for Rudolph. I know nothing else about his family. I just know that they lived in St. Louis for a LONG time (him and Flora). I really don't think that they had been in this country that long before his birth. I'm going to check out immigration records, but thought that I would put this out to the list first. >Michelle If you find a birth place of Lauterbach, Grand Duchy of Hesse-Darmstadt, Germany for Rudolph's parents, get back to me. The Immigrant Albert Fink and his brother Rudolph were born there. Albert on 27 Oct 1827, don't know about Rudolph. There has been several bios and historical mentions of this Albert Fink. He was a rail road engineer. Not the kind that drives the trains, but the kind that designs things. Like bridges. He designed the railroad bridge across the Ohio River at Louisville KY among other ones. He also designed and supervised the construction of the court house in Louisville Gene Phillips ============================== Add as many as 10 Good Years To Your Life If you know how to reduce these risks. http://www.thirdage.com/health/wecare/hearthealth/index.html<br clear=all><hr>Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at <a href="http://explorer.msn.com">http://explorer.msn.com</a><br></p>

Lori sorry not that I know of.. the Mary fink I was looking for married the fink name.. but who know maybe they will connect I'm still hunting !!! ----- Original Message ----- From: LORISAB1@aol.com Sent: Monday, March 05, 2001 5:32 PM To: FINK-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [FINK] ALBERT FINK Hi , Seen your posting my grandfather Hermann Finks brother's name was Albert Fink. Albert's family came from Switzerland and moved to Brazil. Their other brothers were Alfred and Alexander. Hermann came to America in 1900 and settled in Trenton NJ. They had a sister Mary Fink who went to live in NYC. Any relation? Thanks, Lori Fink of PA ============================== Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com<br clear=all><hr>Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at <a href="http://explorer.msn.com">http://explorer.msn.com</a><br></p>

Hi , Seen your posting my grandfather Hermann Finks brother's name was Albert Fink. Albert's family came from Switzerland and moved to Brazil. Their other brothers were Alfred and Alexander. Hermann came to America in 1900 and settled in Trenton NJ. They had a sister Mary Fink who went to live in NYC. Any relation? Thanks, Lori Fink of PA

At 08:58 AM 03/05/2001 -0600, you wrote: >Gene, >I have no parents for Rudolph. I know nothing else about his family. I just know that they lived in St. Louis for a LONG time (him and Flora). I really don't think that they had been in this country that long before his birth. I'm going to check out immigration records, but thought that I would put this out to the list first. >Michelle If you find a birth place of Lauterbach, Grand Duchy of Hesse-Darmstadt, Germany for Rudolph's parents, get back to me. The Immigrant Albert Fink and his brother Rudolph were born there. Albert on 27 Oct 1827, don't know about Rudolph. There has been several bios and historical mentions of this Albert Fink. He was a rail road engineer. Not the kind that drives the trains, but the kind that designs things. Like bridges. He designed the railroad bridge across the Ohio River at Louisville KY among other ones. He also designed and supervised the construction of the court house in Louisville Gene Phillips

Greetings Michelle, I don't see any direct matches but with Fink being such an uncommon name, and given the location NY/NJ I suspect there is a link a little further back. This is all I have. Charles Fink is my GGrandfather. I have cut & pasted this from Family Tree Maker. Let me know if it is too jumbled to decipher. I will type it out. Do you recognize any of this? - Pete Descendants of Charles Fink 1 Charles Fink b: May 17, 1861 in Kearney, NJ (Hudson County) ..+Angelin "Annie" Stires b: September 02, 1862 in High Bridge, NJ (Hunterdon, County) .2 Emory Fink b: July 08, 1883 in NJ d: August 1972 in NJ .....+Agnes Unknown b: February 22, 1897 in NJ d: December 22, 1979 in NJ .....3 Phyllis Fink .........+Phillip Vogel .....3 Ruth Fink .........+Lou Rossell d: in NJ .2 Ethel Annie Fink b: March 28, 1895 in Newark, NJ d: November 01, 1968 in Riverhead, NY .....+Peter Courage b: December 11, 1894 in Monroe, NY d: May 26, 1973 in Asbury Park, NJ .....3 Arthur Courage b: August 25, 1922 in NJ .........+Jean Frederick b: September 13, 1923 in NJ .....3 Ruth Courage b: January 23, 1929 in Elizabeth, NJ .........+Robert Edward Vaughan b: May 08, 1928 in Mount Vernon, Westchester, NY *2nd Wife of Charles Fink: ..+Matilda Scharf b: July 26, 1882 in Newark, NJ .2 Herbert Fink b: August 19, 1904 in NJ d: July 02, 1988 .....+Ella Beatrice Gashlin b: March 04, 1904 in Newark, NJ d: October 15, 1985 .....3 Herbert C. Fink b: October 15, 1925 .........+Rada .....3 Robert Fink b: August 26, 1931 .........+Dolores Michelle Robinson wrote: > > I am new to this list, so thought I would post my info in hopes that someone by have this line (all the way back to the, oh, say 1500's would be nice! 8) ). > > Rudolph FINK: born 1896 in NY, died ?1961 in St. Louis, MO. Married Flora HOFFMAN. Rudolph had at least one brother that I know of, but no name yet. > > Rudolph and Flora had two children: Eleanor and Loraine. > > Thanks for any help! > Michelle<br clear=all><hr>Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at <a href="http://explorer.msn.com">http://explorer.msn.com</a><br></p> > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry's Library - The best collection of family history > learning and how-to articles on the Internet. > http://www.ancestry.com/learn/library

Gene, I have no parents for Rudolph. I know nothing else about his family. I just know that they lived in St. Louis for a LONG time (him and Flora). I really don't think that they had been in this country that long before his birth. I'm going to check out immigration records, but thought that I would put this out to the list first. Michelle <<How about Albert. Fink is my stepchildren's family. Since the immigrant Finks came over about 1849 they have named all of their male children Albert or Rudolph and no middle name. Do you have parents for Rudolph? Gene Phillips>> ============================== Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 Source for Family History Online. Go to: http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB<br clear=all><hr>Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at <a href="http://explorer.msn.com">http://explorer.msn.com</a><br></p>

At 10:33 PM 03/04/2001 -0600, you wrote: >I am new to this list, so thought I would post my info in hopes that someone by have this line (all the way back to the, oh, say 1500's would be nice! 8) ). > >Rudolph FINK: born 1896 in NY, died ?1961 in St. Louis, MO. Married Flora HOFFMAN. Rudolph had at least one brother that I know of, but no name yet. > >Rudolph and Flora had two children: Eleanor and Loraine. > >Thanks for any help! >Michelle<br clear=all><hr>Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at <a href="http://explorer.msn.com">http://explorer.msn.com How about Albert. Fink is my stepchildren's family. Since the immigrant Finks came over about 1849 they have named all of their male children Albert or Rudolph and no middle name. Do you have parents for Rudolph? Gene Phillips

At 10:33 PM 03/04/2001 -0600, you wrote: >I am new to this list, so thought I would post my info in hopes that someone by have this line (all the way back to the, oh, say 1500's would be nice! 8) ). > >Rudolph FINK: born 1896 in NY, died ?1961 in St. Louis, MO. Married Flora HOFFMAN. Rudolph had at least one brother that I know of, but no name yet. > >Rudolph and Flora had two children: Eleanor and Loraine. > >Thanks for any help! >Michelle<br clear=all><hr>Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at <a href="http://explorer.msn.com">http://explorer.msn.com How about Albert. Fink is my stepchildren's family. Since the immigrant Finks came over about 1849 they have named all of their male children Albert or Rudolph and no middle name. Do you have parents for Rudolph? Gene Phillips

I am new to this list, so thought I would post my info in hopes that someone by have this line (all the way back to the, oh, say 1500's would be nice! 8) ). Rudolph FINK: born 1896 in NY, died ?1961 in St. Louis, MO. Married Flora HOFFMAN. Rudolph had at least one brother that I know of, but no name yet. Rudolph and Flora had two children: Eleanor and Loraine. Thanks for any help! Michelle<br clear=all><hr>Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at <a href="http://explorer.msn.com">http://explorer.msn.com</a><br></p>

Posted on: Fink Queries Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Fink/10058 Surname: FINKE ------------------------- I WAS BORN IN ILLINOIS WASHINGTON COUNTY AND MOVED TO SCOTLAND IN 1976

Posted on: Fink Queries Reply Here: http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/gc/FamilyAssoc/Fink/61 Surname: Fink ------------------------- I'm looking for a Fred fink Married to a Mary collins one sons name Thomas Fink born in struthers , Ohio in 1913 any help wold be greatly welcome!!!

Hi , I have a Jacob and Johannes Fink in my family which originates in Gossliwil Switzerland. Let me know if you trace your Finks to Switzerland.Thanks, Lori Fink of USA